Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread Alen Ribic
Because Sun performance GC on their irrelevant, rubbish posts. ;)

--Alen


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>
>
> I have noticed that this list alone has more postings then the
> all the Sun mailing postings put together  ?
>
> Why do you think that is the case  ?
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:11:37 -0400
> >
> >When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2 industry
standard
> >categories/criteria for sorting...
> >
> >[BEER]
> >[OTHER]
> >
> >
> >;)
> >
> >--
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> >770-822-3359
> >AIM:jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:07 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the criteria of the list ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
> > > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >-1
> > > >
> > > >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
> > > >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider
how
> > > >topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more
than
> >a
> > > >few that you listed.
> > > >
> > > >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
> > > >There
> > > >is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the
> >threads
> > > >here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or
save
> > > >what
> > > >you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what
I
> > > >consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
> > > client.  That
> > > >makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >James Mitchell
> > > >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> > > >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> > > >770-822-3359
> > > >AIM:jmitchtx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult
> >to
> > > > > search for mails to read or not to read.
> > > > > For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following
> > > categories.
> > > > > If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on
> > > the struts
> > > > > site too.
> > > > >
> > > > > By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails
> >and
> > > > > read/answer those that interest you.
> > > > > I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
> > > > >
> > > > > [OT]  -Off Topic
> > > > > [FB]  -Form Bean
> > > > > [AF]  -Action Form
> > > > > [RP]  -Request Processor
> > > > > [AS]  -ActionServlet
> > > > > [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> > > > > [GE]  -General Error
> > > > > [DG]  -Design Consideration
> > > > > [PR]  -Problem in Strut

RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread Mark Galbreath
nope

-Original Message-
From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]


With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to search
for mails to read or not to read. For better participation in the forum, we
can have following norm.

We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following categories. If
all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on the struts site
too.

By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
read/answer those that interest you. I hope this would lead to better
participation in the forum.

[OT]  -Off Topic
[FB]  -Form Bean
[AF]  -Action Form
[RP]  -Request Processor
[AS]  -ActionServlet
[SC]  -Scope Related mails
[GE]  -General Error
[DG]  -Design Consideration
[PR]  -Problem in Struts
[TL]  -Tiles
[T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
[T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
[T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
[T-LG] -Logic Tag Library

etc

Shall we start voting for this...!!!

Regards,
Puneet Agarwal

Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
FAX              : +91-120-246 1521

Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...


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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread Gregory F. March

On Aug 5, 2003, "Puneet Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

 |With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to
 |search for mails to read or not to read.
 |For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.

I think this is difficult to do since one question can cover many
categories.  And, for the newbie (like me!), it is hard to understand
exactly what we're asking.

Personally, I think the best thing to do is to remind people to keep the
subject relevant to the thread.  I.e., if the discussion changes course,
change the subject to something more appropriate.  The typical usenet
way of doing it was to take the original subject, say:

   Subject: my action form ate my dog

and replace it with:

   Subject: dog locked in basement [was: my action form ate my dog]

This, along with clipping your replies to only the important content can
contribute to a good signal to noise ratio for the archives.

My $0.02...

Cheers,

/greg

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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread Laurent PETIT
nope, too.

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nope

-Original Message-
From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]


With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to search
for mails to read or not to read. For better participation in the forum, we
can have following norm.

We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following categories. If
all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on the struts site
too.

By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
read/answer those that interest you. I hope this would lead to better
participation in the forum.

[OT]  -Off Topic
[FB]  -Form Bean
[AF]  -Action Form
[RP]  -Request Processor
[AS]  -ActionServlet
[SC]  -Scope Related mails
[GE]  -General Error
[DG]  -Design Consideration
[PR]  -Problem in Struts
[TL]  -Tiles
[T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
[T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
[T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
[T-LG] -Logic Tag Library

etc

Shall we start voting for this...!!!

Regards,
Puneet Agarwal

Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
FAX : +91-120-246 1521

Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...


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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread James Mitchell
That doesn't surprise me.

IMO, the Jakarta Struts framework has become the de facto standard for web
based application development on the J2EE platform.  With more and more
companies (and government agencies) web-enabling their applications, I think
you'll see a steady increase in traffic here.  I still cling to the hope
that by being a "Struts Evangelist" somehow I helped us (even if only a
little) get where we are today.

Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.

Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
company) are interested.


--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx




> -Original Message-
> From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
>
>
>
>
> I have noticed that this list alone has more postings then the
> all the Sun mailing postings put together  ?
>
> Why do you think that is the case  ?
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:11:37 -0400
> >
> >When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2
> industry standard
> >categories/criteria for sorting...
> >
> >[BEER]
> >[OTHER]
> >
> >
> >;)
> >
> >--
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> >770-822-3359
> >AIM:jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:07 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the criteria of the list ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
> > > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >-1
> > > >
> > > >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
> > > >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you
> consider how
> > > >topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix
> of more than
> >a
> > > >few that you listed.
> > > >
> > > >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
> > > >There
> > > >is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the
> >threads
> > > >here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you
> need or save
> > > >what
> > > >you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I
> save (what I
> > > >consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
> > > client.  That
> > > >makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >James Mitchell
> > > >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> > > >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> > > >770-822-3359
> > > >AIM:jmitchtx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become
> difficult
> >to
> > > > > search for mails to read or not to read.
> > > > > For better participation in the for

RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread James Mitchell
-1

We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than a
few that you listed.

Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.  There
is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the threads
here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save what
you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail client.  That
makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.


--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx




> -Original Message-
> From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
>
>
> With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to
> search for mails to read or not to read.
> For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
>
> We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following categories.
> If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on the struts
> site too.
>
> By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
> read/answer those that interest you.
> I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
>
> [OT]  -Off Topic
> [FB]  -Form Bean
> [AF]  -Action Form
> [RP]  -Request Processor
> [AS]  -ActionServlet
> [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> [GE]  -General Error
> [DG]  -Design Consideration
> [PR]  -Problem in Struts
> [TL]  -Tiles
> [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
> [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
> [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
> [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
>
> etc
>
> Shall we start voting for this...!!!
>
> Regards,
> Puneet Agarwal
>
> Tata Consultancy Services,
> C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
> Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
> FAX              : +91-120-246 1521
>
> Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...
>
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread James Mitchell
When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2 industry standard
categories/criteria for sorting...

[BEER]
[OTHER]


;)

--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx




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> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
>
>
>
> What is the criteria of the list ?
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> >
> >-1
> >
> >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
> >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
> >topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than a
> >few that you listed.
> >
> >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
> >There
> >is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the threads
> >here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save
> >what
> >you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
> >consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
> client.  That
> >makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
> >
> >
> >--
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> >770-822-3359
> >AIM:jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > > With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to
> > > search for mails to read or not to read.
> > > For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
> > >
> > > We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following
> categories.
> > > If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on
> the struts
> > > site too.
> > >
> > > By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
> > > read/answer those that interest you.
> > > I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
> > >
> > > [OT]  -Off Topic
> > > [FB]  -Form Bean
> > > [AF]  -Action Form
> > > [RP]  -Request Processor
> > > [AS]  -ActionServlet
> > > [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> > > [GE]  -General Error
> > > [DG]  -Design Consideration
> > > [PR]  -Problem in Struts
> > > [TL]  -Tiles
> > > [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
> > > [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
> > > [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
> > > [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
> > >
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Shall we start voting for this...!!!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Puneet Agarwal
> > >
> > > Tata Consultancy Services,
> > > C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
> > > Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
> > > FAX  : +91-120-246 1521
> > >
> > > Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...
> > >
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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-05 Thread Kwok Peng Tuck
It's quite a big company in India. 

message message wrote:

I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
or should I say Skoda.
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Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:29:46 -0400
Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It 
sounds like a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:37:44 +0530
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Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-06 Thread Mohan Radhakrishnan

I have to agree with that. Here in our part of the world ( India and
Singapore(hearsay) ) there is a groundswell of Struts popularity. I myself
introduced it in two companies. Though initially there was a slight murmur
from the management about the learning curve, it gradually picked up. I am
using Struts with OC4J.


Mohan




-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:20 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]


That doesn't surprise me.

