javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: No getter method for property books of bean org.apache.struts.taglib.html.BEAN
Hi, I am trying to generate a drop down using struts in my book.jsp and show a default value there. html:select style=width:225px property=selectedISBN html:optionsCollection property=books value=selectedISBN/ /html:select Gives me error: javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: No getter method for property books of bean org.apache.struts.taglib.html.BEAN Though I have the getters and setters in the form bean. Thanks in advance! (posting under this heading as currently this is my new upcoming error. Thanks! -Sam) - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
RE: Books
Sure thing! It's always good to learn new things when idle, but you seem to need to start from the basics: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Cheers! Mark -Original Message- From: Brian Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:02 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Books I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Check out http://www.javashelf.com/servlet/books?category=struts Includes information on : General Description, Contents, Reviews, About Authors and Price Comparisons ! Good Luck Mike - Original Message - From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:06 AM Subject: RE: Books Sure thing! It's always good to learn new things when idle, but you seem to need to start from the basics: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Cheers! Mark -Original Message- From: Brian Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:02 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Books I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have always had good luck with the Oreilly series. There book Programming Jakarta Struts book has worked well for me. I doesn't so much cover the new features in 1.1, though. I have only skimmed through Struts in Action, but it looks pretty good too. Those two are the top sellers among Struts books so that would be the first direction that I would look. Hope this helps and my condolences on getting laid off. Keith BTW if you don't know about bookpool.com, you can get technology related books from there really cheap. - Original Message - From: Brian Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: Books I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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u can refer Programming jakarta struts by chuck cavaness , it is really very good book. - Original Message - From: Brian Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Books I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Struts in action by Ted is also considered one of the good books. I have oreilly's book is also good. You can go to amazon site to read the reviews and compare them. Regds Ashwani -Original Message- From: Brian Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:32 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Books I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
books and tutorials
Hello Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz byte - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Try to start from http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/tutorials.html Carlos Llona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz byte - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The Definitive Answer. -Original Message- From: Carlos Llona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:07 PM Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A couple of good books: Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness - published by O'Reilly Struts in Action by Ted Husted - published by Manning (No one book has everything you will need but these two have been helpful to me.) Also go to the Struts site: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/ Read, download, work the tutorials, experiment, ..., try to have fun ... Vince Ventin -Original Message- From: Carlos Llona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: books and tutorials Hello Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz byte - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carlos, definitly Struts is absolutely interesting. It pays back its not so flat learning curve. In the front page of the project you will find books and resources enough to learn. You will find indeed a link to the following page plenty of good Struts stuff: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/books.html I have ordered quite a lot in Amazon and their service is very fine. Welcome and congratulations for your choice, Adolfo. From: Carlos Llona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: books and tutorials Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:07:21 - Hello Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz byte - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So far, I've learned all I need from four sources: 1. _Programming Jakarta Struts_ by Chuck Cavaness, O'Reilly http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jakarta/ 2. The Struts User Guide http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/ 3. The Struts-User mailing list archive http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 4. And finally, read the source -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: books and tutorials http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The Definitive Answer. -Original Message- From: Carlos Llona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:07 PM Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Welcome to struts .. I suggest u , its better to buy a book, u can learn more in books then any other online documents.. best book i felt is, 'Programming Jakarta Struts - Chuck Cavaness'. and u can download struts IDE from http://www.exadel.com its realy very good.. some other interesting link for beginners, http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/lesson1 http://struts.sourceforge.net/projects/strutsdoc/ Happy struts coding .. Regards, virupaksha - Original Message - From: Carlos Llona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:07 AM Subject: books and tutorials Hello Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz byte - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: Carlos Llona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz First port of call -- the Struts site http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/ http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/learning.html http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/books.html http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/examples.html Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: struts books
