RE: How-to dynamically name properties?

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Actually, Michael, if you can write the images, there is all sorts of 
server side functionality for Flash with Java.  I do it extensively.

Micael

At 04:41 PM 5/14/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Just a joke, dude; I suck.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Michael Marrotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:35 PM
>
>Mark,
>
>Are you joking about Flash or does it really support some type of
>server-side programming?
>
>--Michael Marrotte
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:23 PM
>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: How-to dynamically name properties?
>
>
>There's no problem with the JavaScript - I'm wrapping bean getters in both
>String() and parseFloat() without a problem.  I don't think the
>will compile without the property="[string]" with the quotes. I don't have 
>the time to mess with it, so I thought I'd just share an idea. Or he could 
>just use Flash Mark -Original Message- From: James Mitchell 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:23 PM Does 
>this compile? JM > -Original Message- > From: Galbreath, Mark 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:14 PM > To: 
>'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: How-to dynamically name 
>properties? > > > I've found using as part of dynamic functions > 
>problematic, but > have been able to do with JavaScript by wrapping the 
>bean getter with a > JavaScript "type." For example, you may find some way 
>to do > something like: > > > > > > But I think Struts will choke when it 
>doesn't see a double quote after the > assignment operator in the select 
>tag. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Marrotte 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:59 PM > To: 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: How-to dynamically name 
>properties? > > > Can someone help me figure a way to do something like 
>this? > > filter="true"/>"> > > What I wanted to do is dynamically name 
>the property, > x_[some-dynamic-value]. > > Any idea on how I should 
>really approach this? > > Thanks, > > --Michael Marrotte > > > -- > To 
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Re: Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Just so you know too, Duke, since you helped me out, JDK 1.4 is 
preferrable, since it allows headless awt work, if you set the JVM startup 
to -Djava.awt.headless=true.  Thanks again.  Micael

At 04:36 PM 5/13/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In a previous project we used JAI on JDK 1.3 with struts to do JPG
>resizing/scaling and modifications on a java.awt.image.RenderedImage
>without any X11 side effects, so your assumption that it is a JDk 1.4
>thing may be correct.  (We are using this code on Win2k, Solaris8 & Red
>Hat Linux)
>
>Cheers
>Duke
>
>
>
>On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 15:15, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
> > I presently am having difficulty using the awt with servlets to do image
> > reconstruction work on a RedHat 7.2 Linux platfrom, because I get the
> > following exception, which some think is a bug in JDK 1.4, but seems to be
> > something Sun has tolerated intentionally
> >
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11
> > window server using ':0,0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
> >   at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method)
> >   at 
> sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.<>(11GraphicsEnvironment.java:126)
> >   at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> >   at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130)
> >   at java.awt.Toolkit#2.run(Toolket.java:712)
> >   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> >   at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:703)
> >   at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(init>(ImageIcon.java:81)
> >   at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(ImageIcon.java:107)
> >
> > My "ps aux" says:
> >
> >   /etc/X11/X -auth /var/lib/kdm/authfiles/A:0-0Dqymv
> >
> > for the X11 server.  Does anyone have an idea what I need to do at this
> > point?  Everything works on a pc, of course.
> >
> > This is not strictly a struts problem, of course, but it is something that
> > struts users that deal with multimedia will need to deal with since it is
> > essentially a server side problem.  I have no problem with leaving an X11
> > server running to make this work.  I cannot live with the client having to
> > do anything special.  The problem is that I don't want to use the graphics
> > but do want to access the graphic functionality.
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance.
> >
> > Micael
> >
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Re: X11 -Djava.awt.headless=true Doesn't do it for JDK 1.4

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I have the class working now. Thanks for all the help. The same problem is 
rife on Cocoon.  Micael

At 12:40 AM 5/13/02 -0700, you wrote:
>I tried setting -Djava.awt.headless=true and the JVM is running that way. 
>However, I still get the following error message:
>
>Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 
>window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.  I 
>changed the value of the DISPLAY variable to the :0.0 
>with no dice either.
>
>Anyone got an idea how the DISPLAY variable should be set, or why it needs 
>to be set, since it is runing headless?
>
>Micael
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X11 -Djava.awt.headless=true Doesn't do it for JDK 1.4

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I tried setting -Djava.awt.headless=true and the JVM is running that way. 
However, I still get the following error message:

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 
window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.  I changed 
the value of the DISPLAY variable to the :0.0 with no 
dice either.

Anyone got an idea how the DISPLAY variable should be set, or why it needs 
to be set, since it is runing headless?

Micael



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Re: Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Did you use a buffer for the image?  That is where the problem crops up, I 
think.

Micael

At 04:36 PM 5/13/02 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In a previous project we used JAI on JDK 1.3 with struts to do JPG
>resizing/scaling and modifications on a java.awt.image.RenderedImage
>without any X11 side effects, so your assumption that it is a JDk 1.4
>thing may be correct.  (We are using this code on Win2k, Solaris8 & Red
>Hat Linux)
>
>Cheers
>Duke
>
>
>
>On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 15:15, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
> > I presently am having difficulty using the awt with servlets to do image
> > reconstruction work on a RedHat 7.2 Linux platfrom, because I get the
> > following exception, which some think is a bug in JDK 1.4, but seems to be
> > something Sun has tolerated intentionally
> >
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11
> > window server using ':0,0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
> >   at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method)
> >   at 
> sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.<>(11GraphicsEnvironment.java:126)
> >   at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> >   at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130)
> >   at java.awt.Toolkit#2.run(Toolket.java:712)
> >   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> >   at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:703)
> >   at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(init>(ImageIcon.java:81)
> >   at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(ImageIcon.java:107)
> >
> > My "ps aux" says:
> >
> >   /etc/X11/X -auth /var/lib/kdm/authfiles/A:0-0Dqymv
> >
> > for the X11 server.  Does anyone have an idea what I need to do at this
> > point?  Everything works on a pc, of course.
> >
> > This is not strictly a struts problem, of course, but it is something that
> > struts users that deal with multimedia will need to deal with since it is
> > essentially a server side problem.  I have no problem with leaving an X11
> > server running to make this work.  I cannot live with the client having to
> > do anything special.  The problem is that I don't want to use the graphics
> > but do want to access the graphic functionality.
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance.
> >
> > Micael
> >
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> > suggestions.  Thanks for that too.
> >
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Re: Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

What I don't understand is that I should have the X11 running.  I showed 
you the ps aux reading and I use a graphical interface on the server to do 
modications all the time.

?


Micael

At 04:57 PM 5/13/02 +1000, you wrote:
>They would have been installed with X services.
>I think that if an admin installs a box without basic head functionality 
>he's being a bit of a tool. :)
>
>Win2K install should always be fine in this regard. We all know that the 
>head stuff and internet browsing cannot be removed from any competitive 
>operating system ;)
>
>Arron.
>
>
>Duke Ronlund wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>In a previous project we used JAI on JDK 1.3 with struts to do JPG
>>resizing/scaling and modifications on a java.awt.image.RenderedImage
>>without any X11 side effects, so your assumption that it is a JDk 1.4
>>thing may be correct.  (We are using this code on Win2k, Solaris8 & Red
>>Hat Linux)
>>
>>Cheers
>>Duke
>
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Re: Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Arron,

I added the Djava.awt.headless="true" to CATALINA_OPTS as follows:

# - Execute The Requested Command -

echo "Using CATALINA_BASE:   $CATALINA_BASE"
echo "Using CATALINA_HOME:   $CATALINA_HOME"
echo "Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: $CATALINA_TMPDIR"
echo "Using JAVA_HOME:   $JAVA_HOME"

if [ "$1" = "jpda" ] ; then
   if [ -z "$JPDA_ADDRESS" ]; then
 JPDA_ADDRESS="8000"
   fi
   if [ -z "$JDPA_OPTS" ]; then
 JPDA_OPTS="-Xdebug 
-Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=$JPDA_ADDRESS,server=y,suspend=n"
   fi
   CATALINA_OPTS="$CATALINA_OPTS $JPDA_OPTS"
   shift
fi
CATALINA_OPTS="-Djava.awt.headless=true"

This did not fix the problem.  Have I got it in the wrong place or something?

Micael

At 04:57 PM 5/13/02 +1000, you wrote:
>They would have been installed with X services.
>I think that if an admin installs a box without basic head functionality 
>he's being a bit of a tool. :)
>
>Win2K install should always be fine in this regard. We all know that the 
>head stuff and internet browsing cannot be removed from any competitive 
>operating system ;)
>
>Arron.
>
>
>Duke Ronlund wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>In a previous project we used JAI on JDK 1.3 with struts to do JPG
>>resizing/scaling and modifications on a java.awt.image.RenderedImage
>>without any X11 side effects, so your assumption that it is a JDk 1.4
>>thing may be correct.  (We are using this code on Win2k, Solaris8 & Red
>>Hat Linux)
>>
>>Cheers
>>Duke
>
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Re: Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I have X installed, I assume, since the ps aux shows that the X11/X is set 
at /var/lib/kdm, etc.  (see below or infra).  I will check out the "what's 
new with JDK 1.4 again, but don't remember that.  If I do have X installed, 
then what is the command to make it work?  It may simply be a permissions 
problem at this point.

