Re: Welcome Back! (was: Re: bead blasting)
steve and list. thanks to list member jim curry and my lovely wife, between the two of them, they carried and assembled my computer to the floor of our home that i am confined to, for the duration. i tire easily, and with one hand have a hard time with upper case letters. but at least i am no longer cut off from the rest of the world. the humerus was completely seperated from the shaft of my upper arm bone, and it hurts like the devil! so having something to take my mind off of things is a tremendous help. thanks again, jim, your help is appreciated more than i can say. keith - Original Message - From: steve boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Welcome Back! (was: Re: bead blasting) Keith, You're typing!! Congratulations! Knew they couldn't keep you away from the keyboard for long... - - Steve
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thanks, it's only a few minutes a day that the dr. allows me, but reading live steam stuff is good medicine! keith - Original Message - From: Trent Dowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: Re: bead blasting Keith! Good to have you back! Later, Trent Keith Taylor wrote:
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glad to have you back Keith, even if it is for a brief period each day. You are right, some time is better than no time. Mike --- Keith Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, it's only a few minutes a day that the dr. allows me, but reading live steam stuff is good medicine! keith - Original Message - From: Trent Dowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: Re: bead blasting Keith! Good to have you back! Later, Trent Keith Taylor wrote: __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
Re: Welcome Back! (was: Re: bead blasting)
Keith, Delighted you are with us again, upper case or not!! And may your recovery be quicker than anyone expects. Thanks Jim (and Keith's lovely wife) for helping Keith to be back communicating with us'ns Geoff steve and list. thanks to list member jim curry and my lovely wife, between the two of them, they carried and assembled my computer to the floor of our home that i am confined to, for the duration. i tire easily, and with one hand have a hard time with upper case letters. but at least i am no longer cut off from the rest of the world. the humerus was completely seperated from the shaft of my upper arm bone, and it hurts like the devil! so having something to take my mind off of things is a tremendous help. thanks again, jim, your help is appreciated more than i can say. keith - Original Message - From: steve boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Welcome Back! (was: Re: bead blasting) Keith, You're typing!! Congratulations! Knew they couldn't keep you away from the keyboard for long... - - Steve
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Trent, Any idea what the freezing point is for the vinegar? Might take considerably more time in the far frozen North! Keep your steam up! Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate
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Cut it out, Walt! We installed a heater last year! Jim
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I am on a mailing list for Harbor Freight. They send me sale notices for items which they are selling below their everyday low prices. On their current flyer, they have the bead blaster cabinet that I have on sale for $70. It's a metal cabinet. For that price, you couldn't even get all the parts to make it from scratch (including the time to find them). Although I don't have alot of experience with it, as long as you have a decent compressor, it seems to work fine. Go to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/category.taf?f=displaysubcatspricetype=S and look under blasters. royce in SB VR Bass wrote: I thought if you were inquiring about possibly building one that would be simple enough to do but surprisingly a very quick search on Google didn't turn up anything on building a small inexpensive one. There was just such an article in Model Railroader, showing how to build both a cabinet and the sandblasting nozzle. You can tell this was a while ago, since it involved some simple machining. The original magazine can be obtained directly from Kalmbach or you can get a photodopy from the NMRA library (they charge per page). Build your own sandblast system, Model Railroader, September 1977 page 68 http://db.kalmbach.com/catalog/catalogjump.lasso?Menu=backissues http://www.nmra.org/library -vance- Keep in mind that, before plastics, only rich people could afford to have poor taste. -- Don Featherstone, creator of the plastic lawn flamingo
