Freerunner GPIO locations
hi all, apologies if this question is answered elsewhere, i've done lots of searching of the openmoko wiki and the web, and can't find an answer i'd like to interface my freerunner with hardware switches to control some software. i believe gpio is the best way to do this, and have help from various bodies at my local maker space to do so. problem is, i can't locate the gpio pins on the motherboard. are there any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ cheers, -- robin What the world needs now is love sweet love ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
qtmoko and ubifs
hi, i tried flashing the latest qtmoko last night - it flashed with no errors, but then wouldn't boot. lots of errors such as: INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies) INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294916048/2000 jiffies) INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294922048/14000 jiffies) i used a very recent version of neotool (from last week i think), and the version of dfu in ubuntu 10.10 http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Installation#Method_1:_Installing_on_NAND and according to this, that should work or have i missed something? cheers -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
problems with qtmoko and kernel modules
hi, i upgraded qtmoko (not sure which version, how do i check?) a couple of weeks ago, and tried to login via ssh last night. the red LED started flashing (kernel panic if i recall correctly?), and the phone froze. ssh was refused, with a 'no route to host' error. i rebooted, and ran lsmod, which returned nothing, no modules loaded. so, i tried depmod and got an error that /lib/modules/ was missing i looked in /lib/modules, and the only folder there was different to my kernel number (gleaned from running uname -a). what's happened here, can anyone help me fix it? the kernel version i'm running is 2.6.29-rc3-v26 the modules installed appear to be 2.6.29-rc3-v21 my upgrade method was the one described here: http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Update cheers -- robin Auckland's Creative Space - http://tangleball.co.nz/ http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: upgrading qtmoko
On 8 September 2010 09:48, Robin Paulson wrote: > i've been using v22 (i think) of qtmoko for a while now, and would > like to upgrade to v26 > > i understand the only difference between debian and qtmoko is the > contents of /opt/qtmoko. is this correct? > > if so, is upgrading as simple as untarring the relevant bits of the > filesystem into /opt? > > or are there other changes, necessitating replacing the entire file system? i guess i should update the kernel also, which means /usr/lib/modules must be updated. is there anything else my main concern is to not overwrite global/user-level settings changes i've made to the phone ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
upgrading qtmoko
i've been using v22 (i think) of qtmoko for a while now, and would like to upgrade to v26 i understand the only difference between debian and qtmoko is the contents of /opt/qtmoko. is this correct? if so, is upgrading as simple as untarring the relevant bits of the filesystem into /opt? or are there other changes, necessitating replacing the entire file system? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[qtmoko] pxt/mms messages
according to this page, i can possible receive and send pxt (mms) messages. is this correct? http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Screenshots#Messages: could someone run through how to set up the phone to do that? if it matters, i'm on 2degrees new zealand cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: pisi configuration file
On 27 May 2010 13:40, Ted King wrote: > I just got my Freerunner a couple of weeks ago and recently installed pisi > on SHR-testing to bring in contacts from a vcf file. I read all of the > instructions that explained where to put the config file and also read the > example config file itself. The only thing I do not know is what exactly to > call the config file, as everytime I have tried to start pisi I get a > message explaining that it cannot find the configuration file. > > Any thoughts or answers? looks like it needs to be called 'conf' (without the quotes) http://wiki.github.com/kichkasch/pisi/an-end-user ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: need sugestions
2009/11/23 Iurii : > i tried the suggestions of wiki but... i forced problems with it and i still > cant connect it that's why i asked here( i use this bash script to connect. it probably has errors and bad practice contained within, but it works for me: sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sudo ifconfig eth2 up ssh r...@192.168.0.202 there are other methods. some of them may be better eth2 may be your neo connection, it might not be. it depends upon the network cards in your computer try running ifconfig to find out which connection the neo is given ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: need sugestions
2009/11/23 Iurii : > i have ubuntu 8.10 as well for developing can you give me the steps to > connect it on it because is not recognizing as well a wise choice have a look on the wiki (it's very useful is the wiki) for usb networking all your questions will be answered ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: need sugestions
2009/11/23 Iurii : > looks pretty nice can you say me as well where can i find a driver for > windows XP because Xp is not recognizing the usb connection no, that's not surprising. windows is slightly crap you see you really will be *much* better off using a decent operating system - the hoops you have to jump through just to do something simple like connect via ssh are ridiculous. if you must persist with windows, take a look on the wiki for rndis.inf ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: how can I make phone call with open moko? (perhaps is a battery issue)
2009/10/9 Zhang Weiwu : >> yers, i find mine needs rebooting every day or so. there are some who >> have issues with the screen not turning on when it comes out of >> suspend > How is the behavior when it freezes and need a reboot? In my case if I > touch the screen, it turns white, and nothing. Press any button on the > phone (there are not so many in total), no respond, then I have to > reboot it. > Is it the same case with you? no, i've never had a wsod - the screen goes black very occasionally also, sometimes it won't suspend after a call, or the dialler app won't close when the other person hangs up ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: how can I make phone call with open moko? (perhaps is a battery issue)
2009/10/8 Zhang Weiwu : > In 2008 the phone arrived with battery life of less than one day, > because it doesn't suspend right. I put it on the self as I cannot use > it. Two months ago a friend gets SHR running on it which looks much more > useful than it was before, but sometimes when it suspend, a phone call > can wake it up, sometimes it doesn't, and usually at the end of a day it > cannot wake up (in the morning it works fine, perhaps because it is > newly charged). yers, i find mine needs rebooting every day or so. there are some who have issues with the screen not turning on when it comes out of suspend > Instead of exploring all 10 distributions and try different versions of > each, my simple answer as a user (not a developer for openmoko yet) is, > what can I do to make my free runner work as an ordinary phone? An > ordinary phone allows me to dail whenever I need it and doesn't fail > that, it also accepts incoming call for a day or so after charged. I can > live without phone book / calendar / calculator / radio / gps etc, but I > couldn't use it if it is not usable as a phone. i use shr-unstable for several months now, and for the last 2 it's been great - reliable (save the very rare issue as above). it's fine as an every day phone, for text and calls, although it needs charging every two days > I have a feeling when it is suspended the machine still consumes a lot > of power. When it is awake it takes -204mA power according to SHR's > Setting -> Power (the -204mA is confusing so I take it as 204mA), my > battery is 1200mAh so it lasts 5 hours when fully awaken, but it lasted > such long time when most time unused (and turned black). I believe when > I don't use it it is suspended because when phone call comes in it > scrolls a lot of text which look like kernel resume message before > offering me to pick up the phone. correct > I also wonder how many other buyers of free runner use it as daily phone > and how reliable it is as a phone? plenty, from what i've heard ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: I want to receive the debian root filesystem of openmoko.