At 03:38 PM 5/13/02 +1000, you wrote:
>That still won't help in a server environment where X may not even be 
>installed. I believe JDK 1.4 introduced the ability to do some of these 
>operations to an offscreen buffer - check out the what's new if you are 
>interested.
>
>- Brett
>
>Richard Yee wrote:
>>Micael,
>>Is your display variable set to the machine that you are running on? It 
>>should be :0.0.
>>Regards,
>>Richard
>>At 10:15 PM 5/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>>I presently am having difficulty using the awt with servlets to do image 
>>>reconstruction work on a RedHat 7.2 Linux platfrom, because I get the 
>>>following exception, which some think is a bug in JDK 1.4, but seems to 
>>>be something Sun has tolerated intentionally
>>>
>>>Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 
>>>window server using ':0,0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
>>> at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method)
>>> at 
>>> sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.<>(11GraphicsEnvironment.java:126)
>>> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
>>> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130)
>>> at java.awt.Toolkit#2.run(Toolket.java:712)
>>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>> at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:703)
>>> at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(init>(ImageIcon.java:81)
>>> at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(ImageIcon.java:107)
>>>
>>>My "ps aux" says:
>>>
>>> /etc/X11/X -auth /var/lib/kdm/authfiles/A:0-0Dqymv
>>>
>>>for the X11 server.  Does anyone have an idea what I need to do at this 
>>>point?  Everything works on a pc, of course.
>>>
>>>This is not strictly a struts problem, of course, but it is something 
>>>that struts users that deal with multimedia will need to deal with since 
>>>it is essentially a server side problem.  I have no problem with leaving 
>>>an X11 server running to make this work.  I cannot live with the client 
>>>having to do anything special.  The problem is that I don't want to use 
>>>the graphics but do want to access the graphic functionality.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any assistance.
>>>
>>>Micael
>>>
>>>P.S. If you don't understand the above, please do not offer 
>>>suggestions.  Thanks for that too.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Do you mean the ip address of the server?  If so, that would be easy to set 
with

export DISPLAY=:0.0

But, is that right?  If so, should be a snap.

If you mean the client machine, then I don't want to do that, because the 
functionality is not to send image data but to manipulate it in a servlet.

Thanks for a prompt suggestion.

Micael

At 10:36 PM 5/12/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Micael,
>Is your display variable set to the machine that you are running on? It 
>should be :0.0.
>
>Regards,
>
>Richard
>
>At 10:15 PM 5/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>I presently am having difficulty using the awt with servlets to do image 
>>reconstruction work on a RedHat 7.2 Linux platfrom, because I get the 
>>following exception, which some think is a bug in JDK 1.4, but seems to 
>>be something Sun has tolerated intentionally
>>
>>Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 
>>window server using ':0,0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
>> at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method)
>> at 
>> sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.<>(11GraphicsEnvironment.java:126)
>> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
>> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130)
>> at java.awt.Toolkit#2.run(Toolket.java:712)
>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>> at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:703)
>> at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(init>(ImageIcon.java:81)
>> at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(ImageIcon.java:107)
>>
>>My "ps aux" says:
>>
>> /etc/X11/X -auth /var/lib/kdm/authfiles/A:0-0Dqymv
>>
>>for the X11 server.  Does anyone have an idea what I need to do at this 
>>point?  Everything works on a pc, of course.
>>
>>This is not strictly a struts problem, of course, but it is something 
>>that struts users that deal with multimedia will need to deal with since 
>>it is essentially a server side problem.  I have no problem with leaving 
>>an X11 server running to make this work.  I cannot live with the client 
>>having to do anything special.  The problem is that I don't want to use 
>>the graphics but do want to access the graphic functionality.
>>
>>Thanks for any assistance.
>>
>>Micael
>>
>>P.S. If you don't understand the above, please do not offer 
>>suggestions.  Thanks for that too.
>>
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Struts and X11

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I presently am having difficulty using the awt with servlets to do image 
reconstruction work on a RedHat 7.2 Linux platfrom, because I get the 
following exception, which some think is a bug in JDK 1.4, but seems to be 
something Sun has tolerated intentionally

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 
window server using ':0,0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method)
at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.<>(11GraphicsEnvironment.java:126)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130)
at java.awt.Toolkit#2.run(Toolket.java:712)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:703)
at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(init>(ImageIcon.java:81)
at javax.swing.ImageIcon.(ImageIcon.java:107)

My "ps aux" says:

/etc/X11/X -auth /var/lib/kdm/authfiles/A:0-0Dqymv

for the X11 server.  Does anyone have an idea what I need to do at this 
point?  Everything works on a pc, of course.

This is not strictly a struts problem, of course, but it is something that 
struts users that deal with multimedia will need to deal with since it is 
essentially a server side problem.  I have no problem with leaving an X11 
server running to make this work.  I cannot live with the client having to 
do anything special.  The problem is that I don't want to use the graphics 
but do want to access the graphic functionality.

Thanks for any assistance.

Micael

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RE: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

You might want to be a bit more careful about what you suggest.  This may 
be a crime.  Like I said,
I am a lawyer, but you probably know better.

At 01:30 AM 5/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
>We should get everyone to call him on his cell phonehere's the number
>(for those friggin idiots who are about to flame me..the number is in
>the email address)
>
>(832)723-1084
>
>Anyone know what area code that is?
>
>
>JM
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Udstrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:20 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
> >
> >
> >
> > Yep, I am getting this too
> >
> > M.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:16 AM
> > Subject: RE: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
> >
> >
> > > Is anyone else getting this with every post to the list?
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mail Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:11 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
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> > > > The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
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Re: Internationalization

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

The page is static.  When you change the locale, it will have to refresh 
itself.  So, you have already succeeded.  If you are having a problem, this 
is not it.  What is the problem you are having?

At 01:41 PM 5/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I am trying to integrate internationalization in my struts application.  I
>have a french link on my jsp page.  When the link is clicked, I want to
>change the locale to french and refresh the page the user was on when he
>clicked on the link.  I know how to change the locale but don't know how to
>have my page refreshed.  Any help would be welcome.
>
>Thanks
>
>Johanne Demers
>
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Re: *** URGENT Help needed ****

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

What hotmail account are you talking about?  You seem to have a lot of time 
on your hands.  Maybe you forgot it is a lot smaller world than you think.

At 03:08 PM 5/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Is Micael trying to say that he built the hotmail account to disguise
>himself from Mark/James - and that this is, in fact, a thread initiated by
>HIM incognito? *gasp* =O
>
>... friday - not a day of the week, but a STATE OF MIND (if you're on the
>struts-user mailing list that is =)
>
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>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: *** URGENT Help needed 
>
>
> > There is a difference between saying you are superior and being worth a
> > damn.  You obviously are sucking -- up.  My problem with Jim and Mark is
> > they did not bother to read my question.  You apparently have not either.
> >
> > At 05:17 PM 5/3/02 +0530, you wrote:
> > >suck suck gets better..
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Etienne, Ingo (Goetzfried AG)
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:06 PM
> > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > >Subject: RE: *** URGENT Help needed 
> > >
> > >
> > >Applause !!!
> > >Really good one :)))
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Reid Tardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Freitag, 3. Mai 2002 13:30
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: *** URGENT Help needed 
> > >
> > >
> > >Dearest Struts Gurus,
> > >
> > >My name is Reid Tardy.
> > >
> > >This may be a bit off topic but I need all of you all to drop what you
>are
> > >doing and help me right now. I am trying to modify the Struts example to
>run
> > >
> > >on a machine with VB instead of Java. I also want to be able to download
>gif
> > >
> > >files into Lotus Notes. I have never used Java before but since I hold an
>AA
> > >
> > >in make-up application, an AS in auto mechanics, an AS in massage
>therapy, a
> > >
> > >BA in history, an MA in 20th-Century Bulgarian Literature with a minor in
> > >sword fighting, a PHD in Political Science from a college somewhere in
> > >Newfoundland and numerous continuing ed certificates. I have spent the
> > >better part of ten minutes trying to get it to work but it doesn't. My
> > >browser don't shows anything ... it don't even show an exception. I
>haven't
> > >bothered to look at the documentation. One last question, do I need some
> > >thing like TomCat? What is a TomCat anyway? Could you tell me how to
>install
> > >
> > >one if I need it? Please help immediately but not too fast because I am
> > >going for beers soon.
> > >
> > >Many thanks and kind regards,
> > >
> > >Reid
> > >
> > >P.S. By the way, James and Mark you both suck more than Micael because
>you
> > >haven't answered my question before I posted it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: [ANNOUNCE]petstore1.3 running under struts1.0

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I will host one on Red Hat 7.2, if you like.  Just send me the zip as well.

At 01:05 PM 5/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I'll host a copy on Win2K Advanced Server.
>
>Just send me the zip.
>
>JM
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yang Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:31 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: [ANNOUNCE]petstore1.3 running under struts1.0
> >
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > I have rewritten the View and Controller part(of MVC)
> > of the petstore 1.3 web layer. Now the petstore can
> > run with struts 1.0.
> >
> > The View part, I switched from sun smart tags to
> > struts
> > tags, struts style template. But I kept smart tags in
> > few places where smart tags are better choices.
> >
> > For Controller part, I switched the MainServlet, and
> > TemplateServlet to subclasses of struts ActionServlet
> > and used struts configuration format. and built bridge
> > classes to adapt struts actions to petstore actions.
> >
> > The Model(with help of some adaptor classes) part and
> > layers under M(EJB etc.) are kept unchanged.
> >
> > I think struts is much richer set of tags and a
> > maturer web layer framework with better i18l
> > support.(smart tag has great features but is not
> > enough for a big project). If petstore has struts as a
> > web layer, it will be a good foundation to develop new
> > production-strength project upon.
> >
> > I have tested the new package on my machine thorougly,
> > but I hope someone can help me test it on other
> > environment. after that. anyone would like to host the
> > patch download? If you are interested, Please tell
> > email address so I can send you a copy. I can send you
> > the whole petstore directory under
> > apps/src/petstore(about 751k after zip), so you can
> > simply rebuild and deploy to a running j2eesdk server.
> >
> > Yang
> >
> >
> >
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RE: *** URGENT Help needed ****

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

There is a difference between saying you are superior and being worth a 
damn.  You obviously are sucking -- up.  My problem with Jim and Mark is 
they did not bother to read my question.  You apparently have not either.

