Re: Urgent: Form Bean with 150s attributes, severe problem

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Subject: Re: Urgent: Form Bean with 150s attributes, severe problem
From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Landung Wahana wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I use Struts to implement my web application. It works fine so far until I
> realised one problem that really affect my project in term of performance.
> The problem is a JSP page that takes 1-2 minutes to display form bean that I
> attach to it.
> 
> I define a  in a JSP, and I set about 150 text fields inside
> the form with  tag.
> It doesnt show error, but it take too much time to display the data from the
> form bean.
> Anybody has explanation to this problem, or some suggestion?
> Thanks.
> 
> L. Wahana.
> 
> 



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Urgent: Form Bean with 150s attributes, severe problem

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Subject: Urgent: Form Bean with 150s attributes, severe problem
From: "Landung Wahana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi folks,
I use Struts to implement my web application. It works fine so far until I
realised one problem that really affect my project in term of performance.
The problem is a JSP page that takes 1-2 minutes to display form bean that I
attach to it.

I define a  in a JSP, and I set about 150 text fields inside
the form with  tag.
It doesnt show error, but it take too much time to display the data from the
form bean.
Anybody has explanation to this problem, or some suggestion?
Thanks.

L. Wahana.



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RE: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now available

[Joseph Barefoot]

Makes complete sense, pardon my faux pas.  I had forgotten the time-frame
when it was being written (in the long-long ago, the before time :) ).  I
remember now that when I picked up the book, I was working off of the
development builds with JBoss to get the full EJB 2.0 support.

peace,

Joe Barefoot

> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Cavaness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:25 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now
> available
>
>
> Joe,
>
>Thanks for the comments. The reason that we went with WL was
> at the time
> we started writing it (long before the EJB 2.0 spec became
> public), it was
> the most complete 2.0 EJB container. We looked at some of the others,
> JBoss, Orion, and a few others, but they didn't implement the complete
> spec. That had alot of the functionality, but not all of it. That's the
> only reason.
>
> As we got towards the end of the book, others started getting certified,
> but there were still very few that implemented it completly. Probably
> another reason is because that's what we had been using for quite
> awhile at
> the .com I was working at the time. We had built an Auction application
> with it and then a huge B2B e-commerce application.
>
> Chuck
>
> At 04:51 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Cool.  Chuck, I must say I enjoyed "Special Edition Using Enterprise
> >JavaBeans 2.0".  Very good presentation of some tricky subject
> matter.  No
> >EJB flame-wars please, just giving credit where it's due. :)
> >
> >b.t.w., why not point readers to JBoss instead of Weblogic
> (distributed w/
> >the book)?  IMO, EJB newbies would benefit more from JBoss's
> simplicity and
> >strict adherence to standards than Weblogic's overwhelming configuration
> >details and "fluff".
> >
> >joe
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:06 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now
> > > available
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to let everyone know that Chapters 5 and 6 have been
> > > posted on theserverside. You can download them from
> > > http://www.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp.
> > >
> > > As I mentioned previously, I really do appreciate all of the kind
> > > words and feedback from the previous chapters. To be honest, the
> > > number of correspondences overwhelmed me initially. I'm still
> > > trying to reply to each email that I've received, so if you
> > > haven't received a response, you will eventually.
> > >
> > > I appreciate the time that everyone has taken and I hope that the
> > > material has given value to those that have had a chance to read it.
> > >
> > > Enjoy,
> > > Chuck
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[OT] For Discussion On The Model Topic In Chapter 6 Of Chuck's Struts Book

[Rick Reumann]

Last time some posts began concerning the Model layer, it was advised
that the topic really shouldn't be discussed in the Struts forum since
it's not really a struts specific issue. I really found chapter 6 of
Chuck's book very helpful in helping me understand the model layer
better. I still have some questions about the model layer that I'd
like to talk about with other
people that build struts applications. If anyone would like to discuss
the model layer more or this chapter in particular, I set up a group in
yahoo at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/model_struts
As I mentioned once before a lot of the J2EE books and tutorials out
there go overboard and assume so many things in relation to the model
layer and yet the average JSP books barely touch upon the model layer
(rightfully so I suppose). I'm sure others have questions and comments
about not using EJBs and dealing with business objects. Hope some
would join for a discussion.

See ya

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RE: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now available

[Chuck Cavaness]

Joe,

   Thanks for the comments. The reason that we went with WL was at the time 
we started writing it (long before the EJB 2.0 spec became public), it was 
the most complete 2.0 EJB container. We looked at some of the others, 
JBoss, Orion, and a few others, but they didn't implement the complete 
spec. That had alot of the functionality, but not all of it. That's the 
only reason.

As we got towards the end of the book, others started getting certified, 
but there were still very few that implemented it completly. Probably 
another reason is because that's what we had been using for quite awhile at 
the .com I was working at the time. We had built an Auction application 
with it and then a huge B2B e-commerce application.

Chuck

At 04:51 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Cool.  Chuck, I must say I enjoyed "Special Edition Using Enterprise
>JavaBeans 2.0".  Very good presentation of some tricky subject matter.  No
>EJB flame-wars please, just giving credit where it's due. :)
>
>b.t.w., why not point readers to JBoss instead of Weblogic (distributed w/
>the book)?  IMO, EJB newbies would benefit more from JBoss's simplicity and
>strict adherence to standards than Weblogic's overwhelming configuration
>details and "fluff".
>
>joe
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:06 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now
> > available
> >
> >
> > I wanted to let everyone know that Chapters 5 and 6 have been
> > posted on theserverside. You can download them from
> > http://www.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp.
> >
> > As I mentioned previously, I really do appreciate all of the kind
> > words and feedback from the previous chapters. To be honest, the
> > number of correspondences overwhelmed me initially. I'm still
> > trying to reply to each email that I've received, so if you
> > haven't received a response, you will eventually.
> >
> > I appreciate the time that everyone has taken and I hope that the
> > material has given value to those that have had a chance to read it.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > Chuck
> >
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RE: approache to populate combo-box on the fly

[James Mitchell]

Well, are you up for creating (and donating) a custom taglib for the struts
community?

I am picturing a taglib like


..full integration with the Validator..

What do you think?

..or...maybe someone has already done this and I just haven't seen it yet
(hmmm)

JM




> -Original Message-
> From: Emerson Cargnin - MSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:35 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: approache to populate combo-box on the fly
>
>
> Ok , that's was a problem too, our code (javascript) had to be
> especific to
> the browser, although it's look like as ours code. My question
> was about the
> approache to make it using struts framework an taglibs.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:58 PM
> Subject: RE: approache to populate combo-box on the fly
>
>
> > http://javascript.internet.com/forms/auto-drop-down.html
> >
> > Works in IE and NS
> >
> > JM
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Emerson Cargnin - MSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:45 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > Subject: approache to populate combo-box on the fly
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > We are using the following approache to populate a combo-box depending
> on
> > > the value of a changed combo-box :
> > >
> > > We have a iframe on the page, and on the onChange event of some
> combo-box,
> > > it loads an struts LoadSelectAction (generic for all cases like this)
> that
> > > populates other combo depending of some parameters.
> > >
> > > Is it a good practice? have anyone used other way to populate a combo
> > > without sending the entire page to server and flicking  the page?
> > >
> > > Emerson
> > >
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RE: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now available

[James Mitchell]

Yes, I would like to see that as well Chuck.
If we can help in any way, please don't hesitate to ask.

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:51 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now
> available
>
>
> Cool.  Chuck, I must say I enjoyed "Special Edition Using Enterprise
> JavaBeans 2.0".  Very good presentation of some tricky subject matter.  No
> EJB flame-wars please, just giving credit where it's due. :)
>
> b.t.w., why not point readers to JBoss instead of Weblogic (distributed w/
> the book)?  IMO, EJB newbies would benefit more from JBoss's
> simplicity and
> strict adherence to standards than Weblogic's overwhelming configuration
> details and "fluff".
>
> joe
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RE: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now available

[Joseph Barefoot]

Cool.  Chuck, I must say I enjoyed "Special Edition Using Enterprise
JavaBeans 2.0".  Very good presentation of some tricky subject matter.  No
EJB flame-wars please, just giving credit where it's due. :)

b.t.w., why not point readers to JBoss instead of Weblogic (distributed w/
the book)?  IMO, EJB newbies would benefit more from JBoss's simplicity and
strict adherence to standards than Weblogic's overwhelming configuration
details and "fluff".

joe

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now
> available
>
>
> I wanted to let everyone know that Chapters 5 and 6 have been
> posted on theserverside. You can download them from
> http://www.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp.
>
> As I mentioned previously, I really do appreciate all of the kind
> words and feedback from the previous chapters. To be honest, the
> number of correspondences overwhelmed me initially. I’m still
> trying to reply to each email that I’ve received, so if you
> haven’t received a response, you will eventually.
>
> I appreciate the time that everyone has taken and I hope that the
> material has given value to those that have had a chance to read it.
>
> Enjoy,
> Chuck
>
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[ANN] Chapters 5 and 6 of the O'Reilly Struts book are now available

[struts-user]

I wanted to let everyone know that Chapters 5 and 6 have been posted on theserverside. 
You can download them from http://www.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp.

As I mentioned previously, I really do appreciate all of the kind words and feedback 
from the previous chapters. To be honest, the number of correspondences overwhelmed me 
initially. I’m still trying to reply to each email that I’ve received, so if you 
haven’t received a response, you will eventually.

I appreciate the time that everyone has taken and I hope that the material has given 
value to those that have had a chance to read it.

Enjoy,
Chuck

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RE: bean:write returning null

[Galbreath, Mark]

Exactly right on.

-Original Message-
From: Bartley, Chris P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:42 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: bean:write returning null


> Couln't you use the ignore=true flag instead? 

