Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 15:29 -0500, Warren Baird wrote: > Good luck. Let me know if you manage to fix it, 'cause I'm in a > similar situation - my daughter dropped my FR and after that the AUX > button doesn't work. I haven't gotten around to taking the case > apart to see if it's an easy fix yet. Fortunately I have Qi install > and I just manually rename boot partitions to determine which OS > boots. So far it's generally working, but if I manage to seriously > break a distro it could get interesting... > > Warren Qi defaults to boot from SD card. So if you install system on SD card it will boot from there. Regards ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
[cut] > About Reply-To header. Such configuration is less usable > (http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html). I have now 2 buttons interesting, I need to dig through this... > which do exactly the same. What worst one of them changes behaviour - > either it post to author (on some mailing lists and all other mails) or > to group (on other mailing lists). > > Additionally it violates RFC 2822 (point 3.6.2): "When the "Reply-To:" > field is present, it indicates the mailbox(es) to which the _author_ of > the message suggests that replies be sent." (my underline) and therefore > cannot by stated as 'correct' (for example - I don't intend to recive > private mails on list so my messages should not have it included). RFC > 2369 specifies correct headers (namly List-Post) and they should be used > instead. That is also interesting, need to check it. Regardless of this, I am trying to respond by ^L in Evolution, which is "Respond to mailing list" -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 11:47 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > I'm so sorry. Apparently Reply just reply to newsgroup instead of author > > if used on NNTP. > AFAIK this is correct behaviour. That depends on configuration of > mailing list. This one has correctly set up "Reply-to" header field, > which points to support@lists.openmoko.org . Thus by hitting reply > button, you answer to mailing list. Probably there are other ways, but > if you want to answer to priv, hit reply-to-all and delete all other > recipients. > But I'm using NNTP transport. Even in such case it should use support@lists.openmoko.org instead of gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.user. That was bug of mailing software and I've reported it. About Reply-To header. Such configuration is less usable (http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html). I have now 2 buttons which do exactly the same. What worst one of them changes behaviour - either it post to author (on some mailing lists and all other mails) or to group (on other mailing lists). Additionally it violates RFC 2822 (point 3.6.2): "When the "Reply-To:" field is present, it indicates the mailbox(es) to which the _author_ of the message suggests that replies be sent." (my underline) and therefore cannot by stated as 'correct' (for example - I don't intend to recive private mails on list so my messages should not have it included). RFC 2369 specifies correct headers (namly List-Post) and they should be used instead. Regards ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
[cut] > I'm so sorry. Apparently Reply just reply to newsgroup instead of author > if used on NNTP. AFAIK this is correct behaviour. That depends on configuration of mailing list. This one has correctly set up "Reply-to" header field, which points to support@lists.openmoko.org . Thus by hitting reply button, you answer to mailing list. Probably there are other ways, but if you want to answer to priv, hit reply-to-all and delete all other recipients. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 06:29 +, Maciej Piechotka wrote: > Some time ago I broke my AUX button so I cannot access NAND/NOR > bootloader. What worst some time after I broke distro during update and > I cannot access neither by ssh nor by X11 (keyboard is not displayed). > > I will have an access to debug board in two weeks or I may ask someone > but is it possible to somehow fix it (with or without debug board)? > > Regards Unfortunatly the button is broken. I.e. the pice of equipment which is between the button on case and the motherboard is not connected to motherboard. Is it possible to force Qi to boot from SD using debug board? Is it possible to fix the AUX button (or try to fix without damaging motherboard)? Regards ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Wednesday 23 December 2009, Maciej Piechotka wrote: > On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 14:44 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Can you dismantle the case enough to access the switch body and press it > > possibly with a screwdriver top? It may only be the platic button thats > > broken, not the switch. > > > > BillK > > Does it have to be any guitar pick (I haven't recive any): > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973 It can be anything that is stiff enough but won't damage the case plastic. I usually use my finger nails or an old club membership card that's similar to a credit card but slightly thinner. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 16:37 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > > PS. Sorry for non-english mail. It suppose to go to priv. I tried to > > cancel it but I'm not sure how succesful I was. > Unsuccesfull :) I think that if mail goes to ML it cannot be canceled. > I'm so sorry. Apparently Reply just reply to newsgroup instead of author if used on NNTP. Sory for trouble for all. Regards ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