At 05:17 PM 5/3/02 +0530, you wrote:
>suck suck gets better..
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Etienne, Ingo (Goetzfried AG)
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:06 PM
>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: *** URGENT Help needed 
>
>
>Applause !!!
>Really good one :)))
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Reid Tardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Freitag, 3. Mai 2002 13:30
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: *** URGENT Help needed 
>
>
>Dearest Struts Gurus,
>
>My name is Reid Tardy.
>
>This may be a bit off topic but I need all of you all to drop what you are
>doing and help me right now. I am trying to modify the Struts example to run
>
>on a machine with VB instead of Java. I also want to be able to download gif
>
>files into Lotus Notes. I have never used Java before but since I hold an AA
>
>in make-up application, an AS in auto mechanics, an AS in massage therapy, a
>
>BA in history, an MA in 20th-Century Bulgarian Literature with a minor in
>sword fighting, a PHD in Political Science from a college somewhere in
>Newfoundland and numerous continuing ed certificates. I have spent the
>better part of ten minutes trying to get it to work but it doesn't. My
>browser don't shows anything ... it don't even show an exception. I haven't
>bothered to look at the documentation. One last question, do I need some
>thing like TomCat? What is a TomCat anyway? Could you tell me how to install
>
>one if I need it? Please help immediately but not too fast because I am
>going for beers soon.
>
>Many thanks and kind regards,
>
>Reid
>
>P.S. By the way, James and Mark you both suck more than Micael because you
>haven't answered my question before I posted it.
>
>
>
>
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Flash

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

This list is sometimes incredible.  I asked what to do about the fact that 
the includes for Flash arrays are not governed by the requirements in 
struts and that, consequently, they seemingly cannot be used inside WEB-INF 
on sturts.  A whole raft of people with limited knowledge and a lack of 
interest in reading what the question was jumped in and said really inane 
and useless things.  Craig finally answered the question and one other 
person offered some helpful thoughts.  Once again, and for the last time, 
the question was not about Flash, but about struts.  I recognize lots about 
Flash.  I write my Flash files with Java, for example, to get better 
results than you get from the Macromedia IDE.  I am not a newbie in either 
Flash or Java.  I am Sun certified in Java.  Not a big deal, but no newbie 
either.  I realize that I can rewrite the Flash array elements to include 
urls too, and I have done that.  Okay?  I should not get credit for being 
unclear when you have obviously made unwarranted assumptions about what I 
said without reading it.  At least Craig had no trouble at all reading it.

That said, I do appreciate your response, which is a welcome relief from 
the usual nanonits that have responded to this inquiry with really backward 
ideas.  I mean that, I do.  I just am not in too good a mood after having 
to deal with the droids.  So, please forgive me that.

Micael

At 04:10 AM 5/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
>
>>Mark,
>>
>>You don't get it either.  This is a STRUTS specific question.  Thanks for 
>>trying to help, however.
>
>
>If no one understands your question maybe you aren't asking it clearly. I 
>know Flash and to me it sounds like you're asking about Struts writing 
>directly into Flash like Generator. I haven't bothered to answer because I 
>thought it was some retarded newbie question like "can I use struts to 
>make my PHP faster?"
>
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RE: You suck! No, You suck!

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Trust me, your post and Craig's are totally different.  You obviously 
cannot see the difference.  And, trust me, I have and will neither hate nor 
love you.  You are not good enough to be either my friend or my enemy.  I 
got the answer to my question from Craig.  Please go away!  Thanks.  Micael

At 11:29 PM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Hmmm..that response from Craig looks familiar...now where did I see
>that before?
>
>Oh yeshere
>http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg29913.html
>
>Micael, its obvious you've hated me from this post forward:
>http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg29877.html
>
>You read the responses from Eddie and Craig.
>They all basically explained to you (in words) what I did in code.
>
>By the way, the code I posted for you was actually running as part of the
>struts-example under tomcat 3.2.4 on win2k and not copied or typed in.
>
>My suggestions at the bottom of that post were in response to your
>complaining that nobody was answering your question.  I wasted a few hours
>today trying to explain to you that I DID understand your question.
>
>My post was to try and help you (and others).
>
>I mean, you didn't JUST snap back at me.  You started two separate threads
>using MY name in an obvious attempt to make me look bad in front of others
>who monitor the list.
>
> >From now on, when you post to the list.  I will steer clear of Micael
>Padraig Og mac Grene and when I post answers to try and help
>people...and you see my name in the from address...
>
>
>You have three choices:
>1) Delete it
>2) Read it and then delete it
>3) Read it and join in the discussion
>
>I hope you pick the latter.
>
>JM
>
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: You suck! No, You suck!
> >
> >
> > Thanks, I feared that.  Okay.  Much appreciated.  Sorry about the flame
> > war, but I have a temper and just cannot stand rudeness in people
> > who don't
> > know or even bother finding out what they are responding to. Micael
> >
> > At 12:22 PM 5/1/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >On Wed, 1 May 2002, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:11:52 -0700
> > > > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: RE: You suck! No, You suck!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for threatening to stop the car, Craig.  ///;-0  But, could you
> > > > PLEASE answer my question about STRUTS.  It is about struts
> > and only about
> > > > struts.  Flash file arrays (built by others) reference other
> > Flash files in
> > > > the same directory, and I need to know, since the reference
> > (include) is
> > > > inside the swf and cannot be changed by myself, can it be used inside
> > > > WEB-INF in struts?
> > > >
> > >
> > >I don't know anything specific about Flash, so this is a repeat of an
> > >answer to this question from someone else that got lost in the shuffle.
> > >
> > >Background Issue - Things inside /WEB-INF are visible to your application
> > >(i.e. you can do request dispatcher include and forward calls with them)
> > >but not to your client.
> > >
> > >Therefore - *IF* the Flash client tries to do a second HTTP
> > request to get
> > >the referenced file, it will fail.  I suspect this is probably what
> > >happens, but really don't have a clue.
> > >
> > >The same thing will happen in a non-Flash scenario if your JSP page
> > >"/WEB-INF/mypage.jsp" contains a relative reference to an image in the
> > >same directory:
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >The image retrieval (done by the browser as a separate HTTP request) will
> > >fail, because the absolute URL will be something like:
> > >
> > >   http://www.mycompany.com/myapp/WEB-INF/logo.gif
> > >
> > >and the container will disallow direct client access to the
> > >context-relative path "/WEB-INF/logo.gif".
> > >
> > >Craig
> > >
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Re: relative links from flash (was: Re: You suck! No, You suck!)

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Sounds like an interesting idea and a hope.  I may do this and, if it does 
not work, may be able to doctor up a tag that does. Thanks.

Micael

At 12:55 PM 5/1/02 -0700, you wrote:
>On 5/1/2002 12:11 PM, this issued forth from the mind of Micael Padraig
>Og mac Grene:
> > Thanks for threatening to stop the car, Craig.  ///;-0  But, could you
> > PLEASE answer my question about STRUTS.  It is about struts and only about
> > struts.  Flash file arrays (built by others) reference other Flash 
> files in
> > the same directory, and I need to know, since the reference (include) is
> > inside the swf and cannot be changed by myself, can it be used inside
> > WEB-INF in struts?
>
>i'm not sure if this addresses the question at hand, since i know jack
>about flash, but here goes:
>
>you might be able to achieve the desired results with the 
>tag.  this generates a base href meta tag that informs the browser that
>all relative links on the page should be considered relative to a
>particular URL.
>
>i don't know if this would work -- you'd need to do some
>experimentation, and figure out:
>
>*) if the browser honors the base tag when following links from a flash
>animation.
>
>*) what you'd need to set the base to in order to get the links to go to
>the right place.
>
>but hey, it might work...
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RE: You suck! No, You suck!

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Thanks, I feared that.  Okay.  Much appreciated.  Sorry about the flame 
war, but I have a temper and just cannot stand rudeness in people who don't 
know or even bother finding out what they are responding to. Micael

At 12:22 PM 5/1/02 -0700, you wrote:


>On Wed, 1 May 2002, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:11:52 -0700
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: You suck! No, You suck!
> >
> > Thanks for threatening to stop the car, Craig.  ///;-0  But, could you
> > PLEASE answer my question about STRUTS.  It is about struts and only about
> > struts.  Flash file arrays (built by others) reference other Flash files in
> > the same directory, and I need to know, since the reference (include) is
> > inside the swf and cannot be changed by myself, can it be used inside
> > WEB-INF in struts?
> >
>
>I don't know anything specific about Flash, so this is a repeat of an
>answer to this question from someone else that got lost in the shuffle.
>
>Background Issue - Things inside /WEB-INF are visible to your application
>(i.e. you can do request dispatcher include and forward calls with them)
>but not to your client.
>
>Therefore - *IF* the Flash client tries to do a second HTTP request to get
>the referenced file, it will fail.  I suspect this is probably what
>happens, but really don't have a clue.
>
>The same thing will happen in a non-Flash scenario if your JSP page
>"/WEB-INF/mypage.jsp" contains a relative reference to an image in the
>same directory:
>
>   
>
>The image retrieval (done by the browser as a separate HTTP request) will
>fail, because the absolute URL will be something like:
>
>   http://www.mycompany.com/myapp/WEB-INF/logo.gif
>
>and the container will disallow direct client access to the
>context-relative path "/WEB-INF/logo.gif".
>
>Craig
>
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RE: You suck! No, You suck!

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Thanks for threatening to stop the car, Craig.  ///;-0  But, could you 
PLEASE answer my question about STRUTS.  It is about struts and only about 
struts.  Flash file arrays (built by others) reference other Flash files in 
the same directory, and I need to know, since the reference (include) is 
inside the swf and cannot be changed by myself, can it be used inside 
WEB-INF in struts?

