Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[John Pickard]

Hi Anne,

What a beautiful watch. I want one! Pity that it's eight months to my 
birthday.



Cheers, John

John Pickard
john.pick...@bigpond.com


-Original Message- 
From: Anne Lennon

Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:16 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?


Dear John,

If those sundial watches by "Fossil" are no longer available, then
maybe this one (see attached photograph) might still be for sale.

As you said, it could make a good 'conversation piece' at parties,
although I think this version would be a bit more impressive!


I do not have details of suppliers - but a good place to start might
be Len Honey at "Science Replicas", (in London).  He sells a lot of
similar sundial items, and a Google search can probably find him.

If not, then I think Tony Moss could give you his contact details.


Sincerely,

Anne Lennon (Mrs). 


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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[Fabio nonvedolora]

Patrick you are right,

there is a lot of sundials restored so bad that now they aren’t sundials.

Roberto Baggio has collected some of the dials defaced with pipes, cables and 
so on.
It is a path on Sundial Atlas (‘meridiane e tubi’: sundials and pipes) 
www.sundialatlas.eu/atlas.php?sp=122
It is a gallery of horrors (226 horrors), sometime used to show to the mayors 
what they couldn’t permit to do.

ciao Fabio


Fabio Savian
fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
Paderno Dugnano, Milano, Italy
45° 34' 10'' N, 9° 10' 9'' E, GMT+1 (DST +2)

From: Patrick Powers 
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:39 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Subject: Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

Dear All, 

So far we have discussed new dials that are “Non Dials”.  However Non-Dials are 
not limited to new ones.  There are some (especially among painted dials) that 
deteriorate into Non Dials as a result of restoration creep.  One in the UK 
which has just been taken down for restoration is in this category. More 
details are here http://bit.ly/Y4GnUp.  It may be easier to say what is right 
than what is wrong!  What should the restoration put right and what should it 
leave alone?

Patrick


From: David Andersson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:25 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Subject: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?


Dear All,

Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?

A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
website  http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179


Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!

If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a joke.


Regards,

David Andersson.


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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[Robert Terwilliger]

Here's one 

 

In my neighborhood  

 

 

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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[R Wall ml]

Hi all,

I have one of the Fossil wrist sundials. I paid AU$10.00 in 1995 in an 
Australian store. It is designed for the Northern hemisphere so it is no good 
for Australia. It came in a funny size box with a sloping top. It came with a 
compass on the strap and a Warranty card with one year warranty. The bottom of 
the box has the following on it:

START:
“You have purchased the Fossil Sundial. This piece is a functional sundial 
simular to the ancient time keeping devices used long ago. 

To use the Fossil Sundial, the user must face North Holding (or by putting the 
sundial on a level surface), the fin should point North and the user should 
stand facing North to read the time. The time can be determined by noting the 
index on which the edge of the shadow falls.

To join CLUB FOSSIL of for more information call 1-800-TIV-TOC1 842-8621.

For replacement straps send watch and $12.50 to:

Fossil Inc
11052 Grader Street
Dallas, TX 75238

For service other than straps write to the above address”.
END.

What’s funny about this Sundial watch is that they sell a sundial watch that 
was designed for the Northern Hemisphere in Australia and give a one year 
warranty for workmanship. And for service other than straps to write to the 
above address. Maybe I should write and say I’m have problems reading the time. 
No equation of time was given with the sundial watch.

Regards,

Roderick Wall.

From: Maureen Salmi 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:51 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Subject: Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

Hi David,

That is a Fossil wrist sundial. The Fossil company, well known for their 
watches, purses and wallets, has made several sundial models over the years; 
none are available now. They show up fairly often on eBay.  It looks like he 
the guy in the photo is wearing it upside-down? Here are some Google images:


https://www.google.com/search?q=fossil+sundial+watch&hl=en&client=safari&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fYVcUe2HMKuWjALo84GoBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=900


Maureen

On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, David Andersson  wrote:



  Dear All,

  Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
  a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?

  A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
  website  http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179


  Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
  be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!

  If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a joke.


  Regards,

  David Andersson.


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RE: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[Dave Bell]

Impressive!  But it would be better with a bulls-eye level, rather than the
latitude scale...

-Original Message-
From: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Anne Lennon
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:17 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

In message 
  "John Pickard"  wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> No, it's certainly not the worst 'non-dial', it's actually a rather nice 
> conversation piece. And it is obviously the birthday or christmas present
to 
> buy any dial enthusiast!
> 
> I have one, and I described it to the Sundial List way back in 2002.
> 
> Of course, it is pretty useless in Australia, but it is fabulous at
> parties!
>
> **
> 
> If anyone would like to see images of the watch, and the packaging
(complete 
> with instructions), contact me off-list.
> 
> Cheers, John
> 
> John Pickard
> john.pick...@bigpond.com
> 

Dear John,

If those sundial watches by "Fossil" are no longer available, then
maybe this one (see attached photograph) might still be for sale.

As you said, it could make a good 'conversation piece' at parties,
although I think this version would be a bit more impressive!


I do not have details of suppliers - but a good place to start might
be Len Honey at "Science Replicas", (in London).  He sells a lot of
similar sundial items, and a Google search can probably find him.

If not, then I think Tony Moss could give you his contact details.


Sincerely,

Anne Lennon (Mrs).


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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[John Pickard]

Hi David,

No, it's certainly not the worst 'non-dial', it's actually a rather nice 
conversation piece. And it is obviously the birthday or christmas present to 
buy any dial enthusiast!


