Tiles And Frames

2004-02-05 Thread Mutreja, Shitij
Is there a good place/article/sample code  to check out, for mixing
framesets and tiles. The App that I am working on seems to need to use both.
Basically, we have to display content such that there are 2 frames, the left
one showing some text, while the right one accepts user input. Both these
also need to be scrollable separately.
Am reposting this question. Sorry am desperate for an answer. Has anyone
ever tried using framesets from within tiles instead of the other way
around?


My intention is to somehow include these frames within a Body tile. The
other issue is that there is also a footer tile, which might need to include
a frameset. The reason being the the control buttons need to always be
visible(without having to scroll to view them).


Here is what i tried:

Layout used for the Body:
div id=content-well
tiles:insert attribute=quiz/
tiles:insert attribute=quizfooter/
/div

quiz actually has a value in the tile-defs that points to the
quizcontent.jsp shown below:

frameset cols=20,720,*
frame frameborder=0
frameset cols=360,*
frame frameborder=0
src=/practicequizzes/quiz.jsp
frame frameborder=0
src=/practicequizzes/quiz.jsp
/frameset
frame frameborder=0
/frameset

The problem with this is that the /practicequizzes/quiz.jsp is never
actually sourced and I just see nothing in the body tile.

Thanks,


Shitij Mutreja
The College Board
11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 300
Reston, VA 20190
571.262.5701 (Phone)
703.707.5596 (Fax)
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Re: Tiles And Frames

2004-02-05 Thread Michael McGrady
For you Tiles devotees out there, I think this would be something that 
would be really helpful.  This is a recurring question.  I know!  I 
know!  If I have time, I will, after the other stuff.  Just a second of 
this need.

At 10:35 AM 2/5/2004, Mutreja, Shitij wrote:
Is there a good place/article/sample code  to check out, for mixing
framesets and tiles. The App that I am working on seems to need to use both.
Basically, we have to display content such that there are 2 frames, the left
one showing some text, while the right one accepts user input. Both these
also need to be scrollable separately.
Am reposting this question. Sorry am desperate for an answer. Has anyone
ever tried using framesets from within tiles instead of the other way
around?
My intention is to somehow include these frames within a Body tile. The
other issue is that there is also a footer tile, which might need to include
a frameset. The reason being the the control buttons need to always be
visible(without having to scroll to view them).
Here is what i tried:

Layout used for the Body:
div id=content-well
tiles:insert attribute=quiz/
tiles:insert attribute=quizfooter/
/div
quiz actually has a value in the tile-defs that points to the
quizcontent.jsp shown below:
frameset cols=20,720,*
frame frameborder=0
frameset cols=360,*
frame frameborder=0
src=/practicequizzes/quiz.jsp
frame frameborder=0
src=/practicequizzes/quiz.jsp
/frameset
frame frameborder=0
/frameset
The problem with this is that the /practicequizzes/quiz.jsp is never
actually sourced and I just see nothing in the body tile.
Thanks,

Shitij Mutreja
The College Board
11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 300
Reston, VA 20190
571.262.5701 (Phone)
703.707.5596 (Fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.collegeboard.com/highered/index.html


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Re: Tiles And Frames

2004-02-05 Thread Adam L
According to:  http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/frames.html

16.2 Layout of frames
An HTML document that describes frame layout (called a frameset document)
has a different makeup than an HTML document without frames. A standard
document has one HEAD section and one BODY. A frameset document has a HEAD,
and a FRAMESET in place of the BODY.


So, it's not so much a question of doing it within tiles, so much as not
allowed by HTML.   How you generate your final html is irrelevant (tiles,
includes, ssi, tags, etc).  What is important is the final product to be
read by the browser.


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 For you Tiles devotees out there, I think this would be something that
 would be really helpful.  This is a recurring question.  I know!  I
 know!  If I have time, I will, after the other stuff.  Just a second of
 this need.

 At 10:35 AM 2/5/2004, Mutreja, Shitij wrote:
 Is there a good place/article/sample code  to check out, for mixing
 framesets and tiles. The App that I am working on seems to need to use
both.
 Basically, we have to display content such that there are 2 frames, the
left
 one showing some text, while the right one accepts user input. Both these
 also need to be scrollable separately.
 Am reposting this question. Sorry am desperate for an answer. Has anyone
 ever tried using framesets from within tiles instead of the other way
 around?
 