Thanks

At 12:05 PM 5/1/02 -0700, you wrote:


> > Subject: RE: You suck! No, You suck!
>
>All right boys and girls, lets knock it off before I send you all to your
>rooms until you can be nice to each other again.  OK?
>
>:-) :-).
>
>Craig
>
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Re: James Mitchell is a kind and generous person

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Why don't you look at the question and see how you might make it more specific?

At 01:28 PM 5/1/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Can we stop the flame now and get on with struts-centric discussions?!? =)
>
>I understand each of you is probably a bit perturbed, however, I think we're
>all adults.  Let's act like it.
>
>Perhaps if you restated your question, trying to be more specific.  I
>occassionally have to do that myself, and I feel I communicate very
>effectively.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Micael Padraig Og mac Grene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:18 PM
>Subject: RE: James Mitchell is a kind and generous person
>
>
> > The fact is that both of you typically shoot your mouths off before you
> > understand the issues.  In this case, there is a struts issue and you both
> > assumed that it was something else.  The issue is not joking, it is that
> > you both are impossible puerile.
> >
> > At 02:08 PM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Oh, well.  My philosophy has always been, "Joke 'em if they can't take a
> > >f*ck."
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:02 PM
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: James Mitchell is a kind and generous person
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Hmmmapparently I have made someone (no names) feel insecure about
>their
> > >abilities and/or knowledge of struts (hence the vicious personal attack)
> > >
> > >
> > >PS.  I can't believe I had to write a book to explain this.  However, I
>fear
> > >that someone (no names) still doesn't understand my point and may resort
>to
> > >sending a mean and hateful e-mail with my name blasted on the subject
>line
> > >and ..doh!!!   Too late ;)
> > >
> > >You're right Mark, that stove is pretty hot.
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RE: James Mitchell is a kind and generous person

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The fact is that both of you typically shoot your mouths off before you 
understand the issues.  In this case, there is a struts issue and you both 
assumed that it was something else.  The issue is not joking, it is that 
you both are impossible puerile.

At 02:08 PM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Oh, well.  My philosophy has always been, "Joke 'em if they can't take a
>f*ck."
>
>-Original Message-
>From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:02 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: James Mitchell is a kind and generous person
>
>
>
>Hmmmapparently I have made someone (no names) feel insecure about their
>abilities and/or knowledge of struts (hence the vicious personal attack)
>
>
>PS.  I can't believe I had to write a book to explain this.  However, I fear
>that someone (no names) still doesn't understand my point and may resort to
>sending a mean and hateful e-mail with my name blasted on the subject line
>and ..doh!!!   Too late ;)
>
>You're right Mark, that stove is pretty hot.
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RE: James Mitchell is Rude and Ignorant

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Mark,

You don't get it either.  This is a STRUTS specific question.  Thanks for 
trying to help, however.

Micael

At 11:56 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Extensive discussions regarding Flash and servlets have been held on
>servlet-interest.  Check out its archive at java.sun.com/products/servlet.
>There was a French guy on their about a year ago who was an expert.  It's
>possible that he's lurking.
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:37 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: James Mitchell is Rude and Ignorant
>
>
>The thing this question has to do with STRUTS is that it is an application
>which generates and AUTOMATIC relative reference within a SWF file that is
>NOT controlled in STRUTS.  So, if STRUTS cannot accommodate that, then
>there is a significant functionality out there that is inconsistent with
>using JSP files inside WEB-INF.  Do you now understand, James Mitchell?
>
>Your Pal, Micael
>
>At 08:29 AM 5/1/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >James,
> >
> >You don't know what you are talking about.  I know all about what you are
> >speaking about.  I am talking about Flash ARRAYS.  Get it?  If you don't
> >know the question, don't try the answer.  The question is not so simple as
> >you blithely ASSUME.  Plus, your advice s$cks.
> >
> >Micael
> >
> >At 11:18 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >>To answer your question  for the ?th time.
> >>
> >>What do Flash files (.swf) have to do with struts?
> >>
> >>Its a simple document request.
> >>
> >>Whether you choose to put you jsp files (I said jsp not "all content" )
> >>under WEB-INF is up to you.
> >>
> >>Whether you choose to make it: relative to the url ("flash-me-baby.swf"),
> >>relative to the application ("/flash-me-again-from-the-root.swf"), or
> >>absolute ("http://www.flashers-anon.com/struts/oh-ya.swf";) is up to you.
> >>
> >>
> >>Here's a snip of html from flash.com main page..notice the "movie"
>param
> >>and the "embed" urls, those are relative to the application.
> >>
> >> >>
> >>codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.
>ca
> >> >b#version=5,0,30,0"
> >> width="749"
> >> height="68">
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> quality=high
> >>
> >>pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Pro
>d_
> >> >Version=ShockwaveFlash"
> >> type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> >> width="749"
> >> height="68"
> >> bgcolor="#EE"
> >> salign="tl"
> >> menu="0">
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Life is full of choices, its up to you.
> >>
> >>My suggestion to you is:
> >>1. To write a **REEAALY** killer custom taglib that handles every possible
> >>.swf configuration and then donate it to the open source cause.
> >>2. Shut the H#LL up and get over it.
> >>
> >>;) Have a wonderful day
> >>
> >>JM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:30 AM
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: Flash Arrays: Possible on Struts with WEB-INF?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can Flash .swf array files access photo1.swf, photo2.swf, etc., Flash
> >> > element files in the same directory with relative file URLs?  You don't
> >> > have to tell me how to do it, I just want to know if it is
> >> > possible.  This
> >> > is fhe fourth time I have asked this question.  It seems to me to be a
> >> > reasonable question.  I know how to do the normal stuff with
> >> > struts.  But,
> >> > here there is no way to use the structs tags in the Flash .swf array
> >> > files.  I am asking about inside WEB-INF, because obviously
> >> > outside WEB-INF
> >> > is easy.
> >> >
> >> > Please give me a nod if it can or cannot be done.  Hopefully Craig will
> >> > take an interest, or someone who knows?  If this cannot be done, it is
>a
> >> > problem with the architecture, in my mind.
> >> >
> >> > micael
> >> >
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James Mitchell Continues His Faux Pax's

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

You should have thought again, James.  It is a STRUTS problem because some 
people MIGHT WANT TO USE A FLASH ARRAY WITH STRUTS AND THEY AUTOMATE 
RELATIVE IMAGE INCLUDES.  Catching on?

Micael

At 11:41 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Apparently I'm not an expert on Flash.
>
>Oh SH##, I'm sorry.  I meant to send that reply to the
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Please accept my apologies.
>
>JM
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:29 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: James Mitchell is Rude and Ignorant
> >
> >
> > James,
> >
> > You don't know what you are talking about.  I know all about what you are
> > speaking about.  I am talking about Flash ARRAYS.  Get it?  If you don't
> > know the question, don't try the answer.  The question is not so
> > simple as
> > you blithely ASSUME.  Plus, your advice s$cks.
> >
> > Micael
> >
> > At 11:18 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
> > >To answer your question  for the ?th time.
> > >
> > >What do Flash files (.swf) have to do with struts?
> > >
> > >Its a simple document request.
> > >
> > >Whether you choose to put you jsp files (I said jsp not "all content" )
> > >under WEB-INF is up to you.
> > >
> > >Whether you choose to make it: relative to the url ("flash-me-baby.swf"),
> > >relative to the application ("/flash-me-again-from-the-root.swf"), or
> > >absolute ("http://www.flashers-anon.com/struts/oh-ya.swf";) is up to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >Here's a snip of html from flash.com main page..notice the
> > "movie" param
> > >and the "embed" urls, those are relative to the application.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash
> > /swflash.ca
> > >b#version=5,0,30,0"
> > > width="749"
> > > height="68">
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > quality=high
> > >
> > >pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.c
> > gi?P1_Prod_
> > >Version=ShockwaveFlash"
> > > type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> > >         width="749"
> > > height="68"
> > > bgcolor="#EE"
> > > salign="tl"
> > > menu="0">
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Life is full of choices, its up to you.
> > >
> > >My suggestion to you is:
> > >1. To write a **REEAALY** killer custom taglib that handles
> > every possible
> > >.swf configuration and then donate it to the open source cause.
> > >2. Shut the H#LL up and get over it.
> > >
> > >;) Have a wonderful day
> > >
> > >JM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:30 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Flash Arrays: Possible on Struts with WEB-INF?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can Flash .swf array files access photo1.swf, photo2.swf, etc., Flash
> > > > element files in the same directory with relative file URLs?
> > You don't
> > > > have to tell me how to do it, I just want to know if it is
> > > > possible.  This
> > > > is fhe fourth time I have asked this question.  It seems to me to be a
> > > > reasonable question.  I know how to do the normal stuff with
> > > > struts.  But,
> > > > here there is no way to use the structs tags in the Flash .swf array
> > > > files.  I am asking about inside WEB-INF, because obviously
> > > > outside WEB-INF
> > > > is easy.
> > > >
> > > > Please give me a nod if it can or cannot be done.  Hopefully
> > Craig will
> > > > take an interest, or someone who knows?  If this cannot be
> > done, it is a
> > > > problem with the architecture, in my mind.
> > > >
> > > > micael
> > > >
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Re: James Mitchell is Rude and Ignorant

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

The thing this question has to do with STRUTS is that it is an application 
which generates and AUTOMATIC relative reference within a SWF file that is 
NOT controlled in STRUTS.  So, if STRUTS cannot accommodate that, then 
there is a significant functionality out there that is inconsistent with 
using JSP files inside WEB-INF.  Do you now understand, James Mitchell?

