[pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Ryan L. Rodrigue
First.  Thanks for making the best rouster software in the world.
 
Second.   I'v searched, but i cant quite figure it out.  I would like to
use captive portal.  What I want is to have certain users based on
windows username and passwords automatically autenticate without seeing
the captive portal screen.  If the user is unknow, then have them
redirected to supply alternate credentials.  I was hoping maybe I could
do this with a radius server.  Any help or sugestions are greatly
appreciated.  I hope I am clean in what I am asking for.  I am not very
familiar with radius and captive portal.  Thank you.
 


Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Chris Buechler
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Ryan L. Rodrigue
radiote...@aaremail.com wrote:
 First.  Thanks for making the best rouster software in the world.

 Second.   I'v searched, but i cant quite figure it out.  I would like to use
 captive portal.  What I want is to have certain users based on windows
 username and passwords automatically autenticate without seeing the captive
 portal screen.  If the user is unknow, then have them redirected to supply
 alternate credentials.  I was hoping maybe I could do this with a radius
 server.  Any help or sugestions are greatly appreciated.  I hope I am clean
 in what I am asking for.  I am not very familiar with radius and captive
 portal.  Thank you.


Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with
Windows credentials, no. You can authenticate them on the CP screen
with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a Windows Server
DC (if you're using AD).

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RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Ryan


Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with Windows
credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a
Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).


I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help Chris.  Do you
know of anything that might do this? 


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RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Dimitri Rodis
Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server (ISA Server), and you
need to have AD.

I've used it, but only in this particular case. I do not know of anything in
the open source world that works reliably specifically the way you want it
to. (That is not to say that nothing exists, I just may not know about it).
With respect to ISA, there is a client installation (aka Firewall Client)
that is required to make the authentication transparent--without it, it
would work just like pfSense would-- with RADIUS against AD, and the user
would have to enter credentials manually.

Dimitri Rodis
Integrita Systems LLC 
http://www.integritasystems.com


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From: Ryan [mailto:radiote...@aaremail.com] 
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windows login



Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with Windows
credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a
Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).


I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help Chris.  Do you
know of anything that might do this? 


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RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Ryan
 



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-Original Message-
From: Dimitri Rodis [mailto:dimit...@integritasystems.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:47 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on
windows login

Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server (ISA Server), and you
need to have AD.

I've used it, but only in this particular case. I do not know of anything in
the open source world that works reliably specifically the way you want it
to. (That is not to say that nothing exists, I just may not know about it).
With respect to ISA, there is a client installation (aka Firewall Client)
that is required to make the authentication transparent--without it, it
would work just like pfSense would-- with RADIUS against AD, and the user
would have to enter credentials manually.

Dimitri Rodis
Integrita Systems LLC
http://www.integritasystems.com


Thanks a bunch.  This Really helps.  I have ISA, but never even installed
it.  I thought it was just a firewall.  Thank you again for your help, Ryan.
 


Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with Windows
credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a
Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).


I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help Chris.  Do you
know of anything that might do this? 


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Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Pingle
Ryan wrote:
 
 Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with Windows
 credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
 the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a
 Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).
 
 
 I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help Chris.  Do you
 know of anything that might do this? 

I don't know if the Captive Portal can be coerced to support LDAP or
Kerberos, but I have heard of people achieving a single sign-on type
setup with Squid that way.

Jim

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RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Dimitri Rodis
Single Sign-on (aka one set of credentials) is one thing, the captive portal's 
ability to automatically _receive_ (and authenticate) the credentials from the 
requesting client/browser is another. Unless I'm misunderstanding, Ryan wants 
to get rid of the username/password prompt from the captive portal, and have 
the current windows logon credentials automatically pass to the captive 
portal, which is currently not possible with pfSense-- ISA Server is the only 
thing I know of that does this.

Dimitri Rodis
Integrita Systems LLC
http://www.integritasystems.com


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From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:18 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on 
windows login

Ryan wrote:

 Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with Windows
 credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
 the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a
 Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).


 I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help Chris.  Do you
 know of anything that might do this?

I don't know if the Captive Portal can be coerced to support LDAP or
Kerberos, but I have heard of people achieving a single sign-on type
setup with Squid that way.

Jim

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RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Ryan

 -Original Message-
 From: Dimitri Rodis [mailto:dimit...@integritasystems.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:34 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal 
 authenticate based on windows login
 
 Single Sign-on (aka one set of credentials) is one thing, the 
 captive portal's ability to automatically _receive_ (and 
 authenticate) the credentials from the requesting 
 client/browser is another. Unless I'm misunderstanding, Ryan 
 wants to get rid of the username/password prompt from the 
 captive portal, and have the current windows logon 
 credentials automatically pass to the captive portal, which 
 is currently not possible with pfSense-- ISA Server is the 
 only thing I know of that does this.
 
 Dimitri Rodis
 Integrita Systems LLC
 http://www.integritasystems.com

You are correct.  This is exactly what i want to do.
Ryan Rodrigue

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:18 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal 
 authenticate based on windows login
 
 Ryan wrote:
 
  Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with 
  Windows
  credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
  the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials 
 to IAS on a
  Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).
 
 
  I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help 
 Chris.  Do 
  you know of anything that might do this?
 
 I don't know if the Captive Portal can be coerced to support 
 LDAP or Kerberos, but I have heard of people achieving a 
 single sign-on type setup with Squid that way.
 
 Jim
 
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Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Pingle

That is the type of setup I was describing, where they sign on once (in
Windows) and then further authentication happens in the background via
Kerberos/LDAP/AD/etc.

I can't find the exact article I read before, but this describes sort of
what I was talking about:
http://klaubert.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/squid-kerberos-authentication-and-ldap-authorization-in-active-directory/

Which is still may not quite what the OP had in mind, but closer.