 
 My intention is to somehow include these frames within a Body tile. The
 other issue is that there is also a footer tile, which might need to
include
 a frameset. The reason being the the control buttons need to always be
 visible(without having to scroll to view them).
 
 
 Here is what i tried:
 
 Layout used for the Body:
  div id=content-well
  tiles:insert attribute=quiz/
  tiles:insert attribute=quizfooter/
  /div
 
 quiz actually has a value in the tile-defs that points to the
 quizcontent.jsp shown below:
 
  frameset cols=20,720,*
  frame frameborder=0
  frameset cols=360,*
  frame frameborder=0
 src=/practicequizzes/quiz.jsp
  frame frameborder=0
 src=/practicequizzes/quiz.jsp
  /frameset
  frame frameborder=0
  /frameset
 
 The problem with this is that the /practicequizzes/quiz.jsp is never
 actually sourced and I just see nothing in the body tile.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Shitij Mutreja
 The College Board
 11911 Freedom Drive, Suite 300
 Reston, VA 20190
 571.262.5701 (Phone)
 703.707.5596 (Fax)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.collegeboard.com/highered/index.html



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Tiles and Frames

2003-10-22 Thread Frers Michael
Hello

did anyone ever tried to combine Frames and Tiles?

i want to build a page with one left and one right frame.

is there any chance to build frames with tiles?

(i need the frames because i get results from database slowly and want to print 
results as soon as they arrive)

if i only use tiles without frames tiles is waiting till all results are printed in 
left side and then prints the right side

so i want to define the frames in my masterlayout looking like
frameset cols=30%,70% border=1 frameborder=1 framespacing=1
 frame src=left name=menu
 frame src=right name=workplace
 /frameset

so how can i use now the 

tiles:insert attribute=left/

instead of left?

all still clear? (*i hope so*)

Michael


Re: Tiles and Frames

2003-10-22 Thread Sonam Belbase
Michael,

Not sure if this works, but I thought I might suggest this:

frame src=tiles:getAsString name='left'/ name=menu
in your layout.

Then in your definition or your jsp you can
assign the path of the jsp with

put name=left  value=/path/to/your/jspfile.jsp /

Hope it works..

SB

Frers Michael wrote:

 Hello

 did anyone ever tried to combine Frames and Tiles?

 i want to build a page with one left and one right frame.

 is there any chance to build frames with tiles?

 (i need the frames because i get results from database slowly and want to print 
 results as soon as they arrive)

 if i only use tiles without frames tiles is waiting till all results are printed in 
 left side and then prints the right side

 so i want to define the frames in my masterlayout looking like
 frameset cols=30%,70% border=1 frameborder=1 framespacing=1
  frame src=left name=menu
  frame src=right name=workplace
  /frameset

 so how can i use now the

 tiles:insert attribute=left/

 instead of left?

 all still clear? (*i hope so*)

 Michael

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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-28 Thread K.C. Baltz
Overflow is actually a standard CSS feature that IE only partially 
supports.  In Mozilla, you can do this with a lot more elements 
including tables where the header remains fixed while the data scrolls. 

K.C.

Mike Jasnowski wrote:

Well, depending on the web client you are using, IE has a feature that
enables some block level elements like DIV to be scrollable.  You can set
an overflow CSS property that enables a scrollbar to appear.There are
also cross-browser solutions for making independent (non-frame) scrollable
areas of content.
-Original Message-
From: Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames
I had the same problem .. while developing a Menu (left side) .. wanted to
make that scrollable ..
But I guess its not possible with Tiles I guess ..  Infact try doing it
without tiles (and without frames) .. its not possible . And if somehow if
its really possible .. I would definately like to know that ..
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:57 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: A question on Tiles and Frames
Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts
and Tiles?
-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:

 

The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway
possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.
So, you can't hide them.
  Cedric

 Cedric

Jeff Kyser wrote:

   

Hey Cedric,

Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have
independently
scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
making every page publicly accessible?
thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

-jeff

 

Hi,

Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue
an independent http request to the web server. So each page
corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web
server, and can't be under WEB-INF.
 Cedric
   

 

but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath
the WEB-INF directory and
   

therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs
underneath WEB-INF?
(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,
and am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles
without exposing all
my JSPs.
TIA,

-jeff


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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Cedric Dumoulin
 Hi,

 Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue an 
independent http request to the web server. So each page corresponding 
to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web server, and can't be 
under WEB-INF.