2009/9/9 Nam hyunwoo : > I want to Install debian distribution to openmoko. therefore, I was read the > Manual Debian Document(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian) and I > was receive root file > system(http://rabenfrost.net/debian/debian-armel-xfce.tar.bz2). but file > system's download link is not available. > > where is the debian root file-system? or Could you send me the root file > system's image file? there is now an easier method for installing debian, which may be useful to you. it's documented here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Meida player.
2009/9/7 CQIT Consulting : > Went from lite to full with manual instructions. > Intone I don't have. But thanks for the advice I will try. Does it play only > ogg or also mp3? sometimes probably half of my albums won't import because of hangs on certain files i'm also having major issues with playback - probably 1 in 3 times of hitting play, it freezes and mplayer has to be killed. whether that's an issues with intone or mplayer i don't know, although it seems to have got a lot worse recently so i'd guess intone - that's the only one of the two that's changed ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: options for 'date' via busybox
2009/8/16 Christian Himpel : > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 09:52, Robin Paulson wrote: >> are there any other apps/scripts/methods around that will return >> similar, and run on the freerunner? > > you could install coreutils. it contains another (maybe more common) > `date' implementation. cheers for the suggestion, that would have helped, but i figured out busybox a few minutes ago. seems a whole lot of functionality isn't documented. trial and error was the only way. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
options for 'date' via busybox
hi all, i'm trying to use date to print the date in a format i want, but i'm finding the options difficult to work with. using a full 'date' on my desktop, i can do: $ date -d now +%B to print the name of the month as a text string, but the cut down version on shr doesn't like this, complaining about the 'now' option as unknown does anyone have any ideas how i could do this? the documentation at busybox.org is brief, but it appears i can't go into this sort of detail are there any other apps/scripts/methods around that will return similar, and run on the freerunner? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: "Echo" on discutions with om2009
2009/7/11 Nicolas Lécureuil : > since about om2009 r3 i can't phone because people i phone hear themself. > > Does someone ever had this and does someone know how to fix ? yes, a huge proportion of neo owners have had this, me included. iirc, it can be fixed by tweaking certain alsa state files. are you using an older version of om2009? maybe try upgrading to the newest (release 5?), and see if that fixes things. or try shr ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Delete me
2009/7/11 Andreas Jonasson : > I actually did click that link before I sent my initial email to you but got > an error message saying that there is a problem with the security > certificate of this site. It is recommended that I do not proceed to visit > this site. I don't understand the risk with ignoring such messages. Sorry > for the trouble. yeah, there's been discussion over this before, several people have pointed out it's a shoddy way to do things. apparently openmoko sign their own certificates (i think), so it's not recognised as coming from a certificate authority. there's three things you can do: 1. change the 'https' at the start of the address to 'http' 2. manually accept the certificate 3. tell openmoko this is a bad way to do things, and to either get certificates which aren't signed by them, or not use an https address for something as trivial as unsubscribing from an email list. it scares and confuses people to 'Add Security Exceptions' ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Delete me
2009/7/11 Esben Stien : > "Andreas Jonasson" writes: > >> Please remove me from all openmoko mailing lists. > > No, sorry. We don't have the time. Do it yourself. i can't believe you went to that effort to be mean to someone, and then said you don't have time to help him! andreas, go to the link at the bottom of this email, put your email address in the field at the bottom of the page and hit the unsubscribe button ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working
2009/7/9 Patryk Benderz : > And what distribution have you installed? Is it stock OM2007 that came > with FreeRunner? I feel confused... i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages. bill, i'd advise you to check out a more modern distribution - 2008 was only intended as a stopgap and isn't that great: 2009 and shr are both pretty advanced, but there are several others to choose from: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions has a list it also looks like you've got an issue with routing on your host machine, which may be why you're getting those 0 errors? have you configured your machine as explained on this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems to configure openmoko bridge with ubuntu
2009/6/20 Daniel Ramirez : > Well, i've been trying to configure my new Neo FreeRunner GTA02. I could > make the initial connection with my Ubuntu 9.04; i can make the computer see > the moko, i can even connect to it via ssh, but i couldn't ping the outside > world from the moko. I tried multiple methods (as are listed in the USB > Networking section) but nothing works. May somebody knows the best way to > fix it? It appears to be a problem with iptables (i wrote all the suggested > commands, nothing happend). > All the help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, have you got wicd installed? it's a replacement for the endlessly sucky network-manager (or something like that). it's a drop-in, no need to change any config, but it makes things so much easier, and it's in the ubuntu repos. i'd recommend that, and then come back if things aren't fixed. even if it doesn't sort your problem, i'd suggest using it ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [om_support] installing TangoGPS
2009/6/15 : > Well, the first time I tried the installation from opkg.org I got the same > error as with '--force-depends' > Configuring libexif > Collected errors: > * Cannot find package libsqlite3-0. > * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: > * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.6) yes, you can ignore fastscaling, it's wrong to be there the correct option for opkg is: -force-depends with only one leading hyphen. run opkg without any options, to find out what different options do > * > My original command was: > `opkg install libpixman-1-0 libglib-2.0-0 > http://www.opkg.org/packages/libexif_0.6.17_armv4t.ipk libdbus-glib-1-2 > libdbus-1-3 libcurl4 libcairo2 libsqlite3-0 > http://www.opkg.org/packages/0_tangogps_0.9.6-r2_armv4t.ipk` yes, that should work, with -force-depends > About the thing with the repo, it looks like it has been moved from > 'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/' to > 'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/'. How ever, there are > just a few pkg's in the new folder. > My second atemd has been replacing the word 'testing' with the word > 'unstable' in the feed's (/etc/opkg/all-feed.conf; /etc/opkg/arch.conf; > /etc/opkg/armv4-feed.conf; /etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf; > /etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.conf;). The result was an unusable Phone with a > compaining dbus. be careful just changing things like that, it can cause problems by the way, the part of the e-mail subject which is inside the square brackets is intended for the operating system you're inquiring about, not the name of the list, which is already listed in the address ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Where is mplayer?