Well, it depends.  I guess i assumed Mark didn't want to just ignore
it...maybe his JSP has something like:

   Bubba says ""

In which case, the rendered HTML would be:

   Bubba says ""

...which would look weird.  So maybe he'd just rather not write the "Bubba
says" message at all in that case, which is why i wrote the example in my
previous post the way i did.  So, he could do:

   
   
  Bubba says ""
   

But, i guess this would be even better:

   
  Bubba says ""
   

Time to go home...yay for Friday.

thanks,

chris

> -Original Message-
> From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:12 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> Couln't you use the ignore=true flag instead?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If bubba were null, nothing would get written.
> 
> You could take this one step further if you were simply 
> checking the bean
> itself and not a property of the bean for null:
> 
> 
> 
> would ignore if the "bubba" bean could not be found in any 
> scope.  If you
> using a property of bubba that could be null...
> 
>  
> 
> would write nothing if bubba was null but wouldn't if 
> bubba.getBubbaProp()
> returned null, then you'd have to use the bean:define version above.
> 
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bartley, Chris P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:56 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> Have you tried doing a  first, and then checking 
> for null with
> ?
> 
> For example, say that you were doing this:
> 
>
> 
> But you want to make sure that it isn't null first...so, try this:
> 
>
>
>   
>
> 
> (i haven't tested this, so my apologies for any syntax errors)
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> chris
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:37 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > I tried logic:isEmpty without success.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Thinh Doan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:44 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > Can you use logic:present ?
> > 
> > Thinh
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:30 PM
> > To: Struts (E-mail)
> > Subject: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
> >  
> > Mark
> > "De recta non tolerandum sunt."
> > 
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Re: include a dynamically created page in my jsp

[Jeffrey Bonevich]

Charles -

What you want to do is not possible with JSP.  I tried for quite some 
time to find every conceivable way around it, but it can't be done.  See 
my original posting:

http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg50547.html

and Craig McClanahan's response:

http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg50578.html

Basically, you cannot get access to the body content of a tag (or in 
your case replace a body-less tag) such as through the BodyContent 
object (subclass of JspWriter), alter its content, and then have it 
(re)process that content.  Look to the future.  Maybe JSP spec 1.3 will 
support this.

jeff

Galpin, Charles wrote:

>>-Original Message-
>>From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:49 PM
>>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>>Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
>>
>>Do you mean displaying your site text from a db table?
>>
>>Sorry, I guess I am not following what you are trying to do.
>>
> 
> Ok picture this - instead of a jsp include, or template call in my jsp page,
> I want to dynamically grab some jsp/html text from a database and
> include/parse/compile it at runtime - just like the container would do when
> parsing the jsp file and creating a servlet which is actually running when
> you access that jsp.
> 
> So it would look something like...
> 
> My.jsp:
> 
> 
> 
> DnamicIncludeTag.java:
> 
> String dynamicJspPage = getDynamicJspPageFromDBOrBean(chunk);
> // parse the string which contains jsp/html into a servlet
> // like the container would do, execute it, and inject
> // the output into the current response output.
> 
> Clearer?
> 
> Actually the real problem I'd like to solve is how to include some jsp that
> is outside our application - in other words allow someone to change a few
> select jsp files without unwarring our app. I think the answer is that you
> don't. :)
> 
> Tia
> charles
> 
> 
>>JM
>>
>>P.S. Please forgive my stupidity, I am a lawyer ;)
>>
> I'll forgive you this one time :)
> 
> 


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RE: bean:write returning null

[Bartley, Chris P]

> Couln't you use the ignore=true flag instead? 

Well, it depends.  I guess i assumed Mark didn't want to just ignore
it...maybe his JSP has something like:

   Bubba says ""

In which case, the rendered HTML would be:

   Bubba says ""

...which would look weird.  So maybe he'd just rather not write the "Bubba
says" message at all in that case, which is why i wrote the example in my
previous post the way i did.  So, he could do:

   
   
  Bubba says ""
   

But, i guess this would be even better:

   
  Bubba says ""
   

Time to go home...yay for Friday.

thanks,

chris

> -Original Message-
> From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:12 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> Couln't you use the ignore=true flag instead?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If bubba were null, nothing would get written.
> 
> You could take this one step further if you were simply 
> checking the bean
> itself and not a property of the bean for null:
> 
> 
> 
> would ignore if the "bubba" bean could not be found in any 
> scope.  If you
> using a property of bubba that could be null...
> 
>  
> 
> would write nothing if bubba was null but wouldn't if 
> bubba.getBubbaProp()
> returned null, then you'd have to use the bean:define version above.
> 
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bartley, Chris P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:56 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> Have you tried doing a  first, and then checking 
> for null with
> ?
> 
> For example, say that you were doing this:
> 
>
> 
> But you want to make sure that it isn't null first...so, try this:
> 
>
>
>   
>
> 
> (i haven't tested this, so my apologies for any syntax errors)
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> chris
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:37 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > I tried logic:isEmpty without success.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Thinh Doan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:44 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > Can you use logic:present ?
> > 
> > Thinh
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:30 PM
> > To: Struts (E-mail)
> > Subject: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
> >  
> > Mark
> > "De recta non tolerandum sunt."
> > 
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Re: approache to populate combo-box on the fly

[Emerson Cargnin - MSA]

Ok , that's was a problem too, our code (javascript) had to be especific to
the browser, although it's look like as ours code. My question was about the
approache to make it using struts framework an taglibs.


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From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: approache to populate combo-box on the fly


> http://javascript.internet.com/forms/auto-drop-down.html
>
> Works in IE and NS
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Emerson Cargnin - MSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:45 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: approache to populate combo-box on the fly
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > We are using the following approache to populate a combo-box depending
on
> > the value of a changed combo-box :
> >
> > We have a iframe on the page, and on the onChange event of some
combo-box,
> > it loads an struts LoadSelectAction (generic for all cases like this)
that
> > populates other combo depending of some parameters.
> >
> > Is it a good practice? have anyone used other way to populate a combo
> > without sending the entire page to server and flicking  the page?
> >
> > Emerson
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RE: bean:write returning null

[Galbreath, Mark]

Chris' suggestion works (thanks!); just for grins I'll try ignore as well.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:12 PM
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Subject: RE: bean:write returning null


Couln't you use the ignore=true flag instead?




If bubba were null, nothing would get written.

You could take this one step further if you were simply checking the bean
itself and not a property of the bean for null:



would ignore if the "bubba" bean could not be found in any scope.  If you
using a property of bubba that could be null...

 

would write nothing if bubba was null but wouldn't if bubba.getBubbaProp()
returned null, then you'd have to use the bean:define version above.

Tim

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From: Bartley, Chris P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:56 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: bean:write returning null


Have you tried doing a  first, and then checking for null with
?

For example, say that you were doing this:

   

But you want to make sure that it isn't null first...so, try this:

   
   
  
   

(i haven't tested this, so my apologies for any syntax errors)

Hope that helps.

chris

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> 
> I tried logic:isEmpty without success.
> 
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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:44 PM
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> 
> 
> Can you use logic:present ?
> 
> Thinh
> 
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> How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
>  
> Mark
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Re: approache to populate combo-box on the fly

[Ryan Norman]

Hi all,

We are also using the same approach to populate the dropdowns and
list/selects.
I don't see anything wrong in that approach.
The only difference is we don't use an iframe. Instead we open a new child
window to populate.

Thanks

Ryan Norman

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To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 02:45 PM
Subject: approache to populate combo-box on the fly


> Hi all
>
> We are using the following approache to populate a combo-box depending on
> the value of a changed combo-box :
>
> We have a iframe on the page, and on the onChange event of some combo-box,
> it loads an struts LoadSelectAction (generic for all cases like this) that
> populates other combo depending of some parameters.
>
> Is it a good practice? have anyone used other way to populate a combo
> without sending the entire page to server and flicking  the page?
>
> Emerson
>
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RE: bean:write returning null

[Pedone, Tim]

Couln't you use the ignore=true flag instead?




If bubba were null, nothing would get written.

You could take this one step further if you were simply checking the bean
itself and not a property of the bean for null:



would ignore if the "bubba" bean could not be found in any scope.  If you
using a property of bubba that could be null...

 

would write nothing if bubba was null but wouldn't if bubba.getBubbaProp()
returned null, then you'd have to use the bean:define version above.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Bartley, Chris P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:56 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: bean:write returning null


Have you tried doing a  first, and then checking for null with
?

For example, say that you were doing this:

   

But you want to make sure that it isn't null first...so, try this:

   
   
  
   

(i haven't tested this, so my apologies for any syntax errors)

Hope that helps.

chris

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> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> I tried logic:isEmpty without success.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Thinh Doan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> Can you use logic:present ?
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> Thinh
> 
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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:30 PM
> To: Struts (E-mail)
> Subject: bean:write returning null
> 
> 
> How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
>  
> Mark
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RE: Auto-resending the information on refreshing

[James Mitchell]

Actually, because the parent window was displayed from a "POST"-ed form
(method="POST"), it is causing you this grief.

If you change the method to "GET" then you won't have this problem.

However, you may get unwanted results:
*The URL in the address bar becomes long (depending on the request)
*Some browsers have a limit to the length of a url string, consequently some
might be truncated

JM

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> Subject: RE: Auto-resending the information on refreshing
>
>
>
> Yes re-post it.
>
> The parent window opens a child window. Once you click OK on the
> child window it should refresh the parent and close itself.
>
> window.opener.history.go(0); self.close();
>
> But since the parent window is a struts .do I get the warning message.
>
>
> Thanks
> Leo
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Auto-resending the information on refreshing
>
>
> You are trying to re-post a page?
>
> Can you tell us a little more about what you are trying to do?
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leonardo Maciel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:34 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: Auto-resending the information on refreshing
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to refresh the opener window. I don't know the opener
> window URL, I
> > use:
> > window.opener.history.go(0)
> >
> > Is there a way to auto-resending the info and NOT to show the warning
> > message?
> > "The page cannot be refreshed without resending the information.
> >  click retry to send the information again, or click Cancel to return
> >  to the page you try to view"
> >
> > Thanks
> > Leo
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RE: approache to populate combo-box on the fly

[James Mitchell]

http://javascript.internet.com/forms/auto-drop-down.html

Works in IE and NS

JM

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:45 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: approache to populate combo-box on the fly
>
>
> Hi all
>
> We are using the following approache to populate a combo-box depending on
> the value of a changed combo-box :
>
> We have a iframe on the page, and on the onChange event of some combo-box,
> it loads an struts LoadSelectAction (generic for all cases like this) that
> populates other combo depending of some parameters.
>
> Is it a good practice? have anyone used other way to populate a combo
> without sending the entire page to server and flicking  the page?
>
> Emerson
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approache to populate combo-box on the fly

[Emerson Cargnin - MSA]

Hi all

We are using the following approache to populate a combo-box depending on
the value of a changed combo-box :

We have a iframe on the page, and on the onChange event of some combo-box,
it loads an struts LoadSelectAction (generic for all cases like this) that
populates other combo depending of some parameters.