> PS. Sorry for non-english mail. It suppose to go to priv. I tried to > cancel it but I'm not sure how succesful I was. Unsuccesfull :) I think that if mail goes to ML it cannot be canceled. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 14:44 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > Can you dismantle the case enough to access the switch body and press it > possibly with a screwdriver top? It may only be the platic button thats > broken, not the switch. > > BillK Does it have to be any guitar pick (I haven't recive any): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973 Regards PS. Sorry for non-english mail. It suppose to go to priv. I tried to cancel it but I'm not sure how succesful I was. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 20:05 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 06:29 +, Maciej Piechotka pisze: > > Some time ago I broke my AUX button so I cannot access NAND/NOR > Hi Maciej, > If you are somewhere around Warszawa in Poland I think I can help you > with soldering tasks. Even if we can't find exactly the same > micro-switch, we can solder similar. This could be done probably in > January. Are you interested? > Przepraszam że nie odpowiadałem. Niestety jestem w Polsce na krótko i w Styczniu już mnie nie bedzie. Pozdrawiam ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
Good luck. Let me know if you manage to fix it, 'cause I'm in a similar situation - my daughter dropped my FR and after that the AUX button doesn't work. I haven't gotten around to taking the case apart to see if it's an easy fix yet. Fortunately I have Qi install and I just manually rename boot partitions to determine which OS boots. So far it's generally working, but if I manage to seriously break a distro it could get interesting... Warren On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Maciej Piechotka wrote: > Some time ago I broke my AUX button so I cannot access NAND/NOR > bootloader. What worst some time after I broke distro during update and > I cannot access neither by ssh nor by X11 (keyboard is not displayed). > > I will have an access to debug board in two weeks or I may ask someone > but is it possible to somehow fix it (with or without debug board)? > > Regards > > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 06:29 +, Maciej Piechotka pisze: > Some time ago I broke my AUX button so I cannot access NAND/NOR Hi Maciej, If you are somewhere around Warszawa in Poland I think I can help you with soldering tasks. Even if we can't find exactly the same micro-switch, we can solder similar. This could be done probably in January. Are you interested? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Problems with broken distro and AUX
Can you dismantle the case enough to access the switch body and press it possibly with a screwdriver top? It may only be the platic button thats broken, not the switch. BillK On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 06:29 +, Maciej Piechotka wrote: > Some time ago I broke my AUX button so I cannot access NAND/NOR > bootloader. What worst some time after I broke distro during update and > I cannot access neither by ssh nor by X11 (keyboard is not displayed). > > I will have an access to debug board in two weeks or I may ask someone > but is it possible to somehow fix it (with or without debug board)? > > Regards > > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Problems with broken distro and AUX
Some time ago I broke my AUX button so I cannot access NAND/NOR bootloader. What worst some time after I broke distro during update and I cannot access neither by ssh nor by X11 (keyboard is not displayed). I will have an access to debug board in two weeks or I may ask someone but is it possible to somehow fix it (with or without debug board)? Regards ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Al Johnson > It's been in the kernel for a long while now. It is as effective as the > hardware fix, possibly more so. >> 2. Is the hardware fix documented >> for DIY? > > I think so, but it is completely unnecessary with a recent kernel. Al, Thanks alot. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Seth Rothenberg wrote: > Another follow-on question. > It appears that the phone I am using now > does not have the capacitor fix. > > I have 2 questions: > 1. is the software patch available for > various distros, eg, SHR? It's been in the kernel for a long while now. It is as effective as the hardware fix, possibly more so. With a favourable satellite constellation I get ~40s TTFF from cold, even with SD activity. Any recent distro should have it. With FSO/SHR you might see problems related to loading almanac, ephemeris and time when powering up the GPS. The docs suggest that even with incorrect or outdated data the TTFF should be no worse than an unaided start, but in practise it seems that it can cause significant delays. Some versions of ogpsd have had significant problems in this respect. Make sure your time and timezone are set correctly as this can slow things down too. > 2. Is the hardware fix documented > for DIY? I think so, but it is completely unnecessary with a recent kernel. > The phone I have that was able to get a fix... > it seems to have a microscopic solder joint > between the 3rd and 4th pins from the bottom > on the SD slot. (there could be a cap in there :-) > > The phone I am trying to work with... > does not have this solder work. > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Another follow-on question. It appears that the phone I am using now does not have the capacitor fix. I have 2 questions: 1. is the software patch available for various distros, eg, SHR? 2. Is the hardware fix documented for DIY? The phone I have that was able to get a fix... it seems to have a microscopic solder joint between the 3rd and 4th pins from the bottom on the SD slot. (there could be a cap in there :-) The phone I am trying to work with... does not have this solder work. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Thanks. I actually hope to get wifi working, since wifi here is more likely to be evidence that wifi will work in Israel, while gprs may be harder. I also didn't see how to turn on the GPS antenna in SHR. I recall seeing it on Settings screen in an earlier distro. I downloaded all the maps for my neighborhood, but tangogps won't come out of this mode where I scroll to the desired place. Since it looks like I'll be on SHR, I subscribed to that specific list. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