2009/6/6 jamesmh : > So my question is: Where is the mplayer package? There are a number of > media player applications that explicitly require mplayer as a backend. > However, I can't seem to find a source for the mplayer package. I'm using > OM2008.12. My configured sources look like this: it's not in the repos cos of patent issues. look through the past few days' mails for explanations http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player#Using_the_Glamo_XV_acceleration will show you how to get it. very easy. you only need the first four lines, and the two commands which start with 'cp' ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OM2009 USB
2009/6/4 Ovidiu Gavril : > Hmm... ok, and how can I get access to a terminal? In this moment, it > seems all I can do is to make/receive phone calls, send/receive sms, and > access to some settings, call-log and people. How should I make the > connection with PC? eh? i'm talking about the device name, when you try to ssh in from your desktop/laptop. are you talking about that, or something else? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OM2009 USB
2009/6/4 Ovidiu Gavril : > I've just installed OM2009 release and I can't access the device with > USB. When I try to put an IP and a netmask on usb0 interface of my computer, > I get "usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device", like > nothing is connected to that interface. This works with OM2008.12 release. > Thanks in advance! it's not usb0 anymore. don't ask why; someone changed it, apparently it's more correct. the discussion is in the mailing list archives in the last few weeks. the name will be the first available eth interface. use ifconfig -a to find it ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: help for newbie, and some python
2009/6/3 Anthony Winter : > OK, good start. But - assuming that it does run from a command line (and I > still haven't found a terminal yet, but there must be one somewhere), what > are the steps in getting it run by 'clicking' on an icon, in paroli/illume? > That's the missing bit... i assumed you were connected via ssh, and could get at a terminal that way i can't remember if there is a terminal in om2009 or not - i think there is, and it's pretty good. have you discovered illume ie the desktop yet? if not, you might want to go to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#FAQ specifically, "how do i get illume?" where all your questions will be answered the wiki is great, have search - there's mountains of useful info there ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: help for newbie, and some python
2009/6/3 Anthony Winter :
> Is there any obvious way of telling what will and what won't run on om2009?
try installing it from the opkg.org repos. if it's been packaged
correctly, and has it's dependencies listed, it will refuse to install
and thrown up errors. in that case, you can either force it to install
ignoring the erros, and hope they're not critical (if you're very
fortunate), track them down from elsewhere (debian, shr, etc.) or
switch to a different distro
> And my second question: here is a tiny python/gtk program. How do I get it to
> run on the Freerunner?
python is installed by default on om2009, so run it exactly as you
would a python programme on your desktop - there really are no
important difference between that and your neo. so, copy it to
somewhere on the neo (/usr/bin might be good) and then run:
$ python base.py
assuming you have the correct gtk libraries installed, that is
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> # example base.py
> import gtk
> class Base:
>def __init__(self):
>self.window = gtk.Window(gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)
>self.window.set_title('Hello')
>self.window.set_default_size(100,100)
>self.window.show()
>def main(self):
>gtk.main()
> if __name__ == "__main__":
>base = Base()
>base.main()
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Re: Om2009 testing release 4
2009/6/2 Robin Paulson : > 2009/6/2 Al Johnson : >> On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: >>> there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot >> >> You probably don't have 4 different distros on your SD then ;-) > > no, i don't. > > but it doesn't look like it will be long before qi can do multi-boot > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Boot_Menu > alternatively, it would be very simple to create a MacOS style 'which OS do you want to use next time you boot' application, which manipulates a symbolic link to point to whichever kernel and rootfs you want to boot ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
2009/6/2 Al Johnson : > On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: >> there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot > > You probably don't have 4 different distros on your SD then ;-) no, i don't. but it doesn't look like it will be long before qi can do multi-boot http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Boot_Menu ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: help for newbie
2009/6/2 Anthony Winter : > Ok, I have installed /uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d... and > fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 > > Now I need some pointers: > Where are the apps for this distribution? there are very few apps installed by default on om2009. you will need to use opkg to install more, and keep everything up to date. best to do this over ssh, form your desktop/laptop have you got ssh running? there are more at opkg.org, which have been specifically developed for the freerunner; there is a repository which you can add to opkg, although it's having some problems at the moment take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications for more info on what you can add to your freerunner. bear in mind, that om2009 doesn't have a lot of libraries that your average distro has, so some of the stuff there only runs on shr, or some of the other community distros ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)
2009/6/1 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen : > Unfortunately, the U-Boot download link points to an ancient (>8 months > old) version of U-Boot. The latest U-Boot is here: > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ ah, good you found it. i didn't realise that link was broken >> that said, i'm sticking with qi, and development there looks much more >> active. > > Not much difference: > > U-Boot: Two commits in the last two months. [1] > qi: Three commits in the last two months. [2] well, statistics can be deceptive. you're not wrong, but: u-boot 2 commits this year qi: 50+ commits this year of course, my stats could be deceptive too, and not tell the whole story. and they don't. this is more about predicting where qi will go in future, than where it is now. and various people from om have talked about qi being the way forward. i imagine there will be no more significant changes to uboot from here onwards, whereas qi will steadily improve. i might be wrong > [1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable > [2] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qi.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master > >> there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot > > Other than being able to flash a new boot loader. :-) eh? i'm happy with qi, my fr is working well (aside from wifi), and can update qi when i need to. i was careful all the way through what i said to include what 'i' am doing, rather than what you should do cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[all] building ipk packages
can anyone tell me, if the structure of ipk packages, is the same as the structure of deb packages? they look very similar. is it the same compression method? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
2009/5/26 Max : > В Втр, 26/05/2009 в 10:11 +0300, Alexander Shulgin пишет: >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Alexander Shulgin >> wrote: >> > >> > Oh, silly me. I just realized I didn't reflash the boot loader. Will >> > try a bit later. >> >> Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) > > That's kind of scary - did I got it right that in order to use OM TR 4 I > have to flash Qi instead of u-boot? i think the critical thing is that you are using a *recent* version of whichever bootloader, be it uboot or qi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing that said, i'm sticking with qi, and development there looks much more active. there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: headset cable
2009/5/22 Seth Rothenberg : > Sorry if it's been covered, but neither I nor google remember... > Is there an adaptor for freerunner to normal 3.5mm stereo jack? > Perhaps splitting out the mic to another jack? a friend bought one of these for his neo. it works well, and i have one on the way: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310114120680&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:12 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko beginner
2009/5/18 Tilman Baumann : > But do whatever you want to do. I don't have to take you seriously. hey, easy man. you're right, people can do what they want - no need to talk down to anyone if you want to discourage people from taking part in the community, your approach is *exactly* the way to go. or, maybe it's more useful to foster people joining in; i thought that was what open-source was all about? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[om2009] problems with long messages
i've been using paroli on om2009 for a couple of days now, but have problems whenever i try to send messages longer than the limit for one text. i can type it ok, but on hitting send, the screen dims, and nothing happens. also, where is the drafts folder? if i start writing a text, and then hit 'back' without sending, where is it stored? thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Browsers and Wifi for OM2009
2009/4/20 Alok G. Singh : > Robin Paulson wrote: > >> minimo worked pretty well for me, alhough there are a few annoying bugs > > I did try to install it but there were some dependency issues. libxi6 > (iirc). Where did you install minimo from ? ugh, good question. maybe opkg?: http://www.opkg.org/package_99.html or: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Browsers and Wifi for OM2009
2009/4/18 Alok G. Singh : > OM2009 seems pretty quite functional: GPS, GPRS and telephony work just > fine. Mokomaze was uninstallable due to a dependency on libsdl. > > I was unable to find a browser and a wifi application for OM2009. Are > there any ? minimo worked pretty well for me, alhough there are a few annoying bugs as for wifi, try the knj apps - knjmokowifi is on opkg.org and is very simple but works well http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Knjrepository ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.12] sim card problems
