[OT] Re: Struts book give-away

[Geeta Ramani]

ok, that's 3 strikes.. I'm out..:O

Srikanth Shenoy wrote:

> That applies for the complete ebook :)
> Since the purchased ebook is not encrypted to constrain the printing, it
> will open up in Acrobat 4 reader too.
> Only the sample chapter wont.. ;(
>
> -Srikanth
>
> "Geeta Ramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Old versions of software - the story of my life.. (:(
> >
> > However, the download page does say it should work with acrobat 4 and
> > 5.. ?
> >
> > Thanks for your response!
> > Geeta
> >
> > Bryce Fischer wrote:
> >
> > > > Clarification:
> > > >
> > > > I did manage to download the pdf, but cannot seem to open i in
> > > > Acobat 4.0: the file apparantly is corrupted..
> > > >
> > > > Geeta
> > >
> > > I downloaded and opened fine. You are using a very old version of
> > > Acrobat. My version is 6.0, so maybe it only supports a newer
> > > version?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bryce Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > 
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Re: Struts book give-away

[Srikanth Shenoy]

That applies for the complete ebook :)
Since the purchased ebook is not encrypted to constrain the printing, it
will open up in Acrobat 4 reader too.
Only the sample chapter wont.. ;(

-Srikanth

"Geeta Ramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Old versions of software - the story of my life.. (:(
> 
> However, the download page does say it should work with acrobat 4 and 
> 5.. ?
> 
> Thanks for your response!
> Geeta
> 
> Bryce Fischer wrote:
> 
> > > Clarification:
> > >
> > > I did manage to download the pdf, but cannot seem to open i in 
> > > Acobat 4.0: the file apparantly is corrupted..
> > >
> > > Geeta
> >
> > I downloaded and opened fine. You are using a very old version of 
> > Acrobat. My version is 6.0, so maybe it only supports a newer 
> > version?
> >
> > --
> > Bryce Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > 
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Re: Struts book give-away

[Geeta Ramani]

Srikanth:

Thanks for your promt reply.  Seems like I'll have to wait till I get home
and use some decent software then..;)

Geeta
P.S. You may want to correct the notation about acrobat 4 on the web site
then..:)

Srikanth Shenoy wrote:

> Hi Geeta,
>
> The PDF was created using Adobe PDF 5 standard and using the encryption
> to disable printing.
> All Adobe PDF 5 files open in Adobe 4, except the encrypted ones.
> There lies the problem...
> You have to use Acrobat Readers 5 and above
>
> -Srikanth


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RE: Struts book give-away

[Smith, Darrin]

I looked at the EJB forum but it wasn't there.  I might try to post it again
if you think you might have some insight on it, but since the book doesn't
cover it...

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Subject: Re: Struts book give-away


Hi Darrin,

I am surpirsed as to why would anybody remove the question even if the
book does not discuss EJBs.
Did you check if they move into other forums by any chance?

-Srikanth

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m>...
> I posted a question on using Struts with EJB but it got removed!
>  
> I assume that since the book doesn't cover this that it wouldn't be 
> discussed so that's why it was taken off?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Srikanth Shenoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Struts book give-away
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I am the author of Struts Survival Guide - yet another entrant in the 
> Struts book shelf. There is a free Struts book give-away of my book at

> JavaRanch this week. Interested can go to
> http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum
>
<http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=58>
> &f=58 and post a question or respond to an existing one and are
> automatically entered into the contest. Four lucky winners will get a
book
> each.
>  
> See you there.
>  
>   Srikanth Shenoy
>   Author
>   Struts Survival Guide:  
> <http://www.objectsource.com/strutsbook.html>
> Basics to Best Practices
>   J2EE
<http://www.theserverside.com/books/review/J2EESurvivalGuide.tss>
> Project Survival Guide
> 
>  
> 
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Re: Struts book give-away

[Geeta Ramani]

Old versions of software - the story of my life.. (:(

However, the download page does say it should work with acrobat 4 and 5.. ?

Thanks for your response!
Geeta

Bryce Fischer wrote:

> > Clarification:
> >
> > I did manage to download the pdf, but cannot seem to open i in Acobat 4.0:
> > the file apparantly is corrupted..
> >
> > Geeta
>
> I downloaded and opened fine. You are using a very old version of
> Acrobat. My version is 6.0, so maybe it only supports a newer version?
>
> --
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Re: Struts book give-away

[Srikanth Shenoy]

Hi Darrin,

I am surpirsed as to why would anybody remove the question even if the
book does not discuss EJBs.
Did you check if they move into other forums by any chance?

