Re: [pfSense Support] monitoring bandwidth usage of individual lan addresses

2008-06-16 Thread David Rees
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Daniel Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The bandwithd package does just that.

But he's running on a ALIX board, isn't he most likely using the
embedded version which does not support packages?

-Dave

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Re: [pfSense Support] monitoring bandwidth usage of individual lan addresses

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:07 AM, David Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Daniel Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The bandwithd package does just that.

 But he's running on a ALIX board, isn't he most likely using the
 embedded version which does not support packages?


Ah, missed that. No way currently to run packages on embedded, it's
not capable of saving data for things of this nature because of the
limits of CF. Some people do full installs on CF and run that way,
it's not recommended because theoretically it'll kill your CF. In
practice, I know of a number of people running that way and have yet
to hear from one who killed a CF card.

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Re: [pfSense Support] monitoring bandwidth usage of individual lan addresses MORE

2008-06-16 Thread Patrick M. Murray, M.F.A.
yeah, i have a 512mb CF card in there, and yeah it only stores log  
info.. When I had to do a reformat not too long ago, I tried  
installing onto a 4GB CF card instead, but since you have to run the  
installer for embedded in DOS, it hit the cylinder limit and screwed  
up in the formatting process.. My ALIX board has a 44 pin socket that  
would take a laptop HD, but I haven't quite figured out physically why  
they built it so screwed up. In order to connect a drive directly, I'd  
have to remove my case, and stick the HD in sticking straight up in  
the air. There is no room for it at all in the casing, even if I  
rigged a ribbon cable in there. However I have been building a box  
myself, that is basically done, that uses an old, but really small MB  
w/ P3 - And I have 5 NICS in there right now, a slim cdr, a floppy,  
and that 4GB CF card as the HD. I haven't tried it out yet, as I  
bought the ALIX board, and kinda lost interest, or rather haven't had  
a need for it until now I suppose.. I also just acquired a Cisco 7507  
router, and I'm kinda trying to figure out how to reconfig or config  
my network properly. I should draw out a network diagram and post it  
up here, as I know no one who knows one thing about what I'm  
doing. :)  So I will post that asap, once I draw it all out... But I  
had a few other questions I might need answered before the config can  
be completed...


I have an Apple Airport Extreme - the a/b/g/n one - and it's a piece  
of crap. :)  I mean I got it a while ago, and I primarily do use Macs  
so it made sense. But the range on the thing sucks, and whenever I'm  
simply streaming a movie from a NAS device, the thing goes nuts -  
doesn't play full speed, and the port on the Cisco router it's  
connected to indicates problems with the flashing green-to-orange.. I  
can be on the other side of the office, and only have a 30% signal  
running N only on 5ghz. I have it maxed out - it's just crap. But my  
ALIX board has 2 miniPCI slots on it that I have yet to mess with. I  
need something super powerful in regards to range, speed, and  
multicast. And I know you can't throw 2 wireless cards in there, so  
what can the other slot be used for? And what miniPCI wireless card  
would you recommend that I could potentially (as an example) stream a  
movie a 1/2 mile away? I have access to my roof, and my building is  
taller than most in this general area, but I live/work in the South  
Bronx. :)  There are so many wireless networks it's insane. I saw  
these one cards, I can't recall the brand at the moment, but they are  
operating on the old 900mhz freq. and are supposed to get crazy range,  
even through walls, which is good, as my building is all brick,  
exposed brick, and I heard this eats wireless signals. What kind of  
setup do you suggest?


Basically I have 12 enterprise class servers, about 5 workstations, 3  
cisco 2924XL-E switches, the ALIX board, the pfSense box in the works,  
the Apple Wireless, 2 Cisco 2600 series routers that I have no idea  
what to do with, 5 static IPs but I'm only using one right now, and  
the Cisco 7507 router fully loaded to the hilt - and running primarily  
OSX Server, Fedora Core, and Solaris. I got some issues... :) I need  
to format a windows server - but I dread windows server software...  
That Cisco router I bought an extra processor board for - so once I  
get it running, it should be the king. But the 2 sides of it function  
independently. Oh yeah, and I'm running a combo of copper and fiber.  
lol. Any ideas, suggestions, comments, would be greatly appreciated.  
Thanks again.


-patrick


Patrick M. Murray, M.F.A.
http://www.patrickmurray.net




On 16 Jun 2008, at 03:11-0400, Chris Buechler wrote:


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:07 AM, David Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Daniel Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

The bandwithd package does just that.


But he's running on a ALIX board, isn't he most likely using the
embedded version which does not support packages?



Ah, missed that. No way currently to run packages on embedded, it's
not capable of saving data for things of this nature because of the
limits of CF. Some people do full installs on CF and run that way,
it's not recommended because theoretically it'll kill your CF. In
practice, I know of a number of people running that way and have yet
to hear from one who killed a CF card.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Two IPs on Lan interface

2008-06-16 Thread Victor Padro
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Matias Surdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it possible to add another IP to the LAN interface?

 How must it be done?

 Thanks.



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Only if your NIC is VLAN compatible, but you will have to use a managed
switch also.


[pfSense Support] two gateways on the samen network

2008-06-16 Thread Matias Surdi
Suppose I've an OPT interface connected to a network where I've two 
other gateways, how can I do policy routing to thesese routers? As far 
as I can see, pfSense just allows one gateway per interface.Am I wrong?


Thanks a lot.


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Re: [pfSense Support] two gateways on the samen network

2008-06-16 Thread Gary Buckmaster

Matias Surdi wrote:
Suppose I've an OPT interface connected to a network where I've two 
other gateways, how can I do policy routing to thesese routers? As far 
as I can see, pfSense just allows one gateway per interface.Am I wrong?


