Re: [freenet-support] Freenet usability...

2004-03-10 Thread Krist van Besien
Toad wrote:
Curious. What build are you running?
5074 (as I mentioned lower in the email)


- System is Linux Gentoo 1.4, 256 Mb Ram, Java is Sun JKD 1.4.2
- Network is cable, 1000 kbs down. 200 kbs up...
- Freenet version is 5074


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Re: [freenet-support] windows vs. linux.. bummer

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:00:21AM -0800, Joe Blow wrote:
 I do have a NAT box, but the listen port is forwarded.
  And, my pants are pulled down on the box I'm running
 freenet on (everything set to ACCEPT).  Besides I when
 I plugged the cable modem into the freenet box
 (bypassing the NAT machine), it was still slow as a
 dog.  I also connected my windows machine up to the
 NAT box to see if it would slow down, but it didn't
 seem to.  I also upgraded to the latest j2re package
 from sun, still the same.

Does it know what its external IP address is? If not, it will not work
very well i.e. it will not get external traffic and therefore will not
learn quickly (well, quicker) where things are.
 
 The good news is that frost is finnally working, maybe
 not as fast as it would be on the windows machine. 
 The ONLY page I was able to get from the freenet proxy
 was the FMB page after a few days of running.  None of
 the other page's icons will even pop up.
 
 Maybe there's a better java vm to use.  I don't know,
 I'm just taking stabs in the dark now.

It sounds like there's some config problem e.g. behind a NAT and does
not know its IP address.
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[freenet-support] REF seeding

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

will running the freenet node over extended periods of time increase the
reliability of the cached seed nodes.  I seem to be in a very unstable
part of the network and I can only seem to get like a 1% success rate on
accesses.  The majority of attempt restart at some stage and other nodes
just totally decline.

If just keeping the node running won't increase reliability is there
another method or utility I can use to find more reliable 'uplink nodes'?

Or is there somethiing I can do in configuration to make things more
tolerant and increases the chances of successfully retries data under
specified keys?
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[freenet-support] Data transfer problem

2004-03-10 Thread no_dammagE



Hi, support team!
First of all, I would like to thank the whole 
freenet team for developing Fred. I wish you good luck in the further 
development :)

Now to the problem: 

I have two computers - one with WinXP (old, needs a 
reinstall) and an another with fresh win98. Both have the same JRE 
version.
After the major freenet upgrade when the handshake 
protocol has been changed (2 months ago?) i noticed that i can't retrieve any 
data on the winxp machine anymore while the win98 system has no 
problems.

Of course, I upgraded and reseeded, but that 
brought nothing. Also a full reinstall (i didnt touch the registry) didnt do 
anything. Since that moment i have this problem.

The interesting thing is: both computers are 
connected via the same router (ALLNet router) to the internet and use a DSL 
connection.

While the Win98 machine has no problems retrieving 
data in transient and permanent modes, the winXP machine is only able to get the 
GPL - and that one only after long time.

The machine is active/incoming connections 
possible- in DMZ Mode and Freenet ports as virtual server entered ... for 
port forwarding ... although freenet worked permanent before the upgrade without 
any such tweaks.

While running a node i get mass exceptions similar 
to this:

11.03.2003 23:21:18 
(freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream, YThread-28, NORMAL): waited more than 5 
minutes in NIOIS.read() tcp/connection: 
303624.237.6.66:18765,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
closingjava.lang.Exception: debug

at 
freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream.read(NIOInputStream.java:293)

at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown 
Source)

at 
freenet.session.FnpLink.negotiateOutbound(FnpLink.java:750)

at 
freenet.session.FnpLink.solicit(FnpLink.java:240)

at 
freenet.session.FnpLinkManager.createOutgoing(FnpLinkManager.java:109)

at 
freenet.OpenConnectionManager$ConnectionJob.run(OpenConnectionManager.java:813)

at 
freenet.OpenConnectionManager.createConnection(OpenConnectionManager.java:431)

