Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project
What you actually said was, in your own annoying paste style: Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you may think about it yourself! I can see how this would piss Ian off. Also, how many people have @freenetproject.org addresses? Very few IIRC. I assume you never had shell access to dodo; I would certainly object to THAT, as that would be a serious security risk, as you seem incapable of basic computer security hygiene (i.e. not running Microsoft Outlook Express). However, thank you very much for freenethelp.org, even if you have been trying to offload it lately. And thanks for helping the n00b, even if your earlier comments may not have been helpful, and you seem to be advancing an agenda of we-should-all-go-to-i2p-and-give-up-on-freenet, which strayed into your email to the newbie. On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:05:00AM +0100, Newsbyte wrote: Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very little of my bandwidth. It's rather good. It's way more then my average Open connections, and it indicates that it's not really a firewall/NAT problem. BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've given it are not nearly enough. 300MB is very little, to be honest. But of course it depends on the size of your HD. Normally, it is (should be) set to 10% of your free HD-space. Now, may I ask you if you feel I have helped/supported you with my posts? I ask that, because I just got emailed by Ian saying he kicked me out of the project (well, at least he disabled my freenetproject account) because of my first post to you. It seems he did not think it belonged in support, but ah, we all know it has more to do with him having difficulties to cope with the critisism I give on the current performance and developmentprocess of Freenet. Which is often sarcastic, true, but he should have the maturity to keep his personal feelings of being annoyed/agitated out of the project. He asks me why that I should explain the *support* mailing list is consistent with you having an email address that implies you are a part of this project but at the same time says I shouldn't bother because all what I send goes directly into the bin anyhow - again not very mature. For a libertarian as he claims to be, this is rather spicious reasoning. In any case, since email isn't going to help, I will say it here: 1)First of all, being part of the project isn't just a matter of making a post on the correct list, or not. (or, the real reason: being sarcastic and critical of Freenet or not). 2)Being part of a project is, obviously, also derived from whether you do something for the project or not. So what did I do for the project? I have sought and found sponsors, I have created and maintained the freenethelp wiki, I run and test a freenode, I insert content in the network and only last week I updated the freenetproject webpage through cvs (which possibly I can't do anymore, now). Since those things are all part of the project, I conclude I *AM* indeed part of the project, whether Ian feels bitten in his ass by my comments or not. (Which can also be seen as helpful, as some other poster already indicated) 3)The main premise, that the post in question was not helpful or supportive, is debatable. Clearly Ian doesn't think so, but that doesn't mean the newbie that I responded to thinks the same. It's rather subjective, but it wasn't Ian asking support, so he should not presume to know whether it was or not. (but again, we all know the real reason). So, that's why I ask you. If you found it helpful or supportive in any way, then his presumed reason for kicking me out is untenable. And even if he doesn't, it still leaves my two other points. If I were to react so childish, I would have to say: well, if I'm not part of the project anymore, why should I keep freenethelp up, why shouldn't I revert all my changes to the website back, why should I do anything else? But such things are childish tit-for-tat reasonings, and I am not going for such a thing. If you don't like what I say, then say so, or ignore me; things a libertarian would do. Fighting for free speech but at the same time kicking someone out because you can't cope with what he says seems more then a bit contradictory to me, frankly. That's simply not true. How many people have addresses @freenetproject.org ? How many of those people openly advocate giving up on Freenet, especially to content authors? Membership is largely irrelevant and nonexistant. Many people help us with donations, content, code, and the website, and there is little formal structure. Anyway... I doubt Ian will change his mind; he's much to stuborn for it, and he's not really interested in being reasonable neither, as is aparent in
[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project
Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very little of my bandwidth. It's rather good. It's way more then my average Open connections, and it indicates that it's not really a firewall/NAT problem. BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've given it are not nearly enough. 300MB is very little, to be honest. But of course it depends on the size of your HD. Normally, it is (should be) set to 10% of your free HD-space. Now, may I ask you if you feel I have helped/supported you with my posts? I ask that, because I just got emailed by Ian saying he kicked me out of the project (well, at least he disabled my freenetproject account) because of my first post to you. It seems he did not think it belonged in support, but ah, we all know it has more to do with him having difficulties to cope with the critisism I give on the current performance and developmentprocess of Freenet. Which is often sarcastic, true, but he should have the maturity to keep his personal feelings of being annoyed/agitated out of the project. He asks me why that I should explain the *support* mailing list is consistent with you having an email address that implies you are a part of this project but at the same time says I shouldn't bother because all what I send goes directly into the bin anyhow - again not very mature. For a libertarian as he claims to be, this is rather spicious reasoning. In any case, since email isn't going to help, I will say it here: 1)First of all, being part of the project isn't just a matter of making a post on the correct list, or not. (or, the real reason: being sarcastic and critical of Freenet or not). 