Is it a good practice? have anyone used other way to populate a combo
without sending the entire page to server and flicking  the page?

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RE: Auto-resending the information on refreshing

[Leonardo Maciel]

Yes re-post it.

The parent window opens a child window. Once you click OK on the child window it 
should refresh the parent and close itself.

window.opener.history.go(0); self.close();

But since the parent window is a struts .do I get the warning message. 


Thanks
Leo


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From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:44 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Auto-resending the information on refreshing


You are trying to re-post a page?

Can you tell us a little more about what you are trying to do?

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Leonardo Maciel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:34 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: Auto-resending the information on refreshing
>
>
>
> I want to refresh the opener window. I don't know the opener window URL, I
> use:
> window.opener.history.go(0)
>
> Is there a way to auto-resending the info and NOT to show the warning
> message?
> "The page cannot be refreshed without resending the information.
>  click retry to send the information again, or click Cancel to return
>  to the page you try to view"
>
> Thanks
> Leo
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RE: Auto-resending the information on refreshing

[James Mitchell]

You are trying to re-post a page?

Can you tell us a little more about what you are trying to do?

JM

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:34 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: Auto-resending the information on refreshing
>
>
>
> I want to refresh the opener window. I don't know the opener window URL, I
> use:
> window.opener.history.go(0)
>
> Is there a way to auto-resending the info and NOT to show the warning
> message?
> "The page cannot be refreshed without resending the information.
>  click retry to send the information again, or click Cancel to return
>  to the page you try to view"
>
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[Leonardo Maciel]

I want to refresh the opener window. I don't know the opener window URL, I
use: 
window.opener.history.go(0)

Is there a way to auto-resending the info and NOT to show the warning
message?
"The page cannot be refreshed without resending the information.
 click retry to send the information again, or click Cancel to return 
 to the page you try to view"

Thanks
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Re: Auto-Replies

[Dave Derry]

Probably should check for any legal ramifications first. I'm not a lawyer,
but I've seen some on TV!


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From: "Eddie Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: Auto-Replies


Suggestion:

Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply messages?

... I have no clue how the list works, but I'd think that someone could do
that (the owner?).  Just send them a message that they've been removed
because of their auto-reply and remove them.

The message sent to them could indicate why they were removed and suggest
they come up with a 'smarter' auto-replier before going on vacation next
time ;)

... just a thought.

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RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Joseph Barefoot]

Yep, I have his O'Reilley text, most of which I've read--great tech writer.
I'm also adamant about the use of JDOM for all but the most
resource-intensive XML tasks, as I feel his API to be far superior to the
SAX or DOM standards.  I would actually NEVER use the DOM API instead of
JDOM;  I would only use SAX if speed/large data files were an issue.

Yeah, kudos to Jason too, I see his name all over my JDOM javadocs. :)


joe

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
>
>
> He's a great guy - I've had many conversations with him and Jason on
> jdom-interest.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Cavaness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:00 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
>
>
> Interesting digression, Brett is the editor for my Struts book. He's an
> awesome editor!
>
> Chuck
>
> At 01:42 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Brett Mclaughlin is the man.  JDOM rules.
> >
> >my .02
> >
> >
> >peace,
> >Joe
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:26 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
> > >
> > >
> > > And just for reference:
> > >
> > > Brett Mclaughlin, "Java and XML" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> > > Eric Burke, "Java and XSLT" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> > > Michael Kay, "XSLT, 2d ed." (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Stout, Kenneth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:10 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
> > >
> > >
> > > There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).
> > >
> > > 1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want
> to
> > > separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong
> tool
> > > but can be considered almost a programming language. So you
> > > either teach web
> > > designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into
> > > XSLT. Tools
> > > are on the way which should help solve this issue.
> > > 2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each
> time. It is my
> > > understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled
> XSLT
> > > (I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with
> that
> > > arena).
> > >
> > > Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the
> > > "should you
> > > today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.
> > >
> > > Kenneth.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Struts Newsgroup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:55 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> > > From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  ===
> > > Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> > > have XSLT
> > > applied to them to display html pages rather than using
> JSP's. I read an
> > > article recently that outlined this particular idea,
> apparently to even
> > > more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> > > supposedly increase
> > > development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> > > performance
> > > would differ, just how much quicker development time would be
> and simply
> > > why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which
> > > has stopped
> > > such an implementation being used?
> > > Thanks for your thoughts.
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[Galbreath, Mark]

He's a great guy - I've had many conversations with him and Jason on
jdom-interest.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Cavaness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:00 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp


Interesting digression, Brett is the editor for my Struts book. He's an 
awesome editor!

Chuck

At 01:42 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Brett Mclaughlin is the man.  JDOM rules.
>
>my .02
>
>
>peace,
>Joe
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:26 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
> >
> >
> > And just for reference:
> >
> > Brett Mclaughlin, "Java and XML" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> > Eric Burke, "Java and XSLT" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> > Michael Kay, "XSLT, 2d ed." (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stout, Kenneth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:10 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
> >
> >
> > There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).
> >
> > 1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want
to
> > separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong
tool
> > but can be considered almost a programming language. So you
> > either teach web
> > designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into
> > XSLT. Tools
> > are on the way which should help solve this issue.
> > 2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each time. It is my
> > understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled
XSLT
> > (I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with
that
> > arena).
> >
> > Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the
> > "should you
> > today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.
> >
> > Kenneth.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Struts Newsgroup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> >
> >
> > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> > From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  ===
> > Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> > have XSLT
> > applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
> > article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
> > more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> > supposedly increase
> > development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> > performance
> > would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply
> > why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which
> > has stopped
> > such an implementation being used?
> > Thanks for your thoughts.
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[Chuck Cavaness]

Interesting digression, Brett is the editor for my Struts book. He's an 
awesome editor!

Chuck

At 01:42 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Brett Mclaughlin is the man.  JDOM rules.
>
>my .02
>
>
>peace,
>Joe
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:26 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
> >
> >
> > And just for reference:
> >
> > Brett Mclaughlin, "Java and XML" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> > Eric Burke, "Java and XSLT" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> > Michael Kay, "XSLT, 2d ed." (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stout, Kenneth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:10 PM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
> >
> >
> > There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).
> >
> > 1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want to
> > separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong tool
> > but can be considered almost a programming language. So you
> > either teach web
> > designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into
> > XSLT. Tools
> > are on the way which should help solve this issue.
> > 2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each time. It is my
> > understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled XSLT
> > (I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with that
> > arena).
> >
> > Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the
> > "should you
> > today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.
> >
> > Kenneth.
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> >
> >
> > Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> > From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  ===
> > Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> > have XSLT
> > applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
> > article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
> > more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> > supposedly increase
> > development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> > performance
> > would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply
> > why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which
> > has stopped
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RE: bean:write returning null

[Bartley, Chris P]

Have you tried doing a  first, and then checking for null with
?

For example, say that you were doing this:

   

But you want to make sure that it isn't null first...so, try this:

   
   
  
   

(i haven't tested this, so my apologies for any syntax errors)

Hope that helps.

chris

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> 
> I tried logic:isEmpty without success.
> 
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> 
> 
> Can you use logic:present ?
> 
> Thinh
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> How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
>  
> Mark
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[Mannem, Taati]

Not at all..
Just a newbie! in struts

Regards,
Taati
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> You're not a lawyer too are you?
> 
> JM
> 
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> >
> >
> > Great!
> > I am becoming a worthy(??) disciple  if not a guru!
> > Keep Going Guys!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Taati
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> > >
> > > Yes you are
> > >
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg30390.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
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> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:34 PM
> > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By using Present tag I believe,,,
> > > > Leo and Jim helped me with this y'day
> > > > Am I correct Jim and Leo
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Taati
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> > > > >
> > > > > How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
> > > > >
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[James Mitchell]

You're not a lawyer too are you?

JM

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>
> Great!
>   I am becoming a worthy(??) disciple  if not a guru!
> Keep Going Guys!
>
> Regards,
> Taati
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> >
> > Yes you are
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> http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg30390.html
> >
> >
> >
> > JM
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mannem, Taati [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:34 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > By using Present tag I believe,,,
> > > Leo and Jim helped me with this y'day
> > > Am I correct Jim and Leo
> > > Regards,
> > > Taati
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Re: xml-xslt v jsp

[Jim Crossley]

"Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The question of 'if you should' is always up for grabs :-), but it comes
> closer to a 'yes' if you need to have multiple client types/outputs,
> such as HTML, PDF, WML, etc. If not, then it _may_ not be worth it to
> use.

We've found that XSLT works very well when your primary objective is
to deliver static content (flat files, or cache-able catalog-like
non-changing stuff) to different clients requiring different formats.

When the content is dynamic (read from a database in response to a
request and bean-ified for presentation), then using XSLT to further
transform that data degrades performance too much.  You're better off
using straight Java to do the transformations at the point of
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RE: bean:write returning null

[Mannem, Taati]

Great!
I am becoming a worthy(??) disciple  if not a guru!
Keep Going Guys!