at 
freenet.node.ConnectionOpener.checkpoint(ConnectionOpener.java:215)

at 
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:54)

at 
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:47)

at 
freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177)

at 
freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61)

at 
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:322)

at 
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:278)

at 
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:203)

at 
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:95)

at 
freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:322)

at 
freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:250)

and 

11.03.2003 23:21:19 (freenet.MuxTrailerReadManager, 
Network reading thread, NORMAL): Unrecognized trailer ID: 23213 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 
d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, presentations=3, 
ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
read: 0, init read: 1184908, authorized: 0, waiting: 0, max buffered: 65535, 
readers: 0, chunks waiting: 0 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 
d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, presentations=3, 
ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
id=23213, keyOffset=110592, length=4096, cb=null)11.03.2003 23:21:19 
(freenet.MuxTrailerReadManager, Network reading thread, NORMAL): Unrecognized 
trailer ID: 23213 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 
d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, presentations=3, 
ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
read: 0, init read: 1189014, authorized: 0, waiting: 0, max buffered: 65535, 
readers: 0, chunks waiting: 0 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 
d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, presentations=3, 
ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
id=23213, keyOffset=114688, length=4096, cb=null)

In the failure table i get tons of keys, the 
majority red, some green.
In 20 minutes the node gathered a list which would 
need at least 3 A4 paper sheets.

Here some other stats:



  
  
Number of node references
98
  
Attempted to contact node references
96
  
Contacted node references
64
  
Connections with Successful 

Re: [freenet-support] Just Getting Started

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:37:34PM -0800, Galen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I think I have a relatively decent idea of how freenet works. And if I 
 had a nice broadband connection I could dedicate to freenet, I'd be 
 delighted and I don't think I'd have problems. But for now, my results 
 with freenet have been, to say the least, lackluster. I am currently on 
 dialup internet and using transient mode. Any suggestions on how to 
 make things actually work? I want to just explore and load a few pieces 
 of content...
 
 I'm running Mac OS X and don't seem to have problems loading up freenet 
 and whatnot, it's just actually getting it to load content that's 
 basically impossible. I'm more than reasonably terminal-comfortable.
 
 And yeah, I know I seriously need broadband. Qwest just brought DSL to 
 my neighborhood and I'll probably sign up pretty soon here, but for 
 now, dialup is where I'm at. Really, if people are trying to use 
 freenet to get sensitive information (the stuff governments want to 
 censor), it's very possible they'll be on dialup also, so I don't think 
 there's quite zero use for dialup, you know...

It's a matter of what is possible. If dialup is what you have, unless
the network is working VERY well, your node will not work well.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] REF seeding

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:54:59AM -0800, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
 
 will running the freenet node over extended periods of time increase the
 reliability of the cached seed nodes.  I seem to be in a very unstable
 part of the network and I can only seem to get like a 1% success rate on
 accesses.  The majority of attempt restart at some stage and other nodes
 just totally decline.

Running the freenet node over extended periods (24-48 hours for example)
should allow it to learn about the rest of the network and start to get
some success at retrieving content. However this will only happen if the
node is serving queries for the rest of the network. If for example it
is behind a NAT/firewall, it needs:
1. To forward the listenPort from the NAT.
2. To know its real external IP address.

If it does not have both of these it will not learn.
 
 If just keeping the node running won't increase reliability is there
 another method or utility I can use to find more reliable 'uplink nodes'?
 
 Or is there somethiing I can do in configuration to make things more
 tolerant and increases the chances of successfully retries data under
 specified keys?
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Re: [freenet-support] Query Rejecting

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 06:35:41PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:01:29 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Running build 5063; anybody have any idea why my node is rejecting all
 incoming requests?
 
 Current estimated load   100% [QueryRejecting all incoming requests!]
 
 My guess is that most do.
 
 Build 5063 worked extremely well here for about a day or so - I actually  
 got content that I haven't seen since half a year - content I thought had  
 fallen off the network. I was very surprised, to say the least.
 