I have one, and I described it to the Sundial List way back in 2002:

***
Folks,

I have never seen any mention on the List of a sundial watch I
bought in Arizona in 1985 for $US 16.00.

It is made by Fossil, a US maker of 1950s and 1960s memorabilia,
and "collectible" watches. The latest are Harry Potter watches. I
kid you not!

I guess that the Tolkien watches will follow later this year. Fossil
call it the Fossil Sundial. The part number is SD-7620. The dial is
made of cast resin with the appearance of granite, with Roman
numerals on the bezel, and considerably smaller Arabic numerals
on the face. I haven't measured the gnomon angle, but it is less
than 45 degrees. It comes with a rather nice leather band. All in all,
not too bad for $16! When I saw it in 1985, I couldn't get my credit
card out fast enough. Last year, out of curiosity, I visited a Fossil
store in Sydney and I also looked at the Fossil web site
(www.fossil.com) to see if they were still available. Short answer
"no". I have just checked the Fossil web site again, and the style is
not listed.

Of course, it is pretty useless in Australia, but it is fabulous at
parties!
**

If anyone would like to see images of the watch, and the packaging (complete 
with instructions), contact me off-list.


Cheers, John

John Pickard
john.pick...@bigpond.com

-Original Message- 
From: David Andersson

Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:25 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?


Dear All,

Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?

A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
website  http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179


Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!

If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a joke.


Regards,

David Andersson.


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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[Tom Laidlaw]

The outer dial is clock face, but the inner dial looks OK. You can see the 
angles are different.


-Original Message- 
From: brick...@62bricks.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:55 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

No, it has "clock face" hours.

On 03.04.2013 14:39, Kevin Karney wrote:

Looks like an OK sundial to me. If the latitude is right, it should work…
Every member of NASS & BSS should own one….
Kevin

On 3 Apr 2013, at 21:25, David Andersson  
wrote:




Dear All,

Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?

A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
website 
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179



Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!

If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a 
joke.



Regards,

David Andersson.


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RE: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[R. Hooijenga]

Of the Lego sundial, anyone would have to be excused for having to ask 'how
does it work?'

I would like to see the introduction of the word 'undial' to describe a
sundial that really isn't.
It wouldn't stick a few years ago, but perhaps it will now. I do so like it.

Rudolf
52 30' N 4 40' E

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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[koolish]

Search Google Images for "wrist sundial" and you will see
this item and a bunch of others.

And there's always the Pocket Stonehenge:
http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/06/19/stonehenge-pocket-watch/



> Hi David,
>
> That is a Fossil wrist sundial. The Fossil company, well known for their
> watches, purses and wallets, has made several sundial models over the
> years; none are available now. They show up fairly often on eBay.  It
> looks like he the guy in the photo is wearing it upside-down? Here are
> some Google images:
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=fossil+sundial+watch&hl=en&client=safari&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fYVcUe2HMKuWjALo84GoBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=900
>
> Maureen
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, David Andersson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is
>> it
>> a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a
>> 'spoof'?
>>
>> A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
>> website
>> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179
>>
>>
>> Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
>> be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the
>> year!
>>
>> If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a
>> joke.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Andersson.
>>
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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[brickman]

I'm a LEGO nut as well as a dial enthusiast, so this would have my vote 
for the worst dial: 
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM18EP_Legoland_Sundial


On 03.04.2013 15:25, David Andersson wrote:

Dear All,

Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as 
is it
a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 
'spoof'?


A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from 
the
website  
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179



Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item 
could
be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the 
year!


If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a 
joke.



Regards,

David Andersson.


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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[brickman]

No, it has "clock face" hours.

On 03.04.2013 14:39, Kevin Karney wrote:
Looks like an OK sundial to me. If the latitude is right, it should 
work…

Every member of NASS & BSS should own one….
Kevin

On 3 Apr 2013, at 21:25, David Andersson  
wrote:




Dear All,

Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as 
is it
a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 
'spoof'?


A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from 
the
website  
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179



Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item 
could
be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the 
year!


If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a 
joke.



Regards,

David Andersson.


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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[Maureen Salmi]

Hi David,

That is a Fossil wrist sundial. The Fossil company, well known for their 
watches, purses and wallets, has made several sundial models over the years; 
none are available now. They show up fairly often on eBay.  It looks like he 
the guy in the photo is wearing it upside-down? Here are some Google images:


https://www.google.com/search?q=fossil+sundial+watch&hl=en&client=safari&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fYVcUe2HMKuWjALo84GoBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=900

Maureen

On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, David Andersson  wrote:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
> a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?
> 
> A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
> website  http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179
> 
> 
> Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
> be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!
> 
> If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a joke.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Andersson.
> 
> 
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Re: A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[Kevin Karney]

Looks like an OK sundial to me. If the latitude is right, it should work…
Every member of NASS & BSS should own one….
Kevin

On 3 Apr 2013, at 21:25, David Andersson  wrote:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
> a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?
> 
> A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
> website  http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179
> 
> 
> Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
> be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!
> 
> If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a joke.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Andersson.
> 
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A prize for the worst 'non-dial', of the year?

[David Andersson]

Dear All,

Can anyone give me information on the attached photograph - such as is it
a genuine (but useless!) sun-watch, or if the whole picture is a 'spoof'?

A 'body-building' friend sent it to me, today - he says it came from the
website  http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152225673&page=179


Instead of the "Sawyer Dialling Prize" (at NASS) - maybe this item could
be awarded to the worst 'non-dial' design, which appears during the year!

If it is a genuine commercially-available item, I might buy one as a joke.


Regards,

David Andersson.


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