thx to everyone for their input once again, sorry to have to duplicate the efforts, but it was fun anyways... -Original Message- From: Tin Pham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: struts books I recommend getting 2 books, Manning Struts In Action and O'Reilly Programming Jakarta Struts. Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. I cannot purchase all. Which of these books are still current with the version of struts currently out there? Pls recommend! thx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
struts books
Hi all, Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. I cannot purchase all. Which of these books are still current with the version of struts currently out there? Pls recommend! thx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: struts books
I found Ted Husted's Struts in Action very useful. It has an excellent big picture first few chapters which really get it through to you that Struts is actually not very complicated at all. The devil is in the detail, as always, so the rest of the book is pretty useful as a reference for the nitty gritty details. I found it was pretty up to date for struts 1.1. -- If education is too expensive, try ignorance. On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:05:43 +0200 Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. I cannot purchase all. Which of these books are still current with the version of struts currently out there? Pls recommend! thx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 05:05, Butt, Dudley wrote: Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596003285/ref=pd_sim_books_4/104-4079535-6570309?v=glances=books (Also, not to be a jerk, but a quick searh in the archives books on struts would have given you lots of results). -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i know but i was lazy.. : ) and i also just wanted to make sure and confirm they were the ones everyone still likes : ) -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:24 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts books On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 05:05, Butt, Dudley wrote: Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596003285/ref=pd_sim_books_4/104-4079535-6570309?v=glances=books (Also, not to be a jerk, but a quick searh in the archives books on struts would have given you lots of results). -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: struts books
IMHO, Struts in Action is a much better read. -Original Message- From: Butt, Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 14, 2003 8:08 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts books i know but i was lazy.. : ) and i also just wanted to make sure and confirm they were the ones everyone still likes : ) -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:24 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts books On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 05:05, Butt, Dudley wrote: Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596003285/ref=pd_sim_books_4/104- 4079535-6570309?v=glances=books (Also, not to be a jerk, but a quick searh in the archives books on struts would have given you lots of results). -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: struts books
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 14:03, Yansheng Lin wrote: IMHO, Struts in Action is a much better read. Yea... well my mom can beat up your mom. -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't think so:). But seriously, they are all good books. But I like 'Struts in Action' better 'cause it's a bit more detailed and the structure is more relaxed. -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yea... well my mom can beat up your mom. -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If these Struts books were vectors, it would take about 3 of them to span the knowledge space. On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 14:03, Yansheng Lin wrote: I don't think so:). But seriously, they are all good books. But I like 'Struts in Action' better 'cause it's a bit more detailed and the structure is more relaxed. -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yea... well my mom can beat up your mom. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: struts books
I recommend getting 2 books, Manning Struts In Action and O'Reilly Programming Jakarta Struts. Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Can anyone recommend which of the struts books as listed I should get. I cannot purchase all. Which of these books are still current with the version of struts currently out there? Pls recommend! thx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
struts books
Hi, Just wanted to ask how current the struts books are, as listed on the struts jakarta page, with respect to the latest version of struts??? thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: struts books
1.1b-1, but I'm developing an app right now using 1.1rc1 and still find Chuck Cavaness' Programming Jakarta Struts (O'Reilly 2003) extremely useful. In fact, it's opened on my desk right now. Mark -Original Message- From: Butt, Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:06 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: struts books Hi, Just wanted to ask how current the struts books are, as listed on the struts jakarta page, with respect to the latest version of struts??? thanx NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from any computer. The New Africa Capital Group, its subsidiaries or associates do not accept liability for any personal views expressed in this message. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ted Husted.. Struts in Action.. by far the best of all the books Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I too have been reading Struts in Action for some time now, but at some places the language is too bad...but the errata on manning.com helps ... I have also read O'Reilly Struts, and think undoubtably Struts in Aciton is much much better. Another popular one of the lot is Struts Kick Start Regards, Puneet Agarwal Ext: 1031 Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ... Action with Struts ... Jamesey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmail.com cc: Subject: Re: struts books 03/28/03 07:33 PM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List Ted Husted.. Struts in Action.. by far the best of all the books Butt, Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yo! How is policy/law in that and other use groups - I want to copy a passage from e.g. Husted´s Struts in action to reply/or ask to a struts user. Am i breaking some laws/interests with that? Is there a formal note i have to include when posting. Is it relative to amount of posting - number of lines e.g.? Which law does apply - of my country, the server/company hosting it or international law? THANX Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
struts books - review
Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx.
