[OT] RE: validate() method is ActionForm

2003-02-14 Thread Sundar Narasimhan
>Any more personal attacks like this, or the previous response's profanity,
>are likely to get you banned -- then you won't have to worry about
>questions you think are below your dignity to answer politely.
>Craig McClanahan

Thank you Craig. 

I think this list is great, and now that I'm slowly getting struts --
this week has been much better than last, I'm able to see it's
power. I still haven't played with DynaAction forms, but if they can
reduce the proliferation of forms classes I seem to have now.. more
power to struts. Thank you (and to the rest of the list) for the
patience w/ which you answer -- it makes the list and struts itself
valuable.

I normally wouldn't say this, but the author posted about whether or
not a form's fields would be filled before validate() is called. My
reaction was the same initially as several others on this
list.. i.e. hmm.. hasn't he read the manual? I then recalled my
frustrations in those early days w/ struts (just a few days
back).. and I remember being unclear about several things. "what does
the 'struts' framework do behind your back to make your life easy for
you" would be a great topic in the documentation.. it sort of says
that .. but that information is mixed in w/discussions about MVC2, and
then other details .. so a 'just what the code does in 1.1b2' section
would be great. Thankfully, I finally got my source debugger to work
with it, so I've been setting breakpoints and learning. struts is
actually quite simple -- once you see what it's doing. Just a
suggestion. 
ps. when things work .. people don't ask such questions. It's when you
read about bean:define or nested:text and then try it, and it throws
an exception that shakes your mental models, that you need to map,
cross-check your understanding with reality again.

Thanks.

 

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[OT] RE: validate() method is ActionForm

2003-02-13 Thread Rabih Yazbeck
Bravo Mr Smart man... It is much easier for you to just ignore the
question, instead of attack people .. and everyone will be happy ..

-Original Message-
From: James Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 13 February 2003 20:42
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: validate() method is ActionForm

I think I can safely say that that is the dumbest question I have ever
seen on this list.

And that's saying something.

> -Original Message-
> From: atta ur rehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: struts users mailing list
> Subject: validate() method is ActionForm
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Struts 1.0.2.
> 
> Are form properties updated before the validate() method is called?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> ATTA

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[OT] RE: validate() method is ActionForm

2003-02-13 Thread Pani, Gourav
i agree that he should have read the manual and he should have searched the
web and blah...  but by the same measure, you could ignore his question if
it irritated you.  sometimes i have asked questions here and not gotten any
responses.  i don't know whether my questions are dumb or just off the wall.
but attacking people like this, you are going to deter people from asking
questions, which is what, i suppose, this forum is for.  i can assure you
there are things you don't know and might ask that someone somewhere out
there might consider to be completely absurd and off the wall.

having said that, i still think we should all try to read the API before
posing questions.  let's all keep up the good work.




-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:50 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: validate() method is ActionForm


Normally someone might say "now now, that's not how we treat
newbies".but it won't be me this time.

How is it that you managed to be working on a struts application, and
subscribed to this list, and ask THAT kind of question without (at least)
opening a browser and searching the web or reading the user
guide...or.ORrunning the examples that ship with the
distribution

Dude, here's your sign!

--
James Mitchell





- Original Message -
From: "James Childers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: validate() method is ActionForm


I think I can safely say that that is the dumbest question I have ever seen
on this list.

And that's saying something.

> -Original Message-
> From: atta ur rehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: struts users mailing list
> Subject: validate() method is ActionForm
>
> Dear all,
>
> Struts 1.0.2.
>
> Are form properties updated before the validate() method is called?
>
> Regards,
>
> ATTA

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