 Now, however, I cannot get anything really (not even TFE since 2 days).  
 RNF - and my node is also rejecting constantly. Maybe NGR only worked as  
 long as only a small number of people had upgraded, or something else is  
 slowing down the network dramatically?

Rate limiting has cured the rejecting everything problem. It has
unfortunately replaced rejects due to load with rejects due to RNFs. We
are working on it... :(
 
 regards,
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[freenet-support] update.sh always overwrites seednodes.ref

2004-03-10 Thread Ruben Garcia
In connection with what Ian said about the hierarchy of classes of 
freenet nodes (those in seednodes.ref
and the ones in these nodes routing tables, etc)
I think seednodes.ref should not be overwritten unless there is a 
network reset.

After some days uptime, the routing table adjusts to some differnent not 
so overloaded nodes and the response of freenet is better.
But on an update, this info is lost.

I'm going to remove the download of seednodes.ref from my update.sh, 
might be a good idea to do it in the original script, and have another 
script for the case of a network reset.
Anyway, the releases indicate whether a network reset is needed.

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Re: [freenet-support] Data transfer problem

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:34:07PM +0100, no_dammagE wrote:
 Hi, support team!
 First of all, I would like to thank the whole freenet team for developing Fred. I 
 wish you good luck in the further development :)
 
 Now to the problem: 
 
 I have two computers - one with WinXP (old, needs a reinstall) and an another with 
 fresh win98. Both have the same JRE version.
 After the major freenet upgrade when the handshake protocol has been changed (2 
 months ago?) i noticed that i can't retrieve any data on the winxp machine anymore 
 while the win98 system has no problems.
 
 Of course, I upgraded and reseeded, but that brought nothing. Also a full reinstall 
 (i didnt touch the registry) didnt do anything. Since that moment i have this 
 problem.

There was a temporary problem with the stable seednodes. Please try
again. You can alternatively seed one node from the other. Fetch
http://127.0.0.1:7888/servlet/nodestatus/noderefs.txt?minCP=0.0minConnections=1

from the working node, and save it as seednodes.ref, and use that to
reseed the non-working node.
 
 The interesting thing is: both computers are connected via the same router (ALLNet 
 router) to the internet and use a DSL connection.
 
 While the Win98 machine has no problems retrieving data in transient and permanent 
 modes, the winXP machine is only able to get the GPL - and that one only after long 
 time.
 
 The machine is active/incoming connections possible - in DMZ Mode and Freenet ports 
 as virtual server entered ... for port forwarding ... although freenet worked 
 permanent before the upgrade without any such tweaks.

So not only can it receive connections, it also knows what it's IP
address is? You set the ipAddress in the config file? Or it can
autodetect it because it's not being NATted?
 
 While running a node i get mass exceptions similar to this:
 
 11.03.2003 23:21:18 (freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream, YThread-28, NORMAL): waited 
 more than 5 minutes in NIOIS.read() tcp/connection: 303624.237.6.66:18765,[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] closing
 java.lang.Exception: debug
 
  at freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream.read(NIOInputStream.java:293)
 
  at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
 
  at freenet.session.FnpLink.negotiateOutbound(FnpLink.java:750)
 
  at freenet.session.FnpLink.solicit(FnpLink.java:240)
 
  at freenet.session.FnpLinkManager.createOutgoing(FnpLinkManager.java:109)
 
  at freenet.OpenConnectionManager$ConnectionJob.run(OpenConnectionManager.java:813)
 
  at freenet.OpenConnectionManager.createConnection(OpenConnectionManager.java:431)
 
  at freenet.node.ConnectionOpener.checkpoint(ConnectionOpener.java:215)
 
  at freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:54)
 
  at freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:47)
 
  at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177)
 
  at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61)
 
  at 
 freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:322)
 
  at 
 freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:278)
 
  at 
 freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:203)
 
  at 
 freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:95)
 
  at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:322)
 
  at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:250)