Your Pal, Micael

At 08:29 AM 5/1/02 -0700, you wrote:
>James,
>
>You don't know what you are talking about.  I know all about what you are 
>speaking about.  I am talking about Flash ARRAYS.  Get it?  If you don't 
>know the question, don't try the answer.  The question is not so simple as 
>you blithely ASSUME.  Plus, your advice s$cks.
>
>Micael
>
>At 11:18 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>>To answer your question  for the ?th time.
>>
>>What do Flash files (.swf) have to do with struts?
>>
>>Its a simple document request.
>>
>>Whether you choose to put you jsp files (I said jsp not "all content" )
>>under WEB-INF is up to you.
>>
>>Whether you choose to make it: relative to the url ("flash-me-baby.swf"),
>>relative to the application ("/flash-me-again-from-the-root.swf"), or
>>absolute ("http://www.flashers-anon.com/struts/oh-ya.swf";) is up to you.
>>
>>
>>Here's a snip of html from flash.com main page..notice the "movie" param
>>and the "embed" urls, those are relative to the application.
>>
>>>
>>codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.ca
>> >b#version=5,0,30,0"
>> width="749"
>> height="68">
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> quality=high
>>
>>pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_
>> >Version=ShockwaveFlash"
>> type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
>> width="749"
>> height="68"
>> bgcolor="#EE"
>>     salign="tl"
>> menu="0">
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Life is full of choices, its up to you.
>>
>>My suggestion to you is:
>>1. To write a **REEAALY** killer custom taglib that handles every possible
>>.swf configuration and then donate it to the open source cause.
>>2. Shut the H#LL up and get over it.
>>
>>;) Have a wonderful day
>>
>>JM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:30 AM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Flash Arrays: Possible on Struts with WEB-INF?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Can Flash .swf array files access photo1.swf, photo2.swf, etc., Flash
>> > element files in the same directory with relative file URLs?  You don't
>> > have to tell me how to do it, I just want to know if it is
>> > possible.  This
>> > is fhe fourth time I have asked this question.  It seems to me to be a
>> > reasonable question.  I know how to do the normal stuff with
>> > struts.  But,
>> > here there is no way to use the structs tags in the Flash .swf array
>> > files.  I am asking about inside WEB-INF, because obviously
>> > outside WEB-INF
>> > is easy.
>> >
>> > Please give me a nod if it can or cannot be done.  Hopefully Craig will
>> > take an interest, or someone who knows?  If this cannot be done, it is a
>> > problem with the architecture, in my mind.
>> >
>> > micael
>> >
>> >
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James Mitchell is Rude and Ignorant

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

James,

You don't know what you are talking about.  I know all about what you are 
speaking about.  I am talking about Flash ARRAYS.  Get it?  If you don't 
know the question, don't try the answer.  The question is not so simple as 
you blithely ASSUME.  Plus, your advice s$cks.

Micael

At 11:18 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
>To answer your question  for the ?th time.
>
>What do Flash files (.swf) have to do with struts?
>
>Its a simple document request.
>
>Whether you choose to put you jsp files (I said jsp not "all content" )
>under WEB-INF is up to you.
>
>Whether you choose to make it: relative to the url ("flash-me-baby.swf"),
>relative to the application ("/flash-me-again-from-the-root.swf"), or
>absolute ("http://www.flashers-anon.com/struts/oh-ya.swf";) is up to you.
>
>
>Here's a snip of html from flash.com main page..notice the "movie" param
>and the "embed" urls, those are relative to the application.
>
>
>codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.ca
>b#version=5,0,30,0"
> width="749"
> height="68">
>
>
>
>
>
> quality=high
>
>pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_
>Version=ShockwaveFlash"
> type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> width="749"
> height="68"
> bgcolor="#EE"
> salign="tl"
> menu="0">
>
>
>
>
>
>Life is full of choices, its up to you.
>
>My suggestion to you is:
>1. To write a **REEAALY** killer custom taglib that handles every possible
>.swf configuration and then donate it to the open source cause.
>2. Shut the H#LL up and get over it.
>
>;) Have a wonderful day
>
>JM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:30 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Flash Arrays: Possible on Struts with WEB-INF?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can Flash .swf array files access photo1.swf, photo2.swf, etc., Flash
> > element files in the same directory with relative file URLs?  You don't
> > have to tell me how to do it, I just want to know if it is
> > possible.  This
> > is fhe fourth time I have asked this question.  It seems to me to be a
> > reasonable question.  I know how to do the normal stuff with
> > struts.  But,
> > here there is no way to use the structs tags in the Flash .swf array
> > files.  I am asking about inside WEB-INF, because obviously
> > outside WEB-INF
> > is easy.
> >
> > Please give me a nod if it can or cannot be done.  Hopefully Craig will
> > take an interest, or someone who knows?  If this cannot be done, it is a
> > problem with the architecture, in my mind.
> >
> > micael
> >
> >
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Flash Arrays: Possible on Struts with WEB-INF?

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Can Flash .swf array files access photo1.swf, photo2.swf, etc., Flash 
element files in the same directory with relative file URLs?  You don't 
have to tell me how to do it, I just want to know if it is possible.  This 
is fhe fourth time I have asked this question.  It seems to me to be a 
reasonable question.  I know how to do the normal stuff with struts.  But, 
here there is no way to use the structs tags in the Flash .swf array 
files.  I am asking about inside WEB-INF, because obviously outside WEB-INF 
is easy.

Please give me a nod if it can or cannot be done.  Hopefully Craig will 
take an interest, or someone who knows?  If this cannot be done, it is a 
problem with the architecture, in my mind.

micael



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Re: Bean Bug?

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

First Principle of Economics: ever use float or double for money.  Use 
ints.  Or, for serious money, longs.  'The real problem is not the "output" 
but the whole idea.

micael

At 05:56 PM 4/30/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm using a simple  which grabs
>a float price from the form bean.  The display, however, is unpredictable.
>For a price of 25.00, e.g., can get returns of "25.00," "25.0" and "25."
>Anybody else experiencing this behavior?  I've had to wrap the 
>with JavaScript to get the formatting correct.
>
>Mark
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RE: some help ...

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

You are best off right now, I think, to read the struts documentation, 
which is excellent, even if it lacks in examples, which I personally like.

  02:11 PM 4/26/02 -0700, you wrote:

>  thanks a lot everybody :-)  could you also tell me , what kind of a 
> working knowledge do i need to have for Java, Servlets, JSP in order to 
> get started with struts .. (i mean, i guess i dont need to go into 
> multithreading, applets etc to begin with Struts) .. could somebody give 
> me a little POA (plan of action) for the next 15 days that wld help me 
> ... i have also ordered a book on struts from amazon .. and i do have a 
> pretty good knowlegde about html .. i have done a lot of website design 
> and stuff ..
>regards,
>Reshma
>   Boon Chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You need to focus on a few key subject matters: Java, JSP, Servlet API, HTTP
>protocol, database...I hope you know HTML...
>
>Maybe start with this (in order or better yet, read all of them
>simultaneously):
>
>Beginning JSP Web Development - to learn java and jsp
>Thinking in Java (Publisher: Prentice Hall?), Learning Java (Publisher:
>O'Reilly) - to learn the Java language
>Java Servlet Programming (Publisher: O'Reilly) - to learn the Servlet API
>Web Development with Java Server Pages (Publisher: Manning) - to learn
>Servlet API and JSP
>JSP Tag Libraries (Publisher: Manning)
>
>*Also, read up on database stuff - it's essential to doing any commercial
>site (e.g. www.postgresql.org).
>
>After you read all these (and have absorbed the materials) just pick up
>whatever books you need to fill in the gap.
>
>Code lots and ask questions on newsgroup and read articles on site such as
>java.sun.com and www.javaworld.com. You should be able to get up to speed
>fairly fast. No rocket science really.
>
>- boon
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: reshma deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:22 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: some help ...
>
>
>
>Hi!
>
>I have a little question, if you could please answer it...
>
>I am pretty new to the Java environment (just have read some tutorials on
>Java, JSP etc) but dont have much of a real-time coding experience. I have
>got a job, and I would soon be working on Struts. Before I start working on
>it, I would like to utilize my time well in learning what would be most
>useful for me, from the point of view of starting with Struts and being
>comfortable in the same, as soon as possible. I have around 15-20 days for
>that. Could you please suggest what I should start with, and also a few
>tutorials and books. (in short, could you please tell me what I should study
>for the next 15-20 days and from where) that would help me the most for
>starting off comfortably with Struts..
>
>Not many people know about Struts (infact, as of now I too dont :) and hence
>I am pretty much lost and confused with what & how to study... Any help from
>you would be greatly appreciated !!
>
>Thanks!
>Reshma
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: some help ...

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

What you should start with depends upon your background.  I will assume you 
are rational and intelligent, unlike some might.  Have you  coded with 
ASP?  Where are you in terms of your knowledge of web coding 
generally.  Since you seem to have obtained a job, I assume you have some 
considerable experience.

Micael

At 04:29 PM 4/26/02 -0400, you wrote:
>A reality check?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: reshma deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 4:22 PM
>
>I am pretty new to the Java environment (just have read some tutorials on
>Java, JSP etc) but dont have much of a real-time coding experience. I have
>got a job, and I would soon be working on Struts. I have around 15-20 days
>for that. Could you please suggest what I should start with?
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RE: NEWBIE HELP

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Well, my first question, as was yours with others, Mark, is "from 
where?".  As you point out, degrees are meaningless if the head did not 
follow the certificates.  I will do what we did in the Navy, follow the 
young officers lead.

