Re: Does a degree matter?
a read actuall a nice book called Underworld Survival Guide he got's some nice tip : FREE EDUCATION Usually when you ask somebody in college why they are there, they'll tell you it's to get an education. The truth of it is, they are there to get the degree so that they can get ahead in the rat race. Too many college radicals are two-timing punks. The only reason you should be in college is to destroy it. If there is stuff that you want to learn though, there is a way to get a college education absolutely free. Simply send away for the schedule of courses at the college of your choice. Make up the schedule you want and audit the classes. In smaller classes this might be a problem, but even then, if, the teacher is worth anything at all, he'll let you stay. In large classes, no one will ever object.If you need books for a course, write to the publisher claiming you are a lecturer at some school and considering using their book in your course. They will always send you free books.There are Free Universities springing up all over our new Nation. Anybody can teach any course. People sign up for the courses and sometimes pay a token registration fee. This money is used to publish a catalogue and pay the rent. If you're on welfare you don't have to pay. You can take as many or as few courses as you want. Classes are held everywhere: in the instructor's house, in the park, on the beach, at one of the student's houses or in liberated buildings. Free Universities offer courses ranging from Astrology to the Use of Firearms. The teaching is usually of excellent quality and you'll learn in a community-type atmosphere. LIST OF FREE UNIVERSITIES ¥ Alternative University-69 W. 14th St., New York, NY 10011 (catalogue on request) ¥ Baltimore Free U-c/o Harry, 233 E. 25th St., Baltimore, Maryland 21218 ¥ Berkeley Free U-1703 Grove St., Berkeley, California 94709 ¥ Bowling Green Free U-c/o Student Council, University of Bowling Green, Bowling Green Ohio 43402 ¥ Colorado State Free U-Box 12-Fraisen, Colorado State College, Greeley, Colorado 80631 ¥ Detroit Area Free U-Student Union, 4001 W. McNichols Rd., Detroit, Michigan 48221 ¥ Detroit Area Free U-343 University Center, Wayne State University, Detroit, Mich. ¥ Georgetown Free U-Loyola Bldg., 28, Georgetown University Washington D.C. 20007 ¥ Golden Gate Free U-2120 Market St., Rm. 206, San Francisco, California 94114 ¥ Heliotrope-2201 Filbert, San Francisco, California 94118 ¥ Illinois Free U-298A Illini Union, University of Illinois, Champaign, Illinois 61820 ¥ Kansas Free U-107 W. 7th St., Lawrence, Kansas 66044 ¥ Knox College Free U-Galesbury, Illinois 60401 ¥ Madison Free U-c/o P. Carroll, 1205 Shorewood Blvd., Madison, Wisconsin 53705 ¥ Metropolitan State Free U-Associated Students, 1345 Banrock St., Denver, Colorado 80204 ¥ Michigan State Free U-Associated Students, Student Service Bldg., Michigan State College, East Lansing, Michigan 48823 ¥ Mid-Peninsula Free U-1060 El Camino Real, Menlo Park, California 94015 ¥ Minnesota Free U-1817 S. 3rd St., Minneapolis, Minnesota 55404 ¥ Monterey Peninsula Free U-2120 Etna Place, Monterey, California New Free U-Box ALL 303, Santa Barbara, California 93107 ¥ Northwest Free U-Box 1255, Bellingham, Washington 98225 ¥ Ohio-Wesleyan Free U-Box 47-Welsh Hall, Ohio Wesleyan University, Delevan, Ohio 43015 ¥ Pittsburgh Free U-4401 Fifth Ave., Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15213Rutgers Free U-Rutgers College, Student Center, 1 Lincoln Ave., Newark, NJ 07102 ¥ St. Louis Free U-c/o Student Congress, 3rd floor BMC, St. Louis University, St. Louis,Missouri 63103 ¥ San Luis Obispo Free U-Box 1305, San Luis Obispo, California 94301 ¥ Santa Cruz Free U-604 River St., Santa Cruz, California 95060 ¥ Seattle Free U-4144¸ University Way NE, Seattle, Washington 98105 ¥ Southern Illinois Free U-Carbondale, Illinois 62901 ¥ Valley Free U-2045 N. Wishon Ave., Fresno, California 93704 ¥ Washington Area Free U-5519 Prospect Place, Chevy Chase, Maryland 20015 and 1854 Park Rd. NW, Washington, D.C. 20010 ¥ Wayne-Locke Free U-Student Congress, University of Texas, Arlington, Texas 76010 And a complete list of experimental schools, free universities, free schools, can be obtained by sending one dollar to ALTERNATIVES! 1526 Gravenstein Highway N., Sebastopol, California 97452, and requesting the Directory of Free Schools. - Original Message - From: Tim Shadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Does a degree matter? Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Any specific technology you learn in your first year is going to be totally obsolete by the time you graduate from the program anyway,
Re: Upgrade from struts 1.0