2009/2/3 Seth Rothenberg > Thanks. With these entries, I still have OM not always > setting up the usb interface right, but now that I know > how to use terminal with kbd, I can just > ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 I remember a ppp start script with a 'ifdown usb0' as first action - or was it wlan? Maybe something similar is interfering on your system. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Joachim Ott wrote: > > By default, your desktop PC has 192.168.0.200 and the FR has 192.168.0.202. > Try this entry in /etc/network/interfaces on the FR: > ...etc... > > and on your desktop PC in the very same file: > Thanks. With these entries, I still have OM not always setting up the usb interface right, but now that I know how to use terminal with kbd, I can just ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
2009/2/3 Seth Rothenberg > Thanks for the great replies... > I flashed my FR to SHR today. > I had a few instances of it freezing during boot. > Then it seemed to be up, but I had 2 issues: > > 1. In Terminal, I get no keyboard. > (I guess that's my punishment for complaining > about not getting a full 101 keys by default. :-) When you're in the terminal, tap on the top shelf, then above the big X, tap on the QWERTY > 2. My usb setup script failed. > ifconfig returns this and more, but ping gets nothing. > > usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 8e:a3:0c:ca:6d:a8 > inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::8ca3:cff:feca:6da8/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > Script is: > rot...@sata1:/opt/download/OpenMoko$ cat usbsetup > sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 > sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 > sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 > sudo ifconfig usb0 up > ifconfig usb0 > ping -c 2 mok > rot...@sata1:/opt/download/OpenMoko$ By default, your desktop PC has 192.168.0.200 and the FR has 192.168.0.202. Try this entry in /etc/network/interfaces on the FR: auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 # some folks have the next line here enabled # echo "nameserver 192.168.0.200" >/etc/resolv.conf # still others may say: bullshit honey, we need a real nameserver in here and on your desktop PC in the very same file: allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Thanks for the great replies... I flashed my FR to SHR today. I had a few instances of it freezing during boot. Then it seemed to be up, but I had 2 issues: 1. In Terminal, I get no keyboard. (I guess that's my punishment for complaining about not getting a full 101 keys by default. :-) 2. My usb setup script failed. ifconfig returns this and more, but ping gets nothing. usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 8e:a3:0c:ca:6d:a8 inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::8ca3:cff:feca:6da8/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Script is: rot...@sata1:/opt/download/OpenMoko$ cat usbsetup sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 sudo ifconfig usb0 up ifconfig usb0 ping -c 2 mok rot...@sata1:/opt/download/OpenMoko$ Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 01:39:21 -0500, Seth Rothenberg wrote: > Dear friends, > I'll be travelling and thought I would bring along FR. > I'm considering which distro to bring. > > I hope to have > *phone - even if it's just to know when I > have to find a land line to call home. > I can't access the SIM until I get there. > > *notepad - just something to reduce lost paper > *wifi - possible? > *vpnc - google seems to say, I need debian. > That's OK with me if it has the phone apps. > > gps (I can dream, can't I?) > > I have FDOM back in October, and it worked. > Doesn't seem to work for me now. > (i.e., it crashes). > > Thanks for humoring me... > Seth I'd second the endorsement of SHR-unstable. TangoGPS works great (as long as your clock is correctly set, including timezone) and phone functions work acceptably well. Wifi seems broken in the most recent (Jan29 IIRC) images, hoping that is resolved again soon. "notepad" - there're a handful of simple text editors around, I can't suggest one offhand. I've not yet managed to get navit working with SHR-unstable though, so GPS location and mapping works but maybe not directions. Openvpn works fine, but doesn't cover the same scenarios as vpnc... I've not seen vpnc for the FR yet. So I cross-compiled it a few minutes ago (from svn) and it seems to run on my FR, but I've nothing handy to test it against. If someone wants to do so, I stuffed the config and binaries in a tarball at http://newkirk.us/om/vpnc.tar.gz - it depends on libgcrypt, shouldn't need anything else. The only alterations required were commenting out "CC=gcc" and "./makeman.pl" in the makefile (no man on FR anyway) and "opkg-target install libgcrypt libgcrypt-dev". j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Thanks for the helpful answers already. Today, I backed up both phones (one has a cracked touch panel)...so I can fool around without having to start from scratch to go back. I have experience with cold-metal restores of Solaris. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