-Srikanth

"Smith, Darrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m>...
> I posted a question on using Struts with EJB but it got removed!
>  
> I assume that since the book doesn't cover this that it wouldn't be 
> discussed so that's why it was taken off?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Srikanth Shenoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Struts book give-away
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I am the author of Struts Survival Guide - yet another entrant in the 
> Struts book shelf. There is a free Struts book give-away of my book at

> JavaRanch this week. Interested can go to
> http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum
>

> &f=58 and post a question or respond to an existing one and are
> automatically entered into the contest. Four lucky winners will get a
book
> each.
>  
> See you there.
>  
>   Srikanth Shenoy
>   Author
>   Struts Survival Guide:  
> 
> Basics to Best Practices
>   J2EE

> Project Survival Guide
> 
>  
> 
> 



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Re: Struts book give-away

[Srikanth Shenoy]

Hi Geeta,

The PDF was created using Adobe PDF 5 standard and using the encryption
to disable printing.
All Adobe PDF 5 files open in Adobe 4, except the encrypted ones.
There lies the problem...
You have to use Acrobat Readers 5 and above

-Srikanth 

"Geeta Ramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Clarification:
> 
> I did manage to download the pdf, but cannot seem to open i in Acobat 
> 4.0: the file apparantly is corrupted..
> 
> Geeta
> 
> Geeta Ramani wrote:
> 
> > Hi Srikanth:
> >
> > I tried to download the sample chapter via the link on 
> > http://www.objectsource.com/  but seem to run into trouble..? I got 
> > the following error message on the status bar of my browser: "An 
> > error has occurred while trying to use this document". I am using 
> > Mozilla 5 and Acrobat 4.. Wondering if anybody else is facing this 
> > problem .. and/or if you'd mind sending me the document (offline)?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Geeta
> >
> > Srikanth Shenoy wrote:
> >
> > >  I am the author of Struts Survival Guide - yet another entrant in

> > > the Struts book shelf.
> >
> > 
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Re: Struts book give-away

[Bryce Fischer]

> Clarification:
> 
> I did manage to download the pdf, but cannot seem to open i in Acobat 4.0:
> the file apparantly is corrupted..
> 
> Geeta

I downloaded and opened fine. You are using a very old version of
Acrobat. My version is 6.0, so maybe it only supports a newer version?

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RE: Struts book give-away

[Smith, Darrin]

I posted a question on using Struts with EJB but it got removed!
 
I assume that since the book doesn't cover this that it wouldn't be
discussed so that's why it was taken off?

-Original Message-
From: Srikanth Shenoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Struts book give-away


Hi all,
 
I am the author of Struts Survival Guide - yet another entrant in the Struts
book shelf.
There is a free Struts book give-away of my book at JavaRanch this week.
Interested can go to
http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum

&f=58 and post a question or respond to an existing one and are
automatically entered into the contest. Four lucky winners will get a book
each.
 
See you there.
 
  Srikanth Shenoy
  Author
  Struts Survival Guide:  
Basics to Best Practices
  J2EE  
Project Survival Guide

 

Re: Struts book give-away

[Geeta Ramani]

Clarification:

I did manage to download the pdf, but cannot seem to open i in Acobat 4.0:
the file apparantly is corrupted..

Geeta

Geeta Ramani wrote:

> Hi Srikanth:
>
> I tried to download the sample chapter via the link on
> http://www.objectsource.com/  but seem to run into trouble..? I got the
> following error message on the status bar of my browser: "An error has
> occurred while trying to use this document". I am using Mozilla 5 and
> Acrobat 4.. Wondering if anybody else is facing this problem .. and/or
> if you'd mind sending me the document (offline)?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Geeta
>
> Srikanth Shenoy wrote:
>
> >  I am the author of Struts Survival Guide - yet another entrant in the
> > Struts book shelf.
>
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Re: Struts book give-away

[Geeta Ramani]

Hi Srikanth:

I tried to download the sample chapter via the link on
http://www.objectsource.com/  but seem to run into trouble..? I got the
following error message on the status bar of my browser: "An error has
occurred while trying to use this document". I am using Mozilla 5 and
Acrobat 4.. Wondering if anybody else is facing this problem .. and/or
if you'd mind sending me the document (offline)?

Thanks in advance!
Geeta

Srikanth Shenoy wrote:

>  I am the author of Struts Survival Guide - yet another entrant in the
> Struts book shelf.


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RE: struts book

[John Espey]

James-
Probably to put [OT] when you drop into the realm of Off Topic

> -Original Message-
> From: James Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:10 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: struts book
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:59 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: struts book
> >
> > Does anyone think after reading this post that Vic isn't a standup
> > guy?
> >
> > Not only does he recommend some else's book over his because it is
> > newer, he also gives a website location where you can get the text of
> > his book for free; all of which mean no revenue for him.
> >
> > Anyway, nice to see honest opinions on this stuff while disregarding
> > personal gain.
>
> Goodness, whatever would Ayn Rand say?
>
> -= J
>
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:21:13PM -0500, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> > > I would recommend you get his:
> > > http://www.manning.com/ebook_buy.html?project=husted
> > >
> > > My book is almost 18 months old and  included in Doco of
> > > basicPortal.com.
> > >
> > > .V
> > >
> > > Griemens, Guenter wrote:
> > > >Does anybody knows about to get Vik Cekvenich's
> > basebeans-book about struts
> > > >(2001) in Germany by another (quicker) way than amazon?
> > > >
> > > >Günter Griemens
> > > >D-60261  Frankfurt
> > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kirby Vandivort  Theoretical and
> > Computational Biophysics
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  3051 Beckman Institute
> > http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~kvandivo/University of Illinois
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RE: struts book

[James Childers]

> -Original Message-
> From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: struts book
> 
> Does anyone think after reading this post that Vic isn't a standup
> guy?  
> 
> Not only does he recommend some else's book over his because it is
> newer, he also gives a website location where you can get the text of
> his book for free; all of which mean no revenue for him.
> 
> Anyway, nice to see honest opinions on this stuff while disregarding
> personal gain.