Oh another swiss guy ;) I'm been thinking I was the only swiss guy around here. Cheers. -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:09 PM Subject: Upgrade from struts 1.0 I'm thinking to upgrade from Struts 1.0 (maybe integrating Tiles). Do anybody have a to-do-list or something similar to convert the old struts-config.xml into the new DTD to let me have some idea of the effort before to start? Angelo Andreetto Analyst programmer / Application Products Boss Lab SA, via Cantonale, CH - 6934 Bioggio tel. +41 (0)91 612 26 65 - fax +41 (0)91 612 27 72 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bosslab.com IMPORTANT: This e-mail transmission is intended for the named addressee(s) only. Its contents are private, confidential and protected from disclosure and should not be read, copied or disclosed by any other person. If you are not the intended recipient, we kindly ask you to notify the sender immediately by telephone (+41-91-612 26 11), to redirect the message to the account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to delete this e-mail. E-mail transmissions may be intercepted, altered or read by unauthorized persons and may contain viruses. Therefore, it is recommended that you use regular mail or courier services for any information intended to be confidential. However, by sending us messages through e-mail, you authorize and instruct us to correspond by e-mail in the relevant matter. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter?
You had start when the market was pretty good. I've some friend who have finish their degree last year -september-(one 29, one 40 and another one 28) but they still didn't catch any job. I finish my degree this year and I already have receive proposition from three compagnies. I think they are *to old* for most of the compagnies rigth now to employ them as junior developper. -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Susan Bradeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Yep, Becky is right ... you are not alone. I am two years older than you Rick, and I just got into software development 4 1/2 years ago. I came from a mechanical design background (with a BS in Civil Engineering). I get great support from my fellow developers here, but more often than not I feel very much behind the 8-ball. Susan Bradeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/31/2003 08:03:22 AM Becky Norum wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 23:44, Rick Reumann wrote: Does anyone else ever wake up going Man, I feel overwhelmed. Too much too learn, not enough time. I started this computer stuff rather late in life and find it very difficult trying to pick out what to try concentrate my learning in. Bottom line is I have to put food on the table for the family so I have to concentrate in skill sets that are valuable (and not just fun:). I started this computer stuff rather late in life (4 years ago and I'm 33 now) and constantly wonder What should I concentrate on learning next? When you spend too much time learning one area you fall behind in another. That's what I find so amazing about some of these job applications- is they put down tons of skill sets and, sure there might be a few that truly 'know' all of the skill sets listed, but rarely have I come across that many people that can honestly say they are proficient in all of them. Then it's also the Catch-22 of if you diverse too much you end up being ok at a lot of stuff but not really good at any one skill. It seems like in this market it's best to just concentrate on being very good at a few skill sets vs trying to learn everything, but I could be totally wrong there. All and all it's just very frustrating:) Ehhh I'm just venting... just ignore me. Wish I could just start over and be a farmer in some little rural ho-dunk town where my greatest concerns would be whether God was going to provide enough rain for the crops. Rick, I often feel the way you do. I didn't get into programming until I was 24. (28 now..). Although I don't have children of my own, I also greatly value my time with my nephew, family and friends, and won't give that up to cram more knowledge into my head. It's also important to me to spend time exercising and pursuing non-computer hobbies. I've accepted that I can't compete with the 16-year old hacker who lives for his/her computer. Heck, my little (23-yo) brother has started being the one I ask about many things, not the other way around. ;) You've got to keep your strengths in mind in order to stay positive. What were you doing those years before you started working with computers? I studied Biochemistry and worked a diverse range of jobs. What are your interests outside of computers? If you end up doing consulting, relating to clients is very important. A close friend of mine a year older than you works as a specialized O/S customer support professional. She started programming, etc. when she was 29. She took a position that allows her to use her technical degree yet emphasizes her people skills. Consistently, she receives very positive feedback from Fortune 500 companies, feedback that some of her more techie coworkers do not, because they don't share her ability to talk to individuals less technically savvy than themselves. I guess all I'm saying is that you're not alone, and don't get discouraged. I can speak only for myself, but I have a lot of those moments. =) -- Becky Norum Database Administrator Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS) Northeastern University http://www.censsis.neu.edu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter?
