RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-17 Thread Slimane

THANX A LOT Joe !!! :)

All my problems with session scope beans are now resolved :)

So what was exactly the problem ? (it could be usefull to others, I guess)

Well, to instantiate my beans, I always put the following line in my jsp files:
jsp:useBean id=xxxform scope=session class=XxxForm/

But, as Joe wrote :
This is just a shot in the dark...but perhaps the explicit creation you
are specifying by the jsp:useBean tag is screwing up Strut's management of
the ActionForm bean?  In any case, you don't need to use the jsp:useBean
tag at all for ActionForm beans, as Struts takes care of instantiating,

And indeed, that seemed to be the main problem !

So, thanx again Joe, for your patience and all your help :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

PS: pfiou, I'm happy that problem is finally resolved :)

At 02:27 16/03/2002 +0100, Someone poor demented soul by the name of 
Slimane presented us with the following text which may contain useless 
information.
okay, thanx a lot for your help :)

I'll try the second method tomorrow (now it's 2am and I'm feeling sleepy :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 17:02 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of 
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain 
useless information.
Yep, that's what I meant, mis-type on my part there.  hmmm...so you want 3
ActionForm beans to be instantiated when a single Action is delegated to,
but don't want to use nested forms?

Okay, you can do this two (maybe more) ways:

1.  You could chain your actionforwards such that the Action called forwards
to a second Action, the second Action forwards to a 3rd, etc., and thus your
ActionForms get instantiated.  The final Action in the chain then forwards
to whatever page you wanted the user to see.

2.  The Action (call it Action A) that is called when it's associated URI is
requested explicitly creates whatever ActionForms you want and initializes
them with setXXX methods.  Then Action A places these form beans into the
HTTPRequest object as attributes with the SAME NAME that struts would use
for the attribute, i.e. the logical name specified in the action-mapping for
the form bean.  Then, when subsequent URI's are requested associated with
other Actions, if Struts finds that an attribute with the associated (with
the particular Action) form bean's logical name already exists, it will use
that object rather than instantiating a new one (I'm pretty sure that's how
it works).  The only drawback is that you would have to make sure that
Action A's URI is requested BEFORE the other Actions' URIs, so that your
logic will initialize and store the ActionForm beans rather than the Struts
framework.

whew.  I don't know if that helps, but it's the best I could come up with
based on what I know about Struts.  :)

A final consideration:  Is is possible that 2 of the 3 beans don't need to
be ActionForm beans at all, but just value objects that are created and
stored in the session?


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From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:49 PM
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Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope


Hi,

Thanx again for your answer :)

The problem is that I don't want to nest my ActionForm, I want them all
treated as a unique session bean. Without them being into (dependant of)
another ActionForm.

 so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
 using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

I suppose you meant request.getSession().getAttribute( ActionForm logical
name ), didn't you ? :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 15:12 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
useless information.
 Valid questions, all. :)  I have to admit I'm not 100% sure when the
 ActionForm bean is first instantiated/initialized, but this is what I
think:
 The ActionForm bean is created and initialized when the URI specified by
the
 action-mapping for this particular Action/ActionForm pair is requested.
 (if this is incorrect, please someone correct me)
 
 If you want to share beans, just declare the scope to be session for the
 bean in question in the action-mapping for this action inside
 struts-config.xml.  Struts stores these beans as attributes in the
 HTTPSession object, so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
 using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).
 
 As for the last question, ActionForm beans can appear as fields inside
other
 ActionForms, so you can nest your form beans such that when one gets
 instantiated, all of the nested form fields get instantiated too.  Then you
 can reference them as nested attributes of the parent ActionForm inside any
 of your Struts JSP tags.  You can also retrieve them from the session in a
 similar manner:
 
 request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).getMyNestedForm()
 
 happy coding,
 
 Joe
 
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 From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL

problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Slimane Zouggari

Hi,

I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the 
struts-config.xml.

Here's the config for one of them:
 action path=/piechart
 type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
 name=piechartform
 scope=session

When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any problem.
But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then suddenly, 
they don't exist anymore.

I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my 
previous mail ( 
http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )

And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form beans 
and another time my session contains only one form bean.

Here's the code I use in my Action classes:

 ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
   (ParticipantDetailsForm) 
 request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);

(participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the session)

Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm sure 
it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(

Thanx in advance.