2009/2/1 Seth Rothenberg > Dear friends, > I'll be travelling and thought I would bring along FR. > I'm considering which distro to bring. All of the below work with SHR-testing (the wifi gets stuck sometimes) > I hope to have > *phone - even if it's just to know when I > have to find a land line to call home. > I can't access the SIM until I get there. > > *notepad - just something to reduce lost paper I use vi in a terminal > *wifi - possible? > *vpnc - google seems to say, I need debian. I used openvpn, it worked even over a gprs-connection > > That's OK with me if it has the phone apps. > > gps (I can dream, can't I?) Works fine with tangogps. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
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On Sunday 01 February 2009, Seth Rothenberg wrote: > Dear friends, > I'll be travelling and thought I would bring along FR. > I'm considering which distro to bring. I have most of this working with FSO Milestone 4.1 plus packages from http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/fso-testing/ipk/ You can safely add this as a repository for FSO. Debian will probably do nicely as well, but I haven't tried it. > I hope to have > *phone - even if it's just to know when I > have to find a land line to call home. > I can't access the SIM until I get there. Make sure you update the gsm firmware to moko10 for widest SIM compatibility if you haven't done so already. > *notepad - just something to reduce lost paper I use a combination of the sketchbook app from FSO and abiword from the repos mentioned above. > *wifi - possible? I do this manually using the same manual wpa-supplicant configuration I originally used under 2007.2. It should still be in the wiki. > *vpnc - google seems to say, I need debian. I don't have a package for this. If nobody else has built it then debian may be your only answer. > That's OK with me if it has the phone apps. > > gps (I can dream, can't I?) Dream? That's probably the easy bit! Zhone can give you basic location. Tangogps works nicely with tiled maps, and navit does quite well with vector maps. Tango looks prettier, but the maps take up much more space. Just make sure you get a recent navit package from: http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ > I have FDOM back in October, and it worked. > Doesn't seem to work for me now. > (i.e., it crashes). > > Thanks for humoring me... > Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Distro?
Dear friends, I'll be travelling and thought I would bring along FR. I'm considering which distro to bring. I hope to have *phone - even if it's just to know when I have to find a land line to call home. I can't access the SIM until I get there. *notepad - just something to reduce lost paper *wifi - possible? *vpnc - google seems to say, I need debian. That's OK with me if it has the phone apps. gps (I can dream, can't I?) I have FDOM back in October, and it worked. Doesn't seem to work for me now. (i.e., it crashes). Thanks for humoring me... Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro Reviews
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Paul wrote: My First goal is to start with a stable phone distro. One where I can make/receive calls, send and receive text messages. The Qtopia build seems to be OK, however, there is that echo issue. Qtopia does seem to be removed from a lot of the feature developments for the FreeRunner. I have tried a couple of the distros out there and the Qtopia one seems to be the most stable. i'm happy with 2008.09 stable, though i have had to make some changes (my own state files, gsm0710muxd, etc.). i use it as a day-to-day phone and it works acceptably: resume fails about once every other day, requiring battery removal, but otherwise receiving calls is fine, making calls is fine, the bouncing calypso problem has a workaround, echo is under control and SMS has never been a problem. i have a GTA02v6. a summary of what i had to do can be found at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html , if you're curious. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro Reviews
> About Debian. I have the 512 meg card, could I get started on debian with > that until my new sd card comes it? gizmo recently wrote that with the new package layout 319mb are installed (add some mb for the package cache during installation), so you should be well off. > Also, is there an echo with debian? afair fso (which is required with debian to use the fr) has the at commands included. i very seldom make and get calls, so no definitive statement. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
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About Debian. I have the 512 meg card, could I get started on debian with that until my new sd card comes it? Also, is there an echo with debian? -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro Reviews
Paul-10 wrote: > > I finally received my Freerunner and it's been exciting. I am trying to > use > the Freerunner as my primary phone. > I don't mean to be snarky, but good luck with that I've just given up on mine as a main phone after a couple of months of struggling. Must admit I didn't try Qtopia though. My advice - try Qtopia, install a second distro on the SD card to evaluate. Debian, 2008.09 and FDOM are all happy to boot from SD. Debian does need something like 400MB though. For me, Om2008.09 and FDOM had the echo really badly (it went away one update and then came back next time) regardless of what I did with handset.state Debian was fun to play with but after a couple of days it inexplicably decided to stop registering with my network and thus became useless. Android looks promising but is going to need work to get it more friendly with gta hardware. The sound quality on it is great so far, and the responsiveness of the UI is fantastic compared to any of the other distros I tried. Just a shame there's no way to pick up the call when it rings. Dunno about SHR/FSO, never got as far as to try. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Distro-Reviews-tp1470343p1470482.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Distro Reviews