IMO, the Jakarta Struts framework has become the de facto standard for web
based application development on the J2EE platform.  With more and more
companies (and government agencies) web-enabling their applications, I think
you'll see a steady increase in traffic here.  I still cling to the hope
that by being a "Struts Evangelist" somehow I helped us (even if only a
little) get where we are today.

Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.

Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
company) are interested.


--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx




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>
>
>
>
> I have noticed that this list alone has more postings then the
> all the Sun mailing postings put together  ?
>
> Why do you think that is the case  ?
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:11:37 -0400
> >
> >When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2
> industry standard
> >categories/criteria for sorting...
> >
> >[BEER]
> >[OTHER]
> >
> >
> >;)
> >
> >--
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> >770-822-3359
> >AIM:jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the criteria of the list ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >-1
> > > >
> > > >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
> > > >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you
> consider how
> > > >topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix
> of more than
> >a
> > > >few that you listed.
> > > >
> > > >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
> > > >There
> > > >is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the
> >threads
> > > >here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you
> need or save
> > > >what
> > > >you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I
> save (what I
> > > >consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
> > > client.  That
> > > >makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >James Mitchell
> > > >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> > > >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> > > >770-822-3359
> > > >AIM:jmitchtx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > >

Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-06 Thread message message
Also I think it is owned by one family known as the TATA of India.

I think I know the history of this company  or I could be thinking of 
another one.
There used to be car called Morris Minor built by British Leyland.
When Leyland stopped building it so the car became obsolete.
TATA  bought the equipment/plant & machinery from British Leyland.
They then started building the Morris minor in India.

You can still buy a new morris Minor in India.

There is currently an advert on TV about the Renault Clio where
the guy gets an elephant to sit on the car to shape like a Renault Clio.

From: Kwok Peng Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 08:30:43 +0800
It's quite a big company in India.

message message wrote:

I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
or should I say Skoda.
From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds 
like a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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Regards,
Puneet Agarwal
Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-06 Thread Thaung . Sein



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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-07 Thread message message


I have noticed that this list alone has more postings then the
all the Sun mailing postings put together  ?
Why do you think that is the case  ?


From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2 industry standard
categories/criteria for sorting...
[BEER]
[OTHER]
;)

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> From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> What is the criteria of the list ?
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> >
> >-1
> >
> >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
> >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
> >topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than 
a
> >few that you listed.
> >
> >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
> >There
> >is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the 
threads
> >here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save
> >what
> >you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
> >consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
> client.  That
> >makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
> >
> >
> >--
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> >770-822-3359
> >AIM:jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > > With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult 
to
> > > search for mails to read or not to read.
> > > For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
> > >
> > > We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following
> categories.
> > > If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on
> the struts
> > > site too.
> > >
> > > By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails 
and
> > > read/answer those that interest you.
> > > I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
> > >
> > > [OT]  -Off Topic
> > > [FB]  -Form Bean
> > > [AF]  -Action Form
> > > [RP]  -Request Processor
> > > [AS]  -ActionServlet
> > > [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> > > [GE]  -General Error
> > > [DG]  -Design Consideration
> > > [PR]  -Problem in Struts
> > > [TL]  -Tiles
> > > [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
> > > [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
> > > [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
> > > [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
> > >
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Shall we start voting for this...!!!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Puneet Agarwal
> > >
> > > Tata Consultancy Services,
> > > C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
> > > Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
> > > FAX  : +91-120-246 1521
> > >
> > > Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-09 Thread Andrew Hill
-1
What James said, with the extra note that you wont get any support from me
for a scheme that doesnt include a [FRIDAY] tag, or a [BEER] tag, or a
[FRIDAY].[BEER] tag, or a [FRIDAY].[BEER].[42], then again I suppose all
those discussions might best be summed up with [FRIDAY].[BEER] == [42] ;->
Is it only Tuesday still? 

[OT] is pretty well entrenched as a defacto standard already though :-)

As for naming this thread "[OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]" Id say it would more
appropriately have been entitled "[META] -
[TOPIC].[META].[NOMENCLATURE].[PROPOSAL].[VOTE]" or should that be "[META] -
[VOTE].[PROPOSAL].[TOPIC].[META].[NOMENCLATURE]". Garrrgh!





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Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 18:21
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-1

We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than a
few that you listed.

Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.  There
is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the threads
here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save what
you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail client.  That
makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.