Thanks a lot.


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No, you're correct, one gateway per-interface is what it currently 
supports. 


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[pfSense Support] Re: two gateways on the samen network

2008-06-16 Thread Matias Surdi

Gary Buckmaster escribió:

Matias Surdi wrote:
Suppose I've an OPT interface connected to a network where I've two 
other gateways, how can I do policy routing to thesese routers? As far 
as I can see, pfSense just allows one gateway per interface.Am I wrong?


Thanks a lot.


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No, you're correct, one gateway per-interface is what it currently 
supports.


but. I've just found System-Static Routes. that seems to do 
 the job for me :-)


Thanks.



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Re: [pfSense Support] Re: two gateways on the samen network

2008-06-16 Thread Gary Buckmaster

Matias Surdi wrote:


but. I've just found System-Static Routes. that seems to 
do  the job for me :-)


Thanks.


Yep, that's true.  If you only need static routes, then that'll work 
just fine.  That wasn't immediately clear from your initial email. 


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Re: [pfSense Support] Two IPs on Lan interface

2008-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will this be a feature in 1.3??  I was actually quite shocked the first 
time i found out m0n0wall or PFSense didn't support secondary IP 
Address's. I decided to just use another NIC card for a second LAN 
subnet and plug both interfaces into the same switch. This will actually 
scale better, because now we have the option of creating totally 
separate physical network.


Thanks for another work around and script!!

Adam

Bryan Derman wrote:

I've add another IP to the LAN interface by creating an alias on the LAN
interface.  Via the shell (either use Diagnostics - Command or login via
SSH) issue the applicable ifconfig command:

e.g., to create an IP alias of 172.16.1.1 for the LAN where the LAN is on
the interface xy0:
ifconfig xy0 alias 172.16.1.1/24

e.g., to remove an IP alias of 172.16.1.1 from the LAN where the LAN is
on the interface xy0:
ifconfig xy0 remove 172.16.1.1

Such a setting will disappear upon reboot, but if you create a script and
place it in the directory
/usr/local/etc/rc.d
it'll get executed at the end of the startup:

e.g., create a shell script named
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/addLANalias.sh
that contains
---
#!/bin/sh

if test $1 = start
then
   /bin/echo -n 'Adding LAN alias to sk0 ... '
   /sbin/ifconfig sk0 alias 172.16.1.1/24
   echo 'done'
fi
---
then issue the commands:
/bin/chmod 755 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/addLANalias.sh
/usr/sbin/chown root:wheel /usr/local/etc/rc.d/addLANalias.sh

/etc/rc.d/* files get executed by /etc/rc via /etc/rc.start_packages at
bootup.

Hope that helps.


FYI, on Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:36:40 -0800 I wrote to this list and asked
---
After searching ..., I've not found anything about the best/correct
strategy to use to support multiple LAN subnets on a single LAN port.

The Questions
=
- is using address aliases the correct/optimal/best way to create the WAN
aliases?

- if using address aliases is *not* the best way, what is?
...
---
It appeared that my WAN instead of LAN typo in the Questions
section was understood.

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:36:28 -0500 Chris Buechler posted the response
---
I have a document that describes in detail the steps required to
accomplish this, though not accessible right now.  You're partially
right, partially wrong.  I'll put it online somewhere later.
---

I never received nor found that document but I've used the alias strategy
ever since and not encountered any issues other than the fact that the
Status - Interfaces web page will report the interface alias instead of
the one originally configured.

I only mention this because there may be a better way to do this (my
level of expertise in this area is only enough to make me _real_
dangerous).

Specifically, I don't mean to be critical of Chris as I know how easy it
is to miss an email, etc. and the web site (and documentation stuff) was
also in much transition at that point in time.  There's ample evidence of
Chris' excellent responses, including to other questions of mine, and I
very much appreciate an respect his key involvement and the results.  In
fact, there's an all-too-small percentage of commercial software
products, let alone open-source projects, that have the overall quality
that I've seen with pfSense, its support and even it's overall focus and
business.

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Previous message from Matias Surdi on 2008-06-16 at 12:35 PM +0200
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|Is it possible to add another IP to the LAN interface?
|
|How must it be done?
|
|Thanks.

  


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Re: [pfSense Support] Re: two gateways on the samen network

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Buechler

Matias Surdi wrote:


but. I've just found System-Static Routes. that seems to 
do  the job for me :-)


If all you need is static routes that's fine. If you need to policy 
route to multiple gateways on the same interface, that's not possible in 
1.2 but it is in 1.3 already.



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Re: [pfSense Support] Two IPs on Lan interface

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Bryan Derman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I never received nor found that document but I've used the alias strategy
 ever since and not encountered any issues other than the fact that the
 Status - Interfaces web page will report the interface alias instead of
 the one originally configured.


Sorry about that, got dropped at some point (I get so much email I
can't possibly reply to it all, this fell through at some point).
Document I spoke of is now available here:
http://doc.pfsense.org/multiple-subnets-one-interface-pfsense.pdf

I already wrote the code to support this in the GUI for 1.3. It needs
some finishing touches, but it works already (aside from removing IPs
when they're deleted).

The reason it's not supported to date is it shouldn't be done this
way, two IP subnets on the same broadcast domain is considered poor
network design. Cisco does not support secondary addresses on PIX/ASA,
for one example. But it is more commonly needed in routers for a
variety of reasons, and pfSense is getting used more and more as a
router, so it was something we saw the need to implement.

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