  Cedric

Jeff Kyser wrote:

Hello,

I was trying to use a Tile Definition like:

definition name=associator.masterPage
path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/framesetLayout.jsp
put name=title   value=Associator /
put name=heading value=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/heading.jsp /
put name=codevalue=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/emptyMenu.jsp /
put name=menuvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/menu.jsp /
put name=button  value=/WEB-INF/pages/button.jsp/
put name=textvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/categories.jsp/
/definition
with a framesetLayout.jsp that looks like:

frameset rows=137,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=heading / name=heading scrolling=NO noresize
frameset cols=217,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frameset rows=0,* frameborder=NO border=0 
framespacing=0
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=code /   
name=code
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=menu /   
name=menu
/frameset
frameset rows=26%,* frameborder=0 border=0 
framespacing=5 cols=*
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=button / 
name=button noresize/
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=text /   
name=text noresize/
/frameset
/frameset
/frameset

but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath the 
WEB-INF directory and
therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs underneath 
WEB-INF?

(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel, and 
am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles 
without exposing all
my JSPs.

TIA,

-jeff

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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Jeff Kyser
Hey Cedric,

Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have independently
scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
making every page publicly accessible?
thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

-jeff

 Hi,

 Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue an 
independent http request to the web server. So each page corresponding 
to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web server, and can't 
be under WEB-INF.

  Cedric


but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath the 
WEB-INF directory and
therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs 
underneath WEB-INF?

(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel, and 
am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles 
without exposing all
my JSPs.

TIA,

-jeff

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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Cedric Dumoulin
 The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway 
possible to access it directly without the other associated frames. So, 
you can't hide them.

   Cedric

  Cedric

Jeff Kyser wrote:

Hey Cedric,

Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have independently
scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
making every page publicly accessible?
thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

-jeff

 Hi,

 Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue 
an independent http request to the web server. So each page 
corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web 
server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

  Cedric



but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath 
the WEB-INF directory and

therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs 
underneath WEB-INF?

(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel, 
and am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles 
without exposing all
my JSPs.

TIA,

-jeff

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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Jeff Kyser
Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts  
and Tiles?

-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:

 The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway  
possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.  
So, you can't hide them.

   Cedric

  Cedric

Jeff Kyser wrote:

Hey Cedric,

Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have  
independently
scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
making every page publicly accessible?

thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

-jeff

 Hi,

 Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue  
an independent http request to the web server. So each page  
corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web  
server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

  Cedric



but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath  
the WEB-INF directory and

therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs  
underneath WEB-INF?

(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,  
and am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles  
without exposing all
my JSPs.

TIA,

-jeff

 
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RE: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
I had the same problem .. while developing a Menu (left side) .. wanted to
make that scrollable .. 
But I guess its not possible with Tiles I guess ..  Infact try doing it
without tiles (and without frames) .. its not possible . And if somehow if
its really possible .. I would definately like to know that .. 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:57 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: A question on Tiles and Frames


Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts  
and Tiles?

-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:


  The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway  
 possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.  
 So, you can't hide them.

Cedric

   Cedric

 Jeff Kyser wrote:

 Hey Cedric,

 Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
 under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
 a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
 stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
 development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
 it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have  
 independently
 scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
 making every page publicly accessible?

 thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

 -jeff

  Hi,

  Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue  
 an independent http request to the web server. So each page  
 corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web  
 server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

   Cedric



 but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath  
 the WEB-INF directory and

 therefore not accessible.

 Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs  
 underneath WEB-INF?

 (Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,  
 and am trying
 to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles  
 without exposing all
 my JSPs.

 TIA,

 -jeff

  
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RE: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Mike Jasnowski
Well, depending on the web client you are using, IE has a feature that
enables some block level elements like DIV to be scrollable.  You can set
an overflow CSS property that enables a scrollbar to appear.There are
also cross-browser solutions for making independent (non-frame) scrollable
areas of content.

-Original Message-
From: Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


I had the same problem .. while developing a Menu (left side) .. wanted to
make that scrollable ..
But I guess its not possible with Tiles I guess ..  Infact try doing it
without tiles (and without frames) .. its not possible . And if somehow if
its really possible .. I would definately like to know that ..

