RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
i dont know it that well but from the documentation below you have to modify
the browsers proxy settings so that the proxy server is pointing to
Localhost and the port used is 8000. 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnduwon/htm
l/d5wast_2.asp

you should be able to make this change, even without local admin rights...

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> 
> 
> Sean, downloaded this software and set it up. Its pretty 
> simple to use.
> Getting a problem though. Its not able to find the link to my 
> application.
> It talks about changing the proxy server of IE. However i 
> don't have the
> rights to do that on my system. Do you have any ideas on this?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM
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> Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> 
> 
> sorry, should point out that its blatantly not open source.  but it is
> free-ish
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sean Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 05 March 2003 19:52
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> > Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> > 
> > 
> > dont flame me for this, but you could try micro$ofts web 
> > appliaction stress
> > test tool. it only *runs* on NT x but u can use it to stress 
> > anything i
> > think.. and apparently its pretty simple to use.
> > 
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
> > hnet/itsolutio
> > ns/intranet/downloads/webstres.asp
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> > > Sent: 05 March 2003 19:45
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> > > Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Does JMeter fit the bill?  
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > > Hi,
> > > > Is there some open source tool or technique 
> that I can use to
> > > > simulate concurrent users for our application? I 
> especially want 
> > > > to test our
> > > > connection pooling implementation.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
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RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
sorry, should point out that its blatantly not open source.  but it is
free-ish

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> Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> 
> 
> dont flame me for this, but you could try micro$ofts web 
> appliaction stress
> test tool. it only *runs* on NT x but u can use it to stress 
> anything i
> think.. and apparently its pretty simple to use.
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
> hnet/itsolutio
> ns/intranet/downloads/webstres.asp
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Krygowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 05 March 2003 19:45
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> > 
> > 
> > Does JMeter fit the bill?  
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > >   Is there some open source tool or technique that I can use to
> > > simulate concurrent users for our application? I especially want 
> > > to test our
> > > connection pooling implementation.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gaurav
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RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
dont flame me for this, but you could try micro$ofts web appliaction stress
test tool. it only *runs* on NT x but u can use it to stress anything i
think.. and apparently its pretty simple to use.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/itsolutio
ns/intranet/downloads/webstres.asp

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> Sent: 05 March 2003 19:45
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> Subject: RE: [OT] Simulating Concurrent Users
> 
> 
> Does JMeter fit the bill?  
> http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html
> 
> 
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> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Is there some open source tool or technique that I can use to
> > simulate concurrent users for our application? I especially want 
> > to test our
> > connection pooling implementation.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Gaurav
> > 
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RE: [OT] RE: Modern Computing (was RE: [OT] Ancient computing)

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
centrino is out soon of course, so you get longer battery life and built in
wireless.

http://www.intel.com/products/mobiletechnology/index.htm?iid=Homepage+Highli
ght_030127a&

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [OT] RE: Modern Computing (was RE: [OT] Ancient computing)
> 
> 
> I love my laptop, well, I shouldn't call it a laptop-- more 
> properly termed a mobile desktop since the beautiful 16" 
> screen leaves you with about 2 hours of battery life at a 
> given sitting (I leave it plugged in all the time).  For the 
> mobile P4 processor, I've been extremely happy with the 
> performance, apps load up in a flash.  Granted you have to do 
> some tweaking to remove all of the pre-installed Sony applications.
>  
> The screen though is like a billboard, just amazing, running 
> at 1280x1024, everything is crisp and colorful.  Make sure 
> you get some kind of service coverage, the batteries for it 
> will run you about 400 dollars US.
>  
> GET ONE!
>  
> -Original Message- 
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> 
> 
> 
>   I've been thinking about those 16" Sonys, how are they 
> size-wise WRT
>   portability?  How is the 'desktop' version of the P4 
> when running on
>   battery?
>   
>   --
>   Voytek Jarnot
>   Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
>   
>   
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>   >
>   >
>   > I have:
>   > Sony GRV550 P4 2.4GHz Laptop w/ 512 MB DDR and 16" 
> Screen w/ XP Pro
>   > Server P4 1.5GHz 1GB RDRAM, 15" LCD, 200 GB HD with 8MB
>   > cache, Red Hat 8
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>   >   Subject: Modern Computing (was RE: [OT] Ancient 
> computing)
>   >  
>   >  
>   >
>   >   OK, enough reminising ... what do people currently have?
>   >  
>   >   I have a Mac tower with dual 550MHz G4 CPUs, 1.5Gb of
>   > RAM and the 22" CinemaDisplay flat panel monitor. I run Mac
>   > OS X 10.2.4 on it. And, it almost goes without saying 
> that, I love it.
>   >  
>   >   Simon
>   >  
>   >   >-Original Message-
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>   >   >
>   >   >Playing the Space shuttle games on the Commodore 64
>   > was just awesome!
>   >   >
>   >   >-Original Message-
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>   >   >> -Original Message-
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>   >   >> First family computer I remember: 8080
>   >   >>
>   >   >> First that I used: Atari or Commodore64 with 
> BASIC (hooked it
>   >   >> to the TV,
>   >   >> screen was blue with white letters 
> [forboadings of M$??],
>   >   >> eventually had
>   >   >> a 5 1/4 disk drive)
>   >   >
>   >   >First computer used: Commodore PET (was that what they
>   > were called?)
>   >   >First computer used extensively: Radio Shack TRS-80
>   >   >First computer that awed me: Commodore 64
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RE: Modern Computing (was RE: [OT] Ancient computing)

