RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
Yep. Its more of a badging excercise (exersise, excersize ... arrrgh! dyslexiaException) Problem with 6 is that its based on a still immature version of mozilla. If it was the struts team writing it, it wouldnt even have made RC , nevermind release... When we started the project 6 was the current netscape version... -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation It seems to me that if you're doing all this fancy DHTML you wouldn't be forced to use degenerate browsers. Who uses Netscape 6 anyways? I agree with all your complaints about it. I don't understand why Netscape even exists anymore when there's the far superior Mozilla. David >From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:31:23 +0800 > >The problems and annoyances I get with Netscrap6 arent so much javascript >problems but due to its numerous bugs - especially in the DOM stuff. For >example: > >Fields that arent submitted because the element is display: none (fixed in >mozilla but the netscape crew refused to fix it in 6 despite having a patch >because of their 'rush to market') which makes doing collapsing widgets, >tabpanes and such like a nighmare. (This one really bugs me as I have to >support NS6 and this really stuffs things up. Had to put code branching in >numerous places so that non-ns6 users wont have to put up with the poor >quality widgets that I have to implement to make the app functional in 6! >http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34297 - to get a widget working >in IE and mozilla is a few hours, then another 3 or 4 to find a way of >doing >the degraded NS6 version. (which given I estimate our total number of NS6 >users will be somewhere in the order of 0 its kinda painful) ) > >Tons of css stuff that simply isnt implemented properly if at all, >Crashes when you try to use removeChild() on a node, >Crashes if you leave it running overnight, >Crashes on exit most times, >Crashes when mercury is aligned with neptune, >etc... > >..and it is very very sloow and heavy (even when you switch off its >ugly >skins) > >Mozilla on the other hand is not too bad at all and most things work in it >- >and where they dont its cos I was following IE and not the standards. > > >-----Original Message- >From: Kwok Peng Tuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:38 >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > >I had that same problem once. I fixed it by getting the developer guide >from Netscape and wrote my javascript to their >spec. Then my javascript for ie and netscape as well as mozilla worked. >The javascript was a simple script to transfer the >contents of one multiple select box to another. > >Andrew Hill wrote: > > >I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for >simple > >things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in > >Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > > > > >You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and > >Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML >applications. > >Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the > >features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started > >providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, > >Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's > >market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs >and > >quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. > > > > > > -Original Message- > >From:Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent:Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > > >MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both > >microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. > >If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript > >debugger do
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
It seems to me that if you're doing all this fancy DHTML you wouldn't be forced to use degenerate browsers. Who uses Netscape 6 anyways? I agree with all your complaints about it. I don't understand why Netscape even exists anymore when there's the far superior Mozilla. David From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:31:23 +0800 The problems and annoyances I get with Netscrap6 arent so much javascript problems but due to its numerous bugs - especially in the DOM stuff. For example: Fields that arent submitted because the element is display: none (fixed in mozilla but the netscape crew refused to fix it in 6 despite having a patch because of their 'rush to market') which makes doing collapsing widgets, tabpanes and such like a nighmare. (This one really bugs me as I have to support NS6 and this really stuffs things up. Had to put code branching in numerous places so that non-ns6 users wont have to put up with the poor quality widgets that I have to implement to make the app functional in 6! http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34297 - to get a widget working in IE and mozilla is a few hours, then another 3 or 4 to find a way of doing the degraded NS6 version. (which given I estimate our total number of NS6 users will be somewhere in the order of 0 its kinda painful) ) Tons of css stuff that simply isnt implemented properly if at all, Crashes when you try to use removeChild() on a node, Crashes if you leave it running overnight, Crashes on exit most times, Crashes when mercury is aligned with neptune, etc... ..and it is very very sloow and heavy (even when you switch off its ugly skins) Mozilla on the other hand is not too bad at all and most things work in it - and where they dont its cos I was following IE and not the standards. -Original Message- From: Kwok Peng Tuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:38 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation I had that same problem once. I fixed it by getting the developer guide from Netscape and wrote my javascript to their spec. Then my javascript for ie and netscape as well as mozilla worked. The javascript was a simple script to transfer the contents of one multiple select box to another. Andrew Hill wrote: >I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for simple >things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in >Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x > >-Original Message- >From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > >You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and >Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. >Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the >features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started >providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, >Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's >market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and >quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. > > > -Original Message- >From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > >MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both >microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. >If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript >debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not >interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. > >Dan > >-- >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://www.mojavelinux.com/ >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >[Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." >[Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. >But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is >what we do with the time that is given to us.' >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