i've had some intermittent problems with text-messaging on my fr, using the qtopia messaging app. at some points, if i try to delete a message, i get the following error: 'SIM card is not ready, are you sure you want to delete this message?' i can't remember the exact text, but it's something close to that. what's happening here, i.e. why is the sim card not 'ready' (whatever that means), and what will happen if i do delete the text? sometimes it's fixed with a reboot, sometimes not ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [shr-testing] no icons on home screen
2009/4/17 Robin Paulson : > i carried out angus' suggestions, and when the x srver re-started, i > was told there were no menu entries, and then was given an opportunity > to create some > > now i'm being told > "there was an error loading module named conman/linux-gneueabi-arm/module.so: > > would you like to unload this?" > > and still no icons on the desktop > we have explosive! opkg update and upgrade today brought in a shed-load of updated packages, and the icon problem was fixed along the way. cheers for the help, guys ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [shr-testing] no icons on home screen
2009/4/17 Angus Ainslie : > There was a bug in the paroli packaging that might have trashed your > shr-theme ( I think it uses a different one from OM's ) i installed paroli after the problems surfaced - i was mistakenly under the impression that paroli provided an application launcher and would be an alternative to illume. but it doesn't and isn't > To find the theme : > > opkg list_installed | grep theme > > It will be something like shr-theme-default or shr-illume-theme > > To fix : > > /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop > rm -rf /home/root/.e > opkg install -force-reinstall > /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start hmm, how bizzare i carried out angus' suggestions, and when the x srver re-started, i was told there were no menu entries, and then was given an opportunity to create some now i'm being told "there was an error loading module named conman/linux-gneueabi-arm/module.so: would you like to unload this?" and still no icons on the desktop ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[shr-testing] no icons on home screen
hi, i'm not sure why it happened, but there are no longer any icons on the home screen of shr. paroli starts at boot ok, and i can ssh in fine to do an opkg update, and other cli stuff /usr/share/applications is still populated the same as before the problem, and whenever i change something in one of the .desktop files, the spinning wheel appears on my desktop, as it counts the number of files there, but nothing appears installing new software doesn't do anything either any suggestions, this is very frustrating? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[all] accelerometer data errors
hi, i recall a few months ago, there was a bug somewhere (possibly kernel), that screwed up the data from the accelerometers. assuming i didn't imagine this, has it been fixed yet? i had a look around the wiki, but found nothing about it on these pages: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_Fundamentals cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Call volume
2009/4/13 B : > What I was really wanting to know was whether anyone with a FR had their > phone working at a reasonable call volume without having echo. Not > necessarily how they did it, although that is good info, but whether > this was possible at all using the FR hardware. I'm trying to decide > whether to get another phone for day to day use, as my pre-FR phone is > on its last legs. yes, lots have managed it. volume was fine with 2008.12, and there were no echoes in other regards, 2008.12 isn't so great... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.12] missing libqt
hi, i've installed quasar, a frontend for mplayer, but am having problems getting it to run: quasar: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory from a bit of search on google, i find that the -mt suffix denotes multi-threading and i can safely symlink to libqt.so.3 but this does not exist, and i cannot find which package contains it, or if it's even in the om repos any ideas, anyone? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re:
2009/2/23 : > - unable to get on the internet through usb networking although it was > possible to ssh into root. I followed the usb > networking guide on the wiki, more specifically for Ubuntu 8.10. (Error > message after attempting e.g. opkg install > openmoko-terminal2: 'An error occured: return value:2.') i think that means the package can't be found > After flashing on the 2008.12 image (kernel + rootfs): > - There no longer is a WiFi entry under the settings menu! it didn't work properly. try installing the 'services' package from opkg.org, and 'lint' to manage your connections > - unable to access the internet through usb networking. ssh into root still > works as before. Error message when > attempting opkg install has changed into: 'Could not obtain administrative > lock' (although once I got the 'An error could not obtain admin lock, means you have recently been using the gui for package management, and now cannot use opkg on the command-line to install packages, until the lock has been removed (to stop you using both at the same time, which would be bad) wait a few minutes, and the lock will be removed, then try again. > occured: return value:2.' again which I was not able to reproduce). > > Is this a hardware problem or am I just being thick? > > Thanks for any illuminations on this topic! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: reading mail
2009/2/8 William Kenworthy : > On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 19:39 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: >> 2009/2/8 Seth Rothenberg : >> > I have a funny question. >> > I am going to be travelling, >> > and hopefully will get my FR online somehow > ... >> >> yep, i get my gmail on the fr, via imap in qtmail on 2008.12 >> >> it's slow as hell, and the connection often times out, but it's >> excellent having my e-mail with me wherever i go, and have the ability >> to read whatever attachments i get sent >> > > > by slow - how many emails? It used to be very slow with a few dozen, > and impossible if you have a large inbox - is this still the case? (I > last tried with an early 2008) 1700+ i'm a compulsive hoarder, so nothing ever gets deleted there are a few things that bug me with qt mail, though. maybe someone can help: if i press 'get all mail', it only downloads the headers of messages. to get the entire mail, i have to open the mail, and press 'download this message', which is slow and clunky if there are 10 or so, and i want to read them offline so, is there a setting to force qtmail to get the entire message when it arrives, or to bulk download a selection of messages? and, is there any way to select which folders are retrieved? in fact, is there any documentation for qtmail, online? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: reading mail
2009/2/8 Seth Rothenberg : > I have a funny question. > I am going to be travelling, > and hopefully will get my FR online somehow > > What are my options for reading mail? > > I'll ask first about gmail, because my "home" mail > is hosted there.Is anyone reading it on FR? yep, i get my gmail on the fr, via imap in qtmail on 2008.12 it's slow as hell, and the connection often times out, but it's excellent having my e-mail with me wherever i go, and have the ability to read whatever attachments i get sent > I think I can use POP to read my work email...but > I don't know if I will be able to tunnel in, except if *maybe* > I can make a few hops SSH..then vpnc. > > (it might be easier to find a regular computer > and use https: than pop via 2 tunnels. :-) i'm not exactly sure what your problem is, but i can get my email over ssl no problem. it took a bit of working out (the instructions on the wiki were shocking, hopefully they're a bit clearer now i've done some work on them) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtmail ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.x] real audio streaming
has anyone had any success listening to streaming real audio on their freerunner? i got a version of mplayer compiled for arm from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player#Using_the_Glamo_XV_acceleration, but when i run i get errors about missing codecs, specifically: Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders Cannot find codec 'cook' in libavcodec... ADecoder init failed :( ADecoder init failed :( Requested audio codec family [ra10cook] (afm=realaud) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [racook] (afm=realaud) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [ra10cookwin] (afm=realaud) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [racookwin] (afm=realaud) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [racookmac] (afm=realaud) not available. Enable it at compilation. Cannot find codec for audio format 0x6B6F6F63. Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html! Audio: no sound Video: no video which looks like ffmpeg and/or libavcodec are missing - are these available anywhere else? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.x] quasar on openmoko
i'd like to put quasar on my neo, and they offer downloads for various arm architectures, but i'm not sure which is correct and i don't want to risk fubaring something. can somebody advise which to use? http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/#tdownloads of course, i assume the correct dependencies are in the repos... thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.x] autologin as root
i'd like to change my 2008 installation, so itdoesn't autologin as root when it boots. is there an option somewhere, so i can get it to autologin as a normal user? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
sms middleware scripts
hi, i installed sms-middleware last night, and would like to get the gps location request script working. i went to the wiki page [1] for it, but the link to the script is broken. does anyone here have a copy of the script, that they could share? are there any other cusotm user scripts around that could be shared on with om wiki page for the software? cheers [1] http://code.google.com/p/sms-middleware/wiki/GPSPositionRequest ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: bsod?