You are correct that it isn't handled by anything in pfSense currently,
but it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility if someone had the
knowledge (or money) for such a project.

Jim

Dimitri Rodis wrote:
 Single Sign-on (aka one set of credentials) is one thing, the captive 
 portal's 
 ability to automatically _receive_ (and authenticate) the credentials from 
 the 
 requesting client/browser is another. Unless I'm misunderstanding, Ryan wants 
 to get rid of the username/password prompt from the captive portal, and have 
 the current windows logon credentials automatically pass to the captive 
 portal, which is currently not possible with pfSense-- ISA Server is the only 
 thing I know of that does this.
 
 Dimitri Rodis
 Integrita Systems LLC
 http://www.integritasystems.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:18 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on 
 windows login
 
 Ryan wrote:
 Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with Windows
 credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
 the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials to IAS on a
 Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).


 I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help Chris.  Do you
 know of anything that might do this?
 
 I don't know if the Captive Portal can be coerced to support LDAP or
 Kerberos, but I have heard of people achieving a single sign-on type
 setup with Squid that way.
 
 Jim
 
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Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Ermal Luçi
I think you can do with some simple Javascript and Ajax.
Or at least that's the way i have seen it done with Squid.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Ryan radiote...@aaremail.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Dimitri Rodis [mailto:dimit...@integritasystems.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:34 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal
 authenticate based on windows login

 Single Sign-on (aka one set of credentials) is one thing, the
 captive portal's ability to automatically _receive_ (and
 authenticate) the credentials from the requesting
 client/browser is another. Unless I'm misunderstanding, Ryan
 wants to get rid of the username/password prompt from the
 captive portal, and have the current windows logon
 credentials automatically pass to the captive portal, which
 is currently not possible with pfSense-- ISA Server is the
 only thing I know of that does this.

 Dimitri Rodis
 Integrita Systems LLC
 http://www.integritasystems.com

 You are correct.  This is exactly what i want to do.
 Ryan Rodrigue



 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:18 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal
 authenticate based on windows login

 Ryan wrote:
 
  Without seeing the CP screen, automatically logging them in with
  Windows
  credentials, no. You can authenticate them on.
  the CP screen with RADIUS using their Windows credentials
 to IAS on a
  Windows Server DC (if you're using AD).
 
 
  I kinda thought that was the case.  Thank you for your help
 Chris.  Do
  you know of anything that might do this?

 I don't know if the Captive Portal can be coerced to support
 LDAP or Kerberos, but I have heard of people achieving a
 single sign-on type setup with Squid that way.

 Jim

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Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Chris Buechler
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dimitri Rodis
dimit...@integritasystems.com wrote:
 Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server (ISA Server), and you
 need to have AD.

 I've used it, but only in this particular case. I do not know of anything in
 the open source world that works reliably specifically the way you want it
 to. (That is not to say that nothing exists, I just may not know about it).
 With respect to ISA, there is a client installation (aka Firewall Client)
 that is required to make the authentication transparent--without it, it
 would work just like pfSense would-- with RADIUS against AD, and the user
 would have to enter credentials manually.


Not exactly, so long as you're using IE it'll pass through credentials
automatically. The firewall client is so you don't have to configure
all your applications to use a proxy, it automatically picks up any
traffic not destined to your internal networks (as defined in ISA) and
pushes it through the proxy. Works well in the environments I use it.

ISA is a good proxy. I personally don't like it as a perimeter
firewall, and it can be buggy (2006 is much better than 2004 and 2000,
though still quirky at times), but its proxy functionality in a
Windows environment is great. The reverse proxy is also nice if you
use OWA and/or OMA with Exchange.

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RE: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on windows login

2009-04-21 Thread Dimitri Rodis
Not to get too far OT, but whenever I have a machine that doesn't have the
ISA firewall client, I get credential prompts with ISA (when it's configured
for specific user/group access lists, etc).

From the Firewall Client for ISA Server Download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=05C2C932-B15A-4990-
B525-66380743DA89displaylang=en
...Firewall Client sends user information transparently with each request,
enabling you to create a firewall policy on the ISA Server computer with
rules that use the authentication credentials presented by the client.

I'd use pfSense any day of the week over ISA, even if it meant they had to
use credential prompts.

Bottom line: if eliminating credential prompts is an absolute must, ISA can
do it for sure. pfSense, not yet ;)

Dimitri Rodis
Integrita Systems LLC 
http://www.integritasystems.com


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From: cbuech...@gmail.com [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Buechler
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:35 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Can captive portal authenticate based on
windows login

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dimitri Rodis
dimit...@integritasystems.com wrote:
 Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server (ISA Server), and you
 need to have AD.

 I've used it, but only in this particular case. I do not know of anything
in
 the open source world that works reliably specifically the way you want it
 to. (That is not to say that nothing exists, I just may not know about
it).
 With respect to ISA, there is a client installation (aka Firewall Client)
 that is required to make the authentication transparent--without it, it
 would work just like pfSense would-- with RADIUS against AD, and the user
 would have to enter credentials manually.


Not exactly, so long as you're using IE it'll pass through credentials
automatically. The firewall client is so you don't have to configure
all your applications to use a proxy, it automatically picks up any
traffic not destined to your internal networks (as defined in ISA) and
pushes it through the proxy. Works well in the environments I use it.

ISA is a good proxy. I personally don't like it as a perimeter
firewall, and it can be buggy (2006 is much better than 2004 and 2000,
though still quirky at times), but its proxy functionality in a
Windows environment is great. The reverse proxy is also nice if you
use OWA and/or OMA with Exchange.

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