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
yeah but i only have the ZX81  ;)


>Joel Wickard wrote:
>
>I still have an IBM system23 with 8" or 10" (haven't looked at them 
>lately )
>floppies.

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> 
> Sean Chambers wrote:
> 
> >i still have the zx81
> >
> >  
> >
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> >>
> >>OK, enough reminising ... what do people currently have?
> >>
> >>I have a Mac tower with dual 550MHz G4 CPUs, 1.5Gb of RAM and 
> >>the 22" CinemaDisplay flat panel monitor. I run Mac OS X 
> >>10.2.4 on it. And, it almost goes without saying that, I love it.
> >>
> >>Simon
> >>
> >>
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> >>>>First family computer I remember: 8080
> >>>>
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> >>>>to the TV, 
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RE: Modern Computing (was RE: [OT] Ancient computing)

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
i still have the zx81

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> 
> OK, enough reminising ... what do people currently have?
> 
> I have a Mac tower with dual 550MHz G4 CPUs, 1.5Gb of RAM and 
> the 22" CinemaDisplay flat panel monitor. I run Mac OS X 
> 10.2.4 on it. And, it almost goes without saying that, I love it.
> 
> Simon
> 
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> >
> >Playing the Space shuttle games on the Commodore 64 was just awesome!
> >
> >-Original Message-
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> >Sent: 05 March, 2003 18:10
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> >Subject: RE: [OT] Ancient computing
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> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Tim Shadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> First family computer I remember: 8080
> >> 
> >> First that I used: Atari or Commodore64 with BASIC (hooked it 
> >> to the TV, 
> >> screen was blue with white letters [forboadings of M$??], 
> >> eventually had 
> >> a 5 1/4 disk drive)
> >
> >First computer used: Commodore PET (was that what they were called?)
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RE: [OT] Don't beat on James! (was RE: [OT] JavaScript: ActionForm Does Not Contain Dynamically Set Data)

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Chambers
my ZX81 had a 16k RAM pack.

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> 
> 
> You know it was! The ZX81 was the first machine I owned. The 
> first machinesI used were a ZX80 and an Acorn Atom at our 
> school computer club.
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> >
> >Wossit a ZX81 perchance?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
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> >
> >
> >My first two computers didn't even have floppy drives ... 300 
> >baud tape and
> >1024 bytes of memory!
> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gladly  only I had you figured as an old guy!
> >>>
> >>> Simon "Programmed in RPG/400 once and now regret it" Chappell
> >>>
> >>
> >>Well, I'm old to the computer industry, but only a year 
> with Struts...
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RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)

2003-03-03 Thread Sean Chambers
who are ginger and mary anne?