lol what's about fortran 2000 ;))) http://www.j3-fortran.org/ -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Jeff Kyser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Never laugh! I just finished a project integrating a legacy app written in FORTRAN into the back end of a Struts-fronted webapp. Maybe those FORTRAN guys are smarter than we think - we've all beaten our heads against the wall learning 6 different languages and porting all our stuff, and they are still using libraries they wrote 20 years ago. LOL, -jeff On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Simon Kelly wrote: Write your own cheques if you know FORTRAN!! - Original Message - From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Yep. Once over 30 in IT your far too old to start already as far as most employers are concerned. I gather that once over 35 you better have moved to some kind of managerial position already if you dont want it to be your last gig... (Disregard above if you know COBOL) ;-) -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 March 2003 22:14 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? You had start when the market was pretty good. I've some friend who have finish their degree last year -september-(one 29, one 40 and another one 28) but they still didn't catch any job. I finish my degree this year and I already have receive proposition from three compagnies. I think they are *to old* for most of the compagnies rigth now to employ them as junior developper. -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Susan Bradeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Yep, Becky is right ... you are not alone. I am two years older than you Rick, and I just got into software development 4 1/2 years ago. I came from a mechanical design background (with a BS in Civil Engineering). I get great support from my fellow developers here, but more often than not I feel very much behind the 8-ball. Susan Bradeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/31/2003 08:03:22 AM Becky Norum wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 23:44, Rick Reumann wrote: Does anyone else ever wake up going Man, I feel overwhelmed. Too much too learn, not enough time. I started this computer stuff rather late in life and find it very difficult trying to pick out what to try concentrate my learning in. Bottom line is I have to put food on the table for the family so I have to concentrate in skill sets that are valuable (and not just fun:). I started this computer stuff rather late in life (4 years ago and I'm 33 now) and constantly wonder What should I concentrate on learning next? When you spend too much time learning one area you fall behind in another. That's what I find so amazing about some of these job applications- is they put down tons of skill sets and, sure there might be a few that truly 'know' all of the skill sets listed, but rarely have I come across that many people that can honestly say they are proficient in all of them. Then it's also the Catch-22 of if you diverse too much you end up being ok at a lot of stuff but not really good at any one skill. It seems like in this market it's best to just concentrate on being very good at a few skill sets vs trying to learn everything, but I could be totally wrong there. All and all it's just very frustrating:) Ehhh I'm just venting... just ignore me. Wish I could just start over and be a farmer in some little rural ho-dunk town where my greatest concerns would be whether God was going to provide enough rain for the crops. Rick, I often feel the way you do. I didn't get into programming until I was 24. (28 now..). Although I don't have children of my own, I also greatly value my time with my nephew, family and friends, and won't give that up to cram more knowledge into my head. It's also important to me to spend time exercising and pursuing non-computer hobbies. I've accepted that I can't compete with the 16-year old hacker who lives for his/her computer. Heck, my little (23-yo) brother has started being the one I ask about many things, not the other way around. ;) You've got to keep your strengths in mind in order to stay positive. What were you doing those years before you started working with computers? I studied Biochemistry and worked a diverse range of jobs. What
Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter?