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:57 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: A question on Tiles and Frames


Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts
and Tiles?

-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:


  The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway
 possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.
 So, you can't hide them.

Cedric

   Cedric

 Jeff Kyser wrote:

 Hey Cedric,

 Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
 under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
 a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
 stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
 development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
 it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have
 independently
 scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
 making every page publicly accessible?

 thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

 -jeff

  Hi,

  Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue
 an independent http request to the web server. So each page
 corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web
 server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

   Cedric



 but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath
 the WEB-INF directory and

 therefore not accessible.

 Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs
 underneath WEB-INF?

 (Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,
 and am trying
 to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles
 without exposing all
 my JSPs.

 TIA,

 -jeff

 
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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Jason Lea
If you want to use frames then each frame is going to issue it's own 
request.  If you want to hide the JSPs under WEB-INF, then you have to 
front each request with an action because you can't link to the JSP 
directly.

It probably means replacing your definition with:

definition name=associator.masterPage
 path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/framesetLayout.jsp
put name=title   value=Associator /
put name=heading value=/Heading.do /
put name=codevalue=/EmptyMenu.do /
put name=menuvalue=/Menu.do /
put name=button  value=/Button.do/
put name=textvalue=/Categories.do/
/definition
and adding an action mapping to struts-config.xml for each of the items:

action path=/Heading
type=org.apache.struts.actions.ForwardAction
parameter=associator.masterPage.heading/
and then another definition in tiles-def.xml:

definition name=associator.masterPage.heading
path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/heading.jsp
Have to repeat that for code, menu, button, text.  So then if a real 
action wanted to change both code and menu frames, you can create a 
definition that extends the first definition:

definition name=associator.masterPage.newpage
extends=associator.masterPage
put name=title   value=New Definition /
put name=codevalue=/NewCodePage.do /
put name=menuvalue=/NewMenu.do /
/definition
I'm not sure if this will work - as it is 2am here and I am about to go 
to bed :)  But it looks ok to my half-closed eyes

Jeff Kyser wrote:
Hello,

I was trying to use a Tile Definition like:

definition name=associator.masterPage
path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/framesetLayout.jsp
put name=title   value=Associator /
put name=heading value=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/heading.jsp /
put name=codevalue=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/emptyMenu.jsp /
put name=menuvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/menu.jsp /
put name=button  value=/WEB-INF/pages/button.jsp/
put name=textvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/categories.jsp/
/definition
with a framesetLayout.jsp that looks like:

frameset rows=137,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=heading / name=heading scrolling=NO noresize
frameset cols=217,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frameset rows=0,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=code /   name=code
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=menu /   name=menu
/frameset
frameset rows=26%,* frameborder=0 border=0 
framespacing=5 cols=*
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=button / name=button noresize/
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=text /   name=text noresize/
/frameset
/frameset
/frameset

but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath the 
WEB-INF directory and
therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs underneath 
WEB-INF?

(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel, and am 
trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles 
without exposing all
my JSPs.

TIA,

-jeff

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RE: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
Humm.. seems to be a good solution .. would definately give it a try .. 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Jasnowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


Well, depending on the web client you are using, IE has a feature that
enables some block level elements like DIV to be scrollable.  You can set
an overflow CSS property that enables a scrollbar to appear.There are
also cross-browser solutions for making independent (non-frame) scrollable
areas of content.

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From: Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


I had the same problem .. while developing a Menu (left side) .. wanted to
make that scrollable ..
But I guess its not possible with Tiles I guess ..  Infact try doing it
without tiles (and without frames) .. its not possible . And if somehow if
its really possible .. I would definately like to know that ..

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:57 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: A question on Tiles and Frames


Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts
and Tiles?

-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:


  The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway
 possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.
 So, you can't hide them.

Cedric

   Cedric

 Jeff Kyser wrote:

 Hey Cedric,

 Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
 under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
 a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
 stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
 development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
 it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have
 independently
 scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
 making every page publicly accessible?

 thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

 -jeff

  Hi,

  Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue
 an independent http request to the web server. So each page
 corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web
 server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

   Cedric



 but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath
 the WEB-INF directory and

 therefore not accessible.

 Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs
 underneath WEB-INF?