Regards,
Taati
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> 
> Yes you are
> http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg30390.html
> 
> 
> 
> JM 
> 
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> > From: Mannem, Taati [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: bean:write returning null
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > By using Present tag I believe,,,
> > Leo and Jim helped me with this y'day
> > Am I correct Jim and Leo
> > Regards,
> > Taati
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> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:30 PM
> > > To:   Struts (E-mail)
> > > Subject:  bean:write returning null
> > > 
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> > > Mark
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RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Joseph Barefoot]

Brett Mclaughlin is the man.  JDOM rules.

my .02


peace,
Joe

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>
>
> And just for reference:
>
> Brett Mclaughlin, "Java and XML" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> Eric Burke, "Java and XSLT" (O'Reilly, 2001)
> Michael Kay, "XSLT, 2d ed." (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stout, Kenneth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:10 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp
>
>
> There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).
>
> 1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want to
> separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong tool
> but can be considered almost a programming language. So you
> either teach web
> designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into
> XSLT. Tools
> are on the way which should help solve this issue.
> 2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each time. It is my
> understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled XSLT
> (I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with that
> arena).
>
> Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the
> "should you
> today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.
>
> Kenneth.
>
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> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
>
>
> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  ===
> Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> have XSLT
> applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
> article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
> more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> supposedly increase
> development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> performance
> would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply
> why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which
> has stopped
> such an implementation being used?
> Thanks for your thoughts.
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RE: bean:write returning null

[James Mitchell]

Yes you are
http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg30390.html



JM 

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> 
> 
> 
> By using Present tag I believe,,,
> Leo and Jim helped me with this y'day
> Am I correct Jim and Leo
> Regards,
> Taati
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> > To: Struts (E-mail)
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> > 
> > How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
> >  
> > Mark
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RE: bean:write returning null

[Galbreath, Mark]

I tried logic:isEmpty without success.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:44 PM
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Can you use logic:present ?

Thinh

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How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
 
Mark
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[Thinh Doan]

Can you use logic:present ?

Thinh

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How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
 
Mark
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RE: bean:write returning null

[Mannem, Taati]

By using Present tag I believe,,,
Leo and Jim helped me with this y'day
Am I correct Jim and Leo
Regards,
Taati
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>  
> Mark
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Reg the Action Errors and Action class

[Mannem, Taati]

Guys!
I know its friday but can not stop myself from asking a question or a doubt!

Errors as you know can be many types but broadly classified as Front End
Validation Errors and BackEnD validation errors..
Now the front end validation(the form validation) is being handled by the
form validate and I am handling the errors which the backend is sending me
by instantiating the Actionerrors in the action class and forwarding it to
the appropriate page.Is my approach correct and if yes what are the things
that I should take care off?
If my approach is wrong where am I goofing up?

TIA
Regards,
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bean:write returning null

[Galbreath, Mark]

How are you guys testing for this in JSP?
 
Mark
"De recta non tolerandum sunt."

RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Robert]

In answer to #2, there is the XSLTC (C for compiler) which is available
from the javasoft website somewhere (probably the developer connection),
which precompiles an XSLT sheet into a Java class.

The question of 'if you should' is always up for grabs :-), but it comes
closer to a 'yes' if you need to have multiple client types/outputs,
such as HTML, PDF, WML, etc. If not, then it _may_ not be worth it to
use.

- Robert

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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:10 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp

There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).

1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want
to
separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong
tool
but can be considered almost a programming language. So you either teach
web
designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into XSLT.
Tools
are on the way which should help solve this issue.
2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each time. It is my
understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled
XSLT
(I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with
that
arena).

Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the "should
you
today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.

Kenneth.

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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xml-xslt v jsp


Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ===
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that have
XSLT 
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an

article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even 
more separate the business logic from presentation, and supposedly
increase 
development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
performance 
would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply

why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which has
stopped 
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RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Galbreath, Mark]

And just for reference:

Brett Mclaughlin, "Java and XML" (O'Reilly, 2001)
Eric Burke, "Java and XSLT" (O'Reilly, 2001)
Michael Kay, "XSLT, 2d ed." (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Stout, Kenneth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:10 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp


There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).

1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want to
separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong tool
but can be considered almost a programming language. So you either teach web
designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into XSLT. Tools
are on the way which should help solve this issue.
2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each time. It is my
understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled XSLT
(I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with that
arena).

Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the "should you
today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.

Kenneth.

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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xml-xslt v jsp


Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ===
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that have XSLT 
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an 
article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even 
more separate the business logic from presentation, and supposedly increase 
development time. I would have a couple of questions about how performance 
would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply 
why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which has stopped 
such an implementation being used?
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[James Mitchell]

LOL

JM

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>
> Dude, you've officially watched it too many times. :)
>
> joe
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:11 PM
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> >
> >
> > How you English say, 'I one more time, mac, unclog my nose in your
> > direction', sons of a window-dresser! So, you think you could
> > out-clever us
> > French folk with your silly knees-bent running about advancing
> > behavior?! I
> > wave my private parts at your aunties, you cheesy lot of second hand
> > electric donkey-bottom biters.
> >
> > JM
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:08 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help!
> > > I'm being
> > > repressed!
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > > Behalf Of Jim Crossley
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:09 PM
> > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Be quiet!
> > > >
> > > > Be quiet!  I order you to be quiet!
> > > >
> > > > Be quiet!
> > > >
> > > > Shut up!
> > > >
> > > > Shut up!  Will you shut up!
> > > >
> > > > Shut up!
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Bloody peasant!
> > > >
> > > > (Did you see me repressing you?  You saw it didn't you?)
> > > >
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Three questions may cross in safety.
> > > > >
> > > > > JM
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
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> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:01 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Three questions.  He who answers the five questions...
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:54 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3 questions
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:49 PM
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because some watery tart gave him a sword.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you know he's a king?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, you have to know these things when you're a king,
> > you know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two
> > > > swallows, working in
> > > > > > > > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> > > > > > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > > > > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> > > > > > > other hand...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Russ
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain
> > > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > > > > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >He'll get better.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>-Original Message-
> > > > > > > > >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > > > > > > > >>
> > >

RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Stout, Kenneth]

There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).

1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want to
separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong tool
but can be considered almost a programming language. So you either teach web
designer's XSLT, or you have a programmer convert the HTML into XSLT. Tools
are on the way which should help solve this issue.
2) Performance. XSLT is interrupted, and is executed each time. It is my
understanding that there is an initiative underway to create compiled XSLT
(I believe they are called translets, but I've not kept in touch with that
arena).

Neither of these answer the "can you" question. They address the "should you
today" question. I am not say don't do it. Just be aware.

Kenneth.

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Subject: xml-xslt v jsp


Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ===
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that have XSLT 
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an 
article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even 
more separate the business logic from presentation, and supposedly increase 
development time. I would have a couple of questions about how performance 
would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply 
why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which has stopped 
such an implementation being used?
Thanks for your thoughts.

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RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Robert]

However, Cocoon does have caching capabilities and Cocoon2 uses SAX
instead of DOM to deal with just that situation. It also has 'action'
capabilities, analogous to Struts, but Cocoon as a whole is much more
complex than Struts.

- Robert

-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:08 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp

I don't know much about Cocoon, but anytime you have to parse and
transform,
it's going to take time.  XML -> XSLT -> HTML is done a lot in the ASP
world
(I worked on such a project last summer) and the performance hit is very
noticeable.  XML is best suited for business-to-business communication
between disparate systems.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:07 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp


I also posted a "what do you think about cocoon" question a week or so
ago.and still haven't gotten a response.

I'm still waiting.

JM

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
>
>
> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  ===
> Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> have XSLT
> applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read
an
> article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to
even
> more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> supposedly increase
> development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> performance
> would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and
simply
> why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which
> has stopped
> such an implementation being used?
> Thanks for your thoughts.
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RE: Auto-Replies

[Joseph Barefoot]

Dude, you've officially watched it too many times. :)

joe

> -Original Message-
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:11 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
>
>
> How you English say, 'I one more time, mac, unclog my nose in your
> direction', sons of a window-dresser! So, you think you could
> out-clever us
> French folk with your silly knees-bent running about advancing
> behavior?! I
> wave my private parts at your aunties, you cheesy lot of second hand
> electric donkey-bottom biters.
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:08 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> >
> >
> > Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help!
> > I'm being
> > repressed!
> >
> > JM
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > Behalf Of Jim Crossley
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:09 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
> > >
> > >
> > > Be quiet!
> > >
> > > Be quiet!  I order you to be quiet!
> > >
> > > Be quiet!
> > >
> > > Shut up!
> > >
> > > Shut up!  Will you shut up!
> > >
> > > Shut up!
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Bloody peasant!
> > >
> > > (Did you see me repressing you?  You saw it didn't you?)
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Three questions may cross in safety.
> > > >
> > > > JM
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:01 PM
> > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Three questions.  He who answers the five questions...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:54 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > 3 questions
> > > > >
> > > > > JM
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:49 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because some watery tart gave him a sword.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you know he's a king?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, you have to know these things when you're a king,
> you know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two
> > > swallows, working in
> > > > > > > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> > > > > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > > > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> > > > > > other hand...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Russ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain
> > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > > > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >He'll get better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>-Original Message-
> > > > > > > >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> > > > > > > >>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Suggestion:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Why don't we remove people from the list that generate
> > > auto-reply
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>messages?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >

RE: Auto-Replies

[James Mitchell]

How you English say, 'I one more time, mac, unclog my nose in your
direction', sons of a window-dresser! So, you think you could out-clever us
French folk with your silly knees-bent running about advancing behavior?! I
wave my private parts at your aunties, you cheesy lot of second hand
electric donkey-bottom biters.

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:08 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
>
>
> Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help!
> I'm being
> repressed!
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Jim Crossley
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:09 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
> >
> >
> > Be quiet!
> >
> > Be quiet!  I order you to be quiet!
> >
> > Be quiet!
> >
> > Shut up!
> >
> > Shut up!  Will you shut up!
> >
> > Shut up!
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Bloody peasant!
> >
> > (Did you see me repressing you?  You saw it didn't you?)
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Three questions may cross in safety.
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:01 PM
> > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Three questions.  He who answers the five questions...
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:54 PM
> > > >
> > > > 3 questions
> > > >
> > > > JM
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:49 PM
> > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Because some watery tart gave him a sword.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you know he's a king?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > JM
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two
> > swallows, working in
> > > > > > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> > > > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> > > > > other hand...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Russ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain
> > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >He'll get better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>-Original Message-
> > > > > > >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> > > > > > >>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>Suggestion:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>Why don't we remove people from the list that generate
> > auto-reply
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>messages?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
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RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[Galbreath, Mark]

I don't know much about Cocoon, but anytime you have to parse and transform,
it's going to take time.  XML -> XSLT -> HTML is done a lot in the ASP world
(I worked on such a project last summer) and the performance hit is very
noticeable.  XML is best suited for business-to-business communication
between disparate systems.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:07 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: xml-xslt v jsp


I also posted a "what do you think about cocoon" question a week or so
ago.and still haven't gotten a response.