Re: struts books - review
Arik, If you are a newcomer to Struts, 'Struts in Action' from Manning publishing is a great place to start. It is more of a tutorial, explaining everything in detail, as opposed to assuming that the reader is a Java expert. It has certainly helped me. David R Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx.
RE: struts books - review
I forgot to mention that I'm familiar with struts 1.1b2. I'm looking for a book for advanced users. -Original Message- From: David Rothschadl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:41 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts books - review Arik, If you are a newcomer to Struts, 'Struts in Action' from Manning publishing is a great place to start. It is more of a tutorial, explaining everything in detail, as opposed to assuming that the reader is a Java expert. It has certainly helped me. David R Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David, There are number of books available on struts right now. The O'reilly book does not seem to be up-to-date with latest version of struts. Do you think this book is the best buy. Regards Puneet - Original Message - From: David Rothschadl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: struts books - review Arik, If you are a newcomer to Struts, 'Struts in Action' from Manning publishing is a great place to start. It is more of a tutorial, explaining everything in detail, as opposed to assuming that the reader is a Java expert. It has certainly helped me. David R Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Best Buy doesn't carry any books on Struts, you may want to try Borders or Bookpool.com -Original Message- From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts books - review David, There are number of books available on struts right now. The O'reilly book does not seem to be up-to-date with latest version of struts. Do you think this book is the best buy. Regards Puneet - Original Message - From: David Rothschadl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: struts books - review Arik, If you are a newcomer to Struts, 'Struts in Action' from Manning publishing is a great place to start. It is more of a tutorial, explaining everything in detail, as opposed to assuming that the reader is a Java expert. It has certainly helped me. David R Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Struts in Action is very good. It deals with 1.0.2 and 1.1 as well, and the differences are clearly stated. I highly recommend it. -= J -Original Message- From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts books - review David, There are number of books available on struts right now. The O'reilly book does not seem to be up-to-date with latest version of struts. Do you think this book is the best buy. Regards Puneet - Original Message - From: David Rothschadl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: struts books - review Arik, If you are a newcomer to Struts, 'Struts in Action' from Manning publishing is a great place to start. It is more of a tutorial, explaining everything in detail, as opposed to assuming that the reader is a Java expert. It has certainly helped me. David R Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I just reviewed Struts Kick Start and posted that yesterday to the list, so I think that I can recommend that to you. Sue Spielman's The Struts Framework: Practical Guide for Java Programmers is also good if you are past the newbie stage. I haven't read Ted's book yet (Oh the shame! :-) Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -Original Message- From: Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:01 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts books - review I forgot to mention that I'm familiar with struts 1.1b2. I'm looking for a book for advanced users. -Original Message- From: David Rothschadl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:41 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts books - review Arik, If you are a newcomer to Struts, 'Struts in Action' from Manning publishing is a great place to start. It is more of a tutorial, explaining everything in detail, as opposed to assuming that the reader is a Java expert. It has certainly helped me. David R Arik Levin ( Tikal ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm considering of getting one of Struts books, which one should I get? Thanx. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
You need to buy both. They complement each other. James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens? - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
I've read the Goodwill book a couple of times. If you're not new to struts, it may not be of great value. It will get you up and running, is clearly and succinctly written and has good, though *basic* examples. -Mike Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:07:15 +0200 Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
