Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Tim Nelson wrote: > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh 1.2.1 > installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one issue. It > doesn't install at all. The output from the installation session: we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in place of cacti and nagios - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Tim, The Zabbix agent package has been broken for quite some time. I've recommended before that it be removed entirely. The zabbix agent itself doesn't work well with FreeBSD and so you're unlikely to get much use out of it. -Gary Tim Nelson wrote: Good morning/afternoon/evening- I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation session: Downloading package configuration file... done. Saving updated package information... done. Downloading Zabbix Agent and its dependencies... done. Checking for successful package installation... failed! Installation aborted. It happens rather quickly too leading me to believe that no packages are actually downloaded and it tries to continue installation anyways. Does anyone have some pointers? Thanks! Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org !DSPAM:4963a5be15808977057609! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
RE: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it up to get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan failures; pretty much anything you might want to hear about. Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty nice. -Original Message- From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 Tim Nelson wrote: > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh 1.2.1 > installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one issue. It > doesn't install at all. The output from the installation session: we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in place of cacti and nagios - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Thank you all for the responses! I thought that the Zabbix Agent package may be out of date but it did list it as being 'up to par' with version 1.2.1 of pfSense in the packages page. Apparently it is incorrect. Well, back to the drawing board. I've been using JFFNMS for quite some time as a monitoring solution. It works well as long as you don't mind running PHP4 and MySQL4 on an older box. The latest version has some serious issues (Google "jffnms admin structure not found") which haven't been fixed and the project is nearly dead. It's time to move on... Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 - "Nathan Eisenberg" wrote: > Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers > deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it up to > get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan failures; > pretty much anything you might want to hear about. > > Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty > nice. > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM > To: support@pfsense.com > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 > > Tim Nelson wrote: > > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh > 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one > issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation > session: > > we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in > place > of cacti and nagios > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
RE: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Tim, Zabbix does support SNMP checks and TCP/IP via zabbix-server originated pings and port checks. -Original Message- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:45 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 Thank you all for the responses! I thought that the Zabbix Agent package may be out of date but it did list it as being 'up to par' with version 1.2.1 of pfSense in the packages page. Apparently it is incorrect. Well, back to the drawing board. I've been using JFFNMS for quite some time as a monitoring solution. It works well as long as you don't mind running PHP4 and MySQL4 on an older box. The latest version has some serious issues (Google "jffnms admin structure not found") which haven't been fixed and the project is nearly dead. It's time to move on... Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 - "Nathan Eisenberg" wrote: > Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers > deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it up to > get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan failures; > pretty much anything you might want to hear about. > > Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty > nice. > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM > To: support@pfsense.com > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 > > Tim Nelson wrote: > > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh > 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one > issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation > session: > > we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in > place > of cacti and nagios > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Just curious, what does Zabbix do that Nagios does not? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote: > Tim, > > Zabbix does support SNMP checks and TCP/IP via zabbix-server originated > pings and port checks. > > -Original Message- > From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:45 AM > To: support@pfsense.com > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 > > Thank you all for the responses! > > I thought that the Zabbix Agent package may be out of date but it did list > it as being 'up to par' with version 1.2.1 of pfSense in the packages page. > Apparently it is incorrect. Well, back to the drawing board. see if Zabbix supports plain TCP/UDP port monitoring, content checking, and > SNMP polling...> > > > I've been using JFFNMS for quite some time as a monitoring solution. It > works well as long as you don't mind running PHP4 and MySQL4 on an older > box. The latest version has some serious issues (Google "jffnms admin > structure not found") which haven't been fixed and the project is nearly > dead. It's time to move on... > > > Tim Nelson > Systems/Network Support > Rockbochs Inc. > (218)727-4332 x105 > > - "Nathan Eisenberg" wrote: > > > Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers > > deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it up to > > get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan failures; > > pretty much anything you might want to hear about. > > > > Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty > > nice. > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM > > To: support@pfsense.com > > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 > > > > Tim Nelson wrote: > > > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh > > 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one > > issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation > > session: > > > > we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in > > place > > of cacti and nagios > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > >
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Part of the intrigue for me was a nice consolidated interface for everything. With Nagios, you still really need Cacti to make it fully functional. Plus, the zabbix-agent allows for an even wider scope of monitoring versus plain old network/ping/snmp checks. I've tried the Nagios/Cacti route and just didn't like it. - "Curtis LaMasters" wrote: > Just curious, what does Zabbix do that Nagios does not? > Curtis LaMasters > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > http://www.builtnetworks.com > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Nathan Eisenberg < nat...@atlasnetworks.us > wrote: > Tim, > > Zabbix does support SNMP checks and TCP/IP via zabbix-server originated pings > and port checks. > > -Original Message- > From: Tim Nelson [mailto: tnel...@rockbochs.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:45 AM > To: support@pfsense.com > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 > > Thank you all for the responses! > > I thought that the Zabbix Agent package may be out of date but it did list it > as being 'up to par' with version 1.2.1 of pfSense in the packages page. > Apparently it is incorrect. Well, back to the drawing board. if Zabbix supports plain TCP/UDP port monitoring, content checking, and SNMP > polling...> > > > I've been using JFFNMS for quite some time as a monitoring solution. It works > well as long as you don't mind running PHP4 and MySQL4 on an older box. The > latest version has some serious issues (Google "jffnms admin structure not > found") which haven't been fixed and the project is nearly dead. It's time to > move on... > > > Tim Nelson > Systems/Network Support > Rockbochs Inc. > (218)727-4332 x105 > > - "Nathan Eisenberg" < nat...@atlasnetworks.us > wrote: > > > Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers > > deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it up to > > get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan failures; > > pretty much anything you might want to hear about. > > > > Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty > > nice. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Mansfield [mailto: it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com ] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM > > To: support@pfsense.com > > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 > > > > Tim Nelson wrote: > > > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh > > 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one > > issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation > > session: > > > > we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in > > place > > of cacti and nagios > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > >
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
The graphing I can understand but with NRPE/NSCA on Linux and possibly BSD systems, you really aren't limited to network/ping/SNMP checks unless I'm missing something about Zabbix. Initiating research now. :) Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Tim Nelson wrote: > Part of the intrigue for me was a nice consolidated interface for > everything. With Nagios, you still really need Cacti to make it fully > functional. Plus, the zabbix-agent allows for an even wider scope of > monitoring versus plain old network/ping/snmp checks. I've tried the > Nagios/Cacti route and just didn't like it. > > > - "Curtis LaMasters" wrote: > > Just curious, what does Zabbix do that Nagios does not? > > > Curtis LaMasters > > http://www.curtis-lamasters.com > > http://www.builtnetworks.com > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Nathan Eisenberg < > nat...@atlasnetworks.us> wrote: > > >> >> Tim, >> > >> > Zabbix does support SNMP checks and TCP/IP via zabbix-server originated >> pings and port checks. >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:45 AM >> > To: support@pfsense.com >> > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 >> > >> > Thank you all for the responses! >> > >> > I thought that the Zabbix Agent package may be out of date but it did >> list it as being 'up to par' with version 1.2.1 of pfSense in the packages >> page. Apparently it is incorrect. Well, back to the drawing board. > to see if Zabbix supports plain TCP/UDP port monitoring, content checking, >> and SNMP polling...> >> > >> > >> > I've been using JFFNMS for quite some time as a monitoring solution. It >> works well as long as you don't mind running PHP4 and MySQL4 on an older >> box. The latest version has some serious issues (Google "jffnms admin >> structure not found") which haven't been fixed and the project is nearly >> dead. It's time to move on... >> > >> > >> > Tim Nelson >> > Systems/Network Support >> > Rockbochs Inc. >> > (218)727-4332 x105 >> > >> > - "Nathan Eisenberg" wrote: >> > >> > > Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers >> > > deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it up to >> > > get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan failures; >> > > pretty much anything you might want to hear about. >> > > >> > > Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty >> > > nice. >> > > >> > > -Original Message- >> > > From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com] >> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM >> > > To: support@pfsense.com >> > > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 >> > > >> > > Tim Nelson wrote: >> > > > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a fresh >> > > 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'. Namely, one >> > > issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation >> > > session: >> > > >> > > we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in >> > > place >> > > of cacti and nagios >> > > >> > > - >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com >> > > >> > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com >> > > >> > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com >> > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com >> > >> > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com >> > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com >> > >> > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org >> > >> > >> > > > >
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Is there anyone here who is actually using Zabbix in production and
monitoring FreeBSD boxes with it? I know it looks like a shiny toy, but
I'm telling you that the reality is far less. The monitoring is limited
at best for linux, and almost completely unusable without major
customization for FreeBSD. I agree that having a nice centralized
monitoring system to use with pfSense would be nice, but our extensive
experience evaluating Zabbix led us to the conclusion that it's not
ready for prime time.