Friendly Regards,
Slimane


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Re: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Slimane Zouggari

well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my question 
differently :)

When is a session bean destroyed ?
If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the 
struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?

I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean tag 
in my jsp file, isn't it ?

(for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session 
class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)

Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see (can 
use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?

Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,

I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the 
struts-config.xml.

Here's the config for one of them:
 action path=/piechart
 type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
 name=piechartform
 scope=session

When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any problem.
But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then suddenly, 
they don't exist anymore.

I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my 
previous mail ( 
http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )

And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form beans 
and another time my session contains only one form bean.

Here's the code I use in my Action classes:

 ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
   (ParticipantDetailsForm) 
 request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);

(participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the session)

Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm sure 
it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(

Thanx in advance.

Friendly Regards,
Slimane


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Re: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Otavio C. Decio

AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
default).

Otavio

- Original Message -
From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


 well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my question
 differently :)

 When is a session bean destroyed ?
 If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
 struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?

 I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean tag
 in my jsp file, isn't it ?

 (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
 class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)

 Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
(can
 use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?

 Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)

 Friendly Regards,
 Slimane

 At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the
 struts-config.xml.
 
 Here's the config for one of them:
  action path=/piechart
  type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
  name=piechartform
  scope=session
 
 When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any
problem.
 But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then
suddenly,
 they don't exist anymore.
 
 I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my
 previous mail (

http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )
 
 And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form
beans
 and another time my session contains only one form bean.
 
 Here's the code I use in my Action classes:
 
  ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
(ParticipantDetailsForm)
  request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);
 
 (participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the
session)
 
 Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm sure
 it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(
 
 Thanx in advance.
 
 Friendly Regards,
 Slimane
 
 
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Re: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Slimane Zouggari

Thanx, I supposed it was something like that :)
The thing is, I still don't understand why my beans aren't shared among all 
of my action classes :(

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 12:05 15/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:
AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
default).

Otavio

- Original Message -
From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


  well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my question
  differently :)
 
  When is a session bean destroyed ?
  If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
  struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?
 
  I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean tag
  in my jsp file, isn't it ?
 
  (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
  class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
 
  Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
(can
  use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?
 
  Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)
 
  Friendly Regards,
  Slimane
 
  At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the
  struts-config.xml.
  
  Here's the config for one of them:
   action path=/piechart
   type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
   name=piechartform
   scope=session
  
  When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any
problem.
  But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then
suddenly,
  they don't exist anymore.
  
  I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my
  previous mail (
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )
  
  And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form
beans
  and another time my session contains only one form bean.
  
  Here's the code I use in my Action classes:
  
   ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
 (ParticipantDetailsForm)
   request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);
  
  (participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the
session)
  
  Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm sure
  it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(
  
  Thanx in advance.
  
  Friendly Regards,
  Slimane
  
  
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RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Joseph Barefoot

  I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
tag
  in my jsp file, isn't it ?
 
  (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
  class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)

Actually, the creation of the ActionForm bean is handled by the Struts
framework itself (I guess by the controller servlet?).  That's how forms can
be populated automatically via the Struts taglibs and then passed to the
Action class associated with this particular ActionForm class.

This is just a shot in the dark...but perhaps the explicit creation you are
specifying by the jsp:useBean tag is screwing up Strut's management of the
ActionForm bean?  In any case, you don't need to use the jsp:useBean tag
at all for ActionForm beans, as Struts takes care of instantiating,
read/writes, and scope management for these beans.


--joe

-Original Message-
From: Slimane Zouggari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:15 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


Thanx, I supposed it was something like that :)
The thing is, I still don't understand why my beans aren't shared among all
of my action classes :(

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 12:05 15/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:
AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
default).

Otavio

- Original Message -
From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


  well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my
question
  differently :)
 
  When is a session bean destroyed ?
  If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
  struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?
 
  I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
tag
  in my jsp file, isn't it ?
 
  (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
  class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
 
  Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
(can
  use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?
 
  Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)
 
  Friendly Regards,
  Slimane
 
  At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the
  struts-config.xml.
  
  Here's the config for one of them:
   action path=/piechart
   type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
   name=piechartform
   scope=session
  
  When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any
problem.
  But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then
suddenly,
  they don't exist anymore.
  
  I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my
  previous mail (
 

http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )
  
  And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form
beans
  and another time my session contains only one form bean.
  