Goodness, whatever would Ayn Rand say?

-= J

> 
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:21:13PM -0500, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> > I would recommend you get his:
> > http://www.manning.com/ebook_buy.html?project=husted
> > 
> > My book is almost 18 months old and  included in Doco of 
> > basicPortal.com.
> > 
> > .V
> > 
> > Griemens, Guenter wrote:
> > >Does anybody knows about to get Vik Cekvenich's 
> basebeans-book about struts
> > >(2001) in Germany by another (quicker) way than amazon?
> > >
> > >Günter Griemens
> > >D-60261  Frankfurt
> > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirby Vandivort  Theoretical and 
> Computational Biophysics 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  3051 Beckman Institute
> http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~kvandivo/University of Illinois
> Phone: (217) 244-5711405 N. Mathews Ave
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Re: struts book

[Kirby Vandivort]

Does anyone think after reading this post that Vic isn't a standup
guy?  

Not only does he recommend some else's book over his because it is
newer, he also gives a website location where you can get the text of
his book for free; all of which mean no revenue for him.

Anyway, nice to see honest opinions on this stuff while disregarding
personal gain.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:21:13PM -0500, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> I would recommend you get his:
> http://www.manning.com/ebook_buy.html?project=husted
> 
> My book is almost 18 months old and  included in Doco of 
> basicPortal.com.
> 
> .V
> 
> Griemens, Guenter wrote:
> >Does anybody knows about to get Vik Cekvenich's basebeans-book about struts
> >(2001) in Germany by another (quicker) way than amazon?
> >
> >Günter Griemens
> >D-60261  Frankfurt
> >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  3051 Beckman Institute
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Re: struts book

[Vic Cekvenich]

I would recommend you get his:
http://www.manning.com/ebook_buy.html?project=husted
My book is almost 18 months old and  included in Doco of 
basicPortal.com.

.V

Griemens, Guenter wrote:
Does anybody knows about to get Vik Cekvenich's basebeans-book about struts
(2001) in Germany by another (quicker) way than amazon?
Günter Griemens
D-60261  Frankfurt
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RE: Struts book reviews

[Mark Galbreath]

I liked "Duct-tape Engineering," but "Read The FINE Manual???"  Bloody Brits
can't even get RTFM right!
(http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/27/1559200&mode=thread&tid=1
08 for anybody who's interested). Seriously, I haven't got this one yet, but
will after reading your review.  I'm due to write 3 reviews on Amazon
myself.

I just got "Java Enterprise Best Practices" (O'Reilly, 2003) and was very
disappointed that Craig didn't have a best practices essay included,
especially when there are chapters on servlets (Jason Hunter), JSP (Hans
Bergsten), and internationalization (Czarnecki and Deitsch).

Mark

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Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:01 PM


Welcome back Mark! Fridays have just not been the same lately.

Did ya like my Slashdot review of Struts Kick Start? :-)

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Re: STRUTS BOOK

[Ted Husted]

In WebDev/Struts, we were very careful to mark all the Struts 1.1 
material. The goal was to make the text accessible to Struts 1.0.x 
developers (which are still legion) as well as Struts 1.1 developers, 
and to help people move from one to other.

This approach will also make it easier to publish updates on any details 
that change between the betas and Struts 1.1 final.

-Ted.

Kirby Vandivort wrote:

> Question..  are any of the three books, husted, chuck, or james written
> TO version 1.1?  Amazon doesn't give details on any of the three, and
> Ted's page mentions a chapter that talks about 1.1, but I'm wondering
> if anything is out there yet that is actually written from the core up
> to use 1.1.  My guess is that it is too early for such a beast, but I
> figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
> 
> 
>>The Introduction was one of the trickier parts of the book for us. The
>>publisher kept saying the original first chapter wasn't the beginning.
>>We were starting with Struts, but they wanted to start sooner than that.
>>They also wanted a hands-on Struts example in the first chapter. I had
>>no idea how to do all that in a single first chapter. Then George
>>Franciscus came to the rescue with a very tightly written introductory
>>chapter. It covers the basics of the underlying technologies and then
>>leaps right into a working Struts application!
>>
>>The "trick" George came up for the example was to include the prebuilt
>>classes in the download. That way, we didn't have to get into the build
>>issues before showing people what it is "like" to develop in Struts.
>>
>>In fact, the new "Enabling Technologies" section of the Struts User
>>guide grew out of the work we did with our own chapter 1. Of course,
>>ours has more text than hyperlinks (but that's what you have to do in
>>print).
>>
>>We'll be posting the Tiles and Validator chapters as our book examples
>>Real Soon Now. Of course, Cedric and David drafted those. We decided to
>>post these two since Tiles and Validator and the least documented parts
>>of the framework right now. As example chapters, we will be able to keep
>>them up indefinitely.
>>
>>-Ted.
>>
>>
>>Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just got James' "Mastering Jakarta Struts" (Wiley 2002) last night from
>>>Amazon.  Scanning through it, the layout and coverage looks very
>>>
>>good.  If I
>>
>>>have one criticism at this time, it's that anyone wanting to "master
>>>
>>Jakarta
>>
>>>Struts" already knows about web applications and servlet containers.
>>>
>> There
>>
>>>was no need to spend the first 60 pages of the book on those subjects
>>>(especially the Tomcat-specific stuff).
>>>
>>>Chuck and Ted: yours are preordered.  ;-)
>>>
>>>Mark


-- 
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co-author, Java Web Development with Struts
Order it today:



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RE: STRUTS BOOK

[Galbreath, Mark]

Can't say about Ted's, but Chuck states specifically that his text is based
on "1.1 beta" and James' states on page 59, simply "1.1" (which I think is a
bit disingenuous).