looks good : Fortran 2000 is an upwardly-compatible extension of the current Fortran standard, Fortran 95, adding, among other things, support for exception handling, object-oriented programming, and improved interoperability with the C language. Why not implement a framework like struts for fortran 2000 ? Ok I shut up... lool -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Simon Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Please!! No bad language on this site!! ;-) - Original Message - From: Alexandre Jaquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? lol what's about fortran 2000 ;))) http://www.j3-fortran.org/ -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Jeff Kyser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Never laugh! I just finished a project integrating a legacy app written in FORTRAN into the back end of a Struts-fronted webapp. Maybe those FORTRAN guys are smarter than we think - we've all beaten our heads against the wall learning 6 different languages and porting all our stuff, and they are still using libraries they wrote 20 years ago. LOL, -jeff On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Simon Kelly wrote: Write your own cheques if you know FORTRAN!! - Original Message - From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Yep. Once over 30 in IT your far too old to start already as far as most employers are concerned. I gather that once over 35 you better have moved to some kind of managerial position already if you dont want it to be your last gig... (Disregard above if you know COBOL) ;-) -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 March 2003 22:14 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? You had start when the market was pretty good. I've some friend who have finish their degree last year -september-(one 29, one 40 and another one 28) but they still didn't catch any job. I finish my degree this year and I already have receive proposition from three compagnies. I think they are *to old* for most of the compagnies rigth now to employ them as junior developper. -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Susan Bradeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? Yep, Becky is right ... you are not alone. I am two years older than you Rick, and I just got into software development 4 1/2 years ago. I came from a mechanical design background (with a BS in Civil Engineering). I get great support from my fellow developers here, but more often than not I feel very much behind the 8-ball. Susan Bradeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/31/2003 08:03:22 AM Becky Norum wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 23:44, Rick Reumann wrote: Does anyone else ever wake up going Man, I feel overwhelmed. Too much too learn, not enough time. I started this computer stuff rather late in life and find it very difficult trying to pick out what to try concentrate my learning in. Bottom line is I have to put food on the table for the family so I have to concentrate in skill sets that are valuable (and not just fun:). I started this computer stuff rather late in life (4 years ago and I'm 33 now) and constantly wonder What should I concentrate on learning next? When you spend too much time learning one area you fall behind in another. That's what I find so amazing about some of these job applications- is they put down tons of skill sets and, sure there might be a few that truly 'know' all of the skill sets listed, but rarely have I come across that many people that can honestly say they are proficient in all of them. Then it's also the Catch-22 of if you diverse too much you end up being ok at a lot of stuff but not really good at any one skill. It seems like in this market it's best to just concentrate on being very good at a few skill sets vs trying to learn everything, but I could
Re: Does a degree matter?
that's exactly the same behaviour in switzerland if you do university (only theory and only a few pratic) the degree I do is a special one with less theory and more pratic ( the second year we have to do 5 projects : -1 to integrate oriented object programming I had choose accessing accross network computer ressource. (I used Eiffel) -1 to integrate database programming I had choose to implement a framework for security management, for any database driven application. (I used Kylix and Postresql) -1 for mathematical use (vectorial,matricial math for 2d programming) (java and my own math lib) -1 for learning working in group (I only have done data modeling) -1 for diploma (I choose an information system to manage a school,student,prof,activity etc..) (java /struts/swing) I hate theory I like pratic ;) -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: RE: Does a degree matter? Hi all, Just my two cents. Craig's viewpoint is good for american-like degrees. But there are many different education systems all over the world. For example, in my country (Brazil), Comp Sci bachelor's degree from public universities don't teach nothing more than old theory. We study Automata theory, Graph theory, Calculus, Algebra, Physics, Statistics and Algorithms as course basis and we have specialized disciplines where we study more specific theory like: DataBases theory, Operating Systems theory, Programming Language theory, Compilers theory, Data transmission, Computer Networks, Computer Networks Management, Artificial Intelligence, Functional programming, Logic programming, Object-Oriented programming, Object-Oriented analysis, Project management, etc. And at my university (University of Brasilia) we have to take some optional (not so much) courses to get our degree. They are: Management, Accounting, Economics, Sports, Political science, Philosophy, English, Operational research, Law science etc. Our professors don't teach programming languages like Java, C, Pascal, Lisp, Prolog, FORTRAN. They delegate this task to students. I think it is a hard course but it's worth it. Best regards, Daniel. --- apachep2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I am not intended to offend any one subscribed to this list. I just can't be more agreed with Craig's view. BTW, I was actually forwarding this email to my boss but accidentally click the Reply. -Original Message- From: apachep2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 31, 2003 9:57 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Does a degree matter? This guy always has a different but brighter/cleverer view than others. No wonder why he is leading the development of many open source projects. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 30, 2003 12:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Does a degree matter? On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Arron Bates wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:36:21 -0600 From: Arron Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does a degree matter? Brandon, If you can do the deed (which it sounds like you can), I would hazard offering my opinion in thinking that it wouldn't be the best use of your time. By education I'm a graphic designer, not a computer scientist. First job was web design, programmer ever since. Results... I've only had two places not take me on because it's not a computer degree. Two interviews of hundreds. My personal experience (both for myself and for folks I have hired over the years) mirrors this -- indeed, my personal opinion is that a Comp Sci degree is worth less (to me as an employer) than a degree in some field that is more closely associated with the general needs of potential employers. Why? A couple of reasons: * Many folks who go for Comp Sci degrees obsess over learning the particular technologies being taught in their classes, at the expense of courses to improve your general thinking skills. Any specific technology you learn in your first year is going to be totally obsolete by the time you graduate from the program anyway, so why bother? The important skill to employers (at least from my viewpoint) is that you've learned how to quickly adapt your existing skills to new technologies as they become available. Also, the fundamentals of good architecture and design practices tend to change much more slowly than the favorite language de jour -- so if you decide to go for Comp Sci, focus on fundamentals like O-O, design patterns, and so on. * Many folks who go for Comp Sci degrees are so focused
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
why not use the microsoft integrated one ? -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Hohlen, John C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts-User (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form still gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. I thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills are lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. Thanks, JOHN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FRIDAY]Re: Just let me be the first to say...