  Here's the code I use in my Action classes:
  
   ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
 (ParticipantDetailsForm)
   request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);
  
  (participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the
session)
  
  Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm
sure
  it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(
  
  Thanx in advance.
  
  Friendly Regards,
  Slimane
  
  
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RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Slimane

Hi,

Thanks for your answer, I'll try to remove the jsp:useBean tag.

But I still do have a question :) You say that:
Struts takes care of instantiating,
read/writes, and scope management for these beans

well, then when does he do that ? The first time I call the Action Class ?
If so, what if I want to share 3 beans ? The first time I'll call one 
Action Class, only one ActionForm will be instanciated, no ?

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 10:03 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of 
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain 
useless information.
   I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
tag
   in my jsp file, isn't it ?
  
   (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
   class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)

Actually, the creation of the ActionForm bean is handled by the Struts
framework itself (I guess by the controller servlet?).  That's how forms can
be populated automatically via the Struts taglibs and then passed to the
Action class associated with this particular ActionForm class.

This is just a shot in the dark...but perhaps the explicit creation you are
specifying by the jsp:useBean tag is screwing up Strut's management of the
ActionForm bean?  In any case, you don't need to use the jsp:useBean tag
at all for ActionForm beans, as Struts takes care of instantiating,
read/writes, and scope management for these beans.


--joe

-Original Message-
From: Slimane Zouggari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:15 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


Thanx, I supposed it was something like that :)
The thing is, I still don't understand why my beans aren't shared among all
of my action classes :(

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 12:05 15/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
 default).
 
 Otavio
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope
 
 
   well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my
question
   differently :)
  
   When is a session bean destroyed ?
   If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
   struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?
  
   I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
tag
   in my jsp file, isn't it ?
  
   (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
   class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
  
   Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
 (can
   use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?
  
   Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)
  
   Friendly Regards,
   Slimane
  
   At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the
   struts-config.xml.
   
   Here's the config for one of them:
action path=/piechart
type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
name=piechartform
scope=session
   
   When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any
 problem.
   But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then
 suddenly,
   they don't exist anymore.
   
   I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my
   previous mail (
  
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )
   
   And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form
 beans
   and another time my session contains only one form bean.
   
   Here's the code I use in my Action classes:
   
ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
  (ParticipantDetailsForm)
request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);
   
   (participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the
 session)
   
   Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm
sure
   it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(
   
   Thanx in advance.
   
   Friendly Regards,
   Slimane
   
   
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RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Galbreath, Mark

Depends on whether it is a stateless or stateful session bean.  There is no
way of knowing (outside of a server crash) when a stateless bean will be
destroyed.

Mark

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From: Otavio C. Decio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
default).

Otavio

- Original Message -
From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


 well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my question
 differently :)

 When is a session bean destroyed ?
 If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
 struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?

 I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean tag
 in my jsp file, isn't it ?

 (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
 class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)

 Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
(can
 use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?

 Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)

 Friendly Regards,
 Slimane

 At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the
 struts-config.xml.
 
 Here's the config for one of them:
  action path=/piechart
  type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
  name=piechartform
  scope=session
 
 When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any
problem.
 But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then
suddenly,
 they don't exist anymore.
 
 I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my
 previous mail (

http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )
 
 And that so, I saw that one time, my session contains all three form
beans
 and another time my session contains only one form bean.
 
 Here's the code I use in my Action classes:
 
  ParticipantDetailsForm partDetForm =
(ParticipantDetailsForm)
  request.getSession().getAttribute(participantdetailsform);
 
 (participantdetailsform is one of the 3 form beans I share in the
session)
 
 Could anyone give me pointers where I should look for ? Because, I'm sure
 it's a stupid mistake but I can't find it :(
 
 Thanx in advance.
 
 Friendly Regards,
 Slimane
 
 
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RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Joseph Barefoot

Valid questions, all. :)  I have to admit I'm not 100% sure when the
ActionForm bean is first instantiated/initialized, but this is what I think:
The ActionForm bean is created and initialized when the URI specified by the
action-mapping for this particular Action/ActionForm pair is requested.
(if this is incorrect, please someone correct me)

If you want to share beans, just declare the scope to be session for the
bean in question in the action-mapping for this action inside
struts-config.xml.  Struts stores these beans as attributes in the
HTTPSession object, so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

As for the last question, ActionForm beans can appear as fields inside other
ActionForms, so you can nest your form beans such that when one gets
instantiated, all of the nested form fields get instantiated too.  Then you
can reference them as nested attributes of the parent ActionForm inside any
of your Struts JSP tags.  You can also retrieve them from the session in a
similar manner:

request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).getMyNestedForm()

happy coding,

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:58 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope


Hi,

Thanks for your answer, I'll try to remove the jsp:useBean tag.