 (Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,
 and am trying
 to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles
 without exposing all
 my JSPs.

 TIA,

 -jeff

 
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RE: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Hookom, Jacob
I would be using iframes.  It's surprisingly standard and works just like a
frame, but placed on the page much like an image.  I've done a few things
with them on a project with displaying a shopping cart, forum data, etc.


Jacob Hookom
Senior Programmer/Analyst
McKesson Medical Surgical
Golden Valley, MN


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Humm.. seems to be a good solution .. would definately give it a try .. 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Jasnowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


Well, depending on the web client you are using, IE has a feature that
enables some block level elements like DIV to be scrollable.  You can set
an overflow CSS property that enables a scrollbar to appear.There are
also cross-browser solutions for making independent (non-frame) scrollable
areas of content.

-Original Message-
From: Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


I had the same problem .. while developing a Menu (left side) .. wanted to
make that scrollable ..
But I guess its not possible with Tiles I guess ..  Infact try doing it
without tiles (and without frames) .. its not possible . And if somehow if
its really possible .. I would definately like to know that ..

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:57 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: A question on Tiles and Frames


Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts
and Tiles?

-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:


  The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway
 possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.
 So, you can't hide them.

Cedric

   Cedric

 Jeff Kyser wrote:

 Hey Cedric,

 Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
 under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
 a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
 stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
 development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
 it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have
 independently
 scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
 making every page publicly accessible?

 thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

 -jeff

  Hi,

  Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue
 an independent http request to the web server. So each page
 corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web
 server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

   Cedric



 but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath
 the WEB-INF directory and

 therefore not accessible.

 Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs
 underneath WEB-INF?

 (Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,
 and am trying
 to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles
 without exposing all
 my JSPs.

 TIA,

 -jeff

 
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RE: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Mike Jasnowski
Yeah, you can use iframes too. But I've always stated away from them since
apps I worked on had to support older versions of NS.  Surprisingly you can
create scrollable areas, with dynamically loadable content with not that
much effort. There are a couple of x-browser API's that have components for
doing this, the one I know off the top of my head is DynAPI, originated at
www.dansteinman.com.   I think there is a sourceforge project for it as
well.

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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:26 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


I would be using iframes.  It's surprisingly standard and works just like a
frame, but placed on the page much like an image.  I've done a few things
with them on a project with displaying a shopping cart, forum data, etc.


Jacob Hookom
Senior Programmer/Analyst
McKesson Medical Surgical
Golden Valley, MN


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From: Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:27 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


Humm.. seems to be a good solution .. would definately give it a try ..

-Original Message-
From: Mike Jasnowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


Well, depending on the web client you are using, IE has a feature that
enables some block level elements like DIV to be scrollable.  You can set
an overflow CSS property that enables a scrollbar to appear.There are
also cross-browser solutions for making independent (non-frame) scrollable
areas of content.

-Original Message-
From: Nimish Chourey , Tidel Park - Chennai
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: A question on Tiles and Frames


I had the same problem .. while developing a Menu (left side) .. wanted to
make that scrollable ..
But I guess its not possible with Tiles I guess ..  Infact try doing it
without tiles (and without frames) .. its not possible . And if somehow if
its really possible .. I would definately like to know that ..

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:57 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: A question on Tiles and Frames


Okay. So is there *another* way to implement
independently scrollable content within a region of a page using Struts
and Tiles?

-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:17  AM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:


  The page of a frame should alway be publicly accessible. It is alway
 possible to access it directly without the other associated frames.
 So, you can't hide them.

Cedric

   Cedric

 Jeff Kyser wrote:

 Hey Cedric,

 Thanks for the response. I guess I'd figured out I couldn't put them
 under WEB-INF for the reasons you stated. So how can I implement
 a scollable region such as a frame might offer and still use Tiles and
 stay with some of the 'best practices' recommended for Struts
 development such as hiding your JSPs under WEB-INF? I suppose
 it gets off-topic, but surely there must be a way to have
 independently
 scrolled regions of a web page in a Struts environment without
 making every page publicly accessible?

 thanks, I'd sure like some insight as to how to proceed...

 -jeff

  Hi,

  Each frame of a frameset is filled with a web page. Each one issue
 an independent http request to the web server. So each page
 corresponding to a frame should be publicly accessible on the web
 server, and can't be under WEB-INF.