--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx




> -Original Message-
> From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
>
>
> With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to
> search for mails to read or not to read.
> For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
>
> We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following categories.
> If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on the struts
> site too.
>
> By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
> read/answer those that interest you.
> I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
>
> [OT]  -Off Topic
> [FB]  -Form Bean
> [AF]  -Action Form
> [RP]  -Request Processor
> [AS]  -ActionServlet
> [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> [GE]  -General Error
> [DG]  -Design Consideration
> [PR]  -Problem in Struts
> [TL]  -Tiles
> [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
> [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
> [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
> [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
>
> etc
>
> Shall we start voting for this...!!!
>
> Regards,
> Puneet Agarwal
>
> Tata Consultancy Services,
> C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
> Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
> FAX              : +91-120-246 1521
>
> Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...
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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-10 Thread rajendra . x . yadav

Yes, it's a big company in India and other places also. One of the leading
services company in India.. right Puneet ?

thanks
-raj



   

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www.tcs.com : Check-it-out guys its a billion dollar company...!!!

Regards,
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C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-10 Thread Andrew Hill
Yep.
Its interesting to note that one of the major struts development tools
(Camino) was developed here in Singapore (by Scioworks Technologies). Id
imagine that once the recession is over and companies start to spend on IT
projects again we will see even more adoption adoption of struts in the
region.

Of course Id imagine that lack of an IT budget in the current economic
climate was once of the things that has driven many to struts and other open
source solutions, but having now seen the benefit they will probably stick
with it.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:40
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I have to agree with that. Here in our part of the world ( India and
Singapore(hearsay) ) there is a groundswell of Struts popularity. I myself
introduced it in two companies. Though initially there was a slight murmur
from the management about the learning curve, it gradually picked up. I am
using Struts with OC4J.


Mohan




-Original Message-
From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:20 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]


That doesn't surprise me.

IMO, the Jakarta Struts framework has become the de facto standard for web
based application development on the J2EE platform.  With more and more
companies (and government agencies) web-enabling their applications, I think
you'll see a steady increase in traffic here.  I still cling to the hope
that by being a "Struts Evangelist" somehow I helped us (even if only a
little) get where we are today.

Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.

Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
company) are interested.


--
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Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
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AIM:jmitchtx




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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
>
> I have noticed that this list alone has more postings then the
> all the Sun mailing postings put together  ?
>
> Why do you think that is the case  ?
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:11:37 -0400
> >
> >When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2
> industry standard
> >categories/criteria for sorting...
> >
> >[BEER]
> >[OTHER]
> >
> >
> >;)
> >
> >--
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.struts-atlanta.org
> >770-822-3359
> >AIM:jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:07 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the criteria of the list ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
> > > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >-1
> > > >
> > > >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
> > > >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you
> consider how
> > > >topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix
> of more than
> >a
> > > >few that you listed.
> > > >
> > > >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
> > > >There
> > > >is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the
> >threads
> > > >here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you
> 

RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread message message
What is the criteria of the list ?


From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
-1

We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than a
few that you listed.
Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.  
There
is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the threads
here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save 
what
you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail client.  That
makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.

--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx


> -Original Message-
> From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
>
>
> With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to
> search for mails to read or not to read.
> For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
>
> We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following categories.
> If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on the struts
> site too.
>
> By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
> read/answer those that interest you.
> I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
>
> [OT]  -Off Topic
> [FB]  -Form Bean
> [AF]  -Action Form
> [RP]  -Request Processor
> [AS]  -ActionServlet
> [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> [GE]  -General Error
> [DG]  -Design Consideration
> [PR]  -Problem in Struts
> [TL]  -Tiles
> [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
> [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
> [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
> [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
>
> etc
>
> Shall we start voting for this...!!!
>
> Regards,
> Puneet Agarwal
>
> Tata Consultancy Services,
> C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
> Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
> FAX  : +91-120-246 1521
>
> Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...
>
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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Puneet Agarwal

www.tcs.com : Check-it-out guys its a billion dollar company...!!!

Regards,
Puneet Agarwal

Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
FAX              : +91-120-246 1521

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Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds like
a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
woo hoo!  titties and beer!

