RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
I send elements of the ResultSet to a String[] and pass it to the
presentation tier.

Mark

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From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:43 PM

You can't store a ResultSet in an HttpSession because it's not Serializable.
If you can't fit the result into memory, I would create an Iterator
implementation that loops over a ResultSet and pass that to the presentation
tier (Servlet or JSP) for rendering.  That way you isolate the data
retrieval details (ie. ResultSet) from the next layer.



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Re: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread David Graham
--- Pat Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I have a requirement to cater for a large number of results returned to
> the 
> presentation tier. I've taken a quick look into the Value List Handler 
> Design pattern 
>
(http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/ValueListHandler.html).
> 
> I do agree it offers some advantages but in my opinion it doesn't
> satisfy 
> its goal. From the sample code it appears that the SQL Resultset is 
> completely loaded and represented as a list of Transfer Objects. When 
> dealing with a large result this will have a negative impact on
> performance 
> as it must create a TO for each record.
> 
> I could make some changes to increase performance i.e.
> 
> Store the ResulSet as a member of the ValueListHandler Object and only
> load 
> the data from the resultset as and when i need it. If i store the 
> ValueListHandler in HttpSession i got to ensure i close all connections 
> before disposing of it, other wise i could max out on cursors.

You can't store a ResultSet in an HttpSession because it's not
Serializable.  If you can't fit the result into memory, I would create an
Iterator implementation that loops over a ResultSet and pass that to the
presentation tier (Servlet or JSP) for rendering.  That way you isolate
the data retrieval details (ie. ResultSet) from the next layer.

David

> 
> 
> Anyone got any ideas/suggestion as to how best to implement such 
> functionality?
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Re: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Erik Price


Pat Quinn wrote:

where do you keep the initial resultset? Or do you execute the query 
each time the user requests to page?

What would be nice if i could execute an sql statement which would give 
me a sub set of the results as contolled by a start and end position i 
specify e.g.

Select code, desc from products where ROW_NUM >= 1 and ROW_NUM <= 10
Some databases let you specify a LIMIT clause, which limits the results 
to whatever you specify, and an OFFSET clause, which starts the results 
at the indicated offset.  Using these you can achieve an elegant subset 
of results based on start and end position (and it is IMHO the best way 
to implement the kind of feature you're describing).

Erik

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Re: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Erik Price


Paananen, Tero wrote:


The disadvantage of this approach is that you'll be
tieing your implementation to a specific db vendor
at that point. DB vendors implement such functionality
differently, from what I've seen.
Yep.

I've yet to see an application that does NOT target a
specific db though. YMMV.
There's the rub -- the language and deployment environments are for the 
most part pretty good at cross-platformedness.  The DBs have a ways to go.

:(



Erik

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RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Graham Lounder
Have you checked out OJB yet?  I use google like paging in all my
applications and OJB lets me use any database I want.  Its worth a look at
any rate.

http://db.apache.org/ojb

Cheers,
Graham



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> Some databases let you specify a LIMIT clause, which limits
> the results
> to whatever you specify, and an OFFSET clause, which starts
> the results
> at the indicated offset.  Using these you can achieve an
> elegant subset
> of results based on start and end position (and it is IMHO
> the best way
> to implement the kind of feature you're describing).

The disadvantage of this approach is that you'll be
tieing your implementation to a specific db vendor
at that point. DB vendors implement such functionality
differently, from what I've seen.

I've yet to see an application that does NOT target a
specific db though. YMMV.

-TPP

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Re: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Quinn
 hows my SQL not great me thinks its got to be something to do with 
rownum in my case as its an oracle database.




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Pat Quinn wrote:

where do you keep the initial resultset? Or do you execute the query each 
time the user requests to page?

What would be nice if i could execute an sql statement which would give me 
a sub set of the results as contolled by a start and end position i 
specify e.g.

Select code, desc from products where ROW_NUM >= 1 and ROW_NUM <= 10
Some databases let you specify a LIMIT clause, which limits the results to 
whatever you specify, and an OFFSET clause, which starts the results at the 
indicated offset.  Using these you can achieve an elegant subset of results 
based on start and end position (and it is IMHO the best way to implement 
the kind of feature you're describing).

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RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread David Graham
--- Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I send elements of the ResultSet to a String[] and pass it to the
> presentation tier.

The problem was that the ResultSet couldn't fit in memory so it had to be
displayed as it was read.  Storing in a String[] is no better than using
DTOs in this situation.