I have complained about your posts before, and probably will not again.  A 
different strategy makes sense, e.g. pointing out how little you in fact do 
know, as you do with others.  By the way, your education pales next to 
mine.  And "continuing ed certicates"?

Hopefully we will find common ground, but I should tell you I have 
privately received many, many congradulations on saying something about 
your rude treatment of people.  Enough of this.  I will keep it, after 
this, centered on your errors, like the one with vi and the one with XML 
the last few days.  Bye.

At 12:12 PM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I hold an AA in electronics, an AS in biochemistry, an AS in computer
>science, a BA in history, an MA in 20th-Century American diplomatic history
>with a minor in statistics, a Ph.D. in political science and numerous
>continuing ed certificates, and I have haven't clue as to what you are
>saying.  I can only guess you take issue with my posts and are attempting an
>intellectual critique.
>
>You know where the delete key is?  Find it, learn it, live it.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:41 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: NEWBIE HELP
>
>
>As a person with considerable schooling, Mark, I ask you to please accept
>some well-meant advice: when you say things that say more about you than
>your subject-matter, other people will tend to think you are not quite
>"right".  The corollary is that when you talk about personalities rather
>than issues, you are not helpful.  You have become the issue.  Micael
>
>At 10:33 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >Interpret as you will; I am not arrogant.  I am a jokester.
> >
> >Be that as it may, most, if not all, CS programs teach Java as the
>beginning
> >language.  Further, to set up Tomcat, one merely has to read the
> >accompanying documentation.  If I expect our universities to produce
> >literate graduates with the ability to problem-solve, then call me
> >"arrogant."
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Harpreet Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:20 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
> >
> >
> >Mark there is no need to be arrogant, remember someday there could be
> >reversal of roles :)
> >
> >-Harpreet
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:49 PM
> >Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
> >
> >
> > > ;-)  I WOULD like to know what university is graduating CS students who
> > > can't install and configure Tomcat!  (Maybe they don't teach RTFM/STFW
> > > anymore?)
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Godbey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:44 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
> > >
> > >
> > > Now now, Mark, behave yourself!
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your message.  I suddenly feel much more job security.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John G Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:16 AM
> > >
> > > Hey all, I am a university student, in my last year of BS in CS and I
> > > have been working with Java for a few years. But I have to say I am
> > > finding my self quite lost with Tomcat deployment. I meen I can code a
> > > Servlet ( Well I know the rules and all) but to actually get it working
> > > on the server is a TOTALLY different story for me.
> > >
> > > Can anyone point me in the right direction so I can FINALLY get myself
> > > working.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks ALL
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >__

RE: tag nesting error

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Actually, Mark, a lot of XML experts recommend that space as critical to 
some screwed up parsers.

At 12:02 PM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm no XML expert, but I would assume white-space within a tag element is
>significant, though I've never had a parser complain about  rather
>than .
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Bob Byron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM
>
>I was tracking down a bug and was surprised when I found the solution.
>I thought it might be of interest.  And, I would like to know if this is
>proper
>behavior.
>
>I have been receiving the following error:
> > End of content reached while more parsing required: tag nesting error?
>
>After debugging, I found the problem to come down to a single space.  It
>seems that I was closing my  tag with .
>I would think this is fine, but I kept receiving the above error.  I was
>able
>to resolve the above error by removing the space in the closing iterate.
>So, the closing tag looked like this:  .  Notice the only
>difference is the space is now gone, and I receive no more error message.
>
>Is this correct behavior?  Or, is this a bug?
>
>Bob Byron
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RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

You are out of date, Mark.  It is now vim.  Todays kids!

At 11:54 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm using 9iRC2 right now (well, not RIGHT now, but multitasking) coding a
>JSP and action class.  Overall, I think the IDE is pretty solid and since I
>use to use JBuilder 6.0, the learning curve was pretty steep.  I didn't have
>to RTFM to use it, and that's always a good sign that a product is intuitive
>to employ.  I have four gripes, however:
>
>1.  The application freezes unexpectedly (about once/day) and has to be
>killed manually.  This is  very annoying if I haven't remembered to save my
>code for the past 10 minutes or so.  This happened with RC1, too.
>
>2.  If you try to compile (ctrl + shift + F9) and get compile errors, then
>simply repeat the compile, the IDE log window reports a successful
>compilation, even though you know there are checked exceptions being thrown.
>
>3.  It's difficult to compile and run JSPs within the IDE.
>
>4.  The debugger does not appear to work (could be me...).
>
>I've used HomeSite 4.5, Forte 3.1EE, and J++ (for 1.1 code - it was the
>best), and I think JBuilder is on the right track to being one of the best.
>
>Mark
>
>PS - you guys know I was just bullshitting you about using EMACS and vi.
>;-)
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Steve Muench [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
>
>
>With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
>we are feverishly working on new features for our next
>release (9.0.3).
>
>One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
>environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
>source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
>work with relational databases.
>
>A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
>for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
>the Model layer of a Struts application.
>
>I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
>troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
>JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
>fold that feedback into our next product version to
>polish any existing rough edges.
>
>Thanks.
>
>__
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>Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
>http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
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RE: NEWBIE HELP

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

As a person with considerable schooling, Mark, I ask you to please accept 
some well-meant advice: when you say things that say more about you than 
your subject-matter, other people will tend to think you are not quite 
"right".  The corollary is that when you talk about personalities rather 
than issues, you are not helpful.  You have become the issue.  Micael

At 10:33 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Interpret as you will; I am not arrogant.  I am a jokester.
>
>Be that as it may, most, if not all, CS programs teach Java as the beginning
>language.  Further, to set up Tomcat, one merely has to read the
>accompanying documentation.  If I expect our universities to produce
>literate graduates with the ability to problem-solve, then call me
>"arrogant."
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Harpreet Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:20 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
>
>
>Mark there is no need to be arrogant, remember someday there could be
>reversal of roles :)
>
>-Harpreet
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:49 PM
>Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
>
>
> > ;-)  I WOULD like to know what university is graduating CS students who
> > can't install and configure Tomcat!  (Maybe they don't teach RTFM/STFW
> > anymore?)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Godbey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:44 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
> >
> >
> > Now now, Mark, behave yourself!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: NEWBIE HELP
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your message.  I suddenly feel much more job security.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John G Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:16 AM
> >
> > Hey all, I am a university student, in my last year of BS in CS and I
> > have been working with Java for a few years. But I have to say I am
> > finding my self quite lost with Tomcat deployment. I meen I can code a
> > Servlet ( Well I know the rules and all) but to actually get it working
> > on the server is a TOTALLY different story for me.
> >
> > Can anyone point me in the right direction so I can FINALLY get myself
> > working.
> >
> >
> > Thanks ALL
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >
> >
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Relative URIs To and From "Includes"

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I have a bit of an unusual problem, I think.

I have the following sequence

  --> forward to an html page --> which includes a relative URI to an swf 
page --> which refers in an array to other "included" swf pages.

I can pretty much figure out the first two within the struts framework, but 
have no clue on the last one, since we cannot use struts tags in the 
Macromedia created swf.

Micael



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Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Last sub-explanation:

The reason the forwarding must be dynamic and not configured in an xml file 
is that the html and swf files are all created and destroyed dynamically 
with client purchases and expiration dates.

Micael

>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:35:04 -0700
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig
>
>The forwarding for this application, further, must be dynamic.
>
>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:15:48 -0700
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Subject: Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig
>>>
>>>I have looked at this and have researched the area, Craig, and I have a 
>>>simple question, I think.  The suggested solution involving extension 
>>>mapping is the default behavior of struts, is it not?
>>>
>>>At least the standard servlet mapping that came with structs in my case is:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>> action
>>> *.do
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>Essentially what I want to do is the following: access html pages which 
>>>reference .swf (Flash) files (templates) with relative references, e.g., 
>>>template1.swf, holding arrays of other .swf files (photos) which all 
>>>have relative references to the same directory by default, e.g. 
>>>photo1.swf, photo2.swf, photo3.swf, etc.  I want to forward to the html 
>>>pages through the controller and the ActionForward functionality in 
>>>order to preserve security and other matters.  But, my html pages are 
>>>not seeing the template pages.  I can solve that by using relative 
>>>references in the html pages, but not in the Flash template.swf 
>>>pages.  So, what to do?
>>>
>>>Why won't the relative references work when the default mapping is to 
>>>the extension *.do?
>>>
>>>Micael
>>>
>>>
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>>>>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:12:36 -0800 (PST)
>>>>From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Subject: Re: Images and STRUTS
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:29:28 -0800
>>>> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > Subject: Images and STRUTS
>>>> >
>>>> > I tried to do an ordinary image tag with the struts application, and 
>>>> could
>>>> > not.  What is happening with that?  I could not get the index.jsp 
>>>> page to
>>>> > reference an image in the same location.  I used the same page without
>>>> > struts, and it worked.  I am just getting the clue on struts.  I am
>>>> > familiar with the whole of Model 2 architectures, just not 
>>>> struts.  Is it
>>>> > the forwarding mechanism that is calling the problem?
>>>>
>>>>You probably want to ask this sort of question on the STRUTS-USER list
>>>>instead of here, but here's a common scenario that can cause Struts users
>>>>(or anyone else using an architecture that uses RequestDispatcher.forward)
>>>>grief:  if you are using relative path references for your images, those
>>>>paths get resolved against the request URI that the browser submitted to
>>>>-- not the URI of the page itself.  This is because the browser has no
>>>>clue that a RequestDispatcher.forward() call was done on the server side.
>>>>
>>>>Example:
>>>>
&

Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

The forwarding for this application, further, must be dynamic.


