Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-27 Thread Otavio Decio

Steve,

JDeveloper keeps shooting the CPU to 100% on every stroke. Just how I had to
kill its javaw process because it simply was not coming back. There should
be a way to disable the auto-compile, auto-complete and everything that it
tries to run in the background. I am using a 1Ghz/512M machine but it
doesn't matter, I lost a lot of time already just trying to type my program!

I know you might not be the right person to talk about this, but I couldn't
find any way to do it through Oracle.

I'd appreciate any feedback on this, and also I wanted to know if anyone out
there is experiencing the same problems.

Thanks,

Otavio
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


 With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
 we are feverishly working on new features for our next
 release (9.0.3).

 One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
 environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
 source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
 work with relational databases.

 A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
 for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
 the Model layer of a Struts application.

 I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
 troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
 JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
 fold that feedback into our next product version to
 polish any existing rough edges.

 Thanks.

 __
 Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author
 Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
 http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
 Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp


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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread Otavio C. Decio

Hi Steve,

We rolled our own data access layer, instead of using BC4J. We are being
successful on building a Struts-based application using JDeveloper although
we are still unable to have our project compile JSP's with the newer
versions of Struts, mainly the Beta1.1. It would be very helpful if you
could give us a JDeveloper configuration that compiles. I gave up trying to
figure out and we are sticking to the version prior to Beta1. For reasons
that I cannot understand, it (JDeveloper) throws an exception and produces a
0-length java file. I suspect that might have something to do with Oracle's
xml parser, Struts requires xerces and I don't know if there is any
incompatibility. Or I have more JDK's than I should, I need to try to
install JDeveloper on a clean machine.

Another annoyance (I mean, extremely annoying) is that JDeveloper tries to
do a syntax check on the file while editing, and most of the time it shoots
the CPU to 100% and sits there for about 10 seconds. Until it comes back you
can't do anything, such as for example coding. You type some more and again
you need to wait. If you add up the time you lose waiting for it to come
back, it will be hours wasted.

Other than that, it is a good environment for developing apps for OAS.

Regards,

Otavio


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To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


 With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
 we are feverishly working on new features for our next
 release (9.0.3).

 One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
 environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
 source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
 work with relational databases.

 A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
 for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
 the Model layer of a Struts application.

 I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
 troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
 JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
 fold that feedback into our next product version to
 polish any existing rough edges.

 Thanks.

 __
 Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author
 Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
 http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
 Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp


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RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread Voytek . Jarnot

Are you using Ant to build?  If so, here's an Ant target that will
pre-compile your JSPs using the OC4J compiler.  If everything compiles
correctly, it deletes the files.

PRE

  !-- JSP precompile classpath --
  path id=precompile.class.path
pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/lib/ojsp.jar/
pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/crimson.jar/
pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar/
pathelement path=classes/
  /path
  !-- Pre-compile all JSPs using OC4J JSP compiler -- 
  target name=precompile depends=compile
delete dir=../jsp_precomp/
mkdir dir=../jsp_precomp/
java classname=oracle.jsp.tools.Jspc fork=yes dir=../jsp
failonerror=yes
  arg line=-verbose -approot ${basedir}/.. -srcdir ../jsp_precomp -d
../jsp_precomp ../jsp/*/
  classpath refid=precompile.class.path/
/java
  /target

/PRE

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From: Otavio C. Decio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


Hi Steve,

We rolled our own data access layer, instead of using BC4J. We are being
successful on building a Struts-based application using JDeveloper although
we are still unable to have our project compile JSP's with the newer
versions of Struts, mainly the Beta1.1. It would be very helpful if you
could give us a JDeveloper configuration that compiles. I gave up trying to
figure out and we are sticking to the version prior to Beta1. For reasons
that I cannot understand, it (JDeveloper) throws an exception and produces a
0-length java file. I suspect that might have something to do with Oracle's
xml parser, Struts requires xerces and I don't know if there is any
incompatibility. Or I have more JDK's than I should, I need to try to
install JDeveloper on a clean machine.

Another annoyance (I mean, extremely annoying) is that JDeveloper tries to
do a syntax check on the file while editing, and most of the time it shoots
the CPU to 100% and sits there for about 10 seconds. Until it comes back you
can't do anything, such as for example coding. You type some more and again
you need to wait. If you add up the time you lose waiting for it to come
back, it will be hours wasted.

Other than that, it is a good environment for developing apps for OAS.

Regards,

Otavio


- Original Message -
From: Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


 With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
 we are feverishly working on new features for our next
 release (9.0.3).

 One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
 environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
 source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
 work with relational databases.

 A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
 for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
 the Model layer of a Struts application.

 I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
 troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
 JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
 fold that feedback into our next product version to
 polish any existing rough edges.

 Thanks.

 __
 Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author
 Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
 http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread Otavio C. Decio

I was trying to do just that. I couldn't figure out how to call Jspc from a
java task, I even tried to use Apply to no avail.

Thanks, this was very helpful!

Otavio

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


 Are you using Ant to build?  If so, here's an Ant target that will
 pre-compile your JSPs using the OC4J compiler.  If everything compiles
 correctly, it deletes the files.