David

> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:43 PM
> 
> You can't store a ResultSet in an HttpSession because it's not
> Serializable.
> If you can't fit the result into memory, I would create an Iterator
> implementation that loops over a ResultSet and pass that to the
> presentation
> tier (Servlet or JSP) for rendering.  That way you isolate the data
> retrieval details (ie. ResultSet) from the next layer.
> 
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Re: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Ashish Kulkarni
Hi,

u can think of using cachedrowset, it is similar to
resultset but it caches the data 
what i have done is the following, i run a SQl querry
get the resultset and then using this resultset
populat a cachedrowset and pass it to jsp (
presentation layer) and then i can use cursor to
scroll in cachedrowset
i guess u can get more info about cachedrowset n
google and if u want how to do scrolling in jsp using
cachedrowset
http://kulkarni_ash.tripod.com/howto/jsptaglib-howto.html
Ashish
--- Pat Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I have a requirement to cater for a large number of
> results returned to the 
> presentation tier. I've taken a quick look into the
> Value List Handler 
> Design pattern 
>
(http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/ValueListHandler.html).
> 
> I do agree it offers some advantages but in my
> opinion it doesn't satisfy 
> its goal. From the sample code it appears that the
> SQL Resultset is 
> completely loaded and represented as a list of
> Transfer Objects. When 
> dealing with a large result this will have a
> negative impact on performance 
> as it must create a TO for each record.
> 
> I could make some changes to increase performance
> i.e.
> 
> Store the ResulSet as a member of the
> ValueListHandler Object and only load 
> the data from the resultset as and when i need it.
> If i store the 
> ValueListHandler in HttpSession i got to ensure i
> close all connections 
> before disposing of it, other wise i could max out
> on cursors.
> 
> 
> Anyone got any ideas/suggestion as to how best to
> implement such 
> functionality?
> 
>
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RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Seyhan BASMACI (Internet Yazilimlari Yetkilisi)
if you are using oracle database , 

you can try such kind of query 


to get pages ordered based on some fields 

select t.* 
 from (select ordered_e.*,rownum as rowno 
from (  select e.* 
  from employee e 
order by name  ) ordered_e ) t
where t.rowno between :b1 and :b2




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Subject: RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design
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--- Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I send elements of the ResultSet to a String[] and pass it to the
> presentation tier.

The problem was that the ResultSet couldn't fit in memory so it had to be
displayed as it was read.  Storing in a String[] is no better than using
DTOs in this situation.

David

> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:43 PM
> 
> You can't store a ResultSet in an HttpSession because it's not
> Serializable.
> If you can't fit the result into memory, I would create an Iterator
> implementation that loops over a ResultSet and pass that to the
> presentation
> tier (Servlet or JSP) for rendering.  That way you isolate the data
> retrieval details (ie. ResultSet) from the next layer.
> 
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RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Paananen, Tero
> Some databases let you specify a LIMIT clause, which limits 
> the results 
> to whatever you specify, and an OFFSET clause, which starts 
> the results 
> at the indicated offset.  Using these you can achieve an 
> elegant subset 
> of results based on start and end position (and it is IMHO 
> the best way 
> to implement the kind of feature you're describing).

The disadvantage of this approach is that you'll be
tieing your implementation to a specific db vendor
at that point. DB vendors implement such functionality
differently, from what I've seen.

I've yet to see an application that does NOT target a
specific db though. YMMV.

-TPP

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[OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Quinn
I have a requirement to cater for a large number of results returned to the 
presentation tier. I've taken a quick look into the Value List Handler 
Design pattern 
(http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/ValueListHandler.html).

I do agree it offers some advantages but in my opinion it doesn't satisfy 
its goal. From the sample code it appears that the SQL Resultset is 
completely loaded and represented as a list of Transfer Objects. When 
dealing with a large result this will have a negative impact on performance 
as it must create a TO for each record.

I could make some changes to increase performance i.e.

Store the ResulSet as a member of the ValueListHandler Object and only load 
the data from the resultset as and when i need it. If i store the 
ValueListHandler in HttpSession i got to ensure i close all connections 
before disposing of it, other wise i could max out on cursors.

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functionality?

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RE: [OT] Rendering Large ResultSet - Value List Handler Design Pattern

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Quinn
where do you keep the initial resultset? Or do you execute the query each 
time the user requests to page?

What would be nice if i could execute an sql statement which would give me a 
sub set of the results as contolled by a start and end position i specify 
e.g.

Select code, desc from products where ROW_NUM >= 1 and ROW_NUM <= 10


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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:52:13 -0400

I send elements of the ResultSet to a String[] and pass it to the
presentation tier.
Mark

-Original Message-
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:43 PM
You can't store a ResultSet in an HttpSession because it's not 
Serializable.
If you can't fit the result into memory, I would create an Iterator
implementation that loops over a ResultSet and pass that to the 
presentation
tier (Servlet or JSP) for rendering.  That way you isolate the data
retrieval details (ie. ResultSet) from the next layer.



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