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From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: STRUTS BOOK


Question..  are any of the three books, husted, chuck, or james written
TO version 1.1?  Amazon doesn't give details on any of the three, and
Ted's page mentions a chapter that talks about 1.1, but I'm wondering
if anything is out there yet that is actually written from the core up
to use 1.1.  My guess is that it is too early for such a beast, but I
figured it couldn't hurt to ask.

>The Introduction was one of the trickier parts of the book for us. The
>publisher kept saying the original first chapter wasn't the beginning.
>We were starting with Struts, but they wanted to start sooner than that.
>They also wanted a hands-on Struts example in the first chapter. I had
>no idea how to do all that in a single first chapter. Then George
>Franciscus came to the rescue with a very tightly written introductory
>chapter. It covers the basics of the underlying technologies and then
>leaps right into a working Struts application!
>
>The "trick" George came up for the example was to include the prebuilt
>classes in the download. That way, we didn't have to get into the build
>issues before showing people what it is "like" to develop in Struts.
>
>In fact, the new "Enabling Technologies" section of the Struts User
>guide grew out of the work we did with our own chapter 1. Of course,
>ours has more text than hyperlinks (but that's what you have to do in
>print).
>
>We'll be posting the Tiles and Validator chapters as our book examples
>Real Soon Now. Of course, Cedric and David drafted those. We decided to
>post these two since Tiles and Validator and the least documented parts
>of the framework right now. As example chapters, we will be able to keep
>them up indefinitely.
>
>-Ted.
>
>
>Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> > Just got James' "Mastering Jakarta Struts" (Wiley 2002) last night from
> > Amazon.  Scanning through it, the layout and coverage looks very
>good.  If I
> > have one criticism at this time, it's that anyone wanting to "master
>Jakarta
> > Struts" already knows about web applications and servlet containers.
>  There
> > was no need to spend the first 60 pages of the book on those subjects
> > (especially the Tomcat-specific stuff).
> >
> > Chuck and Ted: yours are preordered.  ;-)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
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Re: STRUTS BOOK

[chuckcavaness]

Kirby,

  I can only speak about my book, but I would suspect 
the one from Ted and the gang is the same, is all about 
1.1. Fortunately for developers using 1.0, backwards 
compatability was one of the goals of 1.1 and those 
forced to use 1.0 will still find great value in these 
books. I'm not sure about the others, however.

Chuck
> Question..  are any of the three books, husted, chuck, or james written
> TO version 1.1?  Amazon doesn't give details on any of the three, and
> Ted's page mentions a chapter that talks about 1.1, but I'm wondering
> if anything is out there yet that is actually written from the core up
> to use 1.1.  My guess is that it is too early for such a beast, but I
> figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
> 
> >The Introduction was one of the trickier parts of the book for us. The
> >publisher kept saying the original first chapter wasn't the beginning.
> >We were starting with Struts, but they wanted to start sooner than that.
> >They also wanted a hands-on Struts example in the first chapter. I had
> >no idea how to do all that in a single first chapter. Then George
> >Franciscus came to the rescue with a very tightly written introductory
> >chapter. It covers the basics of the underlying technologies and then
> >leaps right into a working Struts application!
> >
> >The "trick" George came up for the example was to include the prebuilt
> >classes in the download. That way, we didn't have to get into the build
> >issues before showing people what it is "like" to develop in Struts.
> >
> >In fact, the new "Enabling Technologies" section of the Struts User
> >guide grew out of the work we did with our own chapter 1. Of course,
> >ours has more text than hyperlinks (but that's what you have to do in
> >print).
> >
> >We'll be posting the Tiles and Validator chapters as our book examples
> >Real Soon Now. Of course, Cedric and David drafted those. We decided to
> >post these two since Tiles and Validator and the least documented parts
> >of the framework right now. As example chapters, we will be able to keep
> >them up indefinitely.
> >
> >-Ted.
> >
> >
> >Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> >
> > > Just got James' "Mastering Jakarta Struts" (Wiley 2002) last night from
> > > Amazon.  Scanning through it, the layout and coverage looks very
> >good.  If I
> > > have one criticism at this time, it's that anyone wanting to "master
> >Jakarta
> > > Struts" already knows about web applications and servlet containers.
> >  There
> > > was no need to spend the first 60 pages of the book on those subjects
> > > (especially the Tomcat-specific stuff).
> > >
> > > Chuck and Ted: yours are preordered.  ;-)
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> >
> >--
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> >co-author, Java Web Development with Struts
> >Order it today:
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Re: STRUTS BOOK

[Kirby Vandivort]

Question..  are any of the three books, husted, chuck, or james written
TO version 1.1?  Amazon doesn't give details on any of the three, and
Ted's page mentions a chapter that talks about 1.1, but I'm wondering
if anything is out there yet that is actually written from the core up
to use 1.1.  My guess is that it is too early for such a beast, but I
figured it couldn't hurt to ask.