 PRE

   !-- JSP precompile classpath --
   path id=precompile.class.path
 pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/lib/ojsp.jar/
 pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/crimson.jar/
 pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar/
 pathelement path=classes/
   /path
   !-- Pre-compile all JSPs using OC4J JSP compiler --
   target name=precompile depends=compile
 delete dir=../jsp_precomp/
 mkdir dir=../jsp_precomp/
 java classname=oracle.jsp.tools.Jspc fork=yes dir=../jsp
 failonerror=yes
   arg line=-verbose -approot ${basedir}/.. -srcdir ../jsp_precomp -d
 ../jsp_precomp ../jsp/*/
   classpath refid=precompile.class.path/
 /java
   /target

 /PRE

 -Original Message-
 From: Otavio C. Decio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:52 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


 Hi Steve,

 We rolled our own data access layer, instead of using BC4J. We are being
 successful on building a Struts-based application using JDeveloper
although
 we are still unable to have our project compile JSP's with the newer
 versions of Struts, mainly the Beta1.1. It would be very helpful if you
 could give us a JDeveloper configuration that compiles. I gave up trying
to
 figure out and we are sticking to the version prior to Beta1. For reasons
 that I cannot understand, it (JDeveloper) throws an exception and produces
a
 0-length java file. I suspect that might have something to do with
Oracle's
 xml parser, Struts requires xerces and I don't know if there is any
 incompatibility. Or I have more JDK's than I should, I need to try to
 install JDeveloper on a clean machine.

 Another annoyance (I mean, extremely annoying) is that JDeveloper tries to
 do a syntax check on the file while editing, and most of the time it
shoots
 the CPU to 100% and sits there for about 10 seconds. Until it comes back
you
 can't do anything, such as for example coding. You type some more and
again
 you need to wait. If you add up the time you lose waiting for it to come
 back, it will be hours wasted.

 Other than that, it is a good environment for developing apps for OAS.

 Regards,

 Otavio


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 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM
 Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


  With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
  we are feverishly working on new features for our next
  release (9.0.3).
 
  One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
  environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
  source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
  work with relational databases.
 
  A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
  for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
  the Model layer of a Struts application.
 
  I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
  troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
  JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
  fold that feedback into our next product version to
  polish any existing rough edges.
 
  Thanks.
 
  __
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  Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
  http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread dhay



Does it have any struts support at the moment?

Dave



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With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
we are feverishly working on new features for our next
release (9.0.3).

One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
work with relational databases.

A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
the Model layer of a Struts application.

I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
fold that feedback into our next product version to
polish any existing rough edges.

Thanks.

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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread James Holmes

I have developed a JDeveloper Addin that allows the
Struts Console to be plugged into JDeveloper.

http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

-james
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 Does it have any struts support at the moment?
 
 Dave
 
 
 
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 Subject:  Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i
 and/or BC4J?
 
 
 
 With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the
 door,
 we are feverishly working on new features for our
 next
 release (9.0.3).
 
 One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even
 better
 environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
 source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
 work with relational databases.
 
 A sub-part of this theme is making our Business
 Components
 for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to
 plug-in as
 the Model layer of a Struts application.
 
 I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in
 what
 troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
 JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
 fold that feedback into our next product version to
 polish any existing rough edges.
 
 Thanks.
 

__
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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread dhay



Yeah, but any tag support?

Dave





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Struts Console to be plugged into JDeveloper.

http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

-james
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 Does it have any struts support at the moment?

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 With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the
 door,
 we are feverishly working on new features for our
 next
 release (9.0.3).

 One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even
 better
 environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
 source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
 work with relational databases.

 A sub-part of this theme is making our Business
 Components
 for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to
 plug-in as
 the Model layer of a Struts application.

 I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in
 what
 troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
 JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
 fold that feedback into our next product version to
 polish any existing rough edges.

 Thanks.


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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-25 Thread Steve Muench

| 
| Does it have any struts support at the moment?
| 

It has generic support for any JSP 1.1 tag library,
including tablib-driven tag insight for helping
use the tags. 

It has good J2EE application support, including
deployment and editors for the different *.xml 
descriptors you need to edit while working on 
your J2EE apps.

James Holmes has a JDeveloper9i Struts Console add-in
which can help, too.
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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell




Haven't heard much about this - but I've heard people say Borland's
JBuilder support is good.



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we are feverishly working on new features for our next
release (9.0.3).

One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
work with relational databases.

A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
the Model layer of a Struts application.

I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
fold that feedback into our next product version to
polish any existing rough edges.

Thanks.

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RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Galbreath, Mark

Nice segue.

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Haven't heard much about this - but I've heard people say Borland's
JBuilder support is good.

Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM

With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
we are feverishly working on new features for our next
release (9.0.3).

One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
work with relational databases.

A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
the Model layer of a Struts application.

I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
fold that feedback into our next product version to
polish any existing rough edges.

Thanks.