2009/1/11 Fernando Martins : > I think I just got a bsod: after inputing the pincode, om went to > suspend mode (*) and when I went to resume it didn't respond. I had to > take the battery out. Is this a common issue with the new image > om2008.12? I don't remember having got it with the original image, but I > used it little. Will another distribution work better? i get it occasionally, probably no more than one in 50 (this is a real guess - it's very infrequent) resumes though - i would guess you were unlucky and got it on your first suspend/resume cycle > Regards, > Fernando > > (*) the inactivity timeout is too short for my taste. Can I (easily) > increase it? yes, go to settings and tap 'Suspend' until it cycles to the amount you want ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [all distros] auto-login to hot spots that use web-based login
2009/1/11 Leonti Bielski : > Did not test it but it seems this is what you want: > http://socis.ca/node/197 > ah, looks useful. sure i can modify it for my university's login, thanks i'm guessing anything in the /etc/network/if-up.d/ folder is run whenever the system connects to a network connection? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[all distros] auto-login to hot spots that use web-based login
not really an openmoko question directly, but still relevant can anyone explain if there is a way to connect to a wifi point that uses a web-based username and password, without using my browser? ideally a bash script or something i can run with one-click? i want to get my e-mail at university without firing up minimo and entering the password ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.12] problems with wifi
i notice since upgrading to 2008.12, that there is no longer a control in 'Settings' to turn on/off the wifi chip. how do i do this now? i've installed lint and mofi in the hope there would be a control there. mofi runs, and displays 'Loading...' at the centre of the screen, and does nothing else; is it waiting for the wifi chip to appear before it will do anything else, and lint starts but doesn't appear to have a control for starting the wifi ahrdware am i missing something really obvious? the wiki says nothing about 2008.12 and wifi? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
2009/1/8 arne anka : > i've seem the total disappearance of usb0 only once -- and then the usbnet > module was gone. > unplugging/replugging the fr caused reload of the module and everything > was fine again. > > maybe you should try to manually load > usbnet > cdc_ether i tried the suggestion of using ifdown usb0 and ifup usb0. also, i'm using a different ethernet connection in networkmanager. the latter reduces the problem drastically, the former covers when there are hangs. it's not perfect, but a huge improvement - now i can actually use my freerunner thanks for all the help guys ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
2009/1/7 Joachim Ott : > 2009/1/7 Robin Paulson >> >> i'm having a lot of problems with my ssh connection over usb - it >> usually takes several attempts to connect, and >> will hang mid-way through operations very often >> >> sometimes un-plugging and re-plugging usb will sort it, sometimes >> leaving it for a minute or two, or suspending and resuming. sometimes >> it takes a reboot >> >> is this a known problem with the release, or more likely some specific >> problem here? it worked great with 2008.9, i never had a single >> problem > > Does "ssh -v r...@neo 2>ssh.log" give you a hint, when the error occurs? yeah, that hangs too, and writes nothing to the log file the phone itself doesn't hang, and i can run any apps as normal, but they won't download data - i tested tangogps, and it wouldn't get tiles so, i tried sudo ifdown usb0 sudo ifup usb0 and everything worked fine after that, so i figure it's the networking on the ubuntu side. any suggestions how to fix it? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
2009/1/8 Paul : > I'm using Kubuntu 8.10. When the connection hung, I would kill the > window (Konsole). I would have to reset the USB connection before it > worked again. A reboot was unnecessary. right. how do i reset the usb connection? if it hangs i sometimes have to end the terminal session before i can reconnect; on other occasions, leaving it for while will sort it ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
2009/1/8 Marc Rios : > Can it be maybe when the phone is suspended? It pass to me some times, but > if you disable the suspend it goes correct... no, i turned off auto-suspend. it does seem to get worse over time though. when i first connect, it's generally ok. if i leave it for a while, problems are more likely to occur >> >> Does "ssh -v r...@neo 2>ssh.log" give you a hint, when the error >> >> occurs? i'll try this when i get home tonight >> And here I was blaming it on Ubuntu. I've noticed that when it happens >> the >> IP on usb0 on the HOST is lost - this suggests to me that it's NOT just >> losing the network link, certainly not just SSH, but rather that the USB >> connection itself is dropping out momentarily. yes, i'm using ubuntu 8.10 and the hated networkmanager too, but it worked fine with 2008.9 and 8.10 when i was using it last night, nothing would resurrect the connection until i re-booted the laptop, then it worked fine again. for a short time i'm wondering if the problem is not with the phone, but networking on my laptop ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[2008.12] ssh instability
i'm having a lot of problems with my ssh connection over usb - it usually takes several attempts to connect, and will hang mid-way through operations very often sometimes un-plugging and re-plugging usb will sort it, sometimes leaving it for a minute or two, or suspending and resuming. sometimes it takes a reboot is this a known problem with the release, or more likely some specific problem here? it worked great with 2008.9, i never had a single problem thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: NTP
2008/12/20 Nick : > If I download NTPd from ntp.org and then somehow manage to compile it, will > it work (assuming a connection to the Internet)? it's in the 2008 repos try: opkg install ntp opkg install ntpclient and that should install and configure everything or look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Setting_Date_and_Time#Setting_the_date.2Ftime_automatically_with_NTP > Is the OS on the FreeRunner like other Linux Operating Systems or is there > more to consider when installing software like this? very similar to any other linux os - i've only used ubuntu previously, and find it very easy to get around om2008. the repos could do with more software included but otherwise there's little difference ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: FreeRunner does not boot although battery o.k.