I actually bought the Goodwill book and returned it a few days later. (It was the only struts book at the store at the time). Many examples failed (Using netbeans for the IDE). The book seemed like it was missing something through the first few chapters. I decided to save my money and get a better book later. -Original Message- From: Butler, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:36 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? The Goodwill book clearly got rushed to market without adequate editorial care. It claims to use 1.1 in the examples, but there are so many serious inconsistencies between the text and examples that 1.1 must have been last-minute addition. -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Michael C. Clark wrote: I've read the Goodwill book a couple of times. If you're not new to struts, it may not be of great value. It will get you up and running, is clearly and succinctly written and has good, though *basic* examples. As far as I can tell, though, this book does not cover Struts 1.1 at all, so if you're looking for information on the latest Struts goodies, this wouldn't be the right book. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Martin Cooper -Mike Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:07:15 +0200 Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
With all due respect to first-hand testimonials :-) I think now may be a good time to point out that all books may, by the time 1.1 is final, have points of invalidity. Writing about beta software is worse than building a project based upon it. The fact of the matter is that each author has done a fine job - and I'd like for us all to recognize that ;-) The sad truth is that things have changed now, and some of the examples might not be as accurate as they once were. Peace :-) Edwards Robert (air0rae) wrote: I actually bought the Goodwill book and returned it a few days later. (It was the only struts book at the store at the time). Many examples failed (Using netbeans for the IDE). The book seemed like it was missing something through the first few chapters. I decided to save my money and get a better book later. -Original Message- From: Butler, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:36 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? The Goodwill book clearly got rushed to market without adequate editorial care. It claims to use 1.1 in the examples, but there are so many serious inconsistencies between the text and examples that 1.1 must have been last-minute addition. -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Michael C. Clark wrote: I've read the Goodwill book a couple of times. If you're not new to struts, it may not be of great value. It will get you up and running, is clearly and succinctly written and has good, though *basic* examples. As far as I can tell, though, this book does not cover Struts 1.1 at all, so if you're looking for information on the latest Struts goodies, this wouldn't be the right book. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Martin Cooper -Mike Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:07:15 +0200 Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- Eddie Bush -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
Struts in Action is published and it rocks. I would like a book that does everything, including exposing all the xml magic, etc. But, Struts in Action is cool. Probably depends a lot on what you want out of a book. I want everything. Many people just want a manual to develop. I cannot develop without knowing what is going on under the hood. Doesn't feel right. Many don't care, however. I would page through them and decide on your own according to your own specification. I solve this problem by buying them all. Micael At 03:36 PM 11/19/2002 -0500, you wrote: The Goodwill book clearly got rushed to market without adequate editorial care. It claims to use 1.1 in the examples, but there are so many serious inconsistencies between the text and examples that 1.1 must have been last-minute addition. -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Michael C. Clark wrote: I've read the Goodwill book a couple of times. If you're not new to struts, it may not be of great value. It will get you up and running, is clearly and succinctly written and has good, though *basic* examples. As far as I can tell, though, this book does not cover Struts 1.1 at all, so if you're looking for information on the latest Struts goodies, this wouldn't be the right book. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Martin Cooper -Mike Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:07:15 +0200 Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
And Love ;-) At 03:51 PM 11/19/2002 -0600, you wrote: With all due respect to first-hand testimonials :-) I think now may be a good time to point out that all books may, by the time 1.1 is final, have points of invalidity. Writing about beta software is worse than building a project based upon it. The fact of the matter is that each author has done a fine job - and I'd like for us all to recognize that ;-) The sad truth is that things have changed now, and some of the examples might not be as accurate as they once were. Peace :-) Edwards Robert (air0rae) wrote: I actually bought the Goodwill book and returned it a few days later. (It was the only struts book at the store at the time). Many examples failed (Using netbeans for the IDE). The book seemed like it was missing something through the first few chapters. I decided to save my money and get a better book later. -Original Message- From: Butler, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:36 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? The Goodwill book clearly got rushed to market without adequate editorial care. It claims to use 1.1 in the examples, but there are so many serious inconsistencies between the text and examples that 1.1 must have been last-minute addition. -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Michael C. Clark wrote: I've read the Goodwill book a couple of times. If you're not new to struts, it may not be of great value. It will get you up and running, is clearly and succinctly written and has good, though *basic* examples. As far as I can tell, though, this book does not cover Struts 1.1 at all, so if you're looking for information on the latest Struts goodies, this wouldn't be the right book. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Martin Cooper -Mike Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:07:15 +0200 Hi all, here is a list of struts books available, without being biased, can anyone tell me which books will be worth buying, and why? I'm not new to struts, although i haven't been using it for a year or so. I need to have a decent book to bring me up to date with the latest struts goodies. Also, preferably with some advanced struts stuff. Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness; Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Struts in Action: Building Web Applications with the Leading Java Framework by Ted Husted, Craig R. McClanahan (Foreword); Paperback Not yet published Date added: November 4, 2002 Mastering Jakarta Strutsby James Goodwill; Paperback This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- Eddie Bush -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained
Re: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
Edwards Robert (air0rae) wrote: I actually bought the Goodwill book and returned it a few days later. (It was the only struts book at the store at the time). Many examples failed (Using netbeans for the IDE). The book seemed like it was missing something through the first few chapters. I decided to save my money and get a better book later. -Original Message- From: Butler, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:36 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? The Goodwill book clearly got rushed to market without adequate editorial care. It claims to use 1.1 in the examples, but there are so many serious inconsistencies between the text and examples that 1.1 must have been last-minute addition. I saw this book in the UK at Digital Art Worlds 9th November 2002. It was definitely rush released. It is was missing the state-of-the-art no dyna beans, no sub application ( ie modules ). Not enough information compared to what we could see from Chuck Cavaness as a TheServerSide.com pre-release. BTW: Is the Chuck's book release in the USA. I enquired in London at the PCBookshop.co.uk and they saw December release, which is just as well. -- Peter Pilgrim ServerSide Java Specialist My on-line resume and for interview videos about myself, J2EE Open Source, Struts and Expresso. || \\=== `` http://www.xenonsoft.demon.co.uk/no-it-striker.html '' -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas?
thanx for all the input guys, I reckon I will probably buy both. Neither of the two books listed in my original email have been published yet, I was just doing my homework so long. But I reckon both seem to be pretty good. Well done to the brave authors!!! I WILL BUY -Original Message- From: Peter A. J. Pilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 5:14 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? Edwards Robert (air0rae) wrote: I actually bought the Goodwill book and returned it a few days later. (It was the only struts book at the store at the time). Many examples failed (Using netbeans for the IDE). The book seemed like it was missing something through the first few chapters. I decided to save my money and get a better book later. -Original Message- From: Butler, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:36 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: which one to buy? Struts books? Any ideas? The Goodwill book clearly got rushed to market without adequate editorial care. It claims to use 1.1 in the examples, but there are so many serious inconsistencies between the text and examples that 1.1 must have been last-minute addition. I saw this book in the UK at Digital Art Worlds 9th November 2002. It was definitely rush released. It is was missing the state-of-the-art no dyna beans, no sub application ( ie modules ). Not enough information compared to what we could see from Chuck Cavaness as a TheServerSide.com pre-release. BTW: Is the Chuck's book release in the USA. I enquired in London at the PCBookshop.co.uk and they saw December release, which is just as well. -- Peter Pilgrim ServerSide Java Specialist My on-line resume and for interview videos about myself, J2EE Open Source, Struts and Expresso. || \\=== `` http://www.xenonsoft.demon.co.uk/no-it-striker.html '' -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: anyone had the chance to evaluate any Struts books?
Buy Chucks Book: O'Reilly Struts I've almost read it, and it's quite good imho. marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi all, I want to buy a good struts manual/book. I see there's a couple on Amazon.com. Any comments as to which ones are good? thx This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: anyone had the chance to evaluate any Struts books?
Why don't u have a look at the Chuck Cavaness book(all chapters for review purpose) hosted attheserverside.com Link is: http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp Happy Reading and exploring... Shalu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
anyone had the chance to evaluate any Struts books?
Hi all, I want to buy a good struts manual/book. I see there's a couple on Amazon.com. Any comments as to which ones are good? thx This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
books preview
Hi, I preordered 3 books about Struts (Chuck, James and Ted) but I 'd like to know if there is a preview to download like Chuck's one? It is really cool to start reading and working with it before they get shipped -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Struts books ??
Professional JSP Site Design from Wrox is good overall, and has chapters on struts. JSP and Tag Libraries for Web Development from New Riders is also quite good and has several chapters on struts. Enjoy! /\/\ark - Original Message - From: Pradeep Sakre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:19 a Subject: Good Struts books ?? Hi there I am new to struts and would like to know if there are any good books which gives me in out content of struts. I checked out the documentation but didn't find it too informative.. A line in reply is kindly appreciated. Regards, Pradeep Sakre. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good Struts books ??
Beginning JSP Web Development and JSP Site Design (both from Wrox) have a few chapters on using struts. - boon -Original Message- From: Pradeep Sakre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:19 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Good Struts books ?? Hi there I am new to struts and would like to know if there are any good books which gives me in out content of struts. I checked out the documentation but didn't find it too informative.. A line in reply is kindly appreciated. Regards, Pradeep Sakre. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good Struts books ??
Hi there I am new to struts and would like to know if there are any good books which gives me in out content of struts. I checked out the documentation but didn't find it too informative.. A line in reply is kindly appreciated. Regards, Pradeep Sakre. **Disclaimer Information contained in this E-MAIL being proprietary to Wipro Limited is 'privileged' and 'confidential' and intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. You are notified that any use, copying or dissemination of the information contained in the E-MAIL in any manner whatsoever is strictly prohibited. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good Struts books ??
There are no books devoted to Struts, yet. Orielly is bringing one out shortly. You can see some chapters from it on theserverside.com There are other books that devote one or two chapters to struts. Do a search on amazon. Rgs Vikram -Original Message- From: Pradeep Sakre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Good Struts books ?? Hi there I am new to struts and would like to know if there are any good books which gives me in out content of struts. I checked out the documentation but didn't find it too informative.. A line in reply is kindly appreciated. Regards, Pradeep Sakre. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good Struts books ??
Look at theserverside.com for chapters on struts. Sanjay L R g GE GTS Senior Systems Analyst GE Appliances Information Technology, User L528550 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (91) 080-652 8333 Extn 1253 -Original Message- From: Pradeep Sakre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Good Struts books ?? Hi there I am new to struts and would like to know if there are any good books which gives me in out content of struts. I checked out the documentation but didn't find it too informative.. A line in reply is kindly appreciated. Regards, Pradeep Sakre. THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good Struts books ??