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That is a really great buy, Royce. Thanks for the information. It gives the pressure but not the CFM required for the #10 nozzle which is furnished and the table that I have for CFM don't go that small. That is a very important factor to consider if any amount of sandblasting is done or it will be slow progress as one waits while the pressure builds up. Any cheap 5hp single phase out there--No?? Then cheap 3 phase?? Geoff I am on a mailing list for Harbor Freight. They send me sale notices for items which they are selling below their everyday low prices. On their current flyer, they have the bead blaster cabinet that I have on sale for $70. It's a metal cabinet. For that price, you couldn't even get all the parts to make it from scratch (including the time to find them). Although I don't have alot of experience with it, as long as you have a decent compressor, it seems to work fine. Go to The info and look under blasters. royce in SB
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Thanks to everyone for all the input. One thing I hadn't considered was tumbling in a (fine sand?) that Keith has. Gratis is cheaper than wholesale. Thanks again. Jim
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At 02:05 PM 1/2/02 -0500, you wrote: Thanks to everyone for all the input. One thing I hadn't considered was tumbling in a (fine sand?) that Keith has. Gratis is cheaper than wholesale. Jim, Very cheap to rig up a tumbler. I hear walnut shells are great as a tumbling medium. Regards, Harry
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jim, we will be using crushed walnut shells. gets rid of rust, doesn't hurt parent metal. i do have tougher abrasives, but the walnut shells will work just fine! keith - Original Message - From: Jim Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: bead blasting Thanks to everyone for all the input. One thing I hadn't considered was tumbling in a (fine sand?) that Keith has. Gratis is cheaper than wholesale. Thanks again. Jim
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Jim, Take advantage of the environment: Gather walnuts locally (they will probably be Black Walnuts, better than the thin, pale English ones) Pulverize shells with sledgehammer, etc. Put shell material and wheels in a suitable container, seal the top. Remove all outer clothing except for long johns. Stand outside holding the container with the wheels and walnut shells. After a suitable time, depending on the temperature and how reactive you are to the chills you will have clean wheels -- a Yankee version of the Vibratory Abrasive Finisher. Keep your steam up! Mr. Lunkenheimer
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Hello Everyone, Sounds like the preferred choice (gratis) has been found, but... At my local Wal-Mart and other tool stores you can buy a sandblast kit for around $15 or so. No cabinet, just the siphon hose, fittings, and the blast nozzle. It's rather large for the use that spawned this discussion, but it may be useful information to someone in the future. It's marketed under the Buffalo brand. Cheap stuff, but if you only use it twice a year or so, it should get the job done. IMO Royce, thanks for passing along the Harbor Freight ad. Later, Trent
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At 06:15 PM 12/31/01 -0500, you wrote: I've got 2 drivers w/rust, I need them cleaned before painting. Jim, I thought if you were inquiring about possibly building one that would be simple enough to do but surprisingly a very quick search on Google didn't turn up anything on building a small inexpensive one. A similar search a couple of months ago for a quick, cheap EDM machine turned up just the thing. Regards, Harry
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jim, bring them over to my house, we'll tumble them. keith - Original Message - From: Jim Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: Re: bead blasting Harry, I've got 2 drivers w/rust, I need them cleaned before painting. Jim
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At 05:45 PM 1/1/02 -, you wrote: I have had good service with respect to forking out back issues from - Stephans RR History - Talbott TN Art, I wasn't aware such a place existed. Amazing what one finds in one's own back yard. Regards, Harry
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Another solution that my Dad uses on a regular basis for de-rusting old tools is to submerge the parts in white vinegar. He uses an old cast iron kettle and has a piece of electrical conduit laying across the top with coat hangers used as hooks to suspend the parts and ease their retrieval. I've used a paint can for small parts. Works surprisingly well, but it will take a day or so for surface rust. A week or two on a badly rusted part. Might I suggest that you find a place outside that you can cover the container and avoid stinking up your shop. The vinegar bubbles so I'm guessing that you wouldn't want to seal it up tight. Hope it helps. Later, Trent Paul Anderson wrote: I've got 2 drivers w/rust, I need them cleaned before painting.
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Harry, I've got 2 drivers w/rust, I need them cleaned before painting. Jim