Tim Nelson wrote:
Part of the intrigue for me was a nice consolidated interface for
everything. With Nagios, you still really need Cacti to make it fully
functional. Plus, the zabbix-agent allows for an even wider scope of
monitoring versus plain old network/ping/snmp checks. I've tried the
Nagios/Cacti route and just didn't like it.
- "Curtis LaMasters" wrote:
> Just curious, what does Zabbix do that Nagios does not?
>
Curtis LaMasters
> http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
> http://www.builtnetworks.com
>
>
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
mailto:nat...@atlasnetworks.us>> wrote:
>
Tim,
>
> Zabbix does support SNMP checks and TCP/IP via zabbix-server
originated pings and port checks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com
<mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com>]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:45 AM
> To: support@pfsense.com <mailto:support@pfsense.com>
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
>
> Thank you all for the responses!
>
> I thought that the Zabbix Agent package may be out of date but
it did list it as being 'up to par' with version 1.2.1 of pfSense
in the packages page. Apparently it is incorrect. Well, back to
the drawing board.
>
>
> I've been using JFFNMS for quite some time as a monitoring
solution. It works well as long as you don't mind running PHP4 and
MySQL4 on an older box. The latest version has some serious issues
(Google "jffnms admin structure not found") which haven't been
fixed and the project is nearly dead. It's time to move on...
>
>
> Tim Nelson
> Systems/Network Support
> Rockbochs Inc.
> (218)727-4332 x105
>
> - "Nathan Eisenberg" mailto:nat...@atlasnetworks.us>> wrote:
>
> > Throwing my hat in the ring here - we have several zabbix servers
> > deployed in production. It is very good; it is easy to set it
up to
> > get emails on disk failures, raid rebuilds, individual fan
failures;
> > pretty much anything you might want to hear about.
> >
> > Plus having anything you else you can imagine on a graph is pretty
> > nice.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Mansfield [mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com
<mailto:it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:34 AM
> > To: support@pfsense.com <mailto:support@pfsense.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
> >
> > Tim Nelson wrote:
> > > I've recently tried installing the Zabbix Agent package on a
fresh
> > 1.2.1 installation and it appears to have some 'issues'.