The problems and annoyances I get with Netscrap6 arent so much javascript problems but due to its numerous bugs - especially in the DOM stuff. For example: Fields that arent submitted because the element is display: none (fixed in mozilla but the netscape crew refused to fix it in 6 despite having a patch because of their 'rush to market') which makes doing collapsing widgets, tabpanes and such like a nighmare. (This one really bugs me as I have to support NS6 and this really stuffs things up. Had to put code branching in numerous places so that non-ns6 users wont have to put up with the poor quality widgets that I have to implement to make the app functional in 6! http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34297 - to get a widget working in IE and mozilla is a few hours, then another 3 or 4 to find a way of doing the degraded NS6 version. (which given I estimate our total number of NS6 users will be somewhere in the order of 0 its kinda painful) ) Tons of css stuff that simply isnt implemented properly if at all, Crashes when you try to use removeChild() on a node, Crashes if you leave it running overnight, Crashes on exit most times, Crashes when mercury is aligned with neptune, etc... ..and it is very very sloow and heavy (even when you switch off its ugly skins) Mozilla on the other hand is not too bad at all and most things work in it - and where they dont its cos I was following IE and not the standards. -Original Message- From: Kwok Peng Tuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:38 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation I had that same problem once. I fixed it by getting the developer guide from Netscape and wrote my javascript to their spec. Then my javascript for ie and netscape as well as mozilla worked. The javascript was a simple script to transfer the contents of one multiple select box to another. Andrew Hill wrote: >I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for simple >things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in >Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x > >-Original Message- >From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > >You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and >Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. >Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the >features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started >providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, >Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's >market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and >quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. > > > -Original Message- >From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM >To:Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > >MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both >microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. >If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript >debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not >interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. > >Dan > >-- >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://www.mojavelinux.com/ >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >[Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." >[Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. >But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is >what we do with the time that is given to us.' >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
I had that same problem once. I fixed it by getting the developer guide from Netscape and wrote my javascript to their spec. Then my javascript for ie and netscape as well as mozilla worked. The javascript was a simple script to transfer the contents of one multiple select box to another. Andrew Hill wrote: I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for simple things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x -Original Message- From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. -Original Message- From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
wait long long -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation When Microsoft can make a browser that doesn't let hackers delete files from my hard drive I might consider using it. David >From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:44:14 +0800 > >I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for simple >things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in >Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x > >-Original Message- >From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > >You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and >Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. >Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the >features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started >providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, >Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's >market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and >quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. > > > -Original Message----- >From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM >To:Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > >MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both >microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. >If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript >debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not >interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. > >Dan > >-- >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://www.mojavelinux.com/ >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >[Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." >[Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. >But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is >what we do with the time that is given to us.' >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
When Microsoft can make a browser that doesn't let hackers delete files from my hard drive I might consider using it. David From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:44:14 +0800 I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for simple things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x -Original Message- From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. -Original Message- From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject:Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
I find I have to spend *ages* doing wierd workarounds and hacks for simple things that work fine in IE and Mozilla but are completely broken in Netscape 6... Thank heavens I dont need to support 4.x -Original Message- From: Niesen, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:38 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. -Original Message- From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
You guys can bash IE all you want but until about 6 months ago IE and Netscape 4.7 were the only games in town for hard-core DTHML applications. Being standards compliant is worthless if the standards don't contain the features you need. Mozilla and Opera finally figured that out and started providing some real competition. The new wave of browsers (Phoenix 0.5, Netscape 7.0, and Opera 7.01) will finally have a shot at reducing IE's market share. I still spend the majority of my time working around bugs and quirks in the non-IE browsers but gap the is finally shrinking. -Original Message- From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:00 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I know that shortcut and it's irritating. It should be a > configurable > preference. Like I said, Mozilla is amateur. Here we go ;) Why is it amateur to not break an interface component that users are used to? To me, it seems amateur to change a long-established keyboard shortcut - especially if users (such as myself) wish to work with both new windows and new tabs... I said it should be configurable, *not* that it break behavior people are used to. > > > > > F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the > > > Windows standard and > > > old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. > > > >False, both F5 and Ctrl-R do a refresh in Mozilla. > > Not the last time I checked. I only use Mozilla on Linux > though so maybe > the versions are different. Ahh, good point - maybe Mozilla only supports F5 on windows platforms. Of course, in a sense this is perfectly logical - as F5 to refresh is a copy of an IE keyboard shortcut, so why should it work on non-MS OSes? So that I don't have to learn brand new shortcuts for each platform. The default behavior should be the