>The Introduction was one of the trickier parts of the book for us. The
>publisher kept saying the original first chapter wasn't the beginning.
>We were starting with Struts, but they wanted to start sooner than that.
>They also wanted a hands-on Struts example in the first chapter. I had
>no idea how to do all that in a single first chapter. Then George
>Franciscus came to the rescue with a very tightly written introductory
>chapter. It covers the basics of the underlying technologies and then
>leaps right into a working Struts application!
>
>The "trick" George came up for the example was to include the prebuilt
>classes in the download. That way, we didn't have to get into the build
>issues before showing people what it is "like" to develop in Struts.
>
>In fact, the new "Enabling Technologies" section of the Struts User
>guide grew out of the work we did with our own chapter 1. Of course,
>ours has more text than hyperlinks (but that's what you have to do in
>print).
>
>We'll be posting the Tiles and Validator chapters as our book examples
>Real Soon Now. Of course, Cedric and David drafted those. We decided to
>post these two since Tiles and Validator and the least documented parts
>of the framework right now. As example chapters, we will be able to keep
>them up indefinitely.
>
>-Ted.
>
>
>Galbreath, Mark wrote:
>
> > Just got James' "Mastering Jakarta Struts" (Wiley 2002) last night from
> > Amazon.  Scanning through it, the layout and coverage looks very
>good.  If I
> > have one criticism at this time, it's that anyone wanting to "master
>Jakarta
> > Struts" already knows about web applications and servlet containers.
>  There
> > was no need to spend the first 60 pages of the book on those subjects
> > (especially the Tomcat-specific stuff).
> >
> > Chuck and Ted: yours are preordered.  ;-)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
>--
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>co-author, Java Web Development with Struts
>Order it today:
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Re: [STRUTS BOOK]

[chuckcavaness]

I'm sure there is going to be some overlap, but I really 
think that because we (Ted, James Goodwill, James Turner 
and Kevin Bedell, Sue and myself) all come from a 
slighly different background and have different 
experiences, the various Struts soon available will 
complement each other nicely.

Chuck

> The Introduction was one of the trickier parts of the book for us. The 
> publisher kept saying the original first chapter wasn't the beginning. 
> We were starting with Struts, but they wanted to start sooner than that. 
> They also wanted a hands-on Struts example in the first chapter. I had 
> no idea how to do all that in a single first chapter. Then George 
> Franciscus came to the rescue with a very tightly written introductory 
> chapter. It covers the basics of the underlying technologies and then 
> leaps right into a working Struts application!
> 
> The "trick" George came up for the example was to include the prebuilt
> classes in the download. That way, we didn't have to get into the build
> issues before showing people what it is "like" to develop in Struts.
> 
> In fact, the new "Enabling Technologies" section of the Struts User
> guide grew out of the work we did with our own chapter 1. Of course, 
> ours has more text than hyperlinks (but that's what you have to do in 
> print).
> 
> We'll be posting the Tiles and Validator chapters as our book examples 
> Real Soon Now. Of course, Cedric and David drafted those. We decided to 
> post these two since Tiles and Validator and the least documented parts 
> of the framework right now. As example chapters, we will be able to keep 
> them up indefinitely.
> 
> -Ted.
> 
> 
> Galbreath, Mark wrote:
> 
>  > Just got James' "Mastering Jakarta Struts" (Wiley 2002) last night from
>  > Amazon.  Scanning through it, the layout and coverage looks very 
> good.  If I
>  > have one criticism at this time, it's that anyone wanting to "master 
> Jakarta
>  > Struts" already knows about web applications and servlet containers. 
>   There
>  > was no need to spend the first 60 pages of the book on those subjects
>  > (especially the Tomcat-specific stuff).
>  >
>  > Chuck and Ted: yours are preordered.  ;-)
>  >
>  > Mark
>  >
>  >
> 
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[Ted Husted]

The Introduction was one of the trickier parts of the book for us. The 
publisher kept saying the original first chapter wasn't the beginning. 
We were starting with Struts, but they wanted to start sooner than that. 
They also wanted a hands-on Struts example in the first chapter. I had 
no idea how to do all that in a single first chapter. Then George 
Franciscus came to the rescue with a very tightly written introductory 
chapter. It covers the basics of the underlying technologies and then 
leaps right into a working Struts application!

The "trick" George came up for the example was to include the prebuilt
classes in the download. That way, we didn't have to get into the build
issues before showing people what it is "like" to develop in Struts.

In fact, the new "Enabling Technologies" section of the Struts User
guide grew out of the work we did with our own chapter 1. Of course, 
ours has more text than hyperlinks (but that's what you have to do in 
print).

