[freenet-support] Re: Secure NIMs?

2004-07-02 Thread Jano
Someone wrote:
Jano schrieb:
Freemail is an idea I like a lot but at least my windows experience 
has been... lacking. The alpha 20 has been there for ages... is it 
still under development? Is someone using it on stable?

I tried to use it on stable, but it doesn't work that good. Almost all of
the times it tries to insert a message an gets a RNF it doesn't remember
the slot it used to insert. So after some hours the same message got 
inserted
in multiple slots. To make it worse, the message somehow got through and 
got
confirmed by the receiver, but freemail didn't get it right and was still
trying to insert the message. After an manual count I saw that the one
message I did send was inserted into about 80 receiver slots and there was
no way to tell freemail to stop inserting it again and again into new 
slots.

Additionally the freemail process stalled totally after some hours using
all available CPU which means I had to run it on a very low priority or
it would starve my freenet node to death.
All this is with the latest windows version of freemail, don't know if
the linux version runs better.
My conclusion about it: nice idea but far from beeing usable at the moment.
I had forgot about the 100% CPU issue, but it happened to me too. In my 
case the message wasn't being inserted multiple times, but was being 
tried to be inserted into an used slot, and the collisions triggered 
some exception which prevented freemail from any further normal operation.

Nonetheless, I managed to exchange several messages between two test 
identities. I hope the project will eventually continue.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Secure NIMs?

2004-07-01 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 02:41:17PM +0200, Jano wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean, like Freemail?
 
 http://www.freenet.org.nz/freemail/
 
 Freemail is an idea I like a lot but at least my windows experience has 
 been... lacking. The alpha 20 has been there for ages... is it still 
 under development? Is someone using it on stable?

It doesn't seem to be. I sent him an email (not a freemail) to ask about
a feature, and never got a reply. However at least we have the tarball;
it is under the GPL so it can be maintained even if he disappears. Of
course we need to store a copy of the site...
 
 Thanks for the rest of your comments. I was more interested in an 
 automated, a-la NIM solution, but I should have known that if NIMs 
 aren't like that is for a reason.

Well... FreeMail is quite usefully automated. And should be reasonably
reliable as long as Freenet is working... of course freenet isn't
working well enough for FreeMail to work well...
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[freenet-support] Re: Secure NIMs?

2004-07-01 Thread Jano
Toad wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 02:41:17PM +0200, Jano wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean, like Freemail?
http://www.freenet.org.nz/freemail/
Freemail is an idea I like a lot but at least my windows experience has 
been... lacking. The alpha 20 has been there for ages... is it still 
under development? Is someone using it on stable?

It doesn't seem to be. I sent him an email (not a freemail) to ask about
a feature, and never got a reply. However at least we have the tarball;
it is under the GPL so it can be maintained even if he disappears. Of
course we need to store a copy of the site...
Thanks for the rest of your comments. I was more interested in an 
automated, a-la NIM solution, but I should have known that if NIMs 
aren't like that is for a reason.

Well... FreeMail is quite usefully automated. And should be reasonably
reliable as long as Freenet is working... of course freenet isn't
working well enough for FreeMail to work well...
I've seen it work almost fine for some time over unstable, but at some 
point something gets corrupted in the database and no progress can be 
made; messages don't get dispatched nor received... at least that's not 
freenet's fault. It was on a WinXP.

Yesterday I tried to run it in linux and didn't managed to insert my 
identity on stable. Too many time stuck, and the node was running 
great... maybe I'll try some other day.

But seriously, the concept of freemail is great... I'd say a must have 
application for a working freenet 1.0

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[freenet-support] Re: Secure NIMs?

2004-07-01 Thread Someone
Jano schrieb:
Freemail is an idea I like a lot but at least my windows experience has 
been... lacking. The alpha 20 has been there for ages... is it still 
under development? Is someone using it on stable?
I tried to use it on stable, but it doesn't work that good. Almost all of
the times it tries to insert a message an gets a RNF it doesn't remember
the slot it used to insert. So after some hours the same message got inserted
in multiple slots. To make it worse, the message somehow got through and got
confirmed by the receiver, but freemail didn't get it right and was still
trying to insert the message. After an manual count I saw that the one
message I did send was inserted into about 80 receiver slots and there was
no way to tell freemail to stop inserting it again and again into new slots.
Additionally the freemail process stalled totally after some hours using
all available CPU which means I had to run it on a very low priority or
it would starve my freenet node to death.
All this is with the latest windows version of freemail, don't know if
the linux version runs better.
My conclusion about it: nice idea but far from beeing usable at the moment.
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[freenet-support] Re: Secure NIMs?

2004-06-30 Thread Jano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean, like Freemail?
http://www.freenet.org.nz/freemail/
Freemail is an idea I like a lot but at least my windows experience has 
been... lacking. The alpha 20 has been there for ages... is it still 
under development? Is someone using it on stable?

Thanks for the rest of your comments. I was more interested in an 
automated, a-la NIM solution, but I should have known that if NIMs 
aren't like that is for a reason.

Cheers,
Alex.
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