But I still do have a question :) You say that:
Struts takes care of instantiating,
read/writes, and scope management for these beans

well, then when does he do that ? The first time I call the Action Class ?
If so, what if I want to share 3 beans ? The first time I'll call one
Action Class, only one ActionForm will be instanciated, no ?

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 10:03 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
useless information.
   I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
tag
   in my jsp file, isn't it ?
  
   (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
   class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)

Actually, the creation of the ActionForm bean is handled by the Struts
framework itself (I guess by the controller servlet?).  That's how forms
can
be populated automatically via the Struts taglibs and then passed to the
Action class associated with this particular ActionForm class.

This is just a shot in the dark...but perhaps the explicit creation you are
specifying by the jsp:useBean tag is screwing up Strut's management of
the
ActionForm bean?  In any case, you don't need to use the jsp:useBean tag
at all for ActionForm beans, as Struts takes care of instantiating,
read/writes, and scope management for these beans.


--joe

-Original Message-
From: Slimane Zouggari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:15 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope


Thanx, I supposed it was something like that :)
The thing is, I still don't understand why my beans aren't shared among all
of my action classes :(

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 12:05 15/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
 default).
 
 Otavio
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope
 
 
   well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my
question
   differently :)
  
   When is a session bean destroyed ?
   If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
   struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?
  
   I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
tag
   in my jsp file, isn't it ?
  
   (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
   class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
  
   Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
 (can
   use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?
  
   Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)
  
   Friendly Regards,
   Slimane
  
   At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I have 3 form beans. Each of them have a session scope defined in the
   struts-config.xml.
   
   Here's the config for one of them:
action path=/piechart
type=be.stluc.info.struts.PieChartAction
name=piechartform
scope=session
   
   When I try to access them in one of my Action class, I don't have any
 problem.
   But when I try to access them, from one other Action class, then
 suddenly,
   they don't exist anymore.
   
   I used the piece of code, Mr Keith Bacon posted in reply of one of my
   previous mail (
  
 

http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg25984.html )
   
   And that so, I saw that one time

RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Slimane

Hi,

Thanx again for your answer :)

The problem is that I don't want to nest my ActionForm, I want them all 
treated as a unique session bean. Without them being into (dependant of) 
another ActionForm.

so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

I suppose you meant request.getSession().getAttribute( ActionForm logical 
name ), didn't you ? :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 15:12 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of 
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain 
useless information.
Valid questions, all. :)  I have to admit I'm not 100% sure when the
ActionForm bean is first instantiated/initialized, but this is what I think:
The ActionForm bean is created and initialized when the URI specified by the
action-mapping for this particular Action/ActionForm pair is requested.
(if this is incorrect, please someone correct me)

If you want to share beans, just declare the scope to be session for the
bean in question in the action-mapping for this action inside
struts-config.xml.  Struts stores these beans as attributes in the
HTTPSession object, so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

As for the last question, ActionForm beans can appear as fields inside other
ActionForms, so you can nest your form beans such that when one gets
instantiated, all of the nested form fields get instantiated too.  Then you
can reference them as nested attributes of the parent ActionForm inside any
of your Struts JSP tags.  You can also retrieve them from the session in a
similar manner:

request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).getMyNestedForm()

happy coding,

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:58 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope


Hi,

Thanks for your answer, I'll try to remove the jsp:useBean tag.

But I still do have a question :) You say that:
 Struts takes care of instantiating,
 read/writes, and scope management for these beans

well, then when does he do that ? The first time I call the Action Class ?
If so, what if I want to share 3 beans ? The first time I'll call one
Action Class, only one ActionForm will be instanciated, no ?

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 10:03 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
useless information.
I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
 tag
in my jsp file, isn't it ?
   
(for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
 
 Actually, the creation of the ActionForm bean is handled by the Struts
 framework itself (I guess by the controller servlet?).  That's how forms
can
 be populated automatically via the Struts taglibs and then passed to the
 Action class associated with this particular ActionForm class.
 