>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:15:48 -0700
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig
>>
>>I have looked at this and have researched the area, Craig, and I have a 
>>simple question, I think.  The suggested solution involving extension 
>>mapping is the default behavior of struts, is it not?
>>
>>At least the standard servlet mapping that came with structs in my case is:
>>
>>
>>   
>>   
>> action
>> *.do
>>   
>>
>>
>>Essentially what I want to do is the following: access html pages which 
>>reference .swf (Flash) files (templates) with relative references, e.g., 
>>template1.swf, holding arrays of other .swf files (photos) which all have 
>>relative references to the same directory by default, e.g. photo1.swf, 
>>photo2.swf, photo3.swf, etc.  I want to forward to the html pages through 
>>the controller and the ActionForward functionality in order to preserve 
>>security and other matters.  But, my html pages are not seeing the 
>>template pages.  I can solve that by using relative references in the 
>>html pages, but not in the Flash template.swf pages.  So, what to do?
>>
>>Why won't the relative references work when the default mapping is to the 
>>extension *.do?
>>
>>Micael
>>
>>
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>>>Subject: Re: Images and STRUTS
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>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
>>>
>>> > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:29:28 -0800
>>> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: Images and STRUTS
>>> >
>>> > I tried to do an ordinary image tag with the struts application, and 
>>> could
>>> > not.  What is happening with that?  I could not get the index.jsp page to
>>> > reference an image in the same location.  I used the same page without
>>> > struts, and it worked.  I am just getting the clue on struts.  I am
>>> > familiar with the whole of Model 2 architectures, just not struts.  Is it
>>> > the forwarding mechanism that is calling the problem?
>>>
>>>You probably want to ask this sort of question on the STRUTS-USER list
>>>instead of here, but here's a common scenario that can cause Struts users
>>>(or anyone else using an architecture that uses RequestDispatcher.forward)
>>>grief:  if you are using relative path references for your images, those
>>>paths get resolved against the request URI that the browser submitted to
>>>-- not the URI of the page itself.  This is because the browser has no
>>>clue that a RequestDispatcher.forward() call was done on the server side.
>>>
>>>Example:
>>>
>>>- Your app is installed at "http://localhost:8080/myapp";
>>>
>>>- You have a main page "index.jsp", which therefore has the absolute URI
>>>   "http://localhost:8080/myapp/index.jsp";.
>>>
>>>- You have an image in an "images" subdirectory, which therefore has the
>>>   absolute URI "http://localhost:8080/myapp/images/logo.gif";.
>>>
>>>- You have Struts set up to use path based mapping to the controller
>>>   servlet, so you get URIs like 
>>> "http://localhost:8080/myapp/do/getCustomer";
>>>   in it (to execute the "getCustomer" action).
>>>
>>>Now, consider what happens if you have the followi

Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:15:48 -0700
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Fwd: Re: Images and STRUTS: Craig
>
>I have looked at this and have researched the area, Craig, and I have a 
>simple question, I think.  The suggested solution involving extension 
>mapping is the default behavior of struts, is it not?
>
>At least the standard servlet mapping that came with structs in my case is:
>
>
>   
>   
> action
> *.do
>   
>
>
>Essentially what I want to do is the following: access html pages which 
>reference .swf (Flash) files (templates) with relative references, e.g., 
>template1.swf, holding arrays of other .swf files (photos) which all have 
>relative references to the same directory by default, e.g. photo1.swf, 
>photo2.swf, photo3.swf, etc.  I want to forward to the html pages through 
>the controller and the ActionForward functionality in order to preserve 
>security and other matters.  But, my html pages are not seeing the 
>template pages.  I can solve that by using relative references in the html 
>pages, but not in the Flash template.swf pages.  So, what to do?
>
>Why won't the relative references work when the default mapping is to the 
>extension *.do?
>
>Micael
>
>
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>>
>> > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:29:28 -0800
>> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> > Subject: Images and STRUTS
>> >
>> > I tried to do an ordinary image tag with the struts application, and could
>> > not.  What is happening with that?  I could not get the index.jsp page to
>> > reference an image in the same location.  I used the same page without
>> > struts, and it worked.  I am just getting the clue on struts.  I am
>> > familiar with the whole of Model 2 architectures, just not struts.  Is it
>> > the forwarding mechanism that is calling the problem?
>>
>>You probably want to ask this sort of question on the STRUTS-USER list
>>instead of here, but here's a common scenario that can cause Struts users
>>(or anyone else using an architecture that uses RequestDispatcher.forward)
>>grief:  if you are using relative path references for your images, those
>>paths get resolved against the request URI that the browser submitted to
>>-- not the URI of the page itself.  This is because the browser has no
>>clue that a RequestDispatcher.forward() call was done on the server side.
>>
>>Example:
>>
>>- Your app is installed at "http://localhost:8080/myapp";
>>
>>- You have a main page "index.jsp", which therefore has the absolute URI
>>   "http://localhost:8080/myapp/index.jsp";.
>>
>>- You have an image in an "images" subdirectory, which therefore has the
>>   absolute URI "http://localhost:8080/myapp/images/logo.gif";.
>>
>>- You have Struts set up to use path based mapping to the controller
>>   servlet, so you get URIs like "http://localhost:8080/myapp/do/getCustomer";
>>   in it (to execute the "getCustomer" action).
>>
>>Now, consider what happens if you have the following tag in index.jsp:
>>
>>   
>>
>>and you execute "http://localhost:8080/myapp/do/mainMenu";.  This fails to
>>retrieve the image.  Why?  Because the *browser* is the one that resolves
>>the absolute URI of the image -- and it resolves it against the URI that
>>it submitted for this request:
>>
>>   http://localhost:8080/myapp/do/images/logo.gif
>>
>>which is obviously wrong.  Ways to get around this:
>>
>>- (Struts-specific) Use extension mapping instead of path mapping
>>   for the controller. 

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I ordered and paid for the Struts ebook on line.  Never got the goods.  I 
have written to them twice, with no answer.  Guess it works like this: I 
send them money, and they spend the money.  Simple transaction.  Has anyone 
else had the same experience.  I should not have bothered, since the 
reviews were so bad.  To get ripped off on a bad book may be worse, what do 
you think?

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RE: Inside WEB-INF or outside WEB-INF? Struts security. SWF FILES

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

You seem to be suggesting, Craig, that you find putting them outside 
WEB-INF should be fine.  Is that a correct reading of your comments?  If 
so, would you please expand on that?  I am dealing with some relatively 
complex issues of reference between pages, including swf template files 
with arrays accessing other swf photo files, without, of course, including 
forwarding mechanisms available to struts.  I would like to do this inside 
of WEB-INF by instinct, thinking it would enhance security, but that may 
not be an option?  Thanks for any help on this.

At 01:59 PM 4/20/02 -0700, you wrote:


>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 00:39:53 -0700
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: Inside WEB-INF or outside WEB-INF? Struts security.
> >
> > Exactly!  So, why do the typical examples put the jsp pages outside?
> >
>
>The requirement that JSP pages work from inside /WEB-INF is not
>particularly clear in the Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specs, and in fact they
>do not work in some containers.  To minimize startup problems, that is why
>the Struts examples have them outside.
>
>Additionally, some Struts-based webapps do direct links from one JSP page
>to another, when there is no need for any processing logic in between.
>This won't work if they are inside.
>
>Finally, on't forget that, even if you put your own JSP pages inside the
>/WEB-INF directory, you'll need to leave the app home page (usually
>index.jsp) outside so that it is accessible.
>
>Craig
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Re: Struts declarative security policy? (was RE: Struts example - redundant login checking?)

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

I, for one, love the way these options are available.  They provide a 
mechanism to do whatever you need, I think.

At 01:46 PM 4/20/02 -0700, you wrote:


>On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Dennis Doubleday wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:56:11 -0400
> > From: Dennis Doubleday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Struts declarative security policy? (was RE: Struts example -
> > redundant login checking?)
> >
> > Seems to me that neither the jsp nor the action is the correct place to
> > enforce a security policy. It means both page designers and developers
> > have to remember to do it every time.
> >
>
>I agree.  A major purpose for the Struts example app is to ensure that you
>have Struts installed correctly, and I wanted to minimize the amount of
>container configuration you might have to do.
>
> > There ought to be (is there?) a mechanism for declaring a security
> > policy which can be referenced in struts-config.xml; i.e. access control
> > is just another property of an action mapping.
> >
>
>That is what container managed security, configured with the
> element in your /WEB-INF/web.xml file, is all about.
>Details of the supported syntax is in the Servlet Specification
>.
>
>Mechanisms for setting up users, and assigning roles to them, depend on
>the container you are running, so you'll need to consult it's
>documentation.  For example, in a default Tomcat installation, you do this
>by editing the file "conf/tomcat-users.xml".
>
>If you choose to use the container-managed security capabilities, Struts
>offers you role-based actions and role-based templating options.  Your
>actions can themselves be sensitive to what role(s) a logged-on user is in
>by calling request.isUserInRole().
>
>Craig
>
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RE: Inside WEB-INF or outside WEB-INF? Struts security.

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Exactly!  So, why do the typical examples put the jsp pages outside?