I finally received my Freerunner and it's been exciting. I am trying to use the Freerunner as my primary phone. My First goal is to start with a stable phone distro. One where I can make/receive calls, send and receive text messages. The Qtopia build seems to be OK, however, there is that echo issue. Qtopia does seem to be removed from a lot of the feature developments for the FreeRunner. I have tried a couple of the distros out there and the Qtopia one seems to be the most stable. I was wondering, which distros have the Echo bug resolved? Also, is the debian distro stable? I am a debian/kubuntu user so I definitely would like to use debian provided it can provide a stable phone for me. I need to buy a new sd card from the sound of it though. Thanks. -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > why does distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk attempt to overwrite all > feeds' url with > http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ > ? > this will ultimately kill any further update until replaced with > meaningful url! > Hi. This time the problem seems that there's a new set of files in distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0.01_om-gta02.ipk which try and change the feeds config : Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0.01_om-gta02.ipk Multiple packages (distro-feed-configs and distro-feed-configs) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (distro-feed-configs and distro-feed-configs) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Installing distro-feed-configs (1.0-r0.01) to root... Configuration file '/etc/opkg/all-feed.conf' ==> File on system created by you or by a script. ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions (if diff is installed) The default action is to keep your current version. *** all-feed.conf (Y/I/N/O/D) [default=N] ?d --- /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf-opkg.backup Sat Aug 2 01:05:27 2008 +++ /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf Thu Aug 7 02:11:33 2008 @@ -1 +1 @@ -src/gz daily-all http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all +src/gz om-dev-all http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all The only result I can see, if installing the new ones is that now there's two sets of feeds saved in /var/lib/opkg/ : the old ones : daily-alldaily-armv4t daily-neo1973daily-om-gta02 and the new ones : om-dev-all om-dev-armv4tom-dev-om-gta02 Is this related to 2008.08 image release ? Any comments ? Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
> Now, what's the difference between "daily" and "remote" here > (considering the hostname is wrong, that's the other change). until someone suggest better i am going to believe "remote" is just another generic placeholder. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct >> contents of the files i've overwritten? >> > > Here's a (partial) log of the session here, which exhibits the > differences : > SNIP And there's also a new file /etc/opkg/fic-gta02-feed.conf that may need to be removed / changed ? although I don't see any fic-gta02 dir in the archive at http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/ ... My 2 more cents, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
atweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Ovverwrite it manually with the new Version: > "opkg install > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk"; > This installs direct the file via http without searching in the > Paket-Database. I don't get the point here... isn't it the same version as the one in the subject of that thread ? I would expect it not to repair the URLS in the opkg sources, then ? > > > Dale Maggee schrieb: >> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the >> correct contents of the files i've overwritten? >> >> didn't even notice the 'D' option, to be honest. I'll be using it next time! >> >> Thanks. >> Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct > contents of the files i've overwritten? > Here's a (partial) log of the session here, which exhibits the differences : Installing distro-feed-configs (1.0-r0) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk Configuration file '/etc/opkg/all-feed.conf' --- /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf-opkg.backup Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf Tue Aug 5 05:02:09 2008 @@ -1 +1 @@ -src/gz daily-all http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all +src/gz remote-all http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all Configuration file '/etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf' --- /etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf-opkg.backup Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf Tue Aug 5 05:02:09 2008 @@ -1 +1 @@ -src/gz daily-armv4t http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t +src/gz remote-armv4t http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t Configuration file '/etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf' --- /etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf-opkg.backup Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf Tue Aug 5 05:02:09 2008 @@ -1 +1 @@ -src/gz daily-neo1973 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/neo1973 +src/gz remote-neo1973 http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973 Configuration file '/etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.conf' --- /etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.conf-opkg.backupThu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.confTue Aug 5 05:02:09 2008 @@ -1 +1 @@ -src/gz daily-om-gta02 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02 +src/gz remote-om-gta02 http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02 Hope this helps. Now, what's the difference between "daily" and "remote" here (considering the hostname is wrong, that's the other change). And what's the point of having something like "neo1973" in addition to "om-gta02" when I'm running a FR ? Thanks in advance, Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