I'm still waiting.

JM

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
>
>
> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
> From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  ===
> Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> have XSLT
> applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
> article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
> more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> supposedly increase
> development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> performance
> would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply
> why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which
> has stopped
> such an implementation being used?
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[James Mitchell]

Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being
repressed!

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Jim Crossley
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:09 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
>
>
> Be quiet!
>
> Be quiet!  I order you to be quiet!
>
> Be quiet!
>
> Shut up!
>
> Shut up!  Will you shut up!
>
> Shut up!
>
> ...
>
> Bloody peasant!
>
> (Did you see me repressing you?  You saw it didn't you?)
>
> ;-)
>
> "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Three questions may cross in safety.
> >
> > JM
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:01 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > >
> > >
> > > Three questions.  He who answers the five questions...
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:54 PM
> > >
> > > 3 questions
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:49 PM
> > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
> > > >
> > > > Because some watery tart gave him a sword.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
> > > >
> > > > How do you know he's a king?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > >
> > > > Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
> > > >
> > > > JM
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two
> swallows, working in
> > > > > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> > > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> > > > other hand...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Russ
> > > > >
> > > > > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain
> sufficient airspeed
> > > > > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >He'll get better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>-Original Message-
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> > > > > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
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RE: xml-xslt v jsp

[James Mitchell]

I also posted a "what do you think about cocoon" question a week or so
ago.and still haven't gotten a response.

I'm still waiting.

JM

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> Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
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>  ===
> Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
> have XSLT
> applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
> article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
> more separate the business logic from presentation, and
> supposedly increase
> development time. I would have a couple of questions about how
> performance
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[Jim Crossley]

Be quiet!

Be quiet!  I order you to be quiet!

Be quiet!

Shut up!

Shut up!  Will you shut up!

Shut up!

...

Bloody peasant!

(Did you see me repressing you?  You saw it didn't you?)

;-)

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> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:01 PM
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> > Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
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> > Three questions.  He who answers the five questions...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:54 PM
> >
> > 3 questions
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> > JM
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:49 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
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> > >
> > >
> > > Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
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> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
> > >
> > > How do you know he's a king?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
> > >
> > > Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> > > > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> > > sufficient airspeed
> > > > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> > > other hand...
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> > > >
> > > > -Russ
> > > >
> > > > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> > > > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > > > >
> > > > >-Original Message-
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> > > > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
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Three questions may cross in safety.

JM

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>
> 3 questions
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> JM
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> >
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> >
> > How do you know he's a king?
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> > >
> > > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> > > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> > sufficient airspeed
> > > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> > other hand...
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > >
> > > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> > >
> > > -Russ
> > >
> > > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> > >
> > > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> > > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
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> > > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
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Three questions.  He who answers the five questions...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:54 PM

3 questions

JM

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>
> Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
>
> Because some watery tart gave him a sword.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
>
> How do you know he's a king?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
>
> Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
>
> JM
>
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> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> >
> > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> sufficient airspeed
> > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> other hand...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> >
> > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> >
> > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
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> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
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Subject: xml-xslt v jsp
From: jisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ===
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that have XSLT 
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an 
article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even 
more separate the business logic from presentation, and supposedly increase 
development time. I would have a couple of questions about how performance 
would differ, just how much quicker development time would be and simply 
why this hasn't been implemented already, is there a flaw which has stopped 
such an implementation being used?
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[Stout, Kenneth]

Answers to the 5 questions.

Yes.
No.
Maybe.
Sometimes.
You want what?

You can pick the order.

Kenneth.

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From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:49 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Auto-Replies


Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.

-Original Message-
From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM

Because some watery tart gave him a sword.

-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM

How do you know he's a king?

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
>
> Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain sufficient airspeed
> velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the other hand...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
>
> What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
>
> -Russ
>
> Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> >velocity to carry a coconut?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> >
> >He'll get better.
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> >>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>Suggestion:
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[James Mitchell]

3 questions

JM

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:49 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
>
>
> Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM
>
> Because some watery tart gave him a sword.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM
>
> How do you know he's a king?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM
>
> Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> >
> > Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> > conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain
> sufficient airspeed
> > velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the
> other hand...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> >
> > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> >
> > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> > >
> > >He'll get better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> > >>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>
> > >>>Suggestion:
> > >>>
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[Galbreath, Mark]

Okay, okay...just answer the 5 questions.

-Original Message-
From: Pedone, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:47 PM

Because some watery tart gave him a sword.

-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:45 PM

How do you know he's a king?

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
>
> Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain sufficient airspeed
> velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the other hand...
>
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>
> What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
>
> -Russ
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[Pedone, Tim]

Because some watery tart gave him a sword.

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How do you know he's a king?

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

JM

> -Original Message-
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>
> Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain sufficient airspeed
> velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the other hand...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
>
> What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
>
> -Russ
>
> Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> >velocity to carry a coconut?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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RE: Auto-Replies

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How do you know he's a king?

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From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:42 PM

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

JM

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
>
> Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain sufficient airspeed
> velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the other hand...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
>
> What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
>
> -Russ
>
> Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> >velocity to carry a coconut?
> >
> >-Original Message-
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> >He'll get better.
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> >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
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Re: Auto-Replies

[Eddie Bush]

I'm glad someone did =/

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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Auto-Replies


> LOL..It took me a few seconds.but I got it.LOL
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> >
> > Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> >
> > >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> > >velocity to carry a coconut?
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> > >>Could we turn him into a newt?
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
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RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp

[James Mitchell]

You know.I don't know if what you want is possible.

Moreover, the question to answer is "should we be doing it that way?"

I can see how one might use a table or few to hold site text (for i18n or
whatever), but whatever you grab should *NOT* be code.

I can think at least ten ways to get around mixing your presentation layer
AND bus. logic layer into the data layer (God, what a kluge!!! I haven't
seen that since my delve in Internet Banking (ASP based) a few years back)


If you have to recompile after a db pull, then you should consider moving to
ASP with its  Execute command.

For examples of how to do this, take a look at the "I love you" virus.
Remember that one?
I managed to get a copy before the exchange admins deleted it from
existence.
Let me know if you want a copy (although I can't imagine why).


JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Galpin, Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:00 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:49 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
> >
> > Do you mean displaying your site text from a db table?
> >
> > Sorry, I guess I am not following what you are trying to do.
>
> Ok picture this - instead of a jsp include, or template call in
> my jsp page,
> I want to dynamically grab some jsp/html text from a database and
> include/parse/compile it at runtime - just like the container
> would do when
> parsing the jsp file and creating a servlet which is actually running when
> you access that jsp.
>
> So it would look something like...
>
> My.jsp:
>
> 
>
> DnamicIncludeTag.java:
>
> String dynamicJspPage = getDynamicJspPageFromDBOrBean(chunk);
> // parse the string which contains jsp/html into a servlet
> // like the container would do, execute it, and inject
> // the output into the current response output.
>
> Clearer?
>
> Actually the real problem I'd like to solve is how to include
> some jsp that
> is outside our application - in other words allow someone to change a few
> select jsp files without unwarring our app. I think the answer is that you
> don't. :)
>
> Tia
> charles
>
> > JM
> >
> > P.S. Please forgive my stupidity, I am a lawyer ;)
> I'll forgive you this one time :)
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RE: Auto-Replies

[James Mitchell]

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

JM

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:32 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
>
>
> Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
> conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain sufficient airspeed
> velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the other hand...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
>
> What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
>
> -Russ
>
> Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> >velocity to carry a coconut?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> >
> >He'll get better.
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> >>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>Suggestion:
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RE: Auto-Replies

[Galbreath, Mark]

Actually, I believe the theory is that it was two swallows, working in
conjunction.  A lone swallow simply couldn't maintain sufficient airspeed
velocity to carry a coconut.  Now, a European swallow on the other hand...

-Original Message-
From: Russell Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM

What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

-Russ

Galbreath, Mark wrote:

>But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
>velocity to carry a coconut?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
>
>He'll get better.
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
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>>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
>>
>>
>>Could we turn him into a newt?
>>
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>>
>>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
>>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>Suggestion:
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>>>  
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RE: Auto-Replies

[Andrew B Forman]

Clearly not an African swallow as they are non-migratory.

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What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

-Russ


Galbreath, Mark wrote:

>But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
>velocity to carry a coconut?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
>
>He'll get better.
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
>>
>>
>>Could we turn him into a newt?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
>>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>Suggestion:
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LOL..It took me a few seconds.but I got it.LOL

JM 

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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:20 PM
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> 
> 
> 
> What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
> 
> -Russ
> 
> 
> Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> 
> >But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
> >velocity to carry a coconut?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
> >
> >He'll get better.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>Could we turn him into a newt?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> >>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>Suggestion:
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ActionForm Question in wizard process with browser back button press case.

[Park, Dongwon-Contractor]

> Hello,
> 
> I could catch out-of-sync process in my wizard process but my Form bean
> could have unwanted changes.
> 
> Let me explain in more detail.
> 
> User is now "step 3" screen and click back button in browser and goes back
> to "step 1" screen.
> In step 1 screen, user modify his previous input and click "continue"
> button.
> In Form class, we detect that it is out of sync and bypass validation and
> pass to Action class.
> In Action class, it also detect out-of-sync  and map to the original step
> - "step3" with error message.
> But we still have unwanted changes in our Form.
> 
> Of course, we can have additional field which are only stored after
> validation but I am looking for the decent way than this.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> DW
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ActionForm Question in wizard process with browser back button press case.

[Park, Dongwon-Contractor]

Hello,

I could catch out-of-sync process in my wizard process but my Form bean
could have unwanted changes.

Let me explain in more detail.

User is now "step 3" screen and click back button in browser and goes back
to "step 1" screen.
In step 1 screen, user modify his previous input and click "continue"
button.
In Form class, we detect that it is out of sync and bypass validation and
pass to Action class.
In Action class, it also detect out-of-sync  and map to the original step -
"step3" with error message.
But we still have unwanted changes in our Form.

Of course, we can have additional field which are only stored after
validation but I am looking for the decent way than this.