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I guess it's just my potty brain at work. "Ta ta" is like a 10 year old's 
slang for female breasts.

BAL

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>
>www.tcs.com : Check-it-out guys its a billion dollar company...!!!
>
>Regards,
>Puneet Agarwal
>
>Tata Consultancy Services,
>C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
>Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
>FAX              : +91-120-246 1521
>
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2003-08-14 Thread message message
I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
or should I say Skoda.
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Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds like 
a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Rohit Aeron
It's a very big company in India with more than 20,000 employees just in IT & more 
than 5 times of that in other fields

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It's quite a big company in India. 

message message wrote:

>
> I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
> or should I say Skoda.
>
>> From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It 
>> sounds like a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.
>>
>> BAL
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>>> Regards,
>>> Puneet Agarwal
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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Lee
Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds like 
a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Rohit Aeron

I am joining this training ...
But only one condition there should be girls ...
I have one but I want more ...
One is not enough for me ...


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There are girls here too.
If you can't get one here then you can't get one there either.


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>Will there be girls?
>
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>Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
>Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
>through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
>with Struts-Atlanta.
>
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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Lee
I guess it's just my potty brain at work. "Ta ta" is like a 10 year old's 
slang for female breasts.

BAL

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www.tcs.com : Check-it-out guys its a billion dollar company...!!!

Regards,
Puneet Agarwal
Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
FAX              : +91-120-246 1521
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Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds like
a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
[WGAF]?!

Wasn't it you whining about all the traffic on this list?

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Also I think it is owned by one family known as the TATA of India.

I think I know the history of this company  or I could be thinking of 
another one.
There used to be car called Morris Minor built by British Leyland. When
Leyland stopped building it so the car became obsolete. TATA  bought the
equipment/plant & machinery from British Leyland. They then started building
the Morris minor in India.

You can still buy a new morris Minor in India.

There is currently an advert on TV about the Renault Clio where the guy gets
an elephant to sit on the car to shape like a Renault Clio.


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>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 08:30:43 +0800
>
>It's quite a big company in India.
>
>message message wrote:
>
>>
>>I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
>>or should I say Skoda.
>>
>>>From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
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>>>Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:29:46 -0400
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>>>Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It 
>>>sounds
>>>like a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.
>>>
>>>BAL
>>>
>>>>From: "Puneet Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
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>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Puneet Agarwal
>>>>
>>>>Tata Consultancy Services,
>>>>C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
>>>>
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
+1

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When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2 industry standard
categories/criteria for sorting...

[BEER]
[OTHER]


;)

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> What is the criteria of the list ?
>
>
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> >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
> >
> >-1
> >
> >We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to 
> >categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider 
> >how topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of 
> >more than a few that you listed.
> >
> >Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest. 
> >There is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among 
> >the threads here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what 
> >you need or save what
> >you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
> >consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
> client.  That
> >makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
> >
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> > > Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
> > >
> > >
> > > With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult 
> > > to search for mails to read or not to read. For better 
> > > participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
> > >
> > > We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following
> categories.
> > > If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on
> the struts
> > > site too.
> > >
> > > By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails 
> > > and read/answer those that interest you. I hope this would lead to 
> > > better participation in the forum.
> > >
> > > [OT]  -Off Topic
> > > [FB]  -Form Bean
> > > [AF]  -Action Form
> > > [RP]  -Request Processor
> > > [AS]  -ActionServlet
> > > [SC]  -Scope Related mails
> > > [GE]  -General Error
> > > [DG]  -Design Consideration
> > > [PR]  -Problem in Struts
> > > [TL]  -Tiles
> > > [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
> > > [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
> > > [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
> > > [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
> > >
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Shall we start voting for this...!!!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Puneet Agarwal
> > >
> > > Tata Consultancy Services,
> > > C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
> > > Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
Will there be girls?

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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:50 AM

Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.

Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
company) are interested.



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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Andrew Hill
and beer?

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Will there be girls?

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Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.

Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
Not really...after they screw up your system, they say, "ta-ta!"

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Isn't "Tata Consultancy Services" an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds like 
a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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>Tata Consultancy Services,
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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread message message
There are girls here too.
If you can't get one here then you can't get one there either.

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:58:54 -0400
Will there be girls?

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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:50 AM
Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.
Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
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