Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Steve, JDeveloper keeps shooting the CPU to 100% on every stroke. Just how I had to kill its javaw process because it simply was not coming back. There should be a way to disable the auto-compile, auto-complete and everything that it tries to run in the background. I am using a 1Ghz/512M machine but it doesn't matter, I lost a lot of time already just trying to type my program! I know you might not be the right person to talk about this, but I couldn't find any way to do it through Oracle. I'd appreciate any feedback on this, and also I wanted to know if anyone out there is experiencing the same problems. Thanks, Otavio - Original Message - From: Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Hi Steve, We rolled our own data access layer, instead of using BC4J. We are being successful on building a Struts-based application using JDeveloper although we are still unable to have our project compile JSP's with the newer versions of Struts, mainly the Beta1.1. It would be very helpful if you could give us a JDeveloper configuration that compiles. I gave up trying to figure out and we are sticking to the version prior to Beta1. For reasons that I cannot understand, it (JDeveloper) throws an exception and produces a 0-length java file. I suspect that might have something to do with Oracle's xml parser, Struts requires xerces and I don't know if there is any incompatibility. Or I have more JDK's than I should, I need to try to install JDeveloper on a clean machine. Another annoyance (I mean, extremely annoying) is that JDeveloper tries to do a syntax check on the file while editing, and most of the time it shoots the CPU to 100% and sits there for about 10 seconds. Until it comes back you can't do anything, such as for example coding. You type some more and again you need to wait. If you add up the time you lose waiting for it to come back, it will be hours wasted. Other than that, it is a good environment for developing apps for OAS. Regards, Otavio - Original Message - From: Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Are you using Ant to build? If so, here's an Ant target that will pre-compile your JSPs using the OC4J compiler. If everything compiles correctly, it deletes the files. PRE !-- JSP precompile classpath -- path id=precompile.class.path pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/lib/ojsp.jar/ pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/crimson.jar/ pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar/ pathelement path=classes/ /path !-- Pre-compile all JSPs using OC4J JSP compiler -- target name=precompile depends=compile delete dir=../jsp_precomp/ mkdir dir=../jsp_precomp/ java classname=oracle.jsp.tools.Jspc fork=yes dir=../jsp failonerror=yes arg line=-verbose -approot ${basedir}/.. -srcdir ../jsp_precomp -d ../jsp_precomp ../jsp/*/ classpath refid=precompile.class.path/ /java /target /PRE -Original Message- From: Otavio C. Decio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:52 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? Hi Steve, We rolled our own data access layer, instead of using BC4J. We are being successful on building a Struts-based application using JDeveloper although we are still unable to have our project compile JSP's with the newer versions of Struts, mainly the Beta1.1. It would be very helpful if you could give us a JDeveloper configuration that compiles. I gave up trying to figure out and we are sticking to the version prior to Beta1. For reasons that I cannot understand, it (JDeveloper) throws an exception and produces a 0-length java file. I suspect that might have something to do with Oracle's xml parser, Struts requires xerces and I don't know if there is any incompatibility. Or I have more JDK's than I should, I need to try to install JDeveloper on a clean machine. Another annoyance (I mean, extremely annoying) is that JDeveloper tries to do a syntax check on the file while editing, and most of the time it shoots the CPU to 100% and sits there for about 10 seconds. Until it comes back you can't do anything, such as for example coding. You type some more and again you need to wait. If you add up the time you lose waiting for it to come back, it will be hours wasted. Other than that, it is a good environment for developing apps for OAS. Regards, Otavio - Original Message - From: Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
I was trying to do just that. I couldn't figure out how to call Jspc from a java task, I even tried to use Apply to no avail. Thanks, this was very helpful! Otavio - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? Are you using Ant to build? If so, here's an Ant target that will pre-compile your JSPs using the OC4J compiler. If everything compiles correctly, it deletes the files. PRE !-- JSP precompile classpath -- path id=precompile.class.path pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/lib/ojsp.jar/ pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/crimson.jar/ pathelement location=${oc4j.dir}/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar/ pathelement path=classes/ /path !-- Pre-compile all JSPs using OC4J JSP compiler -- target name=precompile depends=compile delete dir=../jsp_precomp/ mkdir dir=../jsp_precomp/ java classname=oracle.jsp.tools.Jspc fork=yes dir=../jsp failonerror=yes arg line=-verbose -approot ${basedir}/.. -srcdir ../jsp_precomp -d ../jsp_precomp ../jsp/*/ classpath refid=precompile.class.path/ /java /target /PRE -Original Message- From: Otavio C. Decio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:52 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? Hi Steve, We rolled our own data access layer, instead of using BC4J. We are being successful on building a Struts-based application using JDeveloper although we are still unable to have our project compile JSP's with the newer versions of Struts, mainly the Beta1.1. It would be very helpful if you could give us a JDeveloper configuration that compiles. I gave up trying to figure out and we are sticking to the version prior to Beta1. For reasons that I cannot understand, it (JDeveloper) throws an exception and produces a 0-length java file. I suspect that might have something to do with Oracle's xml parser, Struts requires xerces and I don't know if there is any incompatibility. Or I have more JDK's than I should, I need to try to install JDeveloper on a clean machine. Another annoyance (I mean, extremely annoying) is that JDeveloper tries to do a syntax check on the file while editing, and most of the time it shoots the CPU to 100% and sits there for about 10 seconds. Until it comes back you can't do anything, such as for example coding. You type some more and again you need to wait. If you add up the time you lose waiting for it to come back, it will be hours wasted. Other than that, it is a good environment for developing apps for OAS. Regards, Otavio - Original Message - From: Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Does it have any struts support at the moment? Dave Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
