Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-11-10 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:32 PM, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Is there any possibility that this is a Macintosh (Tiger) issue?

Yes. Does a Windows or Linux client do the same?

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-11-10 Thread JJB

JJB wrote:
I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload 
speeds on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 
768 up). Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am 
connected to is 3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only 
issue, not sure, I haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN 
users.


- Joel



Upstream from my home is still extremely slow over openvpn. I've tried 
some of the suggestions, but can't really try them all. I tried for example:


1. Physical copy using smb over openvpn from my computer - 
extraordinarily slow

2. Rsync to same server over openvpn 6 - 10kbps upstream
3. Rsync same file to webserver at colo (while connected openvpn) 60 
kbps upstream

4. Send email with large attachement using office server over openvpn - slow
5. Send same email without openvpn, using same email server - fast.

Is there any possibility that this is a Macintosh (Tiger) issue? We did 
a test over openvpn, where we ssh to a linux host that is connected to 
openvpn, and had it rsync a file upstream - speed was 100 - 200kbps 
upstream.


The guy I mentioned in my post complaining about upload speed is also 
using Mac with Tiger & Tunnelblick.


- Joel





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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-26 Thread JJB

Scott Ullrich wrote:

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:57 PM, BSD Wiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

To bad it's for v10.5 only.



Coming into this thread late, please forgive me if this has been asked
but can this Viscosity import a configuration file?   With 1.3 we can
generate a windows openvpn installer with certificates bundled in and
I would love to see a function to be able to export a configuration
file that could be used with Viscosity.

Scott

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Actually, I've experiemented with Viscosity recently, on a Leopard 
machine at work. It is pretty nice, imports openvpn configs nicely, 
however, it is Leopard only, and stricter about config file syntax than 
Tunnelblick - for instance:


proto tcp

won't work, you have to use:

proto tcp-client

I think there were a few other things it balked at when importing & I 
had to edit the config file a few times before it worked.


- Joel



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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-25 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:57 PM, BSD Wiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To bad it's for v10.5 only.

Coming into this thread late, please forgive me if this has been asked
but can this Viscosity import a configuration file?   With 1.3 we can
generate a windows openvpn installer with certificates bundled in and
I would love to see a function to be able to export a configuration
file that could be used with Viscosity.

Scott

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-25 Thread BSD Wiz

To bad it's for v10.5 only.

-Phil G




On Oct 25, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Paul M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down  
768 up).



OT: we've started switching Mac OSX users to viscosity, much
nicer/easier to use - a proper OSX application instead of a simple GUI
to openvpn executable.

It will also import tunnelblick settings too.

It does have a programming error whereby if you entered anything into
X509 settings for CA use, it doesn't disable them if you switch to a
shared key.

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-25 Thread Paul M
>>> on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up).


OT: we've started switching Mac OSX users to viscosity, much
nicer/easier to use - a proper OSX application instead of a simple GUI
to openvpn executable.

It will also import tunnelblick settings too.

It does have a programming error whereby if you entered anything into
X509 settings for CA use, it doesn't disable them if you switch to a
shared key.

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread BSD Wiz

here's a thought, you could setup iperf on your src machine and pfsense.

then ssh into the pfsense box and see what speeds your actually getting.

that way you will at least know if it's openvpn or not.

-phil



On Oct 24, 2008, at 4:29 PM, JJB wrote:



Your architecture is somewhat unclear - do I correctly surmise that

you have a pfSense server *somewhere* on a 3/3 connection, and that
several users connect to it via OpenVPN?

two pfsense servers using CARP for failover with a shared vip  
connected to 3/3 pipe (two t1 lines bonded) Also a 10/1 dsl line.


We have about 20 OpenVpn users, but rarely are all 20 connected,  
usually more like  3 -5.


I don't believe it is related to our ISP (AT&T managed internet  
services), or to my ISP at home (ATT DSL) or to the other  
complaining users ISP (Comcast Business Class 2.5mbit upstream  
supposedly).


Does anyone here know what Paul was talking about with PMTU in  
pfsense and where the setting is? Is this just an "allow ICMP on  
this interface" setting?