> -Original Message-
> From: Jaye Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 March 2003 01:43
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
> 
> 
> First off...I'd take Mary Ann any day. Second I love IntelliJ. Does it
> make me a better programmer...I think it probably does: alt-enter,
> refactoring, multiple paste buffers, optimizing imports, 
> finding usages,
> ok CVS support and a pretty decent debugger. I know it makes me a
> happier programmer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:57 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
> 
> Wow, this argument is about as winnable as a 'Ginger or Mary Anne' 
> discussion
> and not nearly as interesting. Although the diatribes about 
> productivity are
> kinda humorous, given the context ;)
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 04:42  PM, Assenza, Chris wrote:
> 
> > If one were to make a value judgement such as "better" then 
> one would
> > require a common basis for comparison.  I would be safe in assuming 
> > that not
> > everyone here is analyzing this question based on a common frame of
> > reference, in fact I bet we all have slightly different concepts of 
> > who or
> > what makes a better programmer.
> >
> > Therefore, the first question to ask must instead be: "What does it 
> > mean to
> > be a good programmer?" or even: "What is a good programmer."  For 
> > argument's
> > sake, as part of our answer to that question we say that 
> one trait of 
> > a good
> > programmer is thorough knowledge (or perhaps memorization) of a 
> > syntax.  If
> > that is true, then someone who uses a text editor is more 
> likely to be
> > considered a better programmer.
> >
> > However, it can be argued that syntax memorization is not so 
> > all-important.
> > For example, there are many excellent writers and thinkers 
> who cannot 
> > spell
> > worth a dime, yet they work with words all day long.  As such, the
> > programmer who uses an IDE may well be a "better" programmer in the 
> > sense
> > that A) the IDE supplements their knowledge of the syntax and B) 
> > separates
> > the programmer from a requirement to memorize syntax and instead 
> > allows them
> > to focus on what they're supposed to be doing: engineering software 
> > through
> > solid design principles, etc.
> >
> > Ultimately, I think the answer is completely subjective and depends 
> > wholly
> > on what one means by "better" programmer. Certainly someone 
> who lives 
> > in an
> > IDE cannot jump into Textpad and be expected to be nearly as 
> > productive, but
> > that does not necessarily diminish their core aptitude as a
> programmer!
> >
> > All that being said, if you don't use Textpad you're a n00b! =)
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:58 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
> >
> >
> > No. I very specifically said that the better programmers 
> CAN use text
> > editors and command-line tools. This does not mean that 
> they have to, 
> > only
> > that they COULD use them if they choose to. I now use the 
> Eclipse IDE 
> > for
> > alot of my personal programming because it is like a text 
> editor that 
> > wants
> > to be helpful. I like the wrappers that it gives me for the 
> compiles 
> > and
> > junit tests, but that it keeps out of the way for the 
> actual editing 
> > if I
> > don't invoke any of the "helpful" intelli-wotsits.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Chen, Gin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:49 PM
> >> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> >> Subject: RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
> >>
> >>
> >> I think your confusing personal perference with programming skill.
> >> Thats like saying that Ted drink Sprite when most of the
> >> better programmers
> >> drinks Mountain Dew.
> >> -Tim
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:38 PM
> >> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> >> Subject: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?)
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, my primary point was text editor usage and
> >> programmer ability.
> >>
> >> It is my personal observation that the better programmers use
> >> text editors.
> >> (vi or emacs or jedit or vim ... I don't care ... that's not
> >> the argument
> >> here). I'm not quite saying that IDEs are bad, although 
> I'm certainly
> >> tempted to say that some days, but programmers who CAN program
> >> with text
> >> editors and command-line tools are orders of magnitude better
> >> than those who
> >> can't. You are more than welcome to tell me that you believe
> >> t

RE: Server detection of Javascript enabled?

2003-02-13 Thread Sean Chambers
It doesnt really get round the problem of not using javascript on teh
client; but perhaps a better way to do this is to interrogate the DOM.  If
you use one of teh standards objects like document.image it returns a
boolean showing whther or not javascript is installed.  In addition you
could explicitly test for the existence of an object from a specific
version, so you could tell which version of js was being used.

but as i say, both of these involve using js on the client. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 13 February 2003 21:38
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Server detection of Javascript enabled?


No. HTTP headers contain information about the request to the server.
Unfortunately none of those headers have information about JavaScript.

The only way that I could see you being able to do this is to send a simple
page with JavaScript to the client and have the JavaScript forward to a
separate page on your server. If your server receives the request, you know
that JavaScript is enabled.

Kludgy and heavy, but that's all I got.

-= J

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> To: Struts User
> Subject: Server detection of Javascript enabled?
> 
> 
> Without using Javascript on the client, can the server detect 
> if the client
> has Javascript enabled?  Is there something in the HTTP 
> request header that
> indicates this?
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RE: AW: easy struts 0.6.3 ?

2003-02-05 Thread Sean Chambers
translation:
thank you for this useful/meaningful? message  
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Emmanuel Boudrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 05 February 2003 13:57
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: AW: easy struts 0.6.3 ?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can speak french, I can speak english, I can understand 
> spanish...but german, I can't ;)
> 
> 
> vielen Dank für diese aussagekräftige Nachricht
>  > in french >
> merci beaucoup pour cette information valable
> 
> 
> BTW: I write a response in french for Alex and by mistake I 
> send it to struts-user list, sorry.
> 
> -emmanuel
> 
>   --- "Hirschmann, Bernhard" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > 
> > emmanuel,
> > 
> > vielen Dank für diese aussagekräftige Nachricht.
> > 
> > Freundliche Grüße,
> > Bernhard Hirschmann
> > 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Emmanuel Boudrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Februar 2003 14:24
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Betreff: Re: easy struts 0.6.3 ?
> > 
> > 
> > HEllo Alex,
> > 
> > J'imagine que c'est à propos du bug avec les projets Tomcat 
> Sysdeo, si oui
> > alors il est corrigé
> > dans CVS mais j'ai pas eu le temps de faire une release 
> (j'ai pas CVS au
> > boulot).
> > 
> > Voici un pointeur vers le fichier concerné :
> > 
> > 
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/easystruts/easystruts-plugin/
> src/org/easystruts/eclipse/wizards/NewStrutsSupportWizardPage.java
> 
> a+
> -emmanuel
> 
> 
>  --- alexj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Hi  anybody know when the easy
> struts 0.6.3 plug in for
> eclipse 
> > will be released ?
> > Or anybody know in the source code where to update the add easy struts
> > support ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > <--
> > Alexandre Jaquet
> > ->
> > 
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