We'll be posting the Tiles and Validator chapters as our book examples 
Real Soon Now. Of course, Cedric and David drafted those. We decided to 
post these two since Tiles and Validator and the least documented parts 
of the framework right now. As example chapters, we will be able to keep 
them up indefinitely.

-Ted.


Galbreath, Mark wrote:

 > Just got James' "Mastering Jakarta Struts" (Wiley 2002) last night from
 > Amazon.  Scanning through it, the layout and coverage looks very 
good.  If I
 > have one criticism at this time, it's that anyone wanting to "master 
Jakarta
 > Struts" already knows about web applications and servlet containers. 
  There
 > was no need to spend the first 60 pages of the book on those subjects
 > (especially the Tomcat-specific stuff).
 >
 > Chuck and Ted: yours are preordered.  ;-)
 >
 > Mark
 >
 >

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Re: struts book

[Peter A. J. Pilgrim]

Galbreath, Mark wrote:
 > Your nomenclature is counter-intuitive.
 >
 > Mark
 >

So this explanation should make it a little clearer what I was saying.




In Java primitive cannot be passed by reference so six months ago
in a possibly now defunct project I wrote a Java ``Union'' class.

class RefValUnion {

  String stringVal;
  int  intVal;
  float floatVal;
  double doubleVal;
  Date dateVal;
  BigDecimal  decimalVal;
  ...

}


In this project I used a master or superclass base action form
to add validation and other extended functionality
For instance I created all the utility date validation
and financial input validation routines in this class


class SuperActionForm extends ActionForm {
 boolean validateDate( String  input, RefValUnion refval  )
 {
...
 }

 boolean validateBigDecimal( String  input, RefValUnion refval  )
 {
...
 }


}



I created ActionForms for the project that extended the master
like this one below. In the validate method I used the
validate method in the super class to check the user input.
All the validate methods return boolean value true or false.
If the result is false then the validation failed
otherwise the validation is successful.
Almost all of the validate methods perform some conversion,
the result is saved inside the reference value union
`RefValUnion' this can be used by programmer.


class CalcTaxActionForm extends SuperActionForm {

 String amountText;
 BigDecimal amount;

 public String getAmountAsText( ) {}
 public void setAmountAsText( String ) {}

 public BigDecimal getAmount() {}
 public void setAmount( BigDecimal ) {}


 ...


 public ActionErrors validate(
HttpServletRequest request, ActionMapping mapping )
 {
ActionErrors errors = new ActionErrors();

// Check user ``tax'' input. I create a reference value
// union

RefValUnion refVal = new RefValUnion();
if ( validateBigDecimal( amountText, refVal )) {
// Conversion worked. The validate method
// saved the conversion result in the union
// so I can use it.
amount = refVal.decimalVal;
}
else {
// Otherwise conversion failed. As normal add a new
// error method to the collection and continue
errors.add( new ActionError( ... ));
}

// More validation here.

return errors;
 }

}


I think too fast for my typing hands sometimes.


The fact is that David Winterfeld's ``Validator'' could have perhaps
saved me from the developing the validate methods in the
super class several months ago. Damn! That is why pick on it
as soon as I saw the chapter 11 uploaded into the
TheServerSide.com. It looks very useful and since the ``Validator''
can validate any JavaBean, then it gave me the idea to use it
against an Enterprise JavaBean or if it can work with mapped
property types then inside the Expresso Framework against a DBObject.

Cool! I hope understood better

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RE: struts book

[Galbreath, Mark]

Chuck,

Now you need to write a followup-book on all the tag libraries and
extensions. :-)

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RE: struts book

[Galbreath, Mark]

Your nomenclature is counter-intuitive.

Mark

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Re: struts book

[Peter A. J. Pilgrim]

Chuck Cavaness wrote:
> It's not going to be available for review, but it will be in the book. 
> I'm still rewriting this very moment :)
> 
> chuck
> 

Struts validator chapter 11 is a good overview for a piece of
complicated kit.

I would suggest that new developer try to write their own validation
with Java in a standard ActionForm before jumeping in the validator
in a first project. You should also say that it possible to write
a validation in Java utility class, and then use that across
ActionForm. The other solution is create a master superclass ActionForm for
your own project that has all the validation code in it. Subclassers
can then use the validation methods.

SuperActionForm extends ActionForm {
Date validateDate( String ) {  }
}


The discussion of the DynaValidationForm and DynaValidationActionForm
was a little unclear on first reading.

Also the ${var:minlength} and ${minlength} needs explanation in the
sample XML for the CheckoutForm. I see you have tried to explain this
in the text ?

The XML does appear very complicated for a beginner or a user especially
during the  tags.

You can declare constant tag in the XML files, but you did not explain
why this is useful? You should say that it allows reference to the same
regexp that is used multiple times in the formset tag content.

I think you should give a little side bar on "overview of regular
expressions". If you find there is too many text, then the section
you should regulate using the Validator without Struts to additional
resources on a web sites.

In the part "Using JavaScript with the validator" is the JavaScript template
definition in the CDATA section required for each and every validator rule.
Do you just write one rule with JavaScript inside it?

In "Internationalising the Validator", it would help if you explained what
each formset was effectively doing. The default locale formset is
validates the frist name and the French locale validates the last name.
Is there a reason that the validation is not different and not the same.

