When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Antony Paul
Hi,
Is there any move to support HashMap in place of ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in this archive.

rgds
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RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Kalra, Ashwani
DynaValidator forms stores data in Hashmap internally if you dont want to
define norma action forms.




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Hi,
Is there any move to support HashMap in place of 
ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in 
this archive.

rgds
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RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Navjot Singh
I can't say there will be any move or not.

But MAP backed ActionForms are alreadt there, If you are not interested in
using the actionforms and be contended with just hashmaps. Mostly, not
always, I treat ActionForm as HashMap but with getter setter already
classcasted and defined for properties. not more than that.


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Hi,
Is there any move to support HashMap in place of ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in
this archive.

rgds
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Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Antony Paul
I know that but one have to define 10 to 30 elements in struts-config.xml
for that. With a hash map one have to say whether it is needed ot not. It
could be accessed like DynaValidator form. And my requirement is to store
simple text field values.

rgds
Antony Paul.

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 DynaValidator forms stores data in Hashmap internally if you dont want to
 define norma action forms.




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 Is there any move to support HashMap in place of
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 want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in
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RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Fullam, Jonathan
That's where a map-backed Hashmap is useful.  

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I know that but one have to define 10 to 30 elements in struts-config.xml
for that. With a hash map one have to say whether it is needed ot not. It
could be accessed like DynaValidator form. And my requirement is to store
simple text field values.

rgds
Antony Paul.

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Subject: RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


 DynaValidator forms stores data in Hashmap internally if you dont want to
 define norma action forms.




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Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Antony Paul
but it prints the form field name like this map(username). I want to get the
key as name of form field. here username. possible ?

rgds
Antony Paul.

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 That's where a map-backed Hashmap is useful.

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 From: Antony Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


 I know that but one have to define 10 to 30 elements in struts-config.xml
 for that. With a hash map one have to say whether it is needed ot not. It
 could be accessed like DynaValidator form. And my requirement is to store
 simple text field values.

 rgds
 Antony Paul.

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  DynaValidator forms stores data in Hashmap internally if you dont want
to
  define norma action forms.
 
 
 
 
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  Hi,
  Is there any move to support HashMap in place of
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  this archive.
  
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RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Trieu, Danny
I don't want to offense any one, and all though HashMap or DynaWhatever are
convenience, but isn't it anti OO?  Meaning there are no type checking, and
you are just passing a bag of chunk around?

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I can't say there will be any move or not.

But MAP backed ActionForms are alreadt there, If you are not interested in
using the actionforms and be contended with just hashmaps. Mostly, not
always, I treat ActionForm as HashMap but with getter setter already
classcasted and defined for properties. not more than that.


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From: Antony Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:40 PM
To: struts
Subject: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


Hi,
Is there any move to support HashMap in place of ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in
this archive.

rgds
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RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Hookom, Jacob
Anyone who's done major business application development knows that academic
arguments on programming 'style' get thrown right out the window in favor of
efficient progress ;-)

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I don't want to offense any one, and all though HashMap or DynaWhatever are
convenience, but isn't it anti OO?  Meaning there are no type checking, and
you are just passing a bag of chunk around?

Danny Trieu 
Internet Business Group 
Downey Savings and Loan Association, F.A. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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The essence of knowledge is, having it, to apply it; not having it, to
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From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


I can't say there will be any move or not.

But MAP backed ActionForms are alreadt there, If you are not interested in
using the actionforms and be contended with just hashmaps. Mostly, not
always, I treat ActionForm as HashMap but with getter setter already
classcasted and defined for properties. not more than that.


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Subject: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


Hi,
Is there any move to support HashMap in place of ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in
this archive.

rgds
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Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Guido GarcĂ­a Bernardo
or philosophical purity should always yield to pragmatism

Hookom, Jacob wrote:

Anyone who's done major business application development knows that academic
arguments on programming 'style' get thrown right out the window in favor of
efficient progress ;-)
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From: Trieu, Danny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

I don't want to offense any one, and all though HashMap or DynaWhatever are
convenience, but isn't it anti OO?  Meaning there are no type checking, and
you are just passing a bag of chunk around?
Danny Trieu 
Internet Business Group 
Downey Savings and Loan Association, F.A. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not
understand.
- Frank Herbert (1920-1986)
The essence of knowledge is, having it, to apply it; not having it, to
confess your ignorance.
- Confucius (551-479 BC)


-Original Message-
From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:43 AM
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Subject: RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

I can't say there will be any move or not.

But MAP backed ActionForms are alreadt there, If you are not interested in
using the actionforms and be contended with just hashmaps. Mostly, not
always, I treat ActionForm as HashMap but with getter setter already
classcasted and defined for properties. not more than that.
 

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From: Antony Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:40 PM
To: struts
Subject: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?
Hi,
  Is there any move to support HashMap in place of ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in
this archive.
rgds
Antony Paul.
   

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Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Gus Heck
In my experience (with Ant mostly) the best way to get anything started 
in an apache project is with a patch submitted in the bugzilla :)

Gus

Antony Paul wrote:

Hi,
   Is there any move to support HashMap in place of ActionForm ?. I dont
want to start any argument. I have read a lot on ActionForm in this archive.
rgds
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Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?

2003-12-10 Thread Ted Husted
As mentioned, you can use a map-backed ActionForm to store whatever 
fields you need without defining them elsewhere.

http://tinyurl.com/ymkr

You do need to code the forms a little differently, and your forms still 
need to know what properties/entries to ask for.

Personally, I would strongly recommnend using DynaActionForms. The 
overhead of defining the elements in the configuration is negligable in 
practice, and it clearly defines which properties are used with which 
forms.

In practice, what really costs projects time is miscommunication. For 
example, is the entry name in the Map userName or username? With 
DynaActionForms all the entry names are documented in the configuration. 
Otherwise, you will have to document them elsewhere and redo what has 
already been done.

I *am* a big fan of using Maps for Contexts, especially between 
application layers, and with the Commons Chain influence, we're sure to 
see more of that. The thing about DynaActionForms is that you get the 
agility of a Map with the documentation of a JavaBean.

HTH, Ted.

Antony Paul wrote:
but it prints the form field name like this map(username). I want to get the
key as name of form field. here username. possible ?
rgds
Antony Paul.
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Subject: RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


That's where a map-backed Hashmap is useful.

-Original Message-
From: Antony Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 6:02 AM
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Subject: Re: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?
I know that but one have to define 10 to 30 elements in struts-config.xml
for that. With a hash map one have to say whether it is needed ot not. It
could be accessed like DynaValidator form. And my requirement is to store
simple text field values.
rgds
Antony Paul.
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Subject: RE: When HashMap will replace ActionForm ?


DynaValidator forms stores data in Hashmap internally if you dont want
to

define norma action forms.





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