At 02:43 PM 4/19/02 -0300, you wrote:
>He means that it is more secure to place JSP files
>inside the WEB-INF directory, since it does not allow
>direct access to its files.
>So, nobody would be able to access the JSP files
>directly, and would then have to use the mapped URLs
>in struts.config.xml, which is more secure.
>
>  --- "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>escreveu: > I thought I answered that.  If you have
>nothing that
> > can execute outside
> > WEB-INF, what does security matter?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:32 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: Inside WEB-INF or outside WEB-INF?
> > Struts security.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for the response, but it is not responsive
> > to the question I
> > asked, I think.  My question was:
> >
> >  Most sample apps have the jsp pages and
> >  images outside the WEB-INF. Why? Isn't
> >  it more secure inside?
> >
> > So, where the servlets are ultimately put is not the
> > question, Mark.  The
> > question is why do most sample applications put the
> > jsp pages outside the
> > WEB-INF file, even in Tomcat?  That works with
> > Tomcat too.  You can put
> > them in either place, but if you do it outside you
> > use relative urls and if
> > you put them inside you use the controller
> > framework.  My question is why
> > in the world would someone use struts and then put
> > them outside the WEB-INF
> > file?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Micael
> >
> >
> > At 05:31 AM 4/19/02 -0400, you wrote:
> > >All web containers MUST support files inside
> > WEB-INF by specification.  As
> > >for JSP files, some containers, like Tomcat,
> > considers them controller
> > >component Java classes (servlets) and places them
> > in the WEB-INF/class
> > >directory by default.  Others, like JRun, consider
> > JSPs view components
> > >(they are, if used "correctly") and place them in a
> > "jsp" directory outside
> > >WEB-INF.
> > >
> > >The point is, JSPs should never have executable
> > Java scriplets in them.
> > >Programmatic functionality should consist solely of
> > tags, which hide the
> > >implementation inside WEB-INF.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Victor Hadianto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:18 AM
> > >
> > >On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:20, you wrote:
> > > > Most sample apps have the jsp pages and images
> > outside the
> > > > WEB-INF.  Why?  Isn't it more secure inside?
> > >
> > >Not all web container supports files inside the
> > WEB-INF. Tomcat does.
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RE: Inside WEB-INF or outside WEB-INF? Struts security.

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Thank you for the response, but it is not responsive to the question I 
asked, I think.  My question was:

 Most sample apps have the jsp pages and
 images outside the WEB-INF. Why? Isn't
 it more secure inside?

So, where the servlets are ultimately put is not the question, Mark.  The 
question is why do most sample applications put the jsp pages outside the 
WEB-INF file, even in Tomcat?  That works with Tomcat too.  You can put 
them in either place, but if you do it outside you use relative urls and if 
you put them inside you use the controller framework.  My question is why 
in the world would someone use struts and then put them outside the WEB-INF 
file?

Thanks.

Micael


At 05:31 AM 4/19/02 -0400, you wrote:
>All web containers MUST support files inside WEB-INF by specification.  As
>for JSP files, some containers, like Tomcat, considers them controller
>component Java classes (servlets) and places them in the WEB-INF/class
>directory by default.  Others, like JRun, consider JSPs view components
>(they are, if used "correctly") and place them in a "jsp" directory outside
>WEB-INF.
>
>The point is, JSPs should never have executable Java scriplets in them.
>Programmatic functionality should consist solely of tags, which hide the
>implementation inside WEB-INF.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Victor Hadianto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:18 AM
>
>On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:20, you wrote:
> > Most sample apps have the jsp pages and images outside the
> > WEB-INF.  Why?  Isn't it more secure inside?
>
>Not all web container supports files inside the WEB-INF. Tomcat does.
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Inside WEB-INF or ourside WEB-INF? Struts security.

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Most sample apps have the jsp pages and images outside the 
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POI - Getting EOF Exception Openning poll.war example from struts site

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myCart discontinued? Any old copies out there?

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According to my browser, the myCart has been taken over by Microsoft and 
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Example App for Struts?

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Is there an example application for struts that is recommended as a 
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SWF Flash File Arrays: A PUZZLER

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TWIMC:

I am going to serve template SWF (Flash) html files which will reference a 
template SWF file, template.swf which in turn will hold an array of SWF 
photo images, photo1.swf, photo2.swf.  The template SWF file will reference 
the photo SWF files directly, because they will be in the same 
directory.  How would this work with the struts Model 2 archecture?  I will 
need no indirection or fancy stuff once the client has the template.swf on 
the Flash plugin.  I will need indirection, forwarding, etc. for other 
parts of the application.  The reference is set by the Flash file which is 
dictated by the Macromedia Flash IDE.  Accordingly, I cannot use the struts 
tags or a relative url in the template.swf to reference the photoX.swf 
images in the template.swf.

template.swf
photo1.swf
photo2.swf

What to do to have the template.swf reference the photos?

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RE: Which Version of Struts to Use??

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

You have no idea how much I really need your sort of help, Mark.  What is: 
a gorrant?

At 07:08 AM 4/15/02 -0400, you wrote:
>In the world of software, "standard" and "stable" are two very different
>things and if you don't know enough to articulate the difference between
>them, you had better find another line of work and not expect people who do
>know the difference to read your mind.
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:26 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Fwd: Which Version of Struts to Use??
>
>
>Some genius could not figure out what I meant by the "standard
>release".  Let me change that to "stable release".  What I am trying to
>find out is whether the new features being put into the "beta" will likely
>be stable by August-September.  I would have thought that was obvious, but
>I guess not.
>
>If anyone has a reasonable guestimate, I would greatly appreciate
>that.  Thanks,
>
>Micael
>
>
> >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:14:42 -0700
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Which Version of Struts to Use???
> >
> >TWIMC:
> >
> >We are about to build a commercial site using struts.  Should we start
> >with beta rather than the standard release?  The eta for the site is
> >August-September.  The reason I ask is that struts seems to be in the
> >middle of some major functionality shifts.
> >
> >Thanks of any assistance.
> >
> >Micael
>
>
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RE: Soap and Struts

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You have a wonderful habit, Mark, of not answering peoples' questions that 
seem simplistic to you, but instead exercising your limpid wit.  If your 
ego must be massaged with inanities shot toward people new to 
"this-and-that", try doing it off line?  Thanks.  I personally do not like 
to be around "smart-asses".  Thanks again.

At 07:17 AM 4/15/02 -0400, you wrote:
>A sodium hydroxide-based cleaning agent; most social situations.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Yugandhar_Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 3:27 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: Soap and Struts
>
>
>Hi,
>Cud u please tell me what a SOAP is and where is it helpful//
>
>Thanks in advance
>Yug
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RE: Which Version of Struts to Use??

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Thanks Niall, much appreciated.

At 04:58 PM 4/14/02 +0100, you wrote:
>I would go with 1.1 for the following reasons:
>
>1) Many of the features being added to 1.1 have been around for quite a long
>time as contributor extensions (such as Tiles, Validator, Indexed tags) and
>are therefore already stable and some changes are just organisational - i.e.
>moving BeanUtils, Collections and Digester to the commons project.
>
>2) The quality of code in this project from the committers, IMHO, is high
>(we started developing last year with version 1.0-beta and had no real
>problems).
>
>3) The committers are pretty responsive in fixing bugs, so I believe any
>serious problems you encountered would be sorted quickly.
>
>4) Its an open source project which gives two benefits a) there are many
>eyes looking at it so if you had a problem, there is a good chance someone
>else will also have had it and have a solution and b) if they don't fix it,
>you can always sort it out yourself.
>
>5) I don't know what the timescale is for a 1.1 stable release, but from the
>1.0 experience, I would be surprised if it wasn't released by August/Sept -
>maybe one of the committers could give a more concrete opinion on this.
>
>Having said all that were still using 1.0, but thats because we have a whole
>load of code in and working with that version and haven't looked at
>migrating yet. I think a key question for you though is, how important are
>the new features for you? There is some pretty good stuff in 1.1 that I
>wouldn't want to miss out on if I was starting now - the key things we found
>lacking in 1.0 and there now in 1.1.
>
>Niall
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 14 April 2002 05:26
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Fwd: Which Version of Struts to Use??
> >
> >
> > Some genius could not figure out what I meant by the "standard
> > release".  Let me change that to "stable release".  What I am trying to
> > find out is whether the new features being put into the "beta"
> > will likely
> > be stable by August-September.  I would have thought that was
> > obvious, but
> > I guess not.
> >
> > If anyone has a reasonable guestimate, I would greatly appreciate
> > that.  Thanks,
> >
> > Micael
> >
> >
> > >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:14:42 -0700
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Which Version of Struts to Use???
> > >
> > >TWIMC:
> > >
> > >We are about to build a commercial site using struts.  Should we start
> > >with beta rather than the standard release?  The eta for the site is
> > >August-September.  The reason I ask is that struts seems to be in the
> > >middle of some major functionality shifts.
> > >
> > >Thanks of any assistance.
> > >
> > >Micael
> >
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Fwd: Which Version of Struts to Use??

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Some genius could not figure out what I meant by the "standard 
release".  Let me change that to "stable release".  What I am trying to 
find out is whether the new features being put into the "beta" will likely 
be stable by August-September.  I would have thought that was obvious, but 
I guess not.

If anyone has a reasonable guestimate, I would greatly appreciate 
that.  Thanks,

Micael


>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:14:42 -0700
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Which Version of Struts to Use???
>
>TWIMC:
>
>We are about to build a commercial site using struts.  Should we start 
>with beta rather than the standard release?  The eta for the site is 
>August-September.  The reason I ask is that struts seems to be in the 
>middle of some major functionality shifts.
>
>Thanks of any assistance.
>
>Micael



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RE: Which Version of Struts to Use???

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

Thanks, Mark.

At 11:21 AM 4/13/02 -0400, you wrote:
>What standard release?
>
>-Original Message-
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>
>TWIMC:
>
>We are about to build a commercial site using struts.  Should we start with
>beta rather than the standard release?  The eta for the site is
>August-September.  The reason I ask is that struts seems to be in the
>middle of some major functionality shifts.
>
>Thanks of any assistance.
>
>Micael
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Which Version of Struts to Use???

[Micael Padraig Og mac Grene]

TWIMC:

We are about to build a commercial site using struts.  Should we start with 
beta rather than the standard release?  The eta for the site is 
August-September.  The reason I ask is that struts seems to be in the 
middle of some major functionality shifts.

Thanks of any assistance.

Micael



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