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Re: Auto-Replies

[Russell Beattie]

What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

-Russ


Galbreath, Mark wrote:

>But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
>velocity to carry a coconut?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM
>
>He'll get better.
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
>>
>>
>>Could we turn him into a newt?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
>>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>Suggestion:
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RE: Auto-Replies

[Galbreath, Mark]

But will he know if a lone swallow could maintain sufficient airspeed
velocity to carry a coconut?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:14 PM

He'll get better.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> 
> 
> Could we turn him into a newt?
> 
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> > From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Suggestion:
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RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp

[Galpin, Charles]

> -Original Message-
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:49 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
> 
> Do you mean displaying your site text from a db table?
> 
> Sorry, I guess I am not following what you are trying to do.

Ok picture this - instead of a jsp include, or template call in my jsp page,
I want to dynamically grab some jsp/html text from a database and
include/parse/compile it at runtime - just like the container would do when
parsing the jsp file and creating a servlet which is actually running when
you access that jsp.

So it would look something like...

My.jsp:



DnamicIncludeTag.java:

String dynamicJspPage = getDynamicJspPageFromDBOrBean(chunk);
// parse the string which contains jsp/html into a servlet
// like the container would do, execute it, and inject
// the output into the current response output.

Clearer?

Actually the real problem I'd like to solve is how to include some jsp that
is outside our application - in other words allow someone to change a few
select jsp files without unwarring our app. I think the answer is that you
don't. :)

Tia
charles

> JM
> 
> P.S. Please forgive my stupidity, I am a lawyer ;)
I'll forgive you this one time :)

Re: Auto-Replies

[Eddie Bush]

Either way suits me fine ;)

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From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Auto-Replies


> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:07:36 -0500
> > From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
> >
> > I left the person voice mail to get me their address so they could be
> > removed.  I wonder if they're checking it ...
> >
> > So, Craig, if I get their address to you, could you remove them?
> >
> > ... LOL what would you be willing to pay to see the look on thier face
when
> > they get that message?
> >
> > "Hi, you don't know me ... " LOL
> >
>
> Of course, he or she will probably undo the forwarding (which is fine with
> all of us) -- we don't really need to unsubscribe anyone if they fix the
> problem when it's brought to their attention.
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On Fri, 10 May 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:07:36 -0500
> From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
>
> I left the person voice mail to get me their address so they could be
> removed.  I wonder if they're checking it ...
>
> So, Craig, if I get their address to you, could you remove them?
>
> ... LOL what would you be willing to pay to see the look on thier face when
> they get that message?
>
> "Hi, you don't know me ... " LOL
>

Of course, he or she will probably undo the forwarding (which is fine with
all of us) -- we don't really need to unsubscribe anyone if they fix the
problem when it's brought to their attention.

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RE: Auto-Replies

[Greg.Reddin]

He'll get better.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Auto-Replies
> 
> 
> Could we turn him into a newt?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:02 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Auto-Replies
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> > From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Auto-Replies
> >
> > Suggestion:
> >
> > Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply
> messages?
> >
> 
> In general, I try to do just that on things like vacation replies.
> However, it's not always an issue of removing direct 
> subscribers -- and
> the recent "temporarily exceeded quota" situation going on now is an
> example.
> 
> There is no subscriber to STRUTS-USER that has 
> "sprintpcs.com" in their
> subscription address (hardly a surprise, given the volume of 
> messages :-).
> This particular message is coming from some existing 
> subscriber that is
> forwarding their own mailbox -- and there is no clue in the reply back
> from Sprint on who the guilty party is.
> 
> Craig
> 
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Re: Auto-Replies

[Eddie Bush]

I left the person voice mail to get me their address so they could be
removed.  I wonder if they're checking it ...

So, Craig, if I get their address to you, could you remove them?

... LOL what would you be willing to pay to see the look on thier face when
they get that message?

"Hi, you don't know me ... " LOL

- Original Message -
From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Auto-Replies


>
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> > From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Auto-Replies
> >
> > Suggestion:
> >
> > Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply
messages?
> >
>
> In general, I try to do just that on things like vacation replies.
> However, it's not always an issue of removing direct subscribers -- and
> the recent "temporarily exceeded quota" situation going on now is an
> example.
>
> There is no subscriber to STRUTS-USER that has "sprintpcs.com" in their
> subscription address (hardly a surprise, given the volume of messages :-).
> This particular message is coming from some existing subscriber that is
> forwarding their own mailbox -- and there is no clue in the reply back
> from Sprint on who the guilty party is.
>
> Craig
>
>
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RE: Auto-Replies

[Galbreath, Mark]

Could we turn him into a newt?

-Original Message-
From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:02 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Auto-Replies




On Fri, 10 May 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Auto-Replies
>
> Suggestion:
>
> Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply
messages?
>

In general, I try to do just that on things like vacation replies.
However, it's not always an issue of removing direct subscribers -- and
the recent "temporarily exceeded quota" situation going on now is an
example.

There is no subscriber to STRUTS-USER that has "sprintpcs.com" in their
subscription address (hardly a surprise, given the volume of messages :-).
This particular message is coming from some existing subscriber that is
forwarding their own mailbox -- and there is no clue in the reply back
from Sprint on who the guilty party is.

Craig



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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Nelson, Laird]

> -Original Message-
> I may just be confused.  I thought that I needed a state bean 
> to hold the
> address information in and that I needed a form bean to 
> create the form on
> the jsp page.

Think of the form bean (or form beans, plural) as the state of some portion
of the total number of text boxes, radio buttons and other user input,
regardless of the page(s) on which it all appears.It's an object that
describes the state of the user-editable portions of the web page you just
served up.

The concept of a "state bean" shows up in the Struts user guide, and is an
attempt to describe a good design pattern, viz. that you keep the state of
your *application* separate from the web-related bits of your application.
It is not a necessary thing to get Struts up and working.  Struts, for
example, does not have any class called a StateBean, or anything like it.

Cheers,
Laird

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Re: ¿DynaBeans performance?

[Adolfo Miguelez]

Uppps,

thanks Craig and apologises for asking something that, probably, I could 
find for myself. However, I think this kind of questions enrichs the forum 
anyway since more people can wonder the same and having a place to find 
quick responses is cool.

Apologises anyway. Best regards,

Adolfo.

>From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: ¿DynaBeans performance?
>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:58:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
>On Fri, 10 May 2002, Adolfo Miguelez wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:55:26 +
> > From: Adolfo Miguelez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: ¿DynaBeans performance?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > despite, AFAIK, Struts propose usual JavaBeans as value objects to be 
>sent
> > to JSPs, we are using general hashmaps to hold the results from database
> > queries to JSP. It allow as skipping to create a particular bean for 
>each
> > result from the database, and making a general mechanism rather than a
> > specific one.
> >
> > The backward of that is that custom tags assume that data holders in JSP 
>are
> > beans and they allow just to render info stored in them rather than in
> > hashmaps so, in some cases, we need to provide a customized custom tag 
>to
> > introspects hashmaps info from the JSP.
> >
> > We have just met DynaBeans days ago, and I was wondering if we could 
>modify
> > our value objects to be DynaBeans rather than hashmaps. In that way, we
> > would not need to patch Struts custom tags. they seems to be available 
>since
> > Struts 1.1b1, is not it?
> >
>
>Yes, in terms of using DynaActionForm.  You can also use standard
>DynaBeans directly (for instance, to create value objects) by grabbing
>version 1.3 of the commons-beanutils package.
>
>   http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/beanutils/
>
>The JavaDocs have pretty thorough coverage of DynaBeans, as well as the
>alternative implementations that are available in the standard package.
>
> > My question is which one is performance impact of creating DynaBeans on 
>the
> > fly, and filling them with results from database queries. Since 
>DynaBeans
> > are created by introspection techniques, I am afraid they could slow 
>down
> > the application performance.
> >
>
>Have you looked inside the DynaBeans implementation classes by chance?
>It's just using HashMaps underneath :-)
>
>In fact, if you use the BasicDynaBean implementation class for your value
>objects, there is *no* reflection going on in the get() and set() methods.
>The only difference, compared to maintaining your own HashMap, is that
>BasicDynaBean will do property name and property type checking for you.
>
> > Does anyone have made any test in this area or any opinion in this 
>concern?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Adolfo
> >
>
>Craig
>
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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Villegas, Courtney]

thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:06 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean


Your form bean will hold the state if you declare 
its scope="session" in struts-config, have a reset()
method in the bean that just makes a call to 
super.reset(mapping, request), and synchronize 
your mutators and accessors).

Otherwise, access the state of the form bean properties
in the standard manner:
String city = formBean.getCity();


-Original Message-
From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:55 PM

I may just be confused.  I thought that I needed a state bean to hold the
address information in and that I needed a form bean to create the form on
the jsp page.



-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:53 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean


I'm not following you.  Why do you have two beans that do the same thing?
What is the program flow?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM

I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables (address, city,
zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.

I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to determine how to
use this.

If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the Struts site and
could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
and form beans.  

Thanks
Courtney


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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Galbreath, Mark]

Your form bean will hold the state if you declare 
its scope="session" in struts-config, have a reset()
method in the bean that just makes a call to 
super.reset(mapping, request), and synchronize 
your mutators and accessors).

Otherwise, access the state of the form bean properties
in the standard manner:
String city = formBean.getCity();


-Original Message-
From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:55 PM

I may just be confused.  I thought that I needed a state bean to hold the
address information in and that I needed a form bean to create the form on
the jsp page.



-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:53 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean


I'm not following you.  Why do you have two beans that do the same thing?
What is the program flow?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM

I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables (address, city,
zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.

I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to determine how to
use this.

If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the Struts site and
could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
and form beans.  

Thanks
Courtney


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Re: Auto-Replies

[Craig R. McClanahan]

On Fri, 10 May 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:29:33 -0500
> From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Auto-Replies
>
> Suggestion:
>
> Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply messages?
>

In general, I try to do just that on things like vacation replies.
However, it's not always an issue of removing direct subscribers -- and
the recent "temporarily exceeded quota" situation going on now is an
example.