Anyway it was a good read.

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Re: struts book

[Chuck Cavaness]

It's not going to be available for review, but it will be in the book. I'm 
still rewriting this very moment :)

chuck

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Re: Struts book bug?

[Adolfo Miguelez]

Chuck,

you are perfectly right. I have it defined in my web.xml and DTD says that 
it must be defined. Sorry for the wrong feedback. Anyway I am reading the 
book and is really worth.

Regards,



Adolfo,

   It is required according to the DTD and the source code, because there
is not default specified. However, I think I may know how it's working for
you. I'm just guessing here however. Do you have the properties file
specified in the web.xml? Version 1.1 supports backwards-compatibility with
1.X and it will still load the message resources from the web.xml for the
default application. It may be getting the message resources for the
default application from there. Take a look at the
defaultMessageResourcesConfig() method in the ActionServlet class. There's
a note that this will be removed in a later release.

This might be how it's not breaking for you, I'm not really sure. I didn't
see anywhere a default message bundle name is being set. Maybe we're
looking at different versions?

Chuck


At 04:35 PM 6/11/2002 +, you wrote:

>I read in chapter 4, in  element definition of 
>parameters that the parameter "parameter" is required. I think this is not 
>rtue, since I am able to leave it blank and Struts assigns the default one 
>org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE/mi_subapplication as key in the 
>ServletContext for this bundle.
>
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Re: Struts book bug?

[Chuck Cavaness]

Adolfo,

   It is required according to the DTD and the source code, because there 
is not default specified. However, I think I may know how it's working for 
you. I'm just guessing here however. Do you have the properties file 
specified in the web.xml? Version 1.1 supports backwards-compatibility with 
1.X and it will still load the message resources from the web.xml for the 
default application. It may be getting the message resources for the 
default application from there. Take a look at the 
defaultMessageResourcesConfig() method in the ActionServlet class. There's 
a note that this will be removed in a later release.

This might be how it's not breaking for you, I'm not really sure. I didn't 
see anywhere a default message bundle name is being set. Maybe we're 
looking at different versions?

Chuck


At 04:35 PM 6/11/2002 +, you wrote:

>I read in chapter 4, in  element definition of 
>parameters that the parameter "parameter" is required. I think this is not 
>rtue, since I am able to leave it blank and Struts assigns the default one 
>org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE/mi_subapplication as key in the 
>ServletContext for this bundle.
>
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Re: Struts book

[George White]

Dick,

I look forward to your comments.

Thanks,
George

- Original Message -
From: "Dick Starr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Struts book


> George:
>
> Here is a recent posting from Vic regarding his book. It is available from
> www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00670.htm  for $49.00 and is expected in their
> warehouse 1/4/2002 (no books have shipped yet); it will be available from
> Amazon somewhat later. I have ordered it and will report my opinion once I
> receive it. I did buy "Professessional JSP 2nd Edition" published by Wrox
> and available from www.bookpool.com (a great place to buy technical
books).
>
> Sincerely:
>
> Dick Starr
>
> :-[
> I will take the blame for Atlas. Their real price is $49 and retro
> active, so you (and others) should see that on your credit bill, but I
> can't help much, no mater how much I want. I went with them since they
> promised 10 day print. They will ship it before Amazon.  I hope you like
> the book when you get it. It is a programmer book, but this book bus. is
> not what I do as you can tell. My intention was to get out something
> timely, but imperfect (as per "Cathedral and Bazaar") and expose it to
> day light.
> :-[
> Vic
> (my 2nd edition will be with a major publisher, and more writers/editors
> (based on my public training) due in 8 months. and I will have a lot
> less control, but hopefully they know what they are doing. At this time,
> I do not think I will re-print this version of book,  so quantity is
> going to be limited, less then 800 at this time) :-[
>
> Nathan Anderson wrote:
>
> >Vic,
> >
> >Amazon seems to be charging $59.95 not $80 like expected.  I'm not about
to
> >change my order from Atlasbooks.com, but all of this mis-information is
> >starting to wear me thin.  I can understand why you expected atlasbooks
to
> >ship much sooner than they will, but now with Amazon being cheaper and a
> >similar shipping date.. it's starting to make you look pretty bad.  I
> really
> >hope that this book meets my expectations..  I am glad to hear that the
> >"editorial review" from Amazon sounds pretty close to what I have been
> >expecting.
> >
> >Nathan Anderson
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:14 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Struts book on Amazon ...
> >
> >
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971661901/qid=1008701555/sr=1-3/ref
> =
> >sr_1_0_3/102-5929920-5059309
> >(easier to order)
> >
> >but the publisher will ship it much sooner and they "should" charge $10
> >less from:
> >http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00670.htm
> >but ordering from them could be a challenge, according to the posts.  I
> >have asked them to improve it, and they said they would.
> >
> >Some reviews at news.basebeans.com : mvc programmers.
> >
> >Vic
> >
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Re: Struts book

[Dick Starr]

George:

Here is a recent posting from Vic regarding his book. It is available from
www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00670.htm  for $49.00 and is expected in their
warehouse 1/4/2002 (no books have shipped yet); it will be available from
Amazon somewhat later. I have ordered it and will report my opinion once I
receive it. I did buy "Professessional JSP 2nd Edition" published by Wrox
and available from www.bookpool.com (a great place to buy technical books).