platform's standard (like the Windows standard of using F5 for refresh) but be configurable. The shortcuts are not the biggest reason I prefer Opera. Mozilla consistently renders pages in smaller text than normal so I always have to zoom in on them. All right, I'm done with the browser war :-). David _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > > > Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but > > > amateur. > > > Opera has those features and they are implemented better than > > > Mozilla's. > > > > > > Quick examples: > > > Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news > > > window. Why > > > provide tabs and then default to opening windows? > > > >Why break existing functionality (an even bigger sin than > changing a public > >API)? Ctrl-T opens a new tab in Mozilla... > > I know that shortcut and it's irritating. It should be a > configurable > preference. Like I said, Mozilla is amateur. Here we go ;) Why is it amateur to not break an interface component that users are used to? To me, it seems amateur to change a long-established keyboard shortcut - especially if users (such as myself) wish to work with both new windows and new tabs... > > > > > F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the > > > Windows standard and > > > old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. > > > >False, both F5 and Ctrl-R do a refresh in Mozilla. > > Not the last time I checked. I only use Mozilla on Linux > though so maybe > the versions are different. Ahh, good point - maybe Mozilla only supports F5 on windows platforms. Of course, in a sense this is perfectly logical - as F5 to refresh is a copy of an IE keyboard shortcut, so why should it work on non-MS OSes? > > > > > Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. > > > > > > David <> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mozilla supports F5 refresh and is free. Opera is $39 (infinitely more expensive). With Mozilla and IE around I see no compelling reason to pay money to view pages. BAL From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:05:07 -0700 Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but amateur. Opera has those features and they are implemented better than Mozilla's. Quick examples: Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news window. Why provide tabs and then default to opening windows? F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the Windows standard and old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. David From: Dan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:59:53 -0600 MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
David Graham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but amateur. > Opera has those features and they are implemented better than Mozilla's. I will help you out, Opera rocks too! I love them both equally well on different days. > Quick examples: > Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news window. Why > provide tabs and then default to opening windows? Mozilla 1.3 > F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the Windows standard and > old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. You can always add the keybinding, but you have a reasonable point there. > Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. And faster, but I guess it is safe to say, why would anyone use IE then? Because it comes with the OS and installing software scares most people. Also, Opera has banner ads unless you pay for it. The biggest irritating thing about Mozilla is that it renders many pages with extremely small text so I'm constantly zooming in on them. David Believe me, I won't diss Opera for a second, Opera 7 is very smooth. But Mozilla has a place in my heart too. Dan _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
> Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but > amateur. > Opera has those features and they are implemented better than > Mozilla's. > > Quick examples: > Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news > window. Why > provide tabs and then default to opening windows? Why break existing functionality (an even bigger sin than changing a public API)? Ctrl-T opens a new tab in Mozilla... I know that shortcut and it's irritating. It should be a configurable preference. Like I said, Mozilla is amateur. > F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the > Windows standard and > old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. False, both F5 and Ctrl-R do a refresh in Mozilla. Not the last time I checked. I only use Mozilla on Linux though so maybe the versions are different. > Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. > > David > > > > >From: Dan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:59:53 -0600 > > > >MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both > >microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. > >If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript > >debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not > >interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. > > > >Dan > > > >-- > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://www.mojavelinux.com/ > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >[Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." > >[Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. > >But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is > >what we do with the time that is given to us.' > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
David Graham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but amateur. > Opera has those features and they are implemented better than Mozilla's. I will help you out, Opera rocks too! I love them both equally well on different days. > Quick examples: > Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news window. Why > provide tabs and then default to opening windows? Mozilla 1.3 > F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the Windows standard and > old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. You can always add the keybinding, but you have a reasonable point there. > Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. And faster, but I guess it is safe to say, why would anyone use IE then? Believe me, I won't diss Opera for a second, Opera 7 is very smooth. But Mozilla has a place in my heart too. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Microsoft's Law of Software Engineering: Don't worry if it doesn't work right. If everything did, we'd be out of a job. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
> -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > > > Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but > amateur. > Opera has those features and they are implemented better than > Mozilla's. > > Quick examples: > Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news > window. Why > provide tabs and then default to opening windows? Why break existing functionality (an even bigger sin than changing a public API)? Ctrl-T opens a new tab in Mozilla... > F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the > Windows standard and > old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. False, both F5 and Ctrl-R do a refresh in Mozilla. > Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. > > David > > > > >From: Dan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:59:53 -0600 > > > >MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both > >microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. > >If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript > >debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not > >interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. > > > >Dan > > > >-- > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://www.mojavelinux.com/ > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >[Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." > >[Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. > >But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is > >what we do with the time that is given to us.' > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