 This is just a shot in the dark...but perhaps the explicit creation you are
 specifying by the jsp:useBean tag is screwing up Strut's management of
the
 ActionForm bean?  In any case, you don't need to use the jsp:useBean tag
 at all for ActionForm beans, as Struts takes care of instantiating,
 read/writes, and scope management for these beans.
 
 
 --joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slimane Zouggari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:15 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope
 
 
 Thanx, I supposed it was something like that :)
 The thing is, I still don't understand why my beans aren't shared among all
 of my action classes :(
 
 Friendly Regards,
 Slimane
 
 At 12:05 15/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:
  AFAIK, a session bean is destroyed when the session expires (30 min by
  default).
  
  Otavio
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Slimane Zouggari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: problem with bean having session scope
  
  
well as nobody seems to have a clue about my problem. I'll ask my
 question
differently :)
   
When is a session bean destroyed ?
If I specify, a form bean to have a session scope (as I did in the
struts-config.xml), when will it be destroyed ?
   
I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a jsp:useBean
 tag
in my jsp file, isn't it ?
   
(for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
   
Finally, what could be the reasons, that some of my Action classes see
  (can
use their values) some session beans, while others don't ?
   
Thanx for having taken the time to read me :)
   
Friendly Regards,
Slimane
   
At 12:11 15/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,

I have 3 form

RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Joseph Barefoot

Yep, that's what I meant, mis-type on my part there.  hmmm...so you want 3
ActionForm beans to be instantiated when a single Action is delegated to,
but don't want to use nested forms?

Okay, you can do this two (maybe more) ways:

1.  You could chain your actionforwards such that the Action called forwards
to a second Action, the second Action forwards to a 3rd, etc., and thus your
ActionForms get instantiated.  The final Action in the chain then forwards
to whatever page you wanted the user to see.

2.  The Action (call it Action A) that is called when it's associated URI is
requested explicitly creates whatever ActionForms you want and initializes
them with setXXX methods.  Then Action A places these form beans into the
HTTPRequest object as attributes with the SAME NAME that struts would use
for the attribute, i.e. the logical name specified in the action-mapping for
the form bean.  Then, when subsequent URI's are requested associated with
other Actions, if Struts finds that an attribute with the associated (with
the particular Action) form bean's logical name already exists, it will use
that object rather than instantiating a new one (I'm pretty sure that's how
it works).  The only drawback is that you would have to make sure that
Action A's URI is requested BEFORE the other Actions' URIs, so that your
logic will initialize and store the ActionForm beans rather than the Struts
framework.

whew.  I don't know if that helps, but it's the best I could come up with
based on what I know about Struts.  :)

A final consideration:  Is is possible that 2 of the 3 beans don't need to
be ActionForm beans at all, but just value objects that are created and
stored in the session?


-Original Message-
From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:49 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope


Hi,

Thanx again for your answer :)

The problem is that I don't want to nest my ActionForm, I want them all
treated as a unique session bean. Without them being into (dependant of)
another ActionForm.

so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

I suppose you meant request.getSession().getAttribute( ActionForm logical
name ), didn't you ? :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 15:12 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
useless information.
Valid questions, all. :)  I have to admit I'm not 100% sure when the
ActionForm bean is first instantiated/initialized, but this is what I
think:
The ActionForm bean is created and initialized when the URI specified by
the
action-mapping for this particular Action/ActionForm pair is requested.
(if this is incorrect, please someone correct me)

If you want to share beans, just declare the scope to be session for the
bean in question in the action-mapping for this action inside
struts-config.xml.  Struts stores these beans as attributes in the
HTTPSession object, so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

As for the last question, ActionForm beans can appear as fields inside
other
ActionForms, so you can nest your form beans such that when one gets
instantiated, all of the nested form fields get instantiated too.  Then you
can reference them as nested attributes of the parent ActionForm inside any
of your Struts JSP tags.  You can also retrieve them from the session in a
similar manner:

request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).getMyNestedForm()

happy coding,

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:58 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope


Hi,

Thanks for your answer, I'll try to remove the jsp:useBean tag.

But I still do have a question :) You say that:
 Struts takes care of instantiating,
 read/writes, and scope management for these beans

well, then when does he do that ? The first time I call the Action Class ?
If so, what if I want to share 3 beans ? The first time I'll call one
Action Class, only one ActionForm will be instanciated, no ?