Sincerely:

Dick Starr

:-[
I will take the blame for Atlas. Their real price is $49 and retro
active, so you (and others) should see that on your credit bill, but I
can't help much, no mater how much I want. I went with them since they
promised 10 day print. They will ship it before Amazon.  I hope you like
the book when you get it. It is a programmer book, but this book bus. is
not what I do as you can tell. My intention was to get out something
timely, but imperfect (as per "Cathedral and Bazaar") and expose it to
day light.
:-[
Vic
(my 2nd edition will be with a major publisher, and more writers/editors
(based on my public training) due in 8 months. and I will have a lot
less control, but hopefully they know what they are doing. At this time,
I do not think I will re-print this version of book,  so quantity is
going to be limited, less then 800 at this time) :-[

Nathan Anderson wrote:

>Vic,
>
>Amazon seems to be charging $59.95 not $80 like expected.  I'm not about to
>change my order from Atlasbooks.com, but all of this mis-information is
>starting to wear me thin.  I can understand why you expected atlasbooks to
>ship much sooner than they will, but now with Amazon being cheaper and a
>similar shipping date.. it's starting to make you look pretty bad.  I
really
>hope that this book meets my expectations..  I am glad to hear that the
>"editorial review" from Amazon sounds pretty close to what I have been
>expecting.
>
>Nathan Anderson
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:14 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Struts book on Amazon ...
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971661901/qid=1008701555/sr=1-3/ref
=
>sr_1_0_3/102-5929920-5059309
>(easier to order)
>
>but the publisher will ship it much sooner and they "should" charge $10
>less from:
>http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00670.htm
>but ordering from them could be a challenge, according to the posts.  I
>have asked them to improve it, and they said they would.
>
>Some reviews at news.basebeans.com : mvc programmers.
>
>Vic
>
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- Original Message -
From: "George White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Struts book


I heard that someone published a struts book.
Has anyone had a chance to read it -- How does it compare to on-line
documentation?

Thanks




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Re: Struts book on Amazon ...

[Nathan Anderson]

It is good to hear that Atlas will be crediting my credit card for the difference.  
That does make me feel a bit better about the situation.  

I'll have to look into whether or not we recieved that credit [or the original charge] 
on the card yet.

Nathan
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Re: Struts book on Amazon ...

[Vic Cekvenich]

  :-[
I will take the blame for Atlas. Their real price is $49 and retro 
active, so you (and others) should see that on your credit bill, but I 
can't help much, no mater how much I want. I went with them since they 
promised 10 day print. They will ship it before Amazon.  I hope you like 
the book when you get it. It is a programmer book, but this book bus. is 
not what I do as you can tell. My intention was to get out something 
timely, but imperfect (as per "Cathedral and Bazaar") and expose it to 
day light.
:-[
Vic
(my 2nd edition will be with a major publisher, and more writers/editors 
(based on my public training) due in 8 months. and I will have a lot 
less control, but hopefully they know what they are doing. At this time, 
I do not think I will re-print this version of book,  so quantity is 
going to be limited, less then 800 at this time) :-[

Nathan Anderson wrote:

>Vic,
>
>Amazon seems to be charging $59.95 not $80 like expected.  I'm not about to
>change my order from Atlasbooks.com, but all of this mis-information is
>starting to wear me thin.  I can understand why you expected atlasbooks to
>ship much sooner than they will, but now with Amazon being cheaper and a
>similar shipping date.. it's starting to make you look pretty bad.  I really
>hope that this book meets my expectations..  I am glad to hear that the
>"editorial review" from Amazon sounds pretty close to what I have been
>expecting.
>
>Nathan Anderson
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:14 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Struts book on Amazon ...
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971661901/qid=1008701555/sr=1-3/ref=
>sr_1_0_3/102-5929920-5059309
>(easier to order)
>
>but the publisher will ship it much sooner and they "should" charge $10
>less from:
>http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00670.htm
>but ordering from them could be a challenge, according to the posts.  I
>have asked them to improve it, and they said they would.
>
>Some reviews at news.basebeans.com : mvc programmers.
>
>Vic
>
>
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RE: Struts book on Amazon ...

[Nathan Anderson]

Vic,

Amazon seems to be charging $59.95 not $80 like expected.  I'm not about to
change my order from Atlasbooks.com, but all of this mis-information is
starting to wear me thin.  I can understand why you expected atlasbooks to
ship much sooner than they will, but now with Amazon being cheaper and a
similar shipping date.. it's starting to make you look pretty bad.  I really
hope that this book meets my expectations..  I am glad to hear that the
"editorial review" from Amazon sounds pretty close to what I have been
expecting.

Nathan Anderson


-Original Message-
From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Struts book on Amazon ...


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971661901/qid=1008701555/sr=1-3/ref=
sr_1_0_3/102-5929920-5059309
(easier to order)

but the publisher will ship it much sooner and they "should" charge $10
less from:
http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/00670.htm
but ordering from them could be a challenge, according to the posts.  I
have asked them to improve it, and they said they would.

Some reviews at news.basebeans.com : mvc programmers.

Vic



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