Namely, one
> > issue. It doesn't install at all. The output from the installation
> > session:
> >
> > we too would be interested in this, as we're trialling zabbix in
> > place
> > of cacti and nagios
> >
> >
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<mailto:support-h...@pfsense.com>
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Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Am 06.01.2009 um 20:18 schrieb Curtis LaMasters: The graphing I can understand but with NRPE/NSCA on Linux and possibly BSD systems, you really aren't limited to network/ping/SNMP checks unless I'm missing something about Zabbix. Initiating research now. :) From what I could see, once you install the agent, Zabbix was able to figure out most of the services by itself. This is especially true for disks, CPU-load, memory and interfaces that are IMO quite timeconsuming to setup in Nagios. And Cacti has no way of setting up and managing dozens or hundreds of similar services at once, last time I looked. I don't know how well Zabbix scales, though. Rainer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
That may be my conclusion as well. Luckily, I'm in the test/R&D phase and not looking to go production tomorrow with it. Off the top of my head, I still have OpenNMS, Zenoss, Groundwork, and Hyperic on my list of candidates. Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 - "Gary Buckmaster" wrote: > Is there anyone here who is actually using Zabbix in production and > monitoring FreeBSD boxes with it? I know it looks like a shiny toy, > but > I'm telling you that the reality is far less. The monitoring is > limited > at best for linux, and almost completely unusable without major > customization for FreeBSD. I agree that having a nice centralized > monitoring system to use with pfSense would be nice, but our extensive > > experience evaluating Zabbix led us to the conclusion that it's not > ready for prime time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
RE: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
I've evaluated each of those, several times. My conclusion at the end of the day was that Zabbix was the way to go - and like I said, I have multiple Zabbix servers in production monitoring Windows, Debian, Redhat, Gentoo, OpenBSD, Xen, firewalls, switches, and sensors. I needed to be able to watch everything - from the fan speed on my Windows servers to the free swap space on evaluation servers across the internet. As to why I selected it over nagios and cacti, the reality was that at the end of the day, I felt those tools were not flexible enough for the wide variety of systems and configurations I needed to monitor. This is certainly not to say that your evaluation is in any way wrong; it may simply not be a good fit for your environment, and everyone needs to make that determination for themselves. But that's why we took these jobs - there are often lots of right answers. :) Cheers, Nathan Eisenberg -Original Message- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tnel...@rockbochs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:29 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1 That may be my conclusion as well. Luckily, I'm in the test/R&D phase and not looking to go production tomorrow with it. Off the top of my head, I still have OpenNMS, Zenoss, Groundwork, and Hyperic on my list of candidates. Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 - "Gary Buckmaster" wrote: > Is there anyone here who is actually using Zabbix in production and > monitoring FreeBSD boxes with it? I know it looks like a shiny toy, > but > I'm telling you that the reality is far less. The monitoring is > limited > at best for linux, and almost completely unusable without major > customization for FreeBSD. I agree that having a nice centralized > monitoring system to use with pfSense would be nice, but our extensive > > experience evaluating Zabbix led us to the conclusion that it's not > ready for prime time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Gary Buckmaster wrote: > Is there anyone here who is actually using Zabbix in production and > monitoring FreeBSD boxes with it? I know it looks like a shiny toy, but I'm > telling you that the reality is far less. The monitoring is limited at best > for linux, and almost completely unusable without major customization for > FreeBSD. I agree that having a nice centralized monitoring system to use > with pfSense would be nice, but our extensive experience evaluating Zabbix > led us to the conclusion that it's not ready for prime time. I use it in production and it works great. Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Hi folks, Still one day behind (jet lag from Paris, France)… Anyway I am using Zabbix in production on FreeBSD Servers (6.3p7 - 6.4p1 - 7.0p7) since a couple of month… and I have a very precise overview of what's working and what's broken. The main problem with zabbix (server and client) is that the startup script does not work correctly, in fact the process stays in memory (shared memory) without beeing removed on "stop". This can be easily seen using command such as these: # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd start # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd status # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd stop # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd status This will quite obviously start and stop zabbix with a little check between the two to see if everything is ok. The second status will show no processes but if you try to start It again, well, It simply won't!! Took me a while to realize why, in fact the process is still loaded in shared memory. You can check that with this command: # ipcs Message Queues: T ID KEY MODEOWNERGROUP Shared Memory: T ID KEY MODEOWNERGROUP