2008/12/15 Preben Holm : > If I suspend the phone - I can't power it up again! > > I think it's a software issue, since the old version (2007.2) had no > trouble with this. > I'm running 2008.9 (as far as I remember). have you got an up to date u-boot? lots of power problems have been fixed with that. also, is the system up to date? these commands: opkg update opkg upgrade will do the latter; the former needs some flashing from the boot menu by the way, if you're starting a new topic it would help if you could create a new e-mail, and set the subject accordingly cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Neo due-2 - NG - last chance
2008/12/12 GreyCardinal : > How? > Please write steps > > r...@om-gta02:~# ls /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness * > /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness it's a text file; try: vi /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness assuming you have vi installed if you don't know already how to use vi, you might want a vi manual to hand before starting ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: why is my freerunner magnetic?
2008/12/3 Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> There are two speakers, you know... ;) >> >> not in the freerunner: >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_vs_Neo_FreeRunner > > Yes, in the FreeRunner. The 1973 has stereo speakers AND the handset > speaker, the FreeRunner has a Mono speaker AND the handset speaker. When > you play an audio file on the FreeRunner without a headset, the sound comes > out of the bottom of the FR, NOT out of the earpiece - that's the > loudspeaker, located near the bottom of the screen. ok, thanks guys. the vibrator driver sounds the most likely - i'd accounted for the earpiece and the speaker; neither are near enough cheers for the help ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: why is my freerunner magnetic?
2008/12/2 Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> the area in question is directly behind the battery connectors (i.e. >> away from the battery), pretty much behind the bottom-left corner of >> the screen, and is about 30mm x 30mm. it's more noticeable with the >> back taken off > > There are two speakers, you know... ;) not in the freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_vs_Neo_FreeRunner ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
why is my freerunner magnetic?
this probably seems like an odd question, but why does metallic stuff stick to the back of my freerunner? i noticed yesterday, that it had picked up a usb connector that was lying next to it. it wasn't near the speaker, so i know it's not the magnet in that. the area in question is directly behind the battery connectors (i.e. away from the battery), pretty much behind the bottom-left corner of the screen, and is about 30mm x 30mm. it's more noticeable with the back taken off i had a look at the schematics, and couldn't see anything that's likely to be magnetic, so i'm guessing something has become magnetic at some point since manufacture. the battery has been out for nearly 24 hours now, so it's something semi-permanent, not electromagnetic any ideas? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
2008/12/2 V. Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The dealers who sell Openmoko can provide insurance (2% of the price > extra) against theft, and you can use this to buy a new FR. The latter they can? i've not seen anything about this. can you point to where you got this from? as an aside, the phone may well be covered for theft under your home and contents/travel insurance. not that that will do anything for the data, but a remotely activated encryption/locking mechanism to cover that shouldn't be too difficult ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: NeoRndis.inf not working.
2008/11/29 Andrew Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What about your u-boot image? > > abatrour wrote: >> Right now I am using the latest shr images from a few days ago, but I've also >> tried a daily build from a few days ago (2008.9) and it didn't help. has anyone come up with a solution for this? i'm having the same problems, with 2008.9 and windows XP i think u-boot is from october 28th, or thereabouts ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: NTP
2008/11/28 Bastian Feder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > I'll find it very sexy if it were possible to get the time from the > GPS signal, too. (in case there is no network available) > > Any thoughts about that done by anyone? i have no idea if this works or not, but i would try seeing if gpsd will act as an ntp server. the address is 127.0.0.1. no idea about the port though, maybe try 2947? or check the docs on the gpsd homepage. is there a standard port for ntp protocol? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: NTP
2008/11/28 Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On the Clock options of the phone there is a setting for "Automatic". I > assumed this meant it would automaticly update the time using the NTP (via > the Wifi connection to the Internet or GPS). > > It doesn't seem to be doing this. > > Where can you set this server? > > Does the phone actually have this facility? have you installed ntp, ntpd and ntpclient? they're not in 2008.9 by default, not sure about fdom after install, there will be a .conf file in /etc where you can set the servers it uses ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: pythm and python-mokoui
2008/11/4 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > or is there some other problem i've not seen? update: when i run pythm-bin from the command-line, i get this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/pythm-bin", line 8, in main from pythm import startPythm File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/__init__.py", line 1, in from pythm import * File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/pythm.py", line 1, in import gtkgui File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/gtkgui/__init__.py", line 1, in from pythmgtk import * File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pythm/gtkgui/pythmgtk.py", line 3, in import gtk File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 82, in init() NameError: name 'init' is not defined ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
pythm and python-mokoui
i've been trying to use pythm recently, but get an unsatisfied dependency when i install it, and afterwards it won't run i installed http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/python-mokoui2_0.1.0+svnr4342_armv4t.ipk which appears to do nothing - pythm still won't run, and reinstalling it still gives the same error message about missing dependencies "pythm: unsatisfied recommendation for python-mokoui" what's happening here; is python-mokoui2 the same as python-mokoui? or is there a different package? or is there some other problem i've not seen? thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Bench Test FreeRunner
2008/10/30 Seth Rothenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "opkg update" fails with Om2008.9 as shipped. > (output below) > Is there a known working configuration for opkg or ipkg? with opkg update, the packages will download, but there's no signature check. IMNSHO this is a security issue, but openmoko don't seem too concerned to get the updates installed after opkg update, run # opkg upgrade ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: disable suspend when connected via usb
2008/10/28 Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> whenever i'm working with my neo over usb - be it updating with opkg, >> transferring/syncing files, etc - it goes into suspend, at inopportune >> moments. > >> where would i add an option to automatically disable suspend, whenever >> i'm connected over usb? i presume an entry in the usb0 scripts to >> change the suspend time from 30s to never? > >> where and how would i do that; has anyone else here got something >> similar already? > > Or alternatively, disable suspend whenever we have a 500mA (or more) > power source. it may be an option for some, although i would still like it to suspend when it's charging, but not being interacted with - disabling suspend then is going to hugely increase the charge time. if it's charging and has no connection over usb/wifi, then the only way i could be using it is via the screen - and it will stay out of suspend anyway then ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
disable suspend when connected via usb
whenever i'm working with my neo over usb - be it updating with opkg, transferring/syncing files, etc - it goes into suspend, at inopportune moments. where would i add an option to automatically disable suspend, whenever i'm connected over usb? i presume an entry in the usb0 scripts to change the suspend time from 30s to never? where and how would i do that; has anyone else here got something similar already? thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Blank white screen on resume
2008/10/23 Lucas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sometimes, when the phone resumes, the screen turns white and doesn't > redisplay. I've had this happen with both QtExtended and OM2008.09. Possibly > a kernel issue? Anyone seen this before? I checked the archives, but didn't > find anything. lors of people have seen it. there's an entry in the bug tracker ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: un-corrupt a microsd card?
