Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-07 Thread Rainer Duffner

Chris Buechler schrieb:

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

The older FreeBSD installations had a floppy boot disc, whether this could be 
adapted I have wondered?



Not in this fashion, no.

  



The only thing worse than booting from CDROM is booting from floppy - 
from a reliability point of view.

Avoid it at all cost.
Floppies are really previous-millenium-technology.


Rainer

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Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-07 Thread Paul M
people have already suggested booting the live CD with the config on 
USB, so that problem's solved.


try www.bootdisk.com for useful stuff, and I recommend Ultimate Boot CD 
as a valuable resource. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/


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[pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Ernesto Eduardo Medina Núñez
Hi I'm new to BSD and pfsense.
I want to boot pfsense from my usb pen drive but my BIOS it's old and can't
boot from a USB drive.

Sombody can help me?

Note: I don't have Hard Drive nor Floppy Disk, I just have:
-Cd-rom drive
-1GB USB pen drive with pfsense installed (it works I tested it on my
laptop)
- the pfsense cd,
- computer with 3 network cards.
- celeron proccesor (333) very old!


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Lalo: Just do it, life is too short


Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Gary Buckmaster

Ernesto Eduardo Medina Núñez wrote:

Hi I'm new to BSD and pfsense.
I want to boot pfsense from my usb pen drive but my BIOS it's old and 
can't boot from a USB drive.


Sombody can help me?

Note: I don't have Hard Drive nor Floppy Disk, I just have:
-Cd-rom drive
-1GB USB pen drive with pfsense installed (it works I tested it on my 
laptop)

- the pfsense cd,
- computer with 3 network cards.
- celeron proccesor (333) very old!


--
Lalo: Just do it, life is too short 
If your BIOS is too old to boot from a USB drive, but you want to boot 
from a USB drive, what could you possibly expect us to do? 


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Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 07.05.2008 um 00:21 schrieb Gary Buckmaster:


Ernesto Eduardo Medina Núñez wrote:

Hi I'm new to BSD and pfsense.
I want to boot pfsense from my usb pen drive but my BIOS it's old  
and can't boot from a USB drive.


Sombody can help me?

Note: I don't have Hard Drive nor Floppy Disk, I just have:
-Cd-rom drive
-1GB USB pen drive with pfsense installed (it works I tested it on  
my laptop)

- the pfsense cd,
- computer with 3 network cards.
- celeron proccesor (333) very old!


--
Lalo: Just do it, life is too short
If your BIOS is too old to boot from a USB drive, but you want to  
boot from a USB drive, what could you possibly expect us to do?






Get an adapter, so you can connect a micro drive to ATA and boot from  
that.


There's no magic.

Can't you boot from CD and put the rules on USB?

I've never done that, but IIRC, pfsense can do that.



Rainer
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RE: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Michael Richardson
Booting from CD isn't an option? Why are you trying to boot from USB?

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From: Ernesto Eduardo Medina Núñez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support


Hi I'm new to BSD and pfsense.
I want to boot pfsense from my usb pen drive but my BIOS it's old and can't
boot from a USB drive.

Sombody can help me? 

Note: I don't have Hard Drive nor Floppy Disk, I just have:
-Cd-rom drive 
-1GB USB pen drive with pfsense installed (it works I tested it on my
laptop)
- the pfsense cd,
- computer with 3 network cards.
- celeron proccesor (333) very old!


-- 
Lalo: Just do it, life is too short 


Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Anil Garg
If BIOS does not support booting from USB then no operating system can help 
because the BIOS is the first intelligence to the processor which directs the 
computer to devices.

Looks like you should boot from pfsense liveCD and then configure the rules to 
be saved on the USB drive.

Ideally save your current config.xml file on any USB drive root.  Remove all 
other files even if they don't matter(just keeps it clean)

And then boot from CD.  The pfsense should recognize the USB drive and the 
config file.  Leave the CD in there for future power cyles.
Hope this helps.

Ernesto Eduardo Medina Núñez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm new to BSD and 
pfsense.
I want to boot pfsense from my usb pen drive but my BIOS it's old and can't 
boot from a USB drive.

Sombody can help me? 

Note: I don't have Hard Drive nor Floppy Disk, I just have:
 -Cd-rom drive 
-1GB USB pen drive with pfsense installed (it works I tested it on my laptop)
- the pfsense cd,
- computer with 3 network cards.
- celeron proccesor (333) very old!


-- 
Lalo: Just do it, life is too short 


Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Tortise
Re: If BIOS does not support booting from USB then no operating system can help 
because the BIOS is the first intelligence to the processor which directs the 
computer to devices.

A Compact flash with IDE interface works very well.

It seems to me that a floppy could boot, load a USB driver and hand over to the 
USB device on these old machines?  Any reason not?  (Floppy disk required!)

Kind regards
David Hingston 



Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Chris Buechler
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems to me that a floppy could boot, load a USB driver and hand over to
 the USB device on these old machines?  Any reason not?  (Floppy disk
 required!)


I was thinking of that - I seem to recall some kind of boot loader
that can load from a floppy or CD and then boot from a USB device.
Don't remember any details whatsoever, and I might be dreaming that up
but I'm pretty sure I've seen it at some point. Not helpful at all,
but it's worth Googling for someone that's interested.

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Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Tortise
The older FreeBSD installations had a floppy boot disc, whether this could be 
adapted I have wondered?
Kind regards
David Hingston 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
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On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems to me that a floppy could boot, load a USB driver and hand over to
 the USB device on these old machines?  Any reason not?  (Floppy disk
 required!)


I was thinking of that - I seem to recall some kind of boot loader
that can load from a floppy or CD and then boot from a USB device.
Don't remember any details whatsoever, and I might be dreaming that up
but I'm pretty sure I've seen it at some point. Not helpful at all,
but it's worth Googling for someone that's interested.

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Re: [pfSense Support] boot usb wothout bios support

2008-05-06 Thread Chris Buechler
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Tortise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The older FreeBSD installations had a floppy boot disc, whether this could be 
 adapted I have wondered?

Not in this fashion, no.

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