There is no subscriber to STRUTS-USER that has "sprintpcs.com" in their
subscription address (hardly a surprise, given the volume of messages :-).
This particular message is coming from some existing subscriber that is
forwarding their own mailbox -- and there is no clue in the reply back
from Sprint on who the guilty party is.

Craig



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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Villegas, Courtney]

I may just be confused.  I thought that I needed a state bean to hold the
address information in and that I needed a form bean to create the form on
the jsp page.



-Original Message-
From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:53 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean


I'm not following you.  Why do you have two beans that do the same thing?
What is the program flow?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM

I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables (address, city,
zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.

I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to determine how to
use this.

If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the Struts site and
could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
and form beans.  

Thanks
Courtney


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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Villegas, Courtney]

yes.  I have actually gotten other form beans to work (with the help of a
Struts savvy colleague).  I am here at the office alone today and am trying
to figure this one out without his help.

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean


Have you downloaded the Struts binary and/or source dist?

Have you deployed it correctly on a servlet container such as Tomcat (my
favorite)???

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Form Bean vs. State Bean
>
>
> I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables
> (address, city,
> zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.
>
> I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
> imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to
> determine how to
> use this.
>
> If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
> new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
> how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the
> Struts site and
> could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
> and form beans.
>
> Thanks
> Courtney
>
>


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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Galbreath, Mark]

I'm not following you.  Why do you have two beans that do the same thing?
What is the program flow?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM

I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables (address, city,
zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.

I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to determine how to
use this.

If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the Struts site and
could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
and form beans.  

Thanks
Courtney


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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Villegas, Courtney]

no..but I will :)

-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean


Have you looked into the DynaActionForm?

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Form Bean vs. State Bean
>
>
> I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables
> (address, city,
> zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.
>
> I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
> imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to
> determine how to
> use this.
>
> If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
> new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
> how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the
> Struts site and
> could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
> and form beans.
>
> Thanks
> Courtney
>
>


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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[James Mitchell]

Have you downloaded the Struts binary and/or source dist?

Have you deployed it correctly on a servlet container such as Tomcat (my
favorite)???

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Form Bean vs. State Bean
>
>
> I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables
> (address, city,
> zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.
>
> I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
> imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to
> determine how to
> use this.
>
> If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
> new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
> how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the
> Struts site and
> could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
> and form beans.
>
> Thanks
> Courtney
>
>


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RE: Form Bean vs. State Bean

[James Mitchell]

Have you looked into the DynaActionForm?

JM

> -Original Message-
> From: Villegas, Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Form Bean vs. State Bean
>
>
> I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables
> (address, city,
> zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.
>
> I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
> imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to
> determine how to
> use this.
>
> If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
> new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
> how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the
> Struts site and
> could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
> and form beans.
>
> Thanks
> Courtney
>
>


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Form Bean vs. State Bean

[Villegas, Courtney]

I have a state bean named addressLookup that has 3 variables (address, city,
zipCode) and setters and getters for all 3 properties.

I am now trying to write my form bean that I can access in my jsp.  I have
imported the addressLookup state bean and am now trying to determine how to
use this.

If I create 3 variables (address, city, zipCode) within the form bean and
new setters and getters, all is dandy.  However, I am trying to figure out
how to reference those variables and properties in my state bean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I looked on the Struts site and
could only find a textual description of the difference between the state
and form beans.  

Thanks
Courtney

RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp

[James Mitchell]

Do you mean displaying your site text from a db table?

Sorry, I guess I am not following what you are trying to do.

JM

P.S. Please forgive my stupidity, I am a lawyer ;)


> -Original Message-
> From: Galpin, Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
>
>
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2002 6:05 PM
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > >Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
> > >
> > >
> > >Do you mean have jsp1 generate text that is used inside jsp2
> before jsp2
> > is
> > >compiled?
> > >
> > >JM
>
> Although the OP wasn't interested in that, I am. Can this be done? Say get
> the text out of a database, and have it be parsed/compiled/included?
>
> Tia
> charles
>


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RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp

[Galpin, Charles]

> >-Original Message-
> >From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2002 6:05 PM
> >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
> >
> >
> >Do you mean have jsp1 generate text that is used inside jsp2 before jsp2
> is
> >compiled?
> >
> >JM

Although the OP wasn't interested in that, I am. Can this be done? Say get
the text out of a database, and have it be parsed/compiled/included?

Tia
charles

RE: Auto-Replies

[James Mitchell]

+1

JM 

> -Original Message-
> From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:30 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Auto-Replies
> 
> 
> Suggestion:
> 
> Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply 
> messages?
> 
> ... I have no clue how the list works, but I'd think that someone 
> could do that (the owner?).  Just send them a message that 
> they've been removed because of their auto-reply and remove them.
> 
> The message sent to them could indicate why they were removed and 
> suggest they come up with a 'smarter' auto-replier before going 
> on vacation next time ;)
> 
> ... just a thought.
> 
> Eddie
> 
> 

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Auto-Replies

[Eddie Bush]

Suggestion:

Why don't we remove people from the list that generate auto-reply messages?

... I have no clue how the list works, but I'd think that someone could do that (the 
owner?).  Just send them a message that they've been removed because of their 
auto-reply and remove them.

The message sent to them could indicate why they were removed and suggest they come up 
with a 'smarter' auto-replier before going on vacation next time ;)

... just a thought.

Eddie

Re: include a dynamically created page in my jsp

[adam]

the flush is important as it executes  the page fragment and sets the 
output to be the same writer as the currrent page.

Only works Catalina 4 or later (Servlet 1.3 complient Engine)



Harnath, Santosh (Cognizant) wrote:

>I have A URL as a variable and I want to include this as my  JSP include
>Somthing like  />
>
>Regards, 
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2002 6:05 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
>
>
>Do you mean have jsp1 generate text that is used inside jsp2 before jsp2 is
>compiled?
>
>JM
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Harnath, Santosh (Cognizant) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 6:52 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: include a dynamically created page in my jsp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How do i include a dynamically created page in my jsp  ?
>>
>> I have already constructed the URL now i need to do an include after
>>reading the same from the session.
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stuck with 1.0.2

[Michael Dingler]

Hi there,

I'm currently rewriting some protoype parts of an web
application with struts. Unfortunately I've got to use
1.0.2, so I miss some neat opportunities...

Once again it's a dynamic forms problem, at least I think
so...
One page where I have the problem is the user administration
part. Basically, you should be able to add new users,
change the permissions of existing ones or delete them.

So my pure JSP prototype with lots of ugly scriptlets
looked something like this:

--
 New User:   Profile [Adminstrator]  |Submit|

Existing Users:
Delete? Name:   Profile:
  [ ]   User1   [User]
  [ ]   User2   [Administrator]
  [ ]   User3   [Owner]

[Submit]
---

The "[ ]" part below "Delete?" is supposed to be a checkbox,
That "Profile" Stuff is a .
The number of users is variable, of course.

So, what's the best practice for this kind of issue?
As far as I could gather from RTFM & RTFML, I could
model the lines as a Collection and just 
over them. That is, if I'd be using 1.1...

I've got it working, but this involves scriptlets and
poking around in the request, just as my initial code
did. Sigh...

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RE: Form action based on bean presence

[Jennings, Christofer J.]

Thanks much.

-Original Message-
From: Bartley, Chris P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:48 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Form action based on bean presence


Although i prefer Craig's approach of letting a common action decide what to
do, yet another alternative is something like this (which i haven't tested,
but should work assuming i didn't screw up the syntax):


   


   


...



   ...



That way, you don't have to duplicate the entire form.

chris

> -Original Message-
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Form action based on bean presence
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jennings, Christofer J. wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:18:59 -0700
> > From: "Jennings, Christofer J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Form action based on bean presence
> >
> > I'd like to set a form's action based on the presence of an 
> bean. The code
> > below fails during compile at the first  
> tag, saying that it
> > is a mismatch.
> >
> >  start snip ---
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > ...
> >
> > 
> >  stop snip 
> >
> > My gut feeling is that I would have to nest the whole form 
> block in each
> > logic block to make this work. ... Right or wrong?
> >
> 
> Yep ... your approach above violates the tag nesting 
> constraints of markup
> language like HTML and XML.
> 
> > I really don't want to nest the form like that because it 
> would make too
> > much code duplication. For the time being I've set the form 
> to default to
> > one option then switch it if needed in a JavaScript 
> function. That works but
> > seems ugly. Is there a better option?
> >
> 
> Two other approaches:
> 
> * Use JavaScript to change the destination on the client side
> 
> * Submit the form to a common Action and let *it* decide what to do.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > boz
> >
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
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Re: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries

[Eddie Bush]

LOL - pretty much =)

- Original Message -
From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries


>
> Mark N. - "You suck!
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark G. - "No, you suck!"
> Mark N. - "No, you suck!"
>
>
> JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:43 AM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> >
> >
> > I offered to send you the source, asshole.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:42 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> >
> >
> > What is really sad about this kind of thread is that once Mark Galbreath
> > jumps in and starts sniping, no one else is willing to come forward and
> > present any kind of resonable answer for fear of getting involved in the
> > grade school level idiocy that results.
> >
> > One person was kind enough to resond with a helpful suggestion to my
> > original posting. I replied directly to him and thanked him for
> > his effort.
> >
> > mark
> >
> >
> > >From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:34:29 -0400
> > >
> > >;-)  It's Friday!
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:33 AM
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > >Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > >
> > >
> > >Oh SHI#!!!  Here we go.
> > >
> > >JM
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mark Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:28 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have observed that you frequently post messages complaining
> > > > about working
> > > > long hours, working weekends, etc. I can't help but wonder if
> > > > you'd be able
> > > > to complete your work during a normal work week if you focused
> > > > half of the
> > > > energy you put into "humorous" replies and posting to this
> > list on doing
> > > > your job.
> > > >
> > > > If you feel like sharing your taglib I'd be happy to look at
> > it. But I'd
> > > > hate to put you out when recess is happening and you want to start
an
> > > > electronic spit wad fight.
> > > >
> > > > mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > > > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:19:58 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >I wrote my own. If you want a copy of the source, send me a
> > message at
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I'm pretty busy right now (trying to start a
> > >flame
> > > > >war), but I can get it to you by tomorrow morning at the latest.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > >From: Mark Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:14 AM
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey, that's great.
> > > > >
> > > > >mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:58:10 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Yes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > > >From: Mark Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:43 AM
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering if anyone on the list had discovered a good
taglib
> > >for
> > > > > >formatting social security numbers, and or a tag for
> > telephone number
> > > > > >formatting (US).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >TIA
> > > > > >Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > >_
> > > > > >MSN Photos i

Re: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries

[Eddie Bush]

LMAO - you gotta be careful of Mark G on Friday ... and Saturday through
Thursday I would imagine too =)

... very playful - often taken wrong - but a good guy (I think).