I have developed a JDeveloper Addin that allows the Struts Console to be plugged into JDeveloper. http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ -james [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have any struts support at the moment? Dave Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Yeah, but any tag support? Dave James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/25/2002 11:12:48 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? I have developed a JDeveloper Addin that allows the Struts Console to be plugged into JDeveloper. http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ -james [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have any struts support at the moment? Dave Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
| | Does it have any struts support at the moment? | It has generic support for any JSP 1.1 tag library, including tablib-driven tag insight for helping use the tags. It has good J2EE application support, including deployment and editors for the different *.xml descriptors you need to edit while working on your J2EE apps. James Holmes has a JDeveloper9i Struts Console add-in which can help, too. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Haven't heard much about this - but I've heard people say Borland's JBuilder support is good. Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
Nice segue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM Haven't heard much about this - but I've heard people say Borland's JBuilder support is good. Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
I'm using 9iRC2 right now (well, not RIGHT now, but multitasking) coding a JSP and action class. Overall, I think the IDE is pretty solid and since I use to use JBuilder 6.0, the learning curve was pretty steep. I didn't have to RTFM to use it, and that's always a good sign that a product is intuitive to employ. I have four gripes, however: 1. The application freezes unexpectedly (about once/day) and has to be killed manually. This is very annoying if I haven't remembered to save my code for the past 10 minutes or so. This happened with RC1, too. 2. If you try to compile (ctrl + shift + F9) and get compile errors, then simply repeat the compile, the IDE log window reports a successful compilation, even though you know there are checked exceptions being thrown. 3. It's difficult to compile and run JSPs within the IDE. 4. The debugger does not appear to work (could be me...). I've used HomeSite 4.5, Forte 3.1EE, and J++ (for 1.1 code - it was the best), and I think JBuilder is on the right track to being one of the best. Mark PS - you guys know I was just bullshitting you about using EMACS and vi. ;-) -Original Message- From: Steve Muench [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
You are out of date, Mark. It is now vim. Todays kids! At 11:54 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote: I'm using 9iRC2 right now (well, not RIGHT now, but multitasking) coding a JSP and action class. Overall, I think the IDE is pretty solid and since I use to use JBuilder 6.0, the learning curve was pretty steep. I didn't have to RTFM to use it, and that's always a good sign that a product is intuitive to employ. I have four gripes, however: 1. The application freezes unexpectedly (about once/day) and has to be killed manually. This is very annoying if I haven't remembered to save my code for the past 10 minutes or so. This happened with RC1, too. 2. If you try to compile (ctrl + shift + F9) and get compile errors, then simply repeat the compile, the IDE log window reports a successful compilation, even though you know there are checked exceptions being thrown. 3. It's difficult to compile and run JSPs within the IDE. 4. The debugger does not appear to work (could be me...). I've used HomeSite 4.5, Forte 3.1EE, and J++ (for 1.1 code - it was the best), and I think JBuilder is on the right track to being one of the best. Mark PS - you guys know I was just bullshitting you about using EMACS and vi. ;-) -Original Message- From: Steve Muench [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:26 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
I've actually used the Oracle products Steve mentions below. I was working on a project where we had Oracle as the backend db and we used JDeveloper on the project. I've seen the BC4J and have built sample things with them, but haven't taken anything production with them. BC4J seems like a good O/R Mapping tool - though it may be more than that. If you're using the Oracle DB, JDeveloper is probably a good choice. I heard it was based on JBuilder to begin with. Galbreath, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:41:37 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J? Nice segue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:25 AM Haven't heard much about this - but I've heard people say Borland's JBuilder support is good. Steve Muench [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/24/2002 11:25:49 AM With our JDeveloper 9.0.2 release nearly out the door, we are feverishly working on new features for our next release (9.0.3). One of these areas is making JDeveloper9i an even better environment to model, code, debug, profile, build, source-control, and deploy Struts applications that work with relational databases. A sub-part of this theme is making our Business Components for Java (BC4J) J2EE framework even easier to plug-in as the Model layer of a Struts application. I'm interested in (offlist or onlist) feedback in what troubles or triumphs people have had trying to use JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J with Struts so that we can fold that feedback into our next product version to polish any existing rough edges. Thanks. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
| I've actually used the Oracle products Steve mentions below. I was working | on a project where we had Oracle as the backend db and we used JDeveloper | on the project. I've seen the BC4J and have built sample things with them, | but haven't taken anything production with them. BC4J seems like a good O/R | Mapping tool - though it may be more than that. Here's a pretty good overview of what BC4J does: http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html | If you're using the Oracle DB, JDeveloper is probably a good choice. I | heard it was based on JBuilder to begin with. We did just win three awards (first prize) from JavaPro: Best Database Tool for Java, Best Java Database Application Tool, and Best Java Optimization Tool. Our previous major release (JDeveloper 3.2.3) still had a little bit of Borland code left in it from when we licensed JBuilder 5 years ago, but our new JDeveloper9i release (just about to go production) bears no relationship to the Borland product or its code. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author JDeveloper9i - http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone Using Struts with JDeveloper9i and/or BC4J?
| Presently i use the BC4J API with Struts to develop a web application, | that's work's fine, but not very easy to develop, i hope this new products | will release this summer. Not a new product, per se, just the next point release of our existing JDeveloper9i product. :-) Can you give me (offlist is fine) some overview of how you work today with Struts and BC4J ? Do you use struts tags or BC4J data-tags to render your pages? Do you introduce extra Beans, or use the BC4J Rows directly? Have you built BC4J-specific actions? Getting some details into what you've done today will help me understand how we can make it easier. | Will this new product offer some wizards to help make struts development | faster? Yes. __ Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Evangelist, Author Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]