Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Karl Fife

It's base 64 encoded, which is easily reversible without SSL. More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_access_authentication


Thanks.  This is very helpful.


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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Karl Fife  wrote:
>
> So to clarify, that would be to say auth IS sent in clear text across the
> network, when using HTTP web admin ?
>

It's base 64 encoded, which is easily reversible without SSL. More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_access_authentication

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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Karl Fife  wrote:
>> Tell them to use a worthwhile browser. The reason the SVG graphs don't
>> work is because IE is the only browser that doesn't come with SVG
>> integrated and for whatever reason the plugin has issues if you force
>> authentication with HTTPS. See the 1.2.2 release announcement for
>> details. This is a known problem with IE, and the only way to fix it
>> is to not require authentication to see the graphs. We're not going to
>> do that for the sake of supporting IE.
>
> Sound reasoning.  I agree that it's the right choice.
>
>>> Am I correct in my
>>> understanding that the auth is NOT sent across the network in clear text
>>> even when using HTTP?
>
>> No.
>
> So to clarify, that would be to say auth IS sent in clear text across the
> network, when using HTTP web admin ?

Yes

>
> Thanks & keep up the outstanding work!
>
>
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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Karl Fife

Tell them to use a worthwhile browser. The reason the SVG graphs don't
work is because IE is the only browser that doesn't come with SVG
integrated and for whatever reason the plugin has issues if you force
authentication with HTTPS. See the 1.2.2 release announcement for
details. This is a known problem with IE, and the only way to fix it
is to not require authentication to see the graphs. We're not going to
do that for the sake of supporting IE.


Sound reasoning.  I agree that it's the right choice.


Am I correct in my
understanding that the auth is NOT sent across the network in clear text
even when using HTTP?



No.
So to clarify, that would be to say auth IS sent in clear text across the 
network, when using HTTP web admin ?


Thanks & keep up the outstanding work!




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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Chris Buechler  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Karl Fife  wrote:
>> I want to say that I recall a move to IPTables was
>> anticipated at some point.  Has that happened?
>>
>
> What?!  hah  Never. Wow, the chance of anyone with a commit bit even
> remotely considering iptables is beyond absurd. No, no, no, no.

And would require either a port of iptables from linux to freebsd, or
a port of pfsense from freebsd to linux.  As Chris says, nobody with
commit access to our repo has any sort of desire to see either happen.

--Bill

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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Karl Fife  wrote:
> Just upgraded to 1.2.2 this morning
>
> 1
> Tested SVG Graphing on both IE 6 & 7 works on HTTP, but not HTTPS.  Nice
> work.  As documented, I understand the non-support for IE on https if it's
> not conforming to de-facto or canonical standards.  The HTTP-only support at
> least avoids the problem of hearing from clients "What kind of product are
> you selling me--It doesn't even work with IE!".

Tell them to use a worthwhile browser. The reason the SVG graphs don't
work is because IE is the only browser that doesn't come with SVG
integrated and for whatever reason the plugin has issues if you force
authentication with HTTPS. See the 1.2.2 release announcement for
details. This is a known problem with IE, and the only way to fix it
is to not require authentication to see the graphs. We're not going to
do that for the sake of supporting IE.


> Am I correct in my
> understanding that the auth is NOT sent across the network in clear text
> even when using HTTP?
>

No.


> 2
> Question: Is the traffic shaper the same between 1.2 and 1.2.1 & 1.2.2

Not a single thing in the RELENG_1_2 branch with the shaper has
changed since before 1.2.


> Is 1.2.2
> Still using PF?

Of course.


> I want to say that I recall a move to IPTables was
> anticipated at some point.  Has that happened?
>

What?!  hah  Never. Wow, the chance of anyone with a commit bit even
remotely considering iptables is beyond absurd. No, no, no, no.


> 3
> Is the non-appearance of the system temperature on the Soekris 5501 (as
> compared to the 4801) a device issue (as in 'device is not present') or is
> it just a driver issue as in 'driver is not present' in this version of BSD?

The application that was used was specific to the 4801. I believe it
was removed entirely between 1.2 and 1.2.1, but I don't recall
details.

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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Karl Fife

:-)
-Karl
(der Käfer)


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From: "Rainer Duffner" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released




Am 11.01.2009 um 17:22 schrieb Karl Fife:


Just upgraded to 1.2.2 this morning


2
Question: Is the traffic shaper the same between 1.2 and 1.2.1 &  1.2.2 I 
was 'beating' on the shaper & VOIP this morning. Upwards of  15 
simultaneous G.711 calls (no packet-loss concealment features  like 
g.726) while simultaneously 'pegging' the nominal maximum of  the pipe as 
configured in the shape.  I couldn't introduce any human- perceptible 
jitter.  Is 1.2.2 Still using PF?  I want to say that I  recall a move to 
IPTables was anticipated at some point.  Has that  happened?



I don't think you can form a positive sentence with "iptables" and 
"sense".

;-)

Besides, iptables is linux-only. Just like pf is BSD-only.
(Well, strictly speaking, there seems to be Core Force: 
http://force.coresecurity.com/index.php?module=base&page=about - but I 
don't know how well it's maintained and I don't use Windows  at all 
anyway...)




Rainer

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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 11.01.2009 um 17:22 schrieb Karl Fife:


Just upgraded to 1.2.2 this morning


2
Question: Is the traffic shaper the same between 1.2 and 1.2.1 &  
1.2.2 I was 'beating' on the shaper & VOIP this morning. Upwards of  
15 simultaneous G.711 calls (no packet-loss concealment features  
like g.726) while simultaneously 'pegging' the nominal maximum of  
the pipe as configured in the shape.  I couldn't introduce any human- 
perceptible jitter.  Is 1.2.2 Still using PF?  I want to say that I  
recall a move to IPTables was anticipated at some point.  Has that  
happened?



I don't think you can form a positive sentence with "iptables" and  
"sense".

;-)

Besides, iptables is linux-only. Just like pf is BSD-only.
(Well, strictly speaking, there seems to be Core Force: http://force.coresecurity.com/index.php?module=base&page=about 
 - but I don't know how well it's maintained and I don't use Windows  
at all anyway...)




Rainer

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Re: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released

2009-01-11 Thread Karl Fife

Just upgraded to 1.2.2 this morning

1
Tested SVG Graphing on both IE 6 & 7 works on HTTP, but not HTTPS.  Nice 
work.  As documented, I understand the non-support for IE on https if it's 
not conforming to de-facto or canonical standards.  The HTTP-only support at 
least avoids the problem of hearing from clients "What kind of product are 
you selling me--It doesn't even work with IE!".  Am I correct in my 
understanding that the auth is NOT sent across the network in clear text 
even when using HTTP?


2
Question: Is the traffic shaper the same between 1.2 and 1.2.1 & 1.2.2 I was 
'beating' on the shaper & VOIP this morning. Upwards of 15 simultaneous 
G.711 calls (no packet-loss concealment features like g.726) while 
simultaneously 'pegging' the nominal maximum of the pipe as configured in 
the shape.  I couldn't introduce any human-perceptible jitter.  Is 1.2.2 
Still using PF?  I want to say that I recall a move to IPTables was 
anticipated at some point.  Has that happened?


3
Is the non-appearance of the system temperature on the Soekris 5501 (as 
compared to the 4801) a device issue (as in 'device is not present') or is 
it just a driver issue as in 'driver is not present' in this version of BSD? 
I've always been curious about that.   We've got a number of soekris boards 
in the field


Great work!
-Karl



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Subject: [pfSense Support] 1.2.2 released



see http://blog.pfsense.org/?p=351

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