   Cedric



 but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath
 the WEB-INF directory and

 therefore not accessible.

 Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs
 underneath WEB-INF?

 (Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel,
 and am trying
 to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles
 without exposing all
 my JSPs.

 TIA,

 -jeff

 
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Re: A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-20 Thread Jeff Kyser
Hey Jason,

Thanks for putting in the time on a great reply! At this point,
am cautiously optimistic that this will work, or rather that I
can get it to work.  I've got a few frames updating, so it looks
like that's just the ticket. Thanks again!
-jeff

On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 09:17  AM, Jason Lea wrote:

If you want to use frames then each frame is going to issue it's own 
request.  If you want to hide the JSPs under WEB-INF, then you have to 
front each request with an action because you can't link to the JSP 
directly.

It probably means replacing your definition with:

definition name=associator.masterPage
 path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/framesetLayout.jsp
put name=title   value=Associator /
put name=heading value=/Heading.do /
put name=codevalue=/EmptyMenu.do /
put name=menuvalue=/Menu.do /
put name=button  value=/Button.do/
put name=textvalue=/Categories.do/
/definition
and adding an action mapping to struts-config.xml for each of the 
items:

action path=/Heading
type=org.apache.struts.actions.ForwardAction
parameter=associator.masterPage.heading/
and then another definition in tiles-def.xml:

definition name=associator.masterPage.heading
path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/heading.jsp
Have to repeat that for code, menu, button, text.  So then if a real 
action wanted to change both code and menu frames, you can create a 
definition that extends the first definition:

definition name=associator.masterPage.newpage
extends=associator.masterPage
put name=title   value=New Definition /
put name=codevalue=/NewCodePage.do /
put name=menuvalue=/NewMenu.do /
/definition
I'm not sure if this will work - as it is 2am here and I am about to 
go to bed :)  But it looks ok to my half-closed eyes

Jeff Kyser wrote:
Hello,
I was trying to use a Tile Definition like:
definition name=associator.masterPage
path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/framesetLayout.jsp
put name=title   value=Associator /
put name=heading value=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/heading.jsp 
/
put name=code
value=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/emptyMenu.jsp /
put name=menuvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/menu.jsp /
put name=button  value=/WEB-INF/pages/button.jsp/
put name=textvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/categories.jsp/
/definition
with a framesetLayout.jsp that looks like:
frameset rows=137,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=heading / name=heading scrolling=NO noresize
frameset cols=217,* frameborder=NO border=0 
framespacing=0
frameset rows=0,* frameborder=NO border=0 
framespacing=0
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=code /  
 name=code
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=menu /  
 name=menu
/frameset
frameset rows=26%,* frameborder=0 border=0 
framespacing=5 cols=*
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=button 
/ name=button noresize/
frame 
src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString name=text /  
 name=text noresize/
/frameset
/frameset
/frameset
but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath 
the WEB-INF directory and
therefore not accessible.
Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs 
underneath WEB-INF?
(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel, and 
am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles 
without exposing all
my JSPs.
TIA,
-jeff
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A question on Tiles and Frames

2003-06-19 Thread Jeff Kyser
Hello,

I was trying to use a Tile Definition like:

definition name=associator.masterPage
path=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/framesetLayout.jsp
put name=title   value=Associator /
put name=heading value=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/heading.jsp /
put name=codevalue=/WEB-INF/pages/tiles/emptyMenu.jsp 
/
put name=menuvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/menu.jsp /
put name=button  value=/WEB-INF/pages/button.jsp/
put name=textvalue=/WEB-INF/pages/categories.jsp/
/definition

with a framesetLayout.jsp that looks like:

frameset rows=137,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=heading / name=heading scrolling=NO noresize
frameset cols=217,* frameborder=NO border=0 framespacing=0
frameset rows=0,* frameborder=NO border=0 
framespacing=0
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=code /   name=code
	frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=menu /   name=menu
	/frameset
frameset rows=26%,* frameborder=0 border=0 
framespacing=5 cols=*
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=button / name=button noresize/
frame src=%=request.getContextPath()%tiles:getAsString 
name=text /   name=text noresize/
/frameset
/frameset
/frameset

but I get Forbidden errors, presumably because my JSPs are beneath the 
WEB-INF directory and
therefore not accessible.