It happens :(. It seems to be caused by message send timeouts on certain
nodes. There are some plans to try to reduce this.
 
 and 
 
 11.03.2003 23:21:19 (freenet.MuxTrailerReadManager, Network reading thread, NORMAL): 
 Unrecognized trailer ID: 23213 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e  
 c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, 
 presentations=3, ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e  c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
 version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 read: 0, init read: 1184908, authorized: 0, waiting: 0, max buffered: 65535, 
 readers: 0, chunks waiting: 0 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e  
 c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, 
 presentations=3, ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e  c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
 version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 id=23213, keyOffset=110592, length=4096, cb=null)
 11.03.2003 23:21:19 (freenet.MuxTrailerReadManager, Network reading thread, NORMAL): 
 Unrecognized trailer ID: 23213 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e  
 c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627),tcp/freenet.shatteredsilicon.net:18001, sessions=1, 
 presentations=3, ID=DSA(cd91 38b2 767d b904 af2e  c7ef 83e1 61ff 0360 d627), 
 version=Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5074): outbound attempts=1:1/2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 read: 0, init read: 1189014, authorized: 

[freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread miguel
duh, guys, I'm a newbie +- so I can only make observations so here:
(note: order does not indicate weight nor priority)
1. Get a female to work on this thing.
2. At least run permanent node.
3. DSL ain't no faster when it hits the freenet bogs.
4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.
5. The updates and re-seeds seem to be distancing us from the majority
of the  data-holding nodes out there that are not updating often enough
(or not updating at all)
6. As per performance: Your OS shouldn't matter(though the L is king
(-;), your cpu and ram will virtually max-out to whatever you've got
available, and then some, and pulling your pants down off firewall just
means people will get offended at such a sight but it won't help your
node. And store size? Don't make no difference either.
7.The java threads are inconstant. I now have to restart several 
times a day and after killing all threads the restart can spawn 
anywhere from 1 to 20+ threads depending on the random seed of the
moment.
8.I'd say if all data were stored and retained by freenet from one
build to the next the performance would be outstanding(compared to 
now)and, programmer dudes, put a tighter leash on that Java bulldog.
 
Because of recent performance declines I have been severely tempted 
to drop freenet but I refuse because it'll be one of the last freedoms 
that the fascists kill and I want to be there to watch it die.
I offer my machine to run whatever service I can to make this thing 
work better for all of us.  Any takers?

signed: Whatever(aka Whoever)

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Re: [freenet-support] windows vs. linux.. bummer

2004-03-10 Thread Krist van Besien
Toad wrote:

Does it know what its external IP address is? If not, it will not work
very well i.e. it will not get external traffic and therefore will not
learn quickly (well, quicker) where things are.
How can one find out what freenet thinks its IP address is?

The system my freenet node runs on is dual hosted. (soon it will even
have three interfaces.)
It can actually reach the internet via both its interfaces, but only
receive incoming connections from the internet on one.
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Re: [freenet-support] update.sh always overwrites seednodes.ref

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 12:19:21PM +0100, Ruben Garcia wrote:
 In connection with what Ian said about the hierarchy of classes of 
 freenet nodes (those in seednodes.ref
 and the ones in these nodes routing tables, etc)
 I think seednodes.ref should not be overwritten unless there is a 
 network reset.
 
 After some days uptime, the routing table adjusts to some differnent not 
 so overloaded nodes and the response of freenet is better.
 But on an update, this info is lost.
 
 I'm going to remove the download of seednodes.ref from my update.sh, 
 might be a good idea to do it in the original script, and have another 
 script for the case of a network reset.
 Anyway, the releases indicate whether a network reset is needed.