2008/10/18 Alex Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> for the third time in the past two weeks, my freerunner has corrupted >> my microsd card. >> >> is there anyway of recovering it? >> >> i gather from other posts it's a problem with the partition table, >> rather than the actual data > I'm lucky enough to have a computer that has a built in SD card reader > that works with linux, I don't really know how common this is. > > I found that gparted, which is arguably the partition editor UI on linux > had absolutely no problems re-partitioning my micro-sd cards. i tried the sd reader on my laptop (never got it to work before, not sure what happened today), fired up gparted and it found the card i ran check, and got an error message about the superblock being corrupted, and that i should try running a check with another superblock specified. running dumpe2fs, there doesn't appear to be a backup this seems odd, so either i'm making a mistake in understanding its output, or i don't know... any help? cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
un-corrupt a microsd card?
for the third time in the past two weeks, my freerunner has corrupted my microsd card. is there anyway of recovering it? i gather from other posts it's a problem with the partition table, rather than the actual data i don't really want to reinstall debian, all the software, and copy across 5GB of music; they're not the quickest of tasks what software is recommended? and is it best to do on the freerunner, or elsewhere, in a card reader? thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [FDOM2008.9] what's this black band on Home bottom?
2008/10/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just bought a FR and installed FDOM on it, I'm happily testing TangoGPS > among others, but I can't understand what is this black overlay at the > bottom of the Home screen (semitransparent, with a star and two "+" > characters on it...) > > How do I use it? it doesn't do anything at the moment. iirc, steve mosher said it was for some planned thing, but didn't offer any more details ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: closing apps in FDOM
2008/10/14 anthony winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks for the information. Is it actually written down anywhere? no, but most bleeding-edge linux users are prepared to experiment, press all the buttons, try all the options, etc. to find out > But it doesn't work with 'Contacts'. If I have just 'Home' and 'Contacts' in > the list it 'Contacts' does not get closed. there's a 'back' button at bottom-right that will close contacts. and any other of the qtopia apps > Extra questions: > 1) what is the quickest way of shutting down the neo completely? > At present I am using a terminal and entering init 0. hold the power button down, for 5 seconds or so > 2) What do the three little + signs at the bottom of the screen do? nothing yet. to be implemented. > 3) What is the * at the bottom left for? ditto > 4) What does the (possibly) spanner-like symbol at the top right do? it's the self-destruct button seriously: press it and find out > In other words - where is there a description of this user interface!? there isn't one. yet > On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, you wrote: >> 2008/10/13 anthony winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > How do you do it? >> > What am I missing here? >> >> >> 1. Tap on the little triangle in the upper middle of the screen. A pulldown >> menu appears, the current app will the be the one at the bottom of this >> menu. >> >> 2. Tap on "REMOVE" in the lower left corner of that pulldown menu. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
scaredy cat repos on 2008
there are a few packages in the scaredy cat repos that i would like to run on my neo, but i'm scared of breaking something - are the 2007.2 packages compatible with 2008.9? the specific ones i'm after are zenity and it's dependencies. if not those, are any of the others? what are the limitations that decide whether a package is compatible or not? if it's not, are there any other sources for zenity that are pre-compiled? thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
evince related to instability in 2008.9
well, i tracked down the cause of the crashing problems i was getting with 2008. turns out it was related to evince i re-flashed the os on monday, and everything wasfine, until i installed evince with opkg; E crashed before it was installed, let alone running, and kept crashing every so often afterwards, usually when i was firing up messages or notes i uninstalled it, and it's been great for the last two days, so i thought i'd try again, to be thorough; sure enough, before opkg had finished the config, it threw a segfault any ideas why this is happening at install time? could it be due to the huge size of the .desktop file? it looks like it has every language known to man in there - something like 200kb iirc ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
display glitches after rotate
i'm using a couple of very simple (one line each) shell scripts in 2008.9 to manually change the screen orientation. problem is, after the rotation is done, there are lots of artifacts, covering about a quarter of the screen. i can get rid of them by tapping anywhere on the desktop, but since i have so many icons, this is getting difficult is there a command i can run from bash, and hence put in my shell scripts, that will force the screen to refresh and remove the glitches? i don't want to use the rotate C programme, i find it's too inconsistent relying on the accelerometers to do this thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: upgrade om2008.8 to 2008.9
2008/10/1 Erik Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > is there a way to update from 2008.8 to 2008.9 without flashing? Er, and > without loosing Data ;-) yeah, do: opkg update opkg upgrade in fact, if you've done that at any time since 2008/09/16, you'll have the upgrades already ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Any ebook readers/textfile viewers you could recommend for 2008.8?
2008/9/30 Edgar D' Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > I feel terribly lost without my old Palm PDA, which bit the dust some > time back - I used to have a mini-library on it :) Having exhausted > most of our little collection of hard-copy books re-reading them, I > tried out evince under 2008.8 on a couple of PDFs (that were A4 > papersize, AFAIK) and they were pretty not exactly pleasant to read. I > wonder if anyone knows of any more congenial ebook reader software > that would work on the FR - especially if it handled PDF, PDB, and TXT > files. I don't mind trying to convert PDB and PDF and other files to > text - if I could find an effective text file viewer for the distro. > Or if someone could point me to a way to reflow or otherwise convert > the PDF files for the smaller screen, so that I could read in a more > legible pointsize, that would be great. i too would be interested in this i was hoping plucker would be in the repos, then i could tap directly into stuff available on gutenberg.org, but i can't find it there, or anywhere on the net even a simple text editor/viewer would be great. and no, i'm not using vi, joe, emacs, or anything even vaguely similar ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: enlightenment crashes
2008/9/26 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > illume as well? hmm. ok definitely behind the curve - i'm building 36262's right - i'm using what opkg provides. not sure what else to do > currently. backtraces would be good! i dont use asu anymore. (fso stuff thouhg > i've now been building stripped down images minus frameworkd and zhone etc. > just > to keep build sizes/times and flash times down). > > > http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Debugging and that's way over my head. i don't have the skills or the time to re-compile enlightenment. i'm lost > > :) cunningly prepared i advance... :) i'm curious why i'm getting this, and very few others are? i've done nothing unusual to the install, it's the standard files, but only a few people are reporting this problem ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: enlightenment crashes
2008/9/26 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > perhaps doing what it suggests might help? :) note - chances are whatever you > have is likely behind the curve and possibly is segving as a result of > inconsistent packages (eg svnrev of illume != svnrev of efl/e-wm). most > likely. i flashed the new 2008.9 image a few days ago (i'd done an opkg upgrade from 2008.8, but had been having the same problems, so went from scratch and re-flashed), and have got the stock feeds - no extra repos or anything, and i've done an opkg update && upgrade every day. it's up to date now and still giving that message, so i doubt anything's out of sync > so first check illume and evas, e-wm, edje, ecore, eet, embro, efreet, edbus > are all the same svnrev. what svnrev is that? also installing -dbg (debug) ok, i did a check - all those packages (guess you mean embryo, not embro?) are svnr 35818, with varying suffixes - r1/r2/r3/r4/r6/r12 > packages for these and gdb and gdb attaching and getting a backtrace will mean > i can actually help you! :) right, installed the -dbg packages, and lots of dependencies too... i'm afraid the rest is beyond me - i read up a bit on gdb and backtraces, but got lost around the use of file. any hints would be great, or do you have a script ready-built that i could use? cheers for the help, appreciated ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: enlightenment crashes
