Karlheinz--
I don't claim to be a Greek-scholar, but, now that you mention it, that
could be a theta at the beginning of the word along the Summer-Solstice
line.
.
But I just don't find the iota and sigma at the beginning of the word along
the equinox line.
.
But none of that even matters if, as you said, it isn't even a
2000-year-old dial, and is only from the Roman era. What a disappointment.
But thanks for pointing it out anyway.
.
Michael Ossipoff
Aprilis 10th, 2020
Aries 22nd
16 F
.
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 2:27 AM Karlheinz Schaldach <
karlheinz_schald...@t-online.de> wrote:
> I would like to add two arguments to the questions under discussion*:*
>
> 1. Prof. Şimşek said: “On the North Parados passage in the Western
> Theater, which dates back to the Hellenistic Era, in the ancient city we
> have found a spherical sundial facing south, which we believe to be 2,020
> years old.
>
> This is a kind of conclusion which does not help by dating the dial. A
> comparison with similar specimens reveals that it was probably done around
> 200 – 400 CE.
>
> 2. “Inscribed on the dial are the Greek word ‘Ksimerini’, or winter on
> the upper part; ‘Isimerini’, or solstice, which denotes the equality of day
> and night in the middle; and ‘Terini’, or summer in the bottom.”
>
> I read (ΤΡΟΠH) ΧΕ(Ι)ΜΕΡΙΝH / IΣΗΜΕΡΙΝH / (ΤΡΟΠH) ΘΕΡΙΝH.
>
> These are the names of the solstices and the equinoxes. What is
> conspicuous is the missing of I in χειμερινή (it should be written with
> diacritic signs). That is another strong argument that it was done in the
> Roman era.
>
> With best wishes
>
> Karlheinz Schaldach
>
> *From:* Michael Ossipoff
> *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 5:11 AM
> *To:* Maes, F.W.
> *Cc:* Sundial List
> *Subject:* Re: Denizli sundial
>
>
>> "Inscribed on the dial are the Greek word ‘Ksimerini’, or winter on the
>> upper part
>>
>
> No doubt "Merini" referring to "day", related to "Mera", meaning "Day",
> combined with "Xi-", which must mean something like "longest".
>
> ; ‘Isimerini’, or solstice, which denotes the equality of day and night in
>> the middle; and ‘Terini’, or summer in the bottom."
>>
>
> The middle line is for the equinoxes, not a solstice.
>
> If it says "Isimerini", then that combines "-merini", referreing to "Day",
> and something obviously likely to be related to "Iso-" which we all know to
> mean "same" or "equal".
>
>
>> Ksimerini would in Greek start with Ξ (ksi), but a close look at the
>> initial, hi-res photo strongly suggests that the first character is X (chi)
>>
>
> Yes, that column of horizontal lines is the Greek capital "Ksee" (as
> pronounced in English). The lower case would look like a more or less
> vertical squiggly line. It's pronounced like our English "X".
>
> Yes, the Greek letter written as "X", is pronounced like aspirated "k", as
> in "Loch" or "Achtung". ...and its name "chi", is pronounced in English
> with that consonant-sound, though we often hear it said as just a "k".
>
> I didn't notice the "T" in the word on the Summer-Solstice line.
>
> It looked. to me, just like Merine on the top 2 lines, and Erini on the
> bottom--line.
>
> Michael Ossipoff
> Aprilis 10th, 2020
> Aries 22nd
> 16 F
>
> You wrote:
>
> , in accordance with what John Davis and John Wilson's wife read.
>
> So it seems the names are spelled as follows:
> XIMEPINH = winter solstice
> IΣHMEPINH = equinox
> TEPINH = summer solstice
> in which X is Greek chi, P is Greek rho, H is Greek eta.
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