Re: Trouble installing newsfox update

2009-11-14 Thread Daniel

Duke Normandin wrote:

Daniel wrote:

dukester wrote:

Hey...

DLed the  latest newfox .xpi file. I used:

File  Open File  xpi_file

but I keep getting the error:

The installation of Newsfox failed
One of the files being overwritten is read-only

I'm using V1.1.18  on OS X 10.5.8

Any ideas?  TIA...
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Yes of course... that was it! Thanks for pointing that out.


No probsbeen there, done that, myself!

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Re: Which Drive for Profile??

2009-11-14 Thread Daniel

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


They are going to migrate to the default location on your C drive.
You ca move them manually to your D drive instead.

On XP

C:\\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles

Lee


So if I move to D: how is SM gonna find them??


So I moved to D: and when I restart SM it starts the
migration wizard. What do I do now? I can go thru
this all again, and the profile stuff will again end
up on C:. WTF! Who writes this stuff??


Calm down a bit. The migration process is designed for the average user. 
 Anyone who stores their profile somewhere other then the default is not 
average.  Above average, sure, but not average. ;)


First of all, if you start the migration wizard again, its just going to 
place the data back in the default location again.  Remember, its 
designed for the vast number of users who use that default location, not 
the small number of users such as us, who do unusual things with our 
profiles.


When I was testing 2.0 nightlies, for quite a while, the wizard could 
not deal with my ail/news profile at all, since I keep my data outside 
the profile.  I expected this, and was actually pleasantly surprised 
when the finished version managed to migrate it correctly.


Still, back to your problem.  You are going to have to migrate your 
profile data manually.  Basically, you  use Profile Manager to create a 
new profile, then copy your profile data to the new profile folder.

  Here is a knowledgebase article that describes the process in detail:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey

Note this:

Copy data to the new profile

* It may be possible to create a new profile, delete the profile 
folder contents, and then copy the entire contents of another profile 
into the new, now-empty profile folder. However, this is not recommended 
when moving from a 1.x profile to SeaMonkey 2 and should not be done if 
you had problems with the other profile.



What I do in this situation, for example when I transfer profile data 
from an old machine to a new machine,is to copy the entire profile 
folder I am moving, and paste it into the new location. I then rename 
the pasted folder to the exact name of the newly created folder.


An example. Lets say that the SM 2.0 folder on your C drive is 
.default.  The x's are a random string, so, lets assume 
a1b2c3d4.default.


The profile folder you have created on your D drive using Profile 
Manager, is called 4d3c2b1a.new.


Since the new profile is a blank profile, you can delete it.  I would 
rename it old4d3c2b1a.new, just in case.  The rename a1b2c3d4.default to 
4d3c2b1a.new.


Open SeaMonkey, and you should be seeing the new data stored in the new 
location. Once you are satisfied that all is working as you wish, you 
can delete the renamed folder in the new location, and the profile 
folder in the old location.


Lee


Hey, Lee, if cciaffone has already let SM 2.0 put the profile where it 
wanted, then manually moved it to where cciaffone wants it (somewhere on 
the D:), shouldn't cciaffone just be able to use the Profile Manager to 
create a new Profile and point it to where, on the D:, cciaffone moