Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Peter
IMPORTANT? Not for me sorry!

Mick Knutson wrote:
 
 I have posted this before, and I still am trying to
 understand the best way
 to approach this.
 
 I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle
 currently. But I also have
 larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I
 need to be
 internationalized just like my labels. I am
 wondering what the best way to
 do this is?
 I just want to know what other people are doing that
 is easy on maintenance.
 
 
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RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Andrew Hill
What! Can you not see that the very fate of human civilisation itself
depends on it? Open your eyes man!

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IMPORTANT? Not for me sorry!

Mick Knutson wrote:

 I have posted this before, and I still am trying to
 understand the best way
 to approach this.

 I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle
 currently. But I also have
 larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I
 need to be
 internationalized just like my labels. I am
 wondering what the best way to
 do this is?
 I just want to know what other people are doing that
 is easy on maintenance.


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Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Ted Husted
I haven't had to do this myself, but I believe that when you have entire 
pages that can be maintained separately, people start developing 
separate page trees. The idea being that you can have an Action check 
the locale and fork to one set of ActionForwards or another, based on 
the locale.

-Ted.

Mick Knutson wrote:

I have posted this before, and I still am trying to understand the best way
to approach this.
I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle currently. But I also have
larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I need to be
internationalized just like my labels. I am wondering what the best way to
do this is?
I just want to know what other people are doing that is easy on maintenance.
---
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RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Andrew Hill
I think one approach a lot of people take is to have seperate directories
for each langauge containing the translated pages or page fragments for
those languages. One would I guess use the same action in each case, and
probably the same main template. The whole strutcure stays the same, just
the the appropriate root directory name is determined by the current locale.


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Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2003 17:14
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


I haven't had to do this myself, but I believe that when you have entire
pages that can be maintained separately, people start developing
separate page trees. The idea being that you can have an Action check
the locale and fork to one set of ActionForwards or another, based on
the locale.

-Ted.

Mick Knutson wrote:

 I have posted this before, and I still am trying to understand the best
way
 to approach this.

 I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle currently. But I also have
 larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I need to be
 internationalized just like my labels. I am wondering what the best way to
 do this is?
 I just want to know what other people are doing that is easy on
maintenance.


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RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Paul McCulloch
I use a similair approach, but get fmt:message to deal with selecting the
correct locale for me:

bean:define id=localePage
fmt:message key=some.langauage.specific.page/
/bean:define
jsp:include page=%=localePage% flush=true/

I then define the path to the locale specific html page in the relvant
.properties file.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 October 2003 10:14
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


I haven't had to do this myself, but I believe that when you have entire 
pages that can be maintained separately, people start developing 
separate page trees. The idea being that you can have an Action check 
the locale and fork to one set of ActionForwards or another, based on 
the locale.

-Ted.

Mick Knutson wrote:

 I have posted this before, and I still am trying to understand the best
way
 to approach this.
 
 I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle currently. But I also have
 larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I need to be
 internationalized just like my labels. I am wondering what the best way to
 do this is?
 I just want to know what other people are doing that is easy on
maintenance.
 
 
 ---
 Thanks
 Mick Knutson
 
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Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Mick Knutson
Are you saying that the fmt will get com.baselogic.text by default, but if
the Globals.LOCALE = DE, then fmt will get com.baselogic.text_de?
Or am I missing where fmt gets it's locale information from?


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From: Paul McCulloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:21 AM
Subject: RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


 I use a similair approach, but get fmt:message to deal with selecting the
 correct locale for me:

 bean:define id=localePage
 fmt:message key=some.langauage.specific.page/
 /bean:define
 jsp:include page=%=localePage% flush=true/

 I then define the path to the locale specific html page in the relvant
 .properties file.

 Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 October 2003 10:14
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


 I haven't had to do this myself, but I believe that when you have entire
 pages that can be maintained separately, people start developing
 separate page trees. The idea being that you can have an Action check
 the locale and fork to one set of ActionForwards or another, based on
 the locale.

 -Ted.

 Mick Knutson wrote:

  I have posted this before, and I still am trying to understand the best
 way
  to approach this.
 
  I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle currently. But I also have
  larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I need to be
  internationalized just like my labels. I am wondering what the best way
to
  do this is?
  I just want to know what other people are doing that is easy on
 maintenance.
 
 
  ---
  Thanks
  Mick Knutson
 
  The world is a playground...Play Hard, Play Smart.
  Visit  http://www.YourSoS.com to learn how our Personal Emergency Alert

  Contact System can help you Play Smart.
 
  +00 1 (708) 570-2772 Fax
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Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Mick Knutson
Well, I did not want to put URGENT, but yes, everything is a critical mass
as I have a 2 day expo starting tomorrow for 500+ people that I am
demonstrating my new application to. So with lack of sleep and heaps of
stress, I am sorry but everything is fairly important right now.

BTW, I really do appreciate the emails of help at this critical time for me.
It has helped out!


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From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:26 AM
Subject: RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


 What! Can you not see that the very fate of human civilisation itself
 depends on it? Open your eyes man!

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2003 16:23
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


 IMPORTANT? Not for me sorry!

 Mick Knutson wrote:
 
  I have posted this before, and I still am trying to
  understand the best way
  to approach this.
 
  I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle
  currently. But I also have
  larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I
  need to be
  internationalized just like my labels. I am
  wondering what the best way to
  do this is?
  I just want to know what other people are doing that
  is easy on maintenance.
 
 
  ---
  Thanks
  Mick Knutson
 
  The world is a playground...Play Hard, Play Smart.
  Visit  http://www.YourSoS.com to learn how our
  Personal Emergency Alert 
  Contact System can help you Play Smart.
 
  +00 1 (708) 570-2772 Fax
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  ICQ: 316498480
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RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-15 Thread Paul McCulloch
fmt get's the neccessary from the headers the broweser puts in the request
by default I believe. Have a look at the Jakarta JSTL examples application.

Paul

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Sent: 15 October 2003 14:55
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


Are you saying that the fmt will get com.baselogic.text by default, but if
the Globals.LOCALE = DE, then fmt will get com.baselogic.text_de?
Or am I missing where fmt gets it's locale information from?


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- Original Message - 
From: Paul McCulloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:21 AM
Subject: RE: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


 I use a similair approach, but get fmt:message to deal with selecting the
 correct locale for me:

 bean:define id=localePage
 fmt:message key=some.langauage.specific.page/
 /bean:define
 jsp:include page=%=localePage% flush=true/

 I then define the path to the locale specific html page in the relvant
 .properties file.

 Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 October 2003 10:14
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML


 I haven't had to do this myself, but I believe that when you have entire
 pages that can be maintained separately, people start developing
 separate page trees. The idea being that you can have an Action check
 the locale and fork to one set of ActionForwards or another, based on
 the locale.

 -Ted.

 Mick Knutson wrote:

  I have posted this before, and I still am trying to understand the best
 way
  to approach this.
 
  I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle currently. But I also have
  larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I need to be
  internationalized just like my labels. I am wondering what the best way
to
  do this is?
  I just want to know what other people are doing that is easy on
 maintenance.
 
 
  ---
  Thanks
  Mick Knutson
 
  The world is a playground...Play Hard, Play Smart.
  Visit  http://www.YourSoS.com to learn how our Personal Emergency Alert

  Contact System can help you Play Smart.
 
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IMPORTANT: internationalize large chunks of text/HTML

2003-10-14 Thread Mick Knutson
I have posted this before, and I still am trying to understand the best way
to approach this.

I have 100% of my labels in a Resource bundle currently. But I also have
larger pages of text (1-2 pages at a time), that I need to be
internationalized just like my labels. I am wondering what the best way to
do this is?
I just want to know what other people are doing that is easy on maintenance.


---
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