- Original Message -
From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries


> ;-)
>
> I wrote my own. If you want a copy of the source, send me a message at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I'm pretty busy right now (trying to start a flame
> war), but I can get it to you by tomorrow morning at the latest.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
>
>
> Hey, that's great.
>
> mark
>
>
> >From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:58:10 -0400
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Mark Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:43 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: SSN and/or Telephone Tag Libraries
> >
> >
> >I was wondering if anyone on the list had discovered a good taglib for
> >formatting social security numbers, and or a tag for telephone number
> >formatting (US).
> >
> >TIA
> >Mark
> >
> >_
> >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> >
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RE: TGIF

[Chappell, Simon P]

My favourite term that I use is:

ADMINISTRIVIA

All the stupid time wasting stuff that you get asked to do because someone thinks that 
it's trendy or their management handbook says that you should do it.

Simon

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>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:40 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: TGIF
>
>
>NEW WORDS FOR 2002 -
>Essential additions for the workplace vocabulary:
>
>BLAMESTORMING: Sitting around in a group, discussing
>why a deadline was missed or a project failed and who
>was responsible.
>
>SEAGULL MANAGER: A manager who flies in, makes a lot
>of noise, craps on everything, then leaves.
>
>ASSMOSIS:  The process by which some people seem to
>absorb success and advancement by kissing up to the
>boss rather than working hard.
>
>SALMON DAY: The experience of spending an entire day
>swimming upstream only to get screwed and die in the
>end.
>
>CUBE FARM: An office filled with cubicles.
>
>PRARIE DOGGING: When someone yells or drops something
>loudly in a cube farm, and peoples' heads pop up over
>the walls to see what's going on.
>
>MOUSE POTATO: The on-line, wired generation's answer
>to the couch potato.
>
>SITCOMS:  Single Income, Two Children, Oppressive
>Mortgage.  What yuppies turn into when they have
>children and one of them stops working to stay home
>with the kids.
>
>STRESS PUPPY: A person who seems to thrive on being
>stressed out and whiny.
>
>SWIPEOUT:  An ATM or credit card that has been
>rendered useless because the magnetic strip is worn
>away from extensive use.
>
>XEROX SUBSIDY: Euphemism for swiping free photocopies
>from ones workplace.
>
>IRRITAINMENT: Entertainment and media spectacles that
>are annoying but you find yourself unable to stop
>watching them.  The O. J. trials were a prime example.
>
>PERCUSSIVE MAINTENANCE: The fine art of whacking the
>shit out of an electronic device to get it to work
>again.
>
>ADMINSPHERE:  The rarefied organizational layers
>beginning just above the rank and file.  Decisions
>that fall from the adminsphere are often profoundly
>inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were
>designed to solve.
>
>404:  Someone who's clueless.  From the WorldWideWeb
>error message "404 Not Found", meaning that the
>requested document could not be located.
>
>GENERICA:  Features of the American landscape that are
>exactly the same no matter where one is, such as fast
>food joints, strip malls and subdivisions.
>
>OHNOSECOND:  That minuscule fraction of time in which
>you realize that you've just made a BIG mistake.
>
>WOOFYS:  Well Off Older Folks.
>
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RE: servlet-mapping and url-pattern

[Galpin, Charles]

> -Original Message-
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Actually, there is a standard action that would let you simulate this:
> 
>  type="org.apache.struts.actions.ForwardAction"
> parameters="/path/to/tiles/servlet"/>
> 
> Now, a request to "/tiles.do" (if you're using extension mapping for the
> controller servlet) will get forwarded to your servlet.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Laird
> >
> 
> Craig

Maybe I don't understand, but this isn't any better than just having a
servlet mapping to my current servlet (with no involvement from struts). The
servlet method works fine. What I want to do is convert the servlet to an
action to take advantage of other features we have built into our
ActionServlet and Action class heirarchies.

Thanks
charles

Re: [Off Topic] POI Logo Contest

[Eddie Bush]

Good =)  Glad I could be of assistance ;-)

- Original Message -
From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Off Topic] POI Logo Contest


> Right - and the project documentation on the main page is an absolute
riot.
> My entire dev team was hysterical this morning after I forwarded your
post.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:27 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Off Topic] POI Logo Contest
>
>
> Yeah - some are really neat ;)  I got a kick out of it because the main
> pages little blurb about the contest says how one guy probably won't vote
> for the log if it doesn't have some sort of tiki god on it.  ... and
several
> of them acheived that very well =)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "JAVA_DEV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [Off Topic] POI Logo Contest
>
>
> > Wow! - some pretty good graphic artists!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:48 PM
> >
> > LOL - check it out! =)
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/news/logocontest.html
> >
> > (Hey - it's nearly Friday!)
> >
> > Eddie
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Re: How to productively use Netbeans and Struts?

[James Holmes]

JDOM Beta 8 is out and I am looking into using it.  I
believe it will fix some of the problems, but not all.

I'm also looking into alternatives to JDOM.

-james
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http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

--- Russell Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hey James,
> 
> JDOM Beta 8 is out, does it fix the pretty print
> problem? Your app is 
> great, but I'm afraid to touch existing .config
> files with it...
> 
> -Russ
> 
> 
> 
> James Holmes wrote:
> 
> >As an FYI...
> >
> >I'm working with some folks from Sun as we speak to
> >create more Struts specific functionality inside of
> >NetBeans/Forte.
> >
> >Some things in the works are:
> >+ Struts tag library support for JSP editor
> >+ better integration of Struts Console into
> NetBeans
> >+ etc.
> >
> >Feel free to drop me a line directly or via this
> >thread with other ideas you may have to help making
> >Struts development easier with NetBeans/Forte.
> >
> >-james
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/
> >
> >
> >--- Alex Colic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have taken everyone's advice and have got
> Netbeans
> >>working with the
> >>example struts application. I have used JBuilder
> for
> >>the last couple of
> >>years so I have a flow when I am writing an
> >>application. Can someone give me
> >>an example of how to use Netbeans productively
> when
> >>creating a struts
> >>application.
> >>
> >>So far I have been able to mount the struts.jar
> open
> >>the struts-example file
> >>and debug within Netbeans using the built in
> tomcat
> >>3. Is this the best way
> >>to write software using Netbeans?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Alex
> >>
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RE: Form action based on bean presence

[Bartley, Chris P]

Although i prefer Craig's approach of letting a common action decide what to
do, yet another alternative is something like this (which i haven't tested,
but should work assuming i didn't screw up the syntax):


   


   


...



   ...



That way, you don't have to duplicate the entire form.

chris

> -Original Message-
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Form action based on bean presence
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jennings, Christofer J. wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:18:59 -0700
> > From: "Jennings, Christofer J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Form action based on bean presence
> >
> > I'd like to set a form's action based on the presence of an 
> bean. The code
> > below fails during compile at the first  
> tag, saying that it
> > is a mismatch.
> >
> >  start snip ---
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > ...
> >
> > 
> >  stop snip 
> >
> > My gut feeling is that I would have to nest the whole form 
> block in each
> > logic block to make this work. ... Right or wrong?
> >
> 
> Yep ... your approach above violates the tag nesting 
> constraints of markup
> language like HTML and XML.
> 
> > I really don't want to nest the form like that because it 
> would make too
> > much code duplication. For the time being I've set the form 
> to default to
> > one option then switch it if needed in a JavaScript 
> function. That works but
> > seems ugly. Is there a better option?
> >
> 
> Two other approaches:
> 
> * Use JavaScript to change the destination on the client side
> 
> * Submit the form to a common Action and let *it* decide what to do.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > boz
> >
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
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TGIF

[SUPRIYA MISRA]

NEW WORDS FOR 2002 –
Essential additions for the workplace vocabulary:

BLAMESTORMING: Sitting around in a group, discussing
why a deadline was missed or a project failed and who
was responsible.

SEAGULL MANAGER: A manager who flies in, makes a lot
of noise, craps on everything, then leaves.

ASSMOSIS:  The process by which some people seem to
absorb success and advancement by kissing up to the
boss rather than working hard.

SALMON DAY: The experience of spending an entire day
swimming upstream only to get screwed and die in the
end.

CUBE FARM: An office filled with cubicles.

PRARIE DOGGING: When someone yells or drops something
loudly in a cube farm, and peoples’ heads pop up over
the walls to see what's going on.

MOUSE POTATO: The on-line, wired generation’s answer
to the couch potato.

SITCOMS:  Single Income, Two Children, Oppressive
Mortgage.  What yuppies turn into when they have
children and one of them stops working to stay home
with the kids.

STRESS PUPPY: A person who seems to thrive on being
stressed out and whiny.

SWIPEOUT:  An ATM or credit card that has been
rendered useless because the magnetic strip is worn
away from extensive use.

XEROX SUBSIDY: Euphemism for swiping free photocopies
from ones workplace.

IRRITAINMENT: Entertainment and media spectacles that
are annoying but you find yourself unable to stop
watching them.  The O. J. trials were a prime example.

PERCUSSIVE MAINTENANCE: The fine art of whacking the
shit out of an electronic device to get it to work
again.

ADMINSPHERE:  The rarefied organizational layers
beginning just above the rank and file.  Decisions
that fall from the adminsphere are often profoundly
inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were
designed to solve.

404:  Someone who's clueless.  From the WorldWideWeb
error message “404 Not Found”, meaning that the
requested document could not be located.

GENERICA:  Features of the American landscape that are
exactly the same no matter where one is, such as fast
food joints, strip malls and subdivisions.

OHNOSECOND:  That minuscule fraction of time in which
you realize that you've just made a BIG mistake.

WOOFYS:  Well Off Older Folks.



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