What settings did you use? I cant find a copy anywhere to see what they should be :( BillK On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:46 -0500, Feydreva wrote: > yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again > after the upgrade... > > http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ was also the adresse when you > image with FSO > > I do not know from where this adress comes from... > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:55 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > why does distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk attempt to > overwrite all > feeds' url with > http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ > ? > this will ultimately kill any further update until replaced > with > meaningful url! > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
Thanks, but /etc/opkg/*.conf still point to my-distribution.org, even though i overwrote the files...? has this not been fixed yet? atweb wrote: > Hi, > > Ovverwrite it manually with the new Version: > "opkg install > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk"; > > > This installs direct the file via http without searching in the > Paket-Database. > > > cu > Markus > > > > Dale Maggee schrieb: >> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the >> correct contents of the files i've overwritten? >> >> didn't even notice the 'D' option, to be honest. I'll be using it >> next time! >> >> Thanks. >> >> -Dale >> >> arne anka wrote: >> >>>> yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file >>>> again after >>>> the upgrade... >>>> >>> i was sure someone would run into this -- opkg asks you if you would >>> like to replace those files with then package maintainer's ones. >>> since i use debian i am familiar with this and almost automatically >>> hit D for diff'ing the old and the new file before deciding. >>> thus i could avoid overwriting. >>> >>> >>>> I do not know from where this adress comes from... >>>> >>> it's obviously the result of some testing with the package building >>> process that should never have made it into the feeds ... >>> >>> ___ >>> support mailing list >>> support@lists.openmoko.org >>> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> support mailing list >> support@lists.openmoko.org >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support >> > > > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
Hi, Ovverwrite it manually with the new Version: "opkg install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk"; This installs direct the file via http without searching in the Paket-Database. cu Markus Dale Maggee schrieb: agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct contents of the files i've overwritten? didn't even notice the 'D' option, to be honest. I'll be using it next time! Thanks. -Dale arne anka wrote: yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again after the upgrade... i was sure someone would run into this -- opkg asks you if you would like to replace those files with then package maintainer's ones. since i use debian i am familiar with this and almost automatically hit D for diff'ing the old and the new file before deciding. thus i could avoid overwriting. I do not know from where this adress comes from... it's obviously the result of some testing with the package building process that should never have made it into the feeds ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct contents of the files i've overwritten? didn't even notice the 'D' option, to be honest. I'll be using it next time! Thanks. -Dale arne anka wrote: >> yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again >> after >> the upgrade... >> > > i was sure someone would run into this -- opkg asks you if you would like > to replace those files with then package maintainer's ones. > since i use debian i am familiar with this and almost automatically hit D > for diff'ing the old and the new file before deciding. > thus i could avoid overwriting. > > >> I do not know from where this adress comes from... >> > > it's obviously the result of some testing with the package building > process that should never have made it into the feeds ... > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
> yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again > after > the upgrade... i was sure someone would run into this -- opkg asks you if you would like to replace those files with then package maintainer's ones. since i use debian i am familiar with this and almost automatically hit D for diff'ing the old and the new file before deciding. thus i could avoid overwriting. > I do not know from where this adress comes from... it's obviously the result of some testing with the package building process that should never have made it into the feeds ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again after the upgrade... http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ was also the adresse when you image with FSO I do not know from where this adress comes from... On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:55 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why does distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk attempt to overwrite all > feeds' url with > http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ > ? > this will ultimately kill any further update until replaced with > meaningful url! > > ___ > support mailing list > support@lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support > ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
why does distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk attempt to overwrite all feeds' url with http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ ? this will ultimately kill any further update until replaced with meaningful url! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