I have a stock of inspiration near me how much do you want , and with wich flavor ? ananas, apple, chery ? lol - Original Message - From: Simon Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [FRIDAY]Re: Just let me be the first to say... Ah yes ... that voodoo that you do . Worst joke I could come up with on 14 cups of coffee and two apples. I need more inspiration ... - Original Message - From: Becky Norum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FRIDAY]Re: Just let me be the first to say... On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 05:50, Simon Kelly wrote: Was just lookin for something that was close to a top-hat. I get bored easily ;-) and I don't have my teddy bear to play with :-( awww.. I have a voodoo doll at my desk that keeps me entertained. Great for getting out all sorts of frustrations.. :D Becky - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate?
or maybe he will get more job's than the others ... less the rathing he's more client will came ... I'm a student but I take lots of contracts from clients who believe compagnies offer service so expensive for the same job. That's why I'm so busy lol. -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Sterin, Ilya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Andrew Hill ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Struts Users Mailing List ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? 30*3000 is more than your whole entire career earnings? Where are you from? India? Russia? In US that's an average developer contract salary, and $30/hour is a charge that most contractors will laugh at here. Ilya -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill To: Struts Users Mailing List Sent: 3/27/03 1:32 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? These are USD per HOUR? Crikey! You could retire after a couple of years on that! Nah that cant be right. I did a bit under 3000 hours last year, multiply by 30 and convert to local currency adds up to more than Ive earned in my whole working life (4+ years). A lot more... Are those fair dinkum rates or are you just having us on? Five weeks holiday??? OT pay??? Yeh. Thought so. Its a joke. hehe. You had me going there mate! -Original Message- From: Simon Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 16:08 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? These are some going full time rates for a London based e-learning company, for an average of 1880 hrs worked in one year (Five weeks holiday not included in the figures, but you'd get the same rate). The company pays OT on projects that need it, but actually limit the number of hours in a week that an employee can be in the office. (Something about a work/life balance, whatver than means :-) All in US dollars (converted from blighty pounds) Grade one (Whipping boy) - 30$ Grade two (Code monkey) - 40$ Grade three (Designer) - 55$ Grade four (Architect) - 90$ Grade five (Senior Architect) - 150$ These don't include the options and bonuses (last xmas bonus ranged from 500$ to 6000$) and the OT isn't in there (Usually 1.5*hourly week-day/sat -- 2*hourly sun). Contractor have to pay all the insurance and stuff, so I'd dap about 22-40% on top of each of these + a little extra if your gonna have to live in an expensive part of town. NOTE to the lawer. It only becomes illegal if it can be proven that we have set a level of pay *and* have all agreed to follow this level. If you've been on here long enough, you'd know *noone* ever agrees about anything!! =]:0) Good luck with the job, I hear California is nice this time of year!! Cheers Simon - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:08 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Contract Work: Going Rate? I hope you know that my prior response that the lawyer should be fired was not aimed at you, Tammy. I appreciate your assistance. I think it is really funny, however, that a lawyer would actually associate what we are doing with antitrust behavior. Heck, I feel bigger and better now. LOL! That lawyer needs to get the tune to match the lyrics. At 08:49 PM 3/26/03 -0800, Tammy Cravit wrote: general landscape well (Tomcat, Struts, Ant, etc., etc., with Linux, scripting, various databases, etc.). What would a reasonable request be? Thanks. First of all, I would caution about asking questions like this on a mailing list, as the discussion of hourly rates and stuff came up on another list I belong to and the moderators there obtained an opinion from a lawyer that discussing pricing in terms of specific dollar amounts in a group like this could be deemed price-fixing by the courts, which is illegal. That having been said, one common rule of thumb seems to be to divide your annual salary as an employee by 1000, and using that as a starting point for figuring out your hourly rate. Obviously you'd need to adjust that for your local market, but that's not a bad starting point. Tammy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LEGAL NOTICE This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information
Re: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot forward after response hasbeen committed
what's your scope definition ? (in the struts-conf) -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Becky Norum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:47 AM Subject: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot forward after response hasbeen committed Does anyone know what the following exception means? javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot forward after response has been committed It seemed to be related to something in this area of code: // ModuleConfig config = (ModuleConfig) pageContext.getRequest() // .getAttribute(org.apache.struts.Globals.MODULE_KEY); // try { // pageContext.forward(config.getPrefix() + page); // } catch (Exception e) { // Thanks! Becky - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts and Swing Client