m 131073 2052509788 --rw-rw-rw- zabbix zabbix Semaphores: T ID KEY MODEOWNERGROUP s 196611 2052509788 --rw-rw-rw- zabbix zabbix To make a clean "stop" just issue these commands: # ipcrm -S 2052509788 # ipcrm -M 2052509788 # ipcs The numbers following the -S and -M have to be taken from the output of the "ipcs" command. "ipcs" should show you no process at all now. You will then be able to start It properly. A bit of tuning then to increase the shared memory (generaly needed in the first place)… # sysctl -w kern.ipc.shmall=16384 This is the unfortunate way of running zabbix (client & server) on FreeBSD. Beside these startup / memory related problem, I have had no particular problem with any aspect of the product… Tunning is needed to suit your precise need, but this is done in a much easier way than on any other products I have tested (including: Nagios, Hobbit)… The details / analysis obtained with zabbix are quite impressive. I would really love to see hobbit on PFSense… I don't know if this will be corrected anytime soon, I have warned the person in charge of the port, but so far nothing has been done (I am unfortunately not good enough to dig in the code and correct these problems)… Sincerly yours. Le 6 janv. 09 à 20:20, Gary Buckmaster a écrit : Is there anyone here who is actually using Zabbix in production and monitoring FreeBSD boxes with it? I know it looks like a shiny toy, but I'm telling you that the reality is far less. The monitoring is limited at best for linux, and almost completely unusable without major customization for FreeBSD. I agree that having a nice centralized monitoring system to use with pfSense would be nice, but our extensive experience evaluating Zabbix led us to the conclusion that it's not ready for prime time. Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Rainer Duffner wrote: > From what I could see, once you install the agent, Zabbix was able to > figure out most of the services by itself. > This is especially true for disks, CPU-load, memory and interfaces that > are IMO quite timeconsuming to setup in Nagios. I quite liked munin for that; I use it at home and it's very good for a small number of servers*. Munin is absolutely trivial to set up, and writing plugins is actually quite enjoyable. > And Cacti has no way of setting up and managing dozens or hundreds of > similar services at once, last time I looked. yes, cacti really needs a "copy this host" feature, and better, a bulk-add. * yes, I am sad. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Zabbix Agent package on 1.2.1
Last minute update! Since yesterday and the release of zabbix-1.6_1,1 the problems described here under have been patched and corrected. Only problem is if you activate the "jabber media type" in the options. So this is quite good news. Le 7 janv. 09 à 12:12, bsd a écrit : Hi folks, Still one day behind (jet lag from Paris, France)… Anyway I am using Zabbix in production on FreeBSD Servers (6.3p7 - 6.4p1 - 7.0p7) since a couple of month… and I have a very precise overview of what's working and what's broken. The main problem with zabbix (server and client) is that the startup script does not work correctly, in fact the process stays in memory (shared memory) without beeing removed on "stop". This can be easily seen using command such as these: # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd start # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd status # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd stop # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zabbix_agentd status This will quite obviously start and stop zabbix with a little check between the two to see if everything is ok. The second status will show no processes but if you try to start It again, well, It simply won't!! Took me a while to realize why, in fact the process is still loaded in shared memory. You can check that with this command: # ipcs Message Queues: T ID KEY MODEOWNERGROUP Shared Memory: T ID KEY MODEOWNERGROUP m 131073 2052509788 --rw-rw-rw- zabbix zabbix Semaphores: T ID KEY MODEOWNERGROUP s 196611 2052509788 --rw-rw-rw- zabbix zabbix To make a clean "stop" just issue these commands: # ipcrm -S 2052509788 # ipcrm -M 2052509788 # ipcs The numbers following the -S and -M have to be taken from the output of the "ipcs" command. "ipcs" should show you no process at all now. You will then be able to start It properly. A bit of tuning then to increase the shared memory (generaly needed in the first place)… # sysctl -w kern.ipc.shmall=16384 This is the unfortunate way of running zabbix (client & server) on FreeBSD. Beside these startup / memory related problem, I have had no particular problem with any aspect of the product… Tunning is needed to suit your precise need, but this is done in a much easier way than on any other products I have tested (including: Nagios, Hobbit)… The details / analysis obtained with zabbix are quite impressive. I would really love to see hobbit on PFSense… I don't know if this will be corrected anytime soon, I have warned the person in charge of the port, but so far nothing has been done (I am unfortunately not good enough to dig in the code and correct these problems)… Sincerly yours. Le 6 janv. 09 à 20:20, Gary Buckmaster a écrit : Is there anyone here who is actually using Zabbix in production and monitoring FreeBSD boxes with it? I know it looks like a shiny toy, but I'm telling you that the reality is far less. The monitoring is limited at best for linux, and almost completely unusable without major customization for FreeBSD. I agree that having a nice centralized monitoring system to use with pfSense would be nice, but our extensive experience evaluating Zabbix led us to the conclusion that it's not ready for prime time. Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