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672323095/qid=1019736410/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-3917434-1867230 Here's a book on JSP that has some decent info on Struts. Vikram Goyal01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/25/2002 02:48:41 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Good Struts books ?? There are no books devoted to Struts, yet. Orielly is bringing one out shortly. You can see some chapters from it on theserverside.com There are other books that devote one or two chapters to struts. Do a search on amazon. Rgs Vikram -Original Message- From: Pradeep Sakre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Good Struts books ?? Hi there I am new to struts and would like to know if there are any good books which gives me in out content of struts. I checked out the documentation but didn't find it too informative.. A line in reply is kindly appreciated. Regards, Pradeep Sakre. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strut Books
Julia Reynolds wrote: Also, many people who visit this list need ammunition to convince their management to use the struts framework in an upcoming project, so a "Why do I need Struts" section with a compelling case study or two would be a good idea. "Why You Need Struts" is also (now) a good subtitle to Jason Hunter's seminal JSP critique. http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/
RE: Strut Books
Here is some input from someone who started using struts from scratch a week ago. So it might be valuable. In a book on struts, I think it would be really good to emphasize on the 'why' and not only on the 'how'. What I find with a lot of information and examples on the struts site is that there is a lot of information on how to do certain things (with a lot of examples) which is pretty good. But because there is a lack of explaining 'why' things work the way they work, it is not always easy to go beyond functionality that is used in the examples. Simply because the user is not always informed on why the things work the way they work. Martijn Martijn Spronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.columbusgroup.com 604.801.5758 ext. 248 Vancouver + Toronto + Seattle -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 13, 2001 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Strut Books Julia Reynolds wrote: Also, many people who visit this list need ammunition to convince their management to use the struts framework in an upcoming project, so a "Why do I need Struts" section with a compelling case study or two would be a good idea. "Why You Need Struts" is also (now) a good subtitle to Jason Hunter's seminal JSP critique. http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/
RE: Strut Books
Hey, Maybe someone at Jakarta could look into setting up a news group so that my inbox is constantly spammed with useless shit like the following. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Strut Books If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want one for each developer. I would buy the hardback, even! What about it Craig? Julia Spencer Smith wrote: Don't I wish! - Original Message - From: "Marty Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Strut Books Hello, Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ? Thanks, Marty -- In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists. - Eric Hoffer H e a l t h S t r e a m, I n c. Julia Reynolds - Systems Developer 209 10th Ave. South Ste. 450 - Nashville, TN 37203 phone: (615) 301-3220 - fax: (615) 301-3200 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.cmecourses.com
RE: Strut Books
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Rudy Bonefas wrote: Hey, Maybe someone at Jakarta could look into setting up a news group so that my inbox is constantly spammed with useless shit like the following. Apparently, you are not aware that struts-user is well-behaved and doesn't flame.
RE: Strut Books
I'm working on a book about tag libraries that has quite a number of chapters dedicated to Struts. What are the topics you want to be covered with more detail? I'm still working on those chapters to have them more up-to-date! This kind of input would be nice and right in time! :-) Wellington Silva UN/FAO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/03/01 22:16 Subject: Re: Strut Books If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want one for each developer. I would buy the hardback, even! What about it Craig? Julia Spencer Smith wrote: Don't I wish! - Original Message - From: "Marty Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Strut Books Hello, Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ? Thanks, Marty -- In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists. - Eric Hoffer H e a l t h S t r e a m, I n c. Julia Reynolds - Systems Developer 209 10th Ave. South Ste. 450 - Nashville, TN 37203 phone: (615) 301-3220 - fax: (615) 301-3200 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.cmecourses.com
Re: Strut Books
Are you including the new Taglibs JDBC tag set (which works well with Struts, among other frameworks)? "Lacerda, Wellington (AFIS)" wrote: I'm working on a book about tag libraries that has quite a number of chapters dedicated to Struts. What are the topics you want to be covered with more detail? I'm still working on those chapters to have them more up-to-date! This kind of input would be nice and right in time! :-) Wellington Silva UN/FAO
Strut Books
Hello, Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ? Thanks, Marty
Re: Strut Books
Don't I wish! - Original Message - From: "Marty Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Strut Books Hello, Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ? Thanks, Marty
Re: Strut Books
If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want one for each developer. I would buy the hardback, even! What about it Craig? Julia Spencer Smith wrote: Don't I wish! - Original Message - From: "Marty Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Strut Books Hello, Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ? Thanks, Marty -- In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists. - Eric Hoffer H e a l t h S t r e a m, I n c. Julia Reynolds - Systems Developer 209 10th Ave. South Ste. 450 - Nashville, TN 37203 phone: (615) 301-3220 - fax: (615) 301-3200 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.cmecourses.com