2)Being part of a project is, obviously, also derived from whether you do something for the project or not. So what did I do for the project? I have sought and found sponsors, I have created and maintained the freenethelp wiki, I run and test a freenode, I insert content in the network and only last week I updated the freenetproject webpage through cvs (which possibly I can't do anymore, now). Since those things are all part of the project, I conclude I *AM* indeed part of the project, whether Ian feels bitten in his ass by my comments or not. (Which can also be seen as helpful, as some other poster already indicated) 3)The main premise, that the post in question was not helpful or supportive, is debatable. Clearly Ian doesn't think so, but that doesn't mean the newbie that I responded to thinks the same. It's rather subjective, but it wasn't Ian asking support, so he should not presume to know whether it was or not. (but again, we all know the real reason). So, that's why I ask you. If you found it helpful or supportive in any way, then his presumed reason for kicking me out is untenable. And even if he doesn't, it still leaves my two other points. If I were to react so childish, I would have to say: well, if I'm not part of the project anymore, why should I keep freenethelp up, why shouldn't I revert all my changes to the website back, why should I do anything else? But such things are childish tit-for-tat reasonings, and I am not going for such a thing. If you don't like what I say, then say so, or ignore me; things a libertarian would do. Fighting for free speech but at the same time kicking someone out because you can't cope with what he says seems more then a bit contradictory to me, frankly. Anyway... I doubt Ian will change his mind; he's much to stuborn for it, and he's not really interested in being reasonable neither, as is aparent in his comment that he asks to explain myself, but won't read my explanation. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:05:00 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: 300MB is very little, to be honest. But of course it depends on the size of your HD. Normally, it is (should be) set to 10% of your free HD-space. The default was 256MB, but the HD I installed Freenet on only had 1 GB free... Now, may I ask you if you feel I have helped/supported you with my posts? I ask that, because I just got emailed by Ian saying he kicked me out of the project (well, at least he disabled my freenetproject account) because of my first post to you. I'm sorry to read that. Yes, I thought your posts were helpful, after all when someone says yes it is slow then I can stop worrying about my configuration. I got Frost running now, thanks to everyone here. Turns out I had the version for Java 1.5 but my system has Java 1.4... should I upgrade? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Tech] [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project
On 1 Dec 2004, at 10:05, Newsbyte wrote: Now, may I ask you if you feel I have helped/supported you with my posts? I ask that, because I just got emailed by Ian saying he kicked me out of the project (well, at least he disabled my freenetproject account) I wasn't aware that you were ever in the project to be kicked out of it (whatever being in the project means). Very few people have @freenetproject.org email addresses, you got one because you asked for it and because you said it would help you raise donations for the project. So far as I can see you no longer even use it, so I don't see why you are whining about losing something that many people who have made a much more significant contribution to the project than you have never even asked for. because of my first post to you. It seems he did not think it belonged in support, but ah, we all know it has more to do with him having difficulties to cope with the critisism I give on the current performance and developmentprocess of Freenet. Which is often sarcastic, true, but he should have the maturity to keep his personal feelings of being annoyed/agitated out of the project. I have no problem whatsoever with criticism, but I do have a problem when it is expressed in a sarcastic and personal manner. You have a right to say whatever you want, but I have a right not to endorse your opinions by giving you a project email address that you don't need and don't use. He asks me why that I should explain the *support* mailing list is consistent with you having an email address that implies you are a part of this project but at the same time says I shouldn't bother because all what I send goes directly into the bin anyhow - again not very mature. There is nothing mature or immature about my decision to ignore you, it is my personal preference based on the observation that most of what you say isn't very useful, and that it is generally expressed with extremely poor spelling and without bothering to follow even the most rudimentary email conventions. For a libertarian as he claims to be, this is rather spicious reasoning. When did I claim to be a libertarian, how is my not endorsing your emails in any way anti-libertarian, and what does spicious mean? 1)First of all, being part of the project isn't just a matter of making a post on the correct list, or not. (or, the real reason: being sarcastic and critical of Freenet or not). No, being a part of this or any project is about constructive criticism, but not sarcastic and personal criticism directed at those who have contributed far more to the project than you have. 2)Being part of a project is, obviously, also derived from whether you do something for the project or not. So what did I do for the project? I have sought and found sponsors, Yes you have, and I am grateful to those sponsors, and to you for finding them, but note that the total amount raised was less than numerous individual donations the project has received. This was also quite some time ago. 3)The main premise, that the post in question was not helpful or supportive, is debatable. Clearly Ian doesn't think so, but that doesn't mean the newbie that I responded to thinks the same. It's rather subjective, but it wasn't Ian asking support, so he should not presume to know whether it was or not. (but again, we all know the real reason). The portion of your comment which the poster found to be helpful was not the portion that I objected to. Please explain what this means and its relevance on a mailing list intended to help new users learn how to use Freenet. Also, please explain what you are implying by suggesting that he ask Matthew and I. Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you may think about it yourself If I were to react so childish, I would have to say: well, if I'm not part of the project anymore, why should I keep freenethelp up, why shouldn't I revert all my changes to the website back, why should I do anything else? But such things are childish tit-for-tat reasonings, and I am not going for such a thing. Yes, you are never childish... Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you may think about it yourself ...oops, finger must have slipped on the paste button there, careless me :-) If you don't like what I say, then say so, or ignore me; things a libertarian would do. I do both. Fighting for free speech but at the same time kicking someone out because you can't cope with what he says seems more then a bit contradictory to me, frankly. Ok, now I am going to say this real slow since you are obviously having trouble