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 10:03 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
useless information.
I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a
jsp:useBean
 tag
in my jsp file, isn't it ?
   
(for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
class=be.stluc.info.struts.SearchByDateForm/)
 
 Actually, the creation of the ActionForm bean is handled by the Struts
 framework itself (I guess by the controller servlet?).  That's how forms
can
 be populated automatically via the Struts taglibs and then passed to
the
 Action class associated with this particular ActionForm class.
 
 This is just a shot in the dark

RE: problem with bean having session scope

2002-03-15 Thread Slimane

okay, thanx a lot for your help :)

I'll try the second method tomorrow (now it's 2am and I'm feeling sleepy :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 17:02 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of 
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain 
useless information.
Yep, that's what I meant, mis-type on my part there.  hmmm...so you want 3
ActionForm beans to be instantiated when a single Action is delegated to,
but don't want to use nested forms?

Okay, you can do this two (maybe more) ways:

1.  You could chain your actionforwards such that the Action called forwards
to a second Action, the second Action forwards to a 3rd, etc., and thus your
ActionForms get instantiated.  The final Action in the chain then forwards
to whatever page you wanted the user to see.

2.  The Action (call it Action A) that is called when it's associated URI is
requested explicitly creates whatever ActionForms you want and initializes
them with setXXX methods.  Then Action A places these form beans into the
HTTPRequest object as attributes with the SAME NAME that struts would use
for the attribute, i.e. the logical name specified in the action-mapping for
the form bean.  Then, when subsequent URI's are requested associated with
other Actions, if Struts finds that an attribute with the associated (with
the particular Action) form bean's logical name already exists, it will use
that object rather than instantiating a new one (I'm pretty sure that's how
it works).  The only drawback is that you would have to make sure that
Action A's URI is requested BEFORE the other Actions' URIs, so that your
logic will initialize and store the ActionForm beans rather than the Struts
framework.

whew.  I don't know if that helps, but it's the best I could come up with
based on what I know about Struts.  :)

A final consideration:  Is is possible that 2 of the 3 beans don't need to
be ActionForm beans at all, but just value objects that are created and
stored in the session?


-Original Message-
From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:49 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope


Hi,

Thanx again for your answer :)

The problem is that I don't want to nest my ActionForm, I want them all
treated as a unique session bean. Without them being into (dependant of)
another ActionForm.

 so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
 using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).

I suppose you meant request.getSession().getAttribute( ActionForm logical
name ), didn't you ? :)

Friendly Regards,
Slimane

At 15:12 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
useless information.
 Valid questions, all. :)  I have to admit I'm not 100% sure when the
 ActionForm bean is first instantiated/initialized, but this is what I
think:
 The ActionForm bean is created and initialized when the URI specified by
the
 action-mapping for this particular Action/ActionForm pair is requested.
 (if this is incorrect, please someone correct me)
 
 If you want to share beans, just declare the scope to be session for the
 bean in question in the action-mapping for this action inside
 struts-config.xml.  Struts stores these beans as attributes in the
 HTTPSession object, so you can retrieve them from other Actions/JSPs by
 using request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).
 
 As for the last question, ActionForm beans can appear as fields inside
other
 ActionForms, so you can nest your form beans such that when one gets
 instantiated, all of the nested form fields get instantiated too.  Then you
 can reference them as nested attributes of the parent ActionForm inside any
 of your Struts JSP tags.  You can also retrieve them from the session in a
 similar manner:
 
 request.getAttribute( ActionForm logical name ).getMyNestedForm()
 
 happy coding,
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slimane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:58 PM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: problem with bean having session scope
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for your answer, I'll try to remove the jsp:useBean tag.
 
 But I still do have a question :) You say that:
  Struts takes care of instantiating,
  read/writes, and scope management for these beans
 
 well, then when does he do that ? The first time I call the Action Class ?
 If so, what if I want to share 3 beans ? The first time I'll call one
 Action Class, only one ActionForm will be instanciated, no ?
 
 Friendly Regards,
 Slimane
 
 At 10:03 15/03/2002 -0800, Someone poor demented soul by the name of
 Joseph Barefoot presented us with the following text which may contain
 useless information.
 I suppose the form bean is created the first time I use a
jsp:useBean
  tag
 in my jsp file, isn't it ?

 (for example: jsp:useBean id=searchbydateform scope=session
 class