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RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Galbreath, Mark

I'm using 9iRC2 right now (well, not RIGHT now, but multitasking) coding a
JSP and action class.  Overall, I think the IDE is pretty solid and since I
use to use JBuilder 6.0, the learning curve was pretty steep.  I didn't have
to RTFM to use it, and that's always a good sign that a product is intuitive
to employ.  I have four gripes, however:

1.  The application freezes unexpectedly (about once/day) and has to be
killed manually.  This is  very annoying if I haven't remembered to save my
code for the past 10 minutes or so.  This happened with RC1, too.

2.  If you try to compile (ctrl + shift + F9) and get compile errors, then
simply repeat the compile, the IDE log window reports a successful
compilation, even though you know there are checked exceptions being thrown.

3.  It's difficult to compile and run JSPs within the IDE.

4.  The debugger does not appear to work (could be me...).

I've used HomeSite 4.5, Forte 3.1EE, and J++ (for 1.1 code - it was the
best), and I think JBuilder is on the right track to being one of the best.

Mark

PS - you guys know I was just bullshitting you about using EMACS and vi.
;-)


-Original Message-
From: Steve Muench [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
we are feverishly working on new features for our next
release (9.0.3).

One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
work with relational databases.

A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
the Model layer of a Struts application.

I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can 
fold that feedback into our next product version to
polish any existing rough edges.

Thanks.

__
Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author
Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp


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RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Micael Padraig Og mac Grene

You are out of date, Mark.  It is now vim.  Todays kids!

At 11:54 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
I'm using 9iRC2 right now (well, not RIGHT now, but multitasking) coding a
JSP and action class.  Overall, I think the IDE is pretty solid and since I
use to use JBuilder 6.0, the learning curve was pretty steep.  I didn't have
to RTFM to use it, and that's always a good sign that a product is intuitive
to employ.  I have four gripes, however:

1.  The application freezes unexpectedly (about once/day) and has to be
killed manually.  This is  very annoying if I haven't remembered to save my
code for the past 10 minutes or so.  This happened with RC1, too.

2.  If you try to compile (ctrl + shift + F9) and get compile errors, then
simply repeat the compile, the IDE log window reports a successful
compilation, even though you know there are checked exceptions being thrown.

3.  It's difficult to compile and run JSPs within the IDE.

4.  The debugger does not appear to work (could be me...).

I've used HomeSite 4.5, Forte 3.1EE, and J++ (for 1.1 code - it was the
best), and I think JBuilder is on the right track to being one of the best.

Mark

PS - you guys know I was just bullshitting you about using EMACS and vi.
;-)


-Original Message-
From: Steve Muench [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?


With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
we are feverishly working on new features for our next
release (9.0.3).

One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
work with relational databases.

A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
the Model layer of a Struts application.

I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
fold that feedback into our next product version to
polish any existing rough edges.

Thanks.

__
Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author
Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp


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RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell




I've actually used the Oracle products Steve mentions below. I was working
on a project where we had Oracle as the backend db and we used JDeveloper
on the project. I've seen the BC4J and have built sample things with them,
but haven't taken anything production with them. BC4J seems like a good O/R
Mapping tool - though it may be more than that.

If you're using the Oracle DB, JDeveloper is probably a good choice. I
heard it was based on JBuilder to begin with.





Galbreath, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:41:37 AM

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Nice segue.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM

Haven't heard much about this - but I've heard people say Borland's
JBuilder support is good.

Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM

With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door,
we are feverishly working on new features for our next
release (9.0.3).

One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better
environment to model, code, debug, profile, build,
source-control, and deploy Struts applications that
work with relational databases.

A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components
for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as
the Model layer of a Struts application.

I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what
troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use
JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can
fold that feedback into our next product version to
polish any existing rough edges.

Thanks.

__
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Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp


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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Steve Muench

| I've actually used the Oracle products Steve mentions below. I was working
| on a project where we had Oracle as the backend db and we used JDeveloper
| on the project. I've seen the BC4J and have built sample things with them,
| but haven't taken anything production with them. BC4J seems like a good O/R
| Mapping tool - though it may be more than that.

Here's a pretty good overview of what BC4J does:

http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html


| If you're using the Oracle DB, JDeveloper is probably a good choice. I
| heard it was based on JBuilder to begin with.

We did just win three awards (first prize) from JavaPro:
Best Database Tool for Java, Best Java Database Application Tool,
and Best Java Optimization Tool. 

Our previous major release (JDeveloper 3.2.3) still had
a little bit of Borland code left in it from when we licensed
JBuilder 5 years ago, but our new JDeveloper9i release
(just about to go production) bears no relationship to
the Borland product or its code. 

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JDeveloper9i - http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev
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Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?

2002-04-24 Thread Steve Muench

| Presently i use the BC4J API with Struts to develop a web application,
| that's work's fine, but not very easy to develop, i hope this new products
| will release this summer.

Not a new product, per se, just the next point release
of our existing JDeveloper9i product. :-)

Can you give me (offlist is fine) some overview of how you work
today with Struts and BC4J ?

Do you use struts tags or BC4J data-tags to render your pages?

Do you introduce extra Beans, or use the BC4J Rows directly?

Have you built BC4J-specific actions?

Getting some details into what you've done today
will help me understand how we can make it easier.

| Will this new product offer some wizards to help make struts development
| faster?

Yes.

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Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
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