yeah it's song like very strange... what's I do is to share logic between struts and swing but not with the web server... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Struts and Swing Client Hi, If you are using HTTP with Swing client, what protocol u are planning to use?Otherwise, like u said, how can u retrieve the Data on the server? I think U need to define a protocol for object transfer... Have a look at SOAP... And basically I think the idea of having a swing client for a Struts layer seems a bit difficult to digest for me... Can you not access the model layer directly from The swing client?But then all the flow control logic will have to be implemented... Any ideas folks?? regards, Shirish -Original Message- From: Mondkar,Paresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:59 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Struts and Swing Client Hi, We are developing an application with Swings as the client. We are going to talk to the server using HTTP where struts is implemented. Client Code Hashtable hash = new Hashtable(); hash.put(name, kiran); hash.put(password, justdoit); OutputStream outputStream = conn.getOutputStream() ; ObjectOutputStream objectOutputStream = new ObjectOutputStream(outputStream); objectOutputStream.writeObject(hash); We are not sure how to retrieve this object at the server side as when we put this object into the request using ObjectOutputStream it does not have any id. Also we are not sure how to return the control back to the client. return (aMapping.findForward(success)); action path=/test type=test.TestAction forward name=success path=???/ /action How do we map it in struts-config.xml file Thanx Regds, Paresh. Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from Syntel, Inc. which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all copies. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project
for my project I've done from 29 february till now : - 35 view in swing - 12 struts view ~ 100 class -11 500 lines of code -done a complete db schema 28 tables -8 free days -all the stuff as been tested must be finish on 5 may : + 10 views in swing + 6 view with struts + finish all the architecture doc But 5 month of analysis before. I'm not sure if I'm slow for a student ? -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Chappell, Simon P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project Hmmm. I'll see what I can scrounge up from the QA reject bin. -Original Message- From: Nelson, Laird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:57 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Different section of IS. The area that I'm in is responsible for distribution operations, so we'll schedule, pick, pack and ship your customised LE suit to you, but the Internet group will actually take your order. :-) So the trick is to talk directly to you guys, and then my suit is free, right? BTW, I take a 39R. Cheers, Laird - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FRIDAY] Microsoft
Borland as the first compagny who buy an .NET licence. They will release Sidewinder for Windows and Linux. .. Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Justin F. Knotzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Microsoft On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:35:11PM -0500, Ted Husted wrote: I think you're missing my point that the open source Java developer's response to .NET is to port our favorite tools from Java to C#. There is one slight problem with the attempt to Open Source .NET: Microsoft recently patented all of the .NET code: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/29283.html This could potentially put a huge monkey wrench in any plans to Open Source .NET J. -- Justin F. Knotzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.shampoo.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FRIDAY] Microsoft
I've some try with Open Source implementation like Mono and Rotor but what's the only gift is the C# implementation. Mono miss so much for a reall cross plateform, ado.net, asp.net. They try to release a GTK# but it's sucks so much in comparaison with WinForm... -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Justin F. Knotzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Microsoft On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:35:11PM -0500, Ted Husted wrote: I think you're missing my point that the open source Java developer's response to .NET is to port our favorite tools from Java to C#. There is one slight problem with the attempt to Open Source .NET: Microsoft recently patented all of the .NET code: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/29283.html This could potentially put a huge monkey wrench in any plans to Open Source .NET J. -- Justin F. Knotzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.shampoo.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] Meeting in Paris this Saturday
rhaa I can't come I have to much work to come to Paris, but if one day you will move to Geneva let's announce it -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Cedric Dumoulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: [Ann] Meeting in Paris this Saturday Hi, For those interested to discuss with me about Struts and Tiles, I will be this Saturday 22 march in Paris at the bookstore Le Monde en 'tique' from 16h to 18h (www.lmet.fr). Cedric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Meeting in Paris this Saturday