- Joel



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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:29 PM, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Your architecture is somewhat unclear - do I correctly surmise that
>>
>> you have a pfSense server *somewhere* on a 3/3 connection, and that
>> several users connect to it via OpenVPN?
>>
>
> two pfsense servers using CARP for failover with a shared vip connected to
> 3/3 pipe (two t1 lines bonded) Also a 10/1 dsl line.
>
> We have about 20 OpenVpn users, but rarely are all 20 connected, usually
> more like  3 -5.
>
> I don't believe it is related to our ISP (AT&T managed internet services),
> or to my ISP at home (ATT DSL) or to the other complaining users ISP
> (Comcast Business Class 2.5mbit upstream supposedly).
>
> Does anyone here know what Paul was talking about with PMTU in pfsense and
> where the setting is? Is this just an "allow ICMP on this interface"
> setting?

There is no such setting, it's allowed.

It sounds like just a case of your users maxing out the upload on their end.

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread JJB


Your architecture is somewhat unclear - do I correctly surmise that

you have a pfSense server *somewhere* on a 3/3 connection, and that
several users connect to it via OpenVPN?
  
two pfsense servers using CARP for failover with a shared vip connected 
to 3/3 pipe (two t1 lines bonded) Also a 10/1 dsl line.


We have about 20 OpenVpn users, but rarely are all 20 connected, usually 
more like  3 -5.


I don't believe it is related to our ISP (AT&T managed internet 
services), or to my ISP at home (ATT DSL) or to the other complaining 
users ISP (Comcast Business Class 2.5mbit upstream supposedly).


Does anyone here know what Paul was talking about with PMTU in pfsense 
and where the setting is? Is this just an "allow ICMP on this interface" 
setting?


- Joel



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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread RB
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:16, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload speeds on
> OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up).
> Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am connected to is
> 3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only issue, not sure, I
> haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN users.

I use Tunnelblick with no issue, and I know several of the devs
primarily use Macs as well.

Your architecture is somewhat unclear - do I correctly surmise that
you have a pfSense server *somewhere* on a 3/3 connection, and that
several users connect to it via OpenVPN?

Depending on who your individual providers are, they could well be
throttling encrypted, off-port outbound (upload) traffic; I know
Rogers did [does?], effectively killing VPN use.

Your long ping time below is definitely indicative of link saturation
(tunnel or otherwise), be that done on purpose by the ISP or not.

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread JJB




Paul Mansfield wrote:

JJB wrote:
  

I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload speeds
on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up).
Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am connected to is
3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only issue, not sure, I
haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN users.



could it be traffic shaping by your ISPs?

check ping RTT from remote workers, with standard and large payloads?

have you blocked PMTU on your firewall/openvpn server?

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I've never experimented with altering the ping payload, however, here is 
what I saw when I tested (before I posted the thread starter)


Pinging the LAN server with the samba share that I'm copying to:

25ms ping time with no upload happening from my home workstation)
900 - 1200ms ping time when copying a file

Destination server is Centos machine running SAMBA

- Joel

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread JJB

Paul Mansfield wrote:

JJB wrote:
  

I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload speeds
on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up).
Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am connected to is
3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only issue, not sure, I
haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN users.



could it be traffic shaping by your ISPs?

check ping RTT from remote workers, with standard and large payloads?

have you blocked PMTU on your firewall/openvpn server?

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Hi Paul,

Where do I find PMTU setting in pfsense? Do I need to configure to allow 
some flavor of ping response from the firewall?


- Joel

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread Paul Mansfield
JJB wrote:
> I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload speeds
> on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up).
> Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am connected to is
> 3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only issue, not sure, I
> haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN users.

could it be traffic shaping by your ISPs?

check ping RTT from remote workers, with standard and large payloads?

have you blocked PMTU on your firewall/openvpn server?

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Re: [pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread Ron Blanchett
your up speed will only be as fast as the UPLOAD speed on YOUR ISP. In YOUR
case 768. OpenVPN does not magically make your up speed that of servers that
you are connecting to.

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:16 AM, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload speeds on
> OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up).
> Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am connected to is
> 3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only issue, not sure, I
> haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN users.
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[pfSense Support] OpenVPN super-slow upload speeds

2008-10-24 Thread JJB
I, and some of our users are getting very slow, modem like upload speeds 
on OpenVPN from home - using Tunnelblick on my DSL (6mbit down 768 up). 
Download speed is OK - about 560kbps. The WAN link I am connected to is 
3mbit in both directions. This might be a mac-only issue, not sure, I 
haven't heard any complaints from Windows OpenVPN users.


- Joel



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