Is there an alternate way to do this and still have my JSPs underneath 
WEB-INF?

(Basically, I have a frames-based layout with a scrollable panel, and 
am trying
to figure out how to best implement that feature using Struts/Tiles 
without exposing all
my JSPs.

TIA,

-jeff 

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Re: Tiles and Frames.

2002-08-29 Thread Cedric Dumoulin


  It is possible. The Tiles example war has a simple example of using 
frames (tutorial/frameset.jsp, tutorial/basicFramesetPage.jsp, ...)

  Hope this help,
 Cedric

Cristian Cardenas wrote:

I'm using tiles from struts. I'd like to know if it's possible to use Frames with 
Tiles, and what is the way to use it.

Thanks a lot.
Cristian.

  




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Tiles and Frames.

2002-08-21 Thread Cristian Cardenas

I'm using tiles from struts. I'd like to know if it's possible to use Frames with 
Tiles, and what is the way to use it.

Thanks a lot.
Cristian.



Re: Tiles vs. Frames

2002-01-09 Thread Gundars Kulups

Hi,
I'd say, that generally using tiles (or making presentation using single 
frame and tables) leads to less complex application. There might however be 
cases, when using frames could solve a problem or two. We had a system 
where we used hidden frame containing lot of client side information and 
other hidden frame where we reloaded javascripts, which were making changes 
in main frame, where something like 1000 layers where shown and they were 
clickable. I can not imagine how that application could be rewritten 
without using frames (reloading main frame on every click would lead to 
major network load problems). However I must say that to support and extend 
that application, it was nightmare. So, my opinion is that if you can solve 
problem without frames - do it. Besides it might help you, if one day you 
need to port your application do mobile network enabled devices...
Regards,
Gundars
At 15:58 2002.01.08.s +, you wrote:
Hi all,

I've (functionally) prototyped an application using Tiles with no
frames.  Our 'front end' guy has presented me with the presentation html
and javascript, and it uses frames.

The application is not portal-like, just a fairly standard app with a
header, footer and side menu bar.

I've had a search for any information about what would be preferable -
to use tiles or frames, or some combination of both (I'm struggling a
bit with this option), but there's not much out there.

Has anyone had to make this decision?  What are the pros and cons of
frames vs. tiles?  Is it feasible and/or desirable to use them in
combination?

Any input much appreciated.

Cheers,
Sean.


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Tiles vs. Frames

2002-01-08 Thread Sean Gollschewsky

Hi all,

I've (functionally) prototyped an application using Tiles with no
frames.  Our 'front end' guy has presented me with the presentation html
and javascript, and it uses frames.  

The application is not portal-like, just a fairly standard app with a
header, footer and side menu bar.

I've had a search for any information about what would be preferable -
to use tiles or frames, or some combination of both (I'm struggling a
bit with this option), but there's not much out there.

Has anyone had to make this decision?  What are the pros and cons of
frames vs. tiles?  Is it feasible and/or desirable to use them in
combination? 

Any input much appreciated.

Cheers,
Sean.


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RE: Tiles vs. Frames

2002-01-08 Thread Vaughan Jackson

Sean,

I have not used Tiles, so I could be misinformed here. My impression is
that the Tiles are related to JSP includes or templates - they allow
you to compose a single page from a number of pieces. 

Frames on the other hand, allow you to present the user with a number of
separate pages at once.

Frames are client side compositions, whilst templates (and Tiles) are 
server side compositions.

These differences mean that a submission of a page composed with 
Tiles will result in a single request, whereas submission of a frameset
can result in a number of separate requests. This can lead to threading
issues. See
http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg13087.html
for further details of issues.

HTH,
Vaughan.

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 From: Sean Gollschewsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:58 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: Tiles vs. Frames
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've (functionally) prototyped an application using Tiles with no
 frames.  Our 'front end' guy has presented me with the 
 presentation html
 and javascript, and it uses frames.  
 
 The application is not portal-like, just a fairly standard app with a
 header, footer and side menu bar.
 
 I've had a search for any information about what would be preferable -
 to use tiles or frames, or some combination of both (I'm struggling a
 bit with this option), but there's not much out there.
 
 Has anyone had to make this decision?  What are the pros and cons of
 frames vs. tiles?  Is it feasible and/or desirable to use them in
 combination? 
 
 Any input much appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 Sean.
 
 
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