LOL I found an picture of Mark ;) http://www.parentingpress.com/covers/angry.jpg - Original Message - From: Simon Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Meeting in Paris this Saturday Holly Flame Wars Batman!!! I think putting a stop to this thread right now would be a good idea. Cedric is offering some free qa to those IN France, no one is expecting everyone on the list to jump on a plane and rush over (Though that would be well funny) Mark is sarcastic. Deal with it, and don't take it with anything less than a ladle full of salt. Marks answers to struts questions have always been extremely helpful and well written, and he has earned the privilege to flame who he wishes (cause he usually mails an answer not long after). My ha'pennies worth. Simon PS Ron. Is that the best you could come up with!! - Original Message - From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Meeting in Paris this Saturday Who gives a shit if Cedric is going to be in a bookstore this Saturday? I was being sarcastic, not inflammatory, in the traditional hacker sense. Perhaps he will be dipping his freedom fries in freedom dressing sitting by the freedom doors before ordering freedom toast? And I've been helping people on this list since 1.0 beta, though got preoccupied for a couple of months on my last project. Don't like my posts? Can you spell f-i-l-t-e-r? Mark -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:52 AM Why do you always bait people with inflamatory OT posts? It would be interesting to compare the number of your helpful posts vs. OT. David From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Meeting in Paris this Saturday Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:09:53 -0500 Gee, and I was just looking for an excuse to go to FranceNOT. Mark -Original Message- From: Cedric Dumoulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:00 AM For those interested to discuss with me about Struts and Tiles, I will be this Saturday 22 march in Paris at the bookstore Le Monde en 'tique' from 16h to 18h (www.lmet.fr). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Out Of Memory
If you use -Xms256m you just will allow to use your whole memory. - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Java Out Of Memory Hi there, I know this isn't a Struts question, but I also know you're all extremely experienced Java dudes, so how can I prevent a Out Of Memory error when doing a Javac compile for ejbc, with a EntityRelationshipBean? Any help would be great! I'm compiling on a 256M machine and my command looks like this.. set PATH=C:\java\j2sdk1.4.1_01\bin;%PATH% set LIB=C:\java\working\invest\lib\ java -verbosegc -cp %LIB%weblogic.jar -Xms128m -Xmx256m weblogic.ejbc -compiler javac EntityRel1.jar EntityRel.jar Many Thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Out Of Memory
it's only for modify the ram size (by default 64 are allowed) - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: RE: Java Out Of Memory is -Xms256m only for available RAM, or can I increase my page file size and use that in the -X option aswell? -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:37 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory If you use -Xms256m you just will allow to use your whole memory. - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Java Out Of Memory Hi there, I know this isn't a Struts question, but I also know you're all extremely experienced Java dudes, so how can I prevent a Out Of Memory error when doing a Javac compile for ejbc, with a EntityRelationshipBean? Any help would be great! I'm compiling on a 256M machine and my command looks like this.. set PATH=C:\java\j2sdk1.4.1_01\bin;%PATH% set LIB=C:\java\working\invest\lib\ java -verbosegc -cp %LIB%weblogic.jar -Xms128m -Xmx256m weblogic.ejbc -compiler javac EntityRel1.jar EntityRel.jar Many Thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Out Of Memory
it's may a trick around the config file of web logic it's song like you need to increase you cache but i never used weblogic - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: RE: Java Out Of Memory is -Xms256m only for available RAM, or can I increase my page file size and use that in the -X option aswell? -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:37 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory If you use -Xms256m you just will allow to use your whole memory. - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Java Out Of Memory Hi there, I know this isn't a Struts question, but I also know you're all extremely experienced Java dudes, so how can I prevent a Out Of Memory error when doing a Javac compile for ejbc, with a EntityRelationshipBean? Any help would be great! I'm compiling on a 256M machine and my command looks like this.. set PATH=C:\java\j2sdk1.4.1_01\bin;%PATH% set LIB=C:\java\working\invest\lib\ java -verbosegc -cp %LIB%weblogic.jar -Xms128m -Xmx256m weblogic.ejbc -compiler javac EntityRel1.jar EntityRel.jar Many Thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Out Of Memory
yeap I think so too but I'm sure someone could you more here cheers - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: RE: Java Out Of Memory so in other words, i need more RAM : ) -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:45 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory it's only for modify the ram size (by default 64 are allowed) - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: RE: Java Out Of Memory is -Xms256m only for available RAM, or can I increase my page file size and use that in the -X option aswell? -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:37 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory If you use -Xms256m you just will allow to use your whole memory. - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Java Out Of Memory Hi there, I know this isn't a Struts question, but I also know you're all extremely experienced Java dudes, so how can I prevent a Out Of Memory error when doing a Javac compile for ejbc, with a EntityRelationshipBean? Any help would be great! I'm compiling on a 256M machine and my command looks like this.. set PATH=C:\java\j2sdk1.4.1_01\bin;%PATH% set LIB=C:\java\working\invest\lib\ java -verbosegc -cp %LIB%weblogic.jar -Xms128m -Xmx256m weblogic.ejbc -compiler javac EntityRel1.jar EntityRel.jar Many Thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Out Of Memory