2008/9/26 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> are you sure it's enlightenment and not qpe? zecke used the same "white box >> of >> death" code i have for e for catching qpe crashes and restarting it. >> carefully >> read the dialog. (i already had one person complain about e crashes when it >> actually was qpe. e also doesn't take a minute or so - e takes in the range >> of < >> 10 seconds (more like 5) to completely restart itself, which is why i wonder >> if >> you read the dialog. :) > > you're more than likely right, i found this bug a few moments ago > which looks similar to the problem i'm getting: > http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1767 > > i probably exaggerated - it does re-start pretty quickly (approx 10 > seconds), but occasionally the whole system seems to hang and not > accept any input after that. occasionally i need to reboot completely, > mostly when i'm trying to read a text message > > ah, it just did it: > "Enlightenment Error" > This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd > > This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in > Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach to > this process now to try debug it or you could exit, or just hit > restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was. > > Please compile everything woth -g flags in your CFLAGS > > (F1) Recover (F2) Exit > and i just go it to print a different error message "Enlightenment SIGABRT'd" otherwise identical to the previous one with the SEGV'd ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: enlightenment crashes
2008/9/26 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> is anyone else getting a lot of enlightenment crashes? my freerunner's >> virtually unusable because of them - it usually recovers after the >> crash, though not always, but it takes over a minute to sort itself >> out. they usually happen whenever i use a qtopia app - messages is the >> worst, but also contacts and dialler cause problems. i'm running the >> stable branch, with most recent updates > > are you sure it's enlightenment and not qpe? zecke used the same "white box of > death" code i have for e for catching qpe crashes and restarting it. carefully > read the dialog. (i already had one person complain about e crashes when it > actually was qpe. e also doesn't take a minute or so - e takes in the range > of < > 10 seconds (more like 5) to completely restart itself, which is why i wonder > if > you read the dialog. :) you're more than likely right, i found this bug a few moments ago which looks similar to the problem i'm getting: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1767 i probably exaggerated - it does re-start pretty quickly (approx 10 seconds), but occasionally the whole system seems to hang and not accept any input after that. occasionally i need to reboot completely, mostly when i'm trying to read a text message ah, it just did it: "Enlightenment Error" This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach to this process now to try debug it or you could exit, or just hit restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was. Please compile everything woth -g flags in your CFLAGS (F1) Recover (F2) Exit ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
enlightenment crashes
is anyone else getting a lot of enlightenment crashes? my freerunner's virtually unusable because of them - it usually recovers after the crash, though not always, but it takes over a minute to sort itself out. they usually happen whenever i use a qtopia app - messages is the worst, but also contacts and dialler cause problems. i'm running the stable branch, with most recent updates any help appreciated cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
no gsm since 2008.9 updates
previous to 16th sept, i had a working phone, but since installing the 2008.9 updates on the 16th, neither calling nor text has worked, and i get a 'No phone call is possible. Reasons GSM phone is not registered. No Netowrk.' error has anyone else been getting this? any recommendations on fixes/things to look for? thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
help please with autologin on debian/xfce
i installed debian after getting my freerunner, but want it to autologin under xfce as a least-privileged user on startup i installed xfce and followed all the instructions under http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Running_X_as_normal_user but it still logs in as root are those instructions completely correct? there's a couple of things there that don't look 100% correct/are written badly thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
updating uboot while the phone's running
in a bid to do away with dfu and usb networking altogether - it all seems a bit clunky to be honest - is it possible to update uboot while the phone is running? i see from this, it's possible to read te contents of that flash area, but can it be written to, or does it need to be in a certain boot mode? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_Freerunner#Flashing_the_boot_loader_to_the_NAND ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GNOME on Debian/Freerunner
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM, sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not very productive, but I have GNOME running on my Freerunner!! :-) . I >> should say it feels so good. >> >> Is it ok to attach images to mails to the mailing list? > > heh, great :) > > Upload your images to http://imagebin.org/ or some similar service and link > here > or even better, start a page on the wiki. if you could document anything you did different from a plain install (different icon sizes? any config you changed?) and include the pictures there, that would be cool. best to keep it all under one roof, if we can? i'd be interested particularly in how well it runs on something so low-powered cheers ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: opkg config files
2008/8/20 Simon Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can someone please explain to me, or point me to some documentation on > the format of the opkg config files. > > >From what i can make out > /etc/opkg/arch.conf > points to the different feeds, the details of which are stored in the > files all-feed.conf, armv4t-feed.conf ... > What is the number besides the feed name? > What is the format of the xxx-feed.conf files http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg may help ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: How to create offline maps?
2008/8/14 jollyr0ger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi I want to create a complete map of italy or of a single city. But I want > to download it entirely and add it to TangoGPS. Now I can download the map > from Openstreetmap (e.g. > http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/italy.osm.bz2) in .osm format. Now > how I can do to put it into the Tangogps maps? And how? complicated answer: .osm is a text format (you can open it in vi or whatever if you really want to), and tangogps uses image files the .osm files can be 'rendered' to images using various software (mapnik, osmarender, kosmos - see the osm wiki for more info), but it's not the easiest task in the world short answer: you will get better/faster results by downloading and caching the image tiles for your area, which tangogps can then use. there's a way to do this in tangogps (right-click on the map, select download) or using various other pieces of software, including a perl script in the osm svn repo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/SVN ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: usb network card
2008/8/2 arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> http://www.etccomputers.co.nz/shop/main/product.asp?pid=622 > > at least the usb plug won't match -- the fr has a mini usb port. > i was planning on using the relevant cable to connect it to the neo, as with any usb gadget that the neo would host. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host or am i missing something? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
usb network card
when i get my freerunner next week, i'd like to be able to do wired networking direct to my router, without needing a computer in between. is this possible, are the relevant modules included in the kernel? this is the sort of thing i was looking at: http://www.etccomputers.co.nz/shop/main/product.asp?pid=622 thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: REMOVE
2008/7/24 Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If you figured out how to subscribe to the list, you should have no > problem unsubscribing. > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support the problem is, no matter how many times people quote that wonderful link, it still doesn't work. have you tried clicking on it yourself? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