Oh how we all love a good browser war :-). Mozilla is ok but amateur. Opera has those features and they are implemented better than Mozilla's. Quick examples: Ctrl-N in Opera opens new tab. Ctrl-N in mozilla opens news window. Why provide tabs and then default to opening windows? F5 and Ctrl-R in Opera refresh the page to fit with the Windows standard and old netscape diehards. Mozilla uses Ctrl-R only. Maybe minor issues but Opera is the more polished browser. David From: Dan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:59:53 -0600 MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
MOZILLA! There isn't a person I have introduced to mozilla, both microsoft lovers and haters alike, that do not swear by mozilla now. If tab browsing, dom inspector, javascript console or javascript debugger doesn't catch your interest, then you are just not interested in software. Mozilla rocks. I rest my case. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Frodo]: "I wish it need not have happened in my time." [Gandalf]: "So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we do with the time that is given to us.' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
is your js validate function returning false? because it should if there are any invalid fields. -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2003 18:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation I think I've seen this debugger on previous machines but never had any luck working with it. For me, the debugging window provided by netscape and opera is plenty useful to solve js problems. David >From: Jeff Kyser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:02:05 -0600 > >Maybe this is what David is talking about, but much as I hate to admit, >there is a 'Microsoft Script Debugger' that came with my Windows 2000 >CD (I think!), you had to go in and manually select it to get it installed >(that much I do remember), and so long as you have your code running >on a Windows box, it worked pretty well, allowing you to step through >the source, etc. A LOT better than just the javascript error reporting >dialog. > >-jeff > >On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 10:20 AM, David Graham wrote: > >>IE puts a yellow icon in the bottom left corner when there are js errors >>(double click it). Netscape and Opera both offer a javascript debugging >>window that's much better than IE. >> >>David >> >> >> >>>From: "Hohlen, John C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "Struts-User (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Subject: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation >>>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:04:49 -0600 >>> >>>Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet >>>Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not >>>working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all >>>required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form >>>still >>>gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some >>>alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. >>> I >>>thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills >>>are >>>lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>JOHN >>> >>>- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> >>_ >> >> >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
I think I've seen this debugger on previous machines but never had any luck working with it. For me, the debugging window provided by netscape and opera is plenty useful to solve js problems. David From: Jeff Kyser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:02:05 -0600 Maybe this is what David is talking about, but much as I hate to admit, there is a 'Microsoft Script Debugger' that came with my Windows 2000 CD (I think!), you had to go in and manually select it to get it installed (that much I do remember), and so long as you have your code running on a Windows box, it worked pretty well, allowing you to step through the source, etc. A LOT better than just the javascript error reporting dialog. -jeff On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 10:20 AM, David Graham wrote: IE puts a yellow icon in the bottom left corner when there are js errors (double click it). Netscape and Opera both offer a javascript debugging window that's much better than IE. David From: "Hohlen, John C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts-User (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:04:49 -0600 Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form still gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. I thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills are lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. Thanks, JOHN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
Maybe this is what David is talking about, but much as I hate to admit, there is a 'Microsoft Script Debugger' that came with my Windows 2000 CD (I think!), you had to go in and manually select it to get it installed (that much I do remember), and so long as you have your code running on a Windows box, it worked pretty well, allowing you to step through the source, etc. A LOT better than just the javascript error reporting dialog. -jeff On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 10:20 AM, David Graham wrote: IE puts a yellow icon in the bottom left corner when there are js errors (double click it). Netscape and Opera both offer a javascript debugging window that's much better than IE. David From: "Hohlen, John C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts-User (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:04:49 -0600 Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form still gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. I thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills are lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. Thanks, JOHN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
IE puts a yellow icon in the bottom left corner when there are js errors (double click it). Netscape and Opera both offer a javascript debugging window that's much better than IE. David From: "Hohlen, John C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts-User (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:04:49 -0600 Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form still gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. I thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills are lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. Thanks, JOHN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
If you can use Mozilla, it comes with a nice integrated javascript debugger. If you've built a non-standard application that only works in IE, then that won't help you very much. > -Original Message- > From: Hohlen, John C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet > Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not > working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all > required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form still > gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some > alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. > I > thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills are > lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation
why not use the microsoft integrated one ? -- Alexandre Jaquet - Original Message - From: "Hohlen, John C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts-User (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [OT] JavaScript Debugger For Client-Side Validation > Can anyone recommend a good (and free) JavaScript debugger for Internet > Explorer? We have a situation where the Required Field Validation is not > working properly. It's a simple form with about 6 input fields, all > required. When some of the required fields aren't entered, the form still > gets submitted. I know the JavaScript is getting called b/c I added some > alert pop-ups. But somewhere, the missing fields aren't getting flagged. I > thought a JavaScript debugger might help me since my JavaScript skills are > lacking. I'd like to step through the JavaScript code. > > Thanks, > > JOHN > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