find more help ...I'm getting tired - Original Message - From: Alexandre Jaquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory yeap I think so too but I'm sure someone could you more here cheers - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: RE: Java Out Of Memory so in other words, i need more RAM : ) -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:45 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory it's only for modify the ram size (by default 64 are allowed) - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: RE: Java Out Of Memory is -Xms256m only for available RAM, or can I increase my page file size and use that in the -X option aswell? -Original Message- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:37 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Java Out Of Memory If you use -Xms256m you just will allow to use your whole memory. - Original Message - From: Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Java Out Of Memory Hi there, I know this isn't a Struts question, but I also know you're all extremely experienced Java dudes, so how can I prevent a Out Of Memory error when doing a Javac compile for ejbc, with a EntityRelationshipBean? Any help would be great! I'm compiling on a 256M machine and my command looks like this.. set PATH=C:\java\j2sdk1.4.1_01\bin;%PATH% set LIB=C:\java\working\invest\lib\ java -verbosegc -cp %LIB%weblogic.jar -Xms128m -Xmx256m weblogic.ejbc -compiler javac EntityRel1.jar EntityRel.jar Many Thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: Microsoft
Why I love developp with .NET and J2EE. :) - Original Message - From: Edgar Dollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:10 PM Subject: Microsoft I suppose this will start a war, but it is always healthy to keep an eye out. http://www.fawcette.com/javapro/2003_03/online/j2ee_bkurniawan_03_11_03/ http://www.fawcette.com/javapro/2003_03/online/j2ee_bkurniawan_03_11_03/ Edgar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts-JavaServer Faces Integration Library -- Early Access Version Now Available
Ok Thanks Craig. -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts-JavaServer Faces Integration Library -- Early Access Version Now Available On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Alexandre Jaquet wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:53:48 +0100 From: Alexandre Jaquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts-JavaServer Faces Integration Library -- Early Access Version Now Available Hi Craig, You didn't release any other struts-faces ? Why have you remove it from http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-struts/nightly/struts-faces/ ? Thanks. Oops ... the server cleans out old nightly build files for me. I thought my nightly build script was building this every night -- I'll fix that forthwith. Nothing has changed in this code yet, so the next nightly will be the same as the original one in terms of functionality. The only changes will be responses to bug reports (if any). -- Alexandre Jaquet Craig - Original Message - From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts-JavaServer Faces Integration Library -- Early Access Version Now Available On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, alexj wrote: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:30:52 +0100 From: alexj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts-JavaServer Faces Integration Library -- Early Access Version Now Available You don't have permission to access /builds/jakarta-struts/nightly/struts-faces/jakarta-struts-faces-20030306.ta r.gz on this server. sniff :( Just caught and fixed ... please try again :-) -- Alexandre Jaquet Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Searching the Struts Mail List Archive
sure the second one rulez -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: James Watkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:27 PM Subject: Searching the Struts Mail List Archive I'd like to give some constructive feedback on the two different interfaces to the Struts Mail List Archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ and http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=42 The second interface seems to give more relevant search results. Have others found this to be true? - Jim __ James Watkin ACIS Software Development The Anderson School at UCLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 1-310-825-5030 Fax: 1-310-825-4835 __ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for a Good Web Designing Tool
read the archive - Original Message - From: Vinay Chandupatla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: [OT]: Looking for a Good Web Designing Tool Hi everybody, Which tool is good for developing web pages. I am using struts architecture but I will be the on who will also doing web designing work and also programming. I have Dreamweaver , but it doesn't support many features like fieldset and legend Is there a very user friendly Tool which can help build web user interfaces. Help appreciated Thank you very much Vinay - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]