That's why we have the line:
touch -t 197001011200 seednodes.ref || touch -d 1/1/1970 seednodes.ref
# so we don't reseed unless necessary

The routing table will not be overwritten unless either:
a) The seednodes.ref is more recent than the routing table OR
b) The routing table is trashed, for example because all the nodes in it
are incompatible with the current code after a network reset.
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Re: [freenet-support] windows vs. linux.. bummer

2004-03-10 Thread Krist van Besien
Toad wrote:

Does it know what its external IP address is? If not, it will not work
very well i.e. it will not get external traffic and therefore will not
learn quickly (well, quicker) where things are.
How can one find out what freenet thinks its IP address is?

The system my freenet node runs on is dual hosted. (soon it will even 
have three interfaces.)
It can actually reach the internet via both its interfaces, but only 
receive incoming connections from the internet on one.

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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:02:35AM -0800, miguel wrote:
 duh, guys, I'm a newbie +- so I can only make observations so here:
 (note: order does not indicate weight nor priority)
 1. Get a female to work on this thing.
 2. At least run permanent node.
 3. DSL ain't no faster when it hits the freenet bogs.

DSL has a chance of running a permanent node. Dialup doesn't, unless
it's unmetered dialup, and even then it's not going to get many requests
once the connected nodes realize it's dialup.

 4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.

Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug
report.

 5. The updates and re-seeds seem to be distancing us from the majority
 of the  data-holding nodes out there that are not updating often enough
 (or not updating at all)

Updates and reseeds?

 6. As per performance: Your OS shouldn't matter(though the L is king
 (-;), your cpu and ram will virtually max-out to whatever you've got
 available, and then some, 

The major memory leaks were fixed. If it is still leaking in the current
stable build, that is a bug, please report it.

 and pulling your pants down off firewall just
 means people will get offended at such a sight but it won't help your
 node. And store size? Don't make no difference either.

That's not what I've heard from others.

 7.The java threads are inconstant. I now have to restart several 
 times a day and after killing all threads the restart can spawn 
 anywhere from 1 to 20+ threads depending on the random seed of the
 moment.

20+?! 20 is NOTHING! The default thread limit is 120.

 8.I'd say if all data were stored and retained by freenet from one
 build to the next the performance would be outstanding(compared to 
 now)and, programmer dudes, put a tighter leash on that Java bulldog.

Uhm. Firstly, it's not possible for freenet to retain all data. The only
way to do it would be to refuse any new data inserts. Secondly, just
because it's there somewhere doesn't mean we can find it - that is the
hard part.
  
 Because of recent performance declines I have been severely tempted 
 to drop freenet but I refuse because it'll be one of the last freedoms 
 that the fascists kill and I want to be there to watch it die.
 I offer my machine to run whatever service I can to make this thing 
 work better for all of us.  Any takers?
 
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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:37:34 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.
Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug
report.
My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
stable builds have been really good already ..

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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:37:34 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.
 
 Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug
 report.
 
 My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
 stable builds have been really good already ..

They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
 
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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Joe Drew
Toad writes: 

On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
stable builds have been really good already ..
They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone away 
(I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due 
to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been 
worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's 
not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever 
been. 

You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't 
need support. :) 

For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
- Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
- Re-seed with the stable seeds;
- Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
- Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
- Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in 
start-freenet.sh);
- Increase store size to 4 GB. 

Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store 
size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:57:55AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
 Toad writes: 
 
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
 stable builds have been really good already ..
 
 They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
 unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
 
 With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone 
 away (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect 
 due to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been 
 worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's 
 not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever 
 been. 

Actually it's a bug in the node... we were leaking memory quite heavily.
 
 You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't 
 need support. :) 

:)

It would be nice if occasionally people said 5075 works much better
than 5074 as well as 5076 works much worse than 5075 :)
 
 For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
 - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
 - Re-seed with the stable seeds;
 - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
 - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
 - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in 
 start-freenet.sh);
 - Increase store size to 4 GB. 
 
 Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my 
 store size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
You don't get lots of RNFs?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:57:55AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
 Toad writes: 
 
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
 stable builds have been really good already ..
 
 They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
 unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
 
 With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone 
 away (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect 
 due to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been 
 worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's 
 not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever 
 been. 
 
 You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't 
 need support. :) 
 
 For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
 - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
 - Re-seed with the stable seeds;
 - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
 - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
 - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in 
 start-freenet.sh);
 - Increase store size to 4 GB. 
 
 Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my 
 store size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Joe Drew
Toad writes: 

On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:57:55AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone 
away (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect 
due to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been 
worked around)
Actually it's a bug in the node... we were leaking memory quite heavily.
I guess it's debatable whether that's a bug in the jvm or not. Oh well, 
that's neither here nor there; it's fixed now! :) 

In another message, Toad writes:
You don't get a lot of RNFs?
I get them, but not on every page load. It happens when traffic is high, 
unsurprisingly; I see it fairly often at about 10pm EST, but almost never 
(recently, anyways) in the morning, like right now. They come up at least as 
often as Data not Found in my experience.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:31:37AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
 Toad writes: 
 
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:57:55AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
 With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone 
 away (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage 
 collect due to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems 
 it's been worked around)
 
 Actually it's a bug in the node... we were leaking memory quite heavily.
 
 I guess it's debatable whether that's a bug in the jvm or not. Oh well, 
 that's neither here nor there; it's fixed now! :) 

It's a matter of fact that there was a significant space leak in Fred.
 
 In another message, Toad writes:
 You don't get a lot of RNFs?
 
 I get them, but not on every page load. It happens when traffic is high, 
 unsurprisingly; I see it fairly often at about 10pm EST, but almost never 
 (recently, anyways) in the morning, like right now. They come up at least 
 as often as Data not Found in my experience.

Interesting...
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Re: [freenet-support] update.sh always overwrites seednodes.ref

2004-03-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:32, Toad wrote:

 
 The routing table will not be overwritten unless either:
 a) The seednodes.ref is more recent than the routing table OR
 b) The routing table is trashed, for example because all the nodes in it
 are incompatible with the current code after a network reset.

In the a) case, the RT is fully overwritten or appended ?

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Re: [freenet-support] update.sh always overwrites seednodes.ref

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 03:41:02PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:32, Toad wrote:
 
  
  The routing table will not be overwritten unless either:
  a) The seednodes.ref is more recent than the routing table OR
  b) The routing table is trashed, for example because all the nodes in it
  are incompatible with the current code after a network reset.
 
 In the a) case, the RT is fully overwritten or appended ?

Random nodes are picked from the seednodes and added to the RT until we
run out or fill it.
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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:44:08 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
The huge memory leak is fixed, and transfer speeds has gone up :)  
Regarding RNFs .. well, maybe - I haven't done extensive browsing since  
the last version. I'll do that this evening and report the results, but I  
have had no problems at all inserting 30-40Mb with ok speeds recently  
with FUQID, as an example.

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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Someone
Toad schrieb:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:

My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
stable builds have been really good already ..


They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
Yes, they have. It is the first time my node was running for over 72 hours
without fully claiming the allowed heap size (I had to stop it because I
needed my full bandwith for some work, it would have run much longer). Also
this is the first build where my node is able to serve around 1 QPH, with
older builds the highest I have seen was around 8000 QPH.
I can browse freshly inserted freesites very fast, and even very old ones
are coming in a little bit faster.
The only downside is that many freesite authors have stopped maintaining their
sites. Maybe because of the still very slow insert performance of fiw, which
still takes 36 hours to successfully insert a 4 MB freesite (fuqid inserts much
faster).
Greets someone

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RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Aman Pervaiz
Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now.
I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine 
of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions.
I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB
files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a couple
of  hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than
stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian and
the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :)
Aryan

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville



Toad writes:

 On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last 
 stable builds have been really good already ..

 They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
 unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...

With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone away
(I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due
to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's
not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever
been.

You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't
need support. :)

For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
 - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
 - Re-seed with the stable seeds;
 - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
 - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
 - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in
start-freenet.sh);
 - Increase store size to 4 GB.

Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store
size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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[freenet-support] Build 5074 : Re-seeding for dummies

2004-03-10 Thread notmyrealemail


Hi,

In linux :

I was able to re-seed my node by first running

% ./update.sh

and then touching the seednodes.ref. 

% touch seednodes.ref


*** This will replace your routing table when you start your node again ***

Anyway, now all icons load on web interface and things are really looking
better. 

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
Is your dialup connection unmetered? If so, you may be able to run a
permanent node. Even if you can't, I suggest you run Frost (with a
smallish number of threads perhaps), it is good at generating traffic,
to help the node learn about the network. In a few days, the node may
learn enough to get around the network.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:50:08PM +0500, Aman Pervaiz wrote:
 Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now.
 I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine 
 of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions.
 I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB
 files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a couple
 of  hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than
 stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian and
 the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :)
 Aryan
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Cc: 
   Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
   
   
 
   Toad writes:
   
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last 
stable builds have been really good already ..
   
They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
   
   With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone away
   (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due
   to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
   worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's
   not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever
   been.
   
   You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't
   need support. :)
   
   For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
- Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
- Re-seed with the stable seeds;
- Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
- Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
- Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in
   start-freenet.sh);
- Increase store size to 4 GB.
   
   Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store
   size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:50:08PM +0500, Aman Pervaiz wrote:
 Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now.
 I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine 
 of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions.
 I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB
 files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a couple

Uhm, do you mean 14MB?

 of  hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than
 stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian and
 the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :)
 Aryan
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Cc: 
   Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
   
   
 
   Toad writes:
   
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last 
stable builds have been really good already ..
   
They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
   
   With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone away
   (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due
   to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
   worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's
   not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever
   been.
   
   You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't
   need support. :)
   
   For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
- Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
- Re-seed with the stable seeds;
- Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
- Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
- Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in
   start-freenet.sh);
- Increase store size to 4 GB.
   
   Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store
   size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Toad wrote:

[ranty stuff edited out]
  My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last
  stable builds have been really good already ..

 They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
 unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...

One thing I am liking about Freenet being implemented in Java is that I
can just plot in the .JAR file and get on with my life on an imporved
FreeNet without spending an hour building stuff.  And hooboy did it spend
a long time building to make the system able to run freenet.  Download
this here, that there (actually it was all from sun's site - I want to
shoot their lawyers in a place that would relieve them of their manhood)
put it all in /usr/ports/distfile and start a biuild that would be full of
fireworks and surprises took about 2+ hours on my poor celery 450 FreeBSD
box.  It isn't loading the system too badly (I hope)...
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread vinyl1
I have a similar machine with Win2K and dialup, and can't get anywhere.

I'm not surprised that I can't retrieve much freesite content, although
surprisingly I can get a fair number of Frost messages.

What baffled me is that I was unable to insert a small (1.9 meg) file with
FUQID.  After configuring so that FUQID connects to my client port
correctly, it goes ahead and opens ten threads, but all the insert attempts
with them fail and they keep retrying and failing again.  I used to be able
to insert easily, and I have retrieved 30 meg files running overnight.

I'll try with some new seed nodes.  The obvious thing to do is get a more
modern machine and broadband.


- Original Message -
From: Aman Pervaiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville


 Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now.
 I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine
 of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions.
 I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB
 files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in
a couple
 of  hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better
than
 stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad,
Ian and
 the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :)
 Aryan

 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc:
 Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville



 Toad writes:

  On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
  My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the
last
  stable builds have been really good already ..
 
  They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
  unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...

 With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone
away
 (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due
 to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
 worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's
 not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever
 been.

 You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't
 need support. :)

 For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
 - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
 - Re-seed with the stable seeds;
 - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
 - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
 - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in
 start-freenet.sh);
 - Increase store size to 4 GB.

 Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my
store
 size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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[freenet-support] Re: This error is showing up in my logs a LOT (added config info)

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:

 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:49:20 -0800 (PST)
 From: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Freenet Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: This error is showing up in my logs a LOT


 How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively:

 Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89,
 ERROR): SocketException t$
 java.net.SocketException: Bad address
 at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method)
 at
 java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204)
 at
 freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95)
 at
 freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82)
 at
 freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56)
 at
 freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:157)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.java)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67)
 at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256)
 at
 freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214)


My current freenet.conf looks like this:


listenPort=2000
#routingTableImp=ng
seedNodes=seednodes.ref
ipAddress=24.70.68.243
outputBandwidthLimit=12288
inputBandwidthLimit=12288
storeSize=5144M
threadFactory=Y
mainport.port=
mainport.bindAddress=*
mainport.allowedHosts=192.168.0.0/24, localhost, ruby
---

network config: router WAN is 24.70.68.243 listening at 2000
directed to local machine 192.168.0.15 at port 2000
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Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-10 Thread Conrad Sabatier

On 11-Mar-2004 Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
 
 How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively:
 
 Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89,
 ERROR): SocketException t$
 java.net.SocketException: Bad address
 at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method)
 at
 java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204)
 at
 freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95)
 at
 freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82)
 at
 freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56)
 at
 freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210
 )
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.jav
 a:157)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.jav
 a)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67)
 at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256)
 at
 freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214)

I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK.  Which version are
you using?

I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread). 
The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4.  I'd strongly recommend upgrading.
It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK
installed (which I assume you do now).

HTH

-- 
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Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


 I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK.  Which version are
 you using?

 I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread).
 The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4.  I'd strongly recommend upgrading.
 It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK
 installed (which I assume you do now).

#java -version
java version 1.4.2_02
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_02-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_02-b03, mixed mode)

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Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

 I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK.  Which version are
 you using?

 I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread).
 The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4.  I'd strongly recommend upgrading.
 It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK
 installed (which I assume you do now).

#java -version
java version 1.4.2_02
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_02-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_02-b03, mixed mode)

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings

2004-03-10 Thread Nicholas Sturm

Would you possibly agree with this, There is no known way to meaningfully
evaluate the performance of freenet?


 [Original Message]
 From: Conrad Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: vinyl1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 3/9/2004 7:28:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings


 On 09-Mar-2004 vinyl1 wrote:
  OK, I have the latest build (5074), the latest seed nodes, the latest
  everything I could find as of today, 3/8/2004
  
  On the Web interface, I can't load The Freedom Engine, Dolphin's Free
Index,
  and Content of Evil.  I can load the Freenet Help Index and YoYo.  This
is
  possibly due to unreachable, out-of-date nodes.  The stuff that does
load
  seems to work better than before.

 Basing your evaluation of your node's performance on what's appearing
and/or
 reachable via the main web interface is not a good idea.  Most of the
gateway
 sites have been horribly unreliable for quite some time now (with the
exception
 of DFI).  I really don't know why this is the case; I've had no trouble
at all
 inserting DFI daily.  To ensure that the next DBR update is inserted in
time, I
 always start the update process (an automated, scheduled job) at least 1
1/2
 hours prior to the rollover time (12:00 am GMT).  I'm wondering if other
 gateway site maintainers are not allowing enough time in advance for their
 inserts to complete on time.

 DFI's insert got a little screwed up yesterday, due to the fact that I
was in
 the process of running a portupgrade of my JDK under FreeBSD.  Probably
due to
 the additional load on the system from running the build, FIW somehow
ended up
 inserting DFI one day further into the future than it was supposed to.  I
didn't
 discover this and finally get the problem corrected until about 8:30 pm
CST
 (2:30 am GMT).

 I saw someone else here basing assumptions about their node's behavior on
the
 fact that they couldn't reach YoYo!  Unfortunately, Yoyo! is one of the
more
 unreliable sites lately (no idea why).

 Anyway, the gist of the idea is this: don't assume that non-functioning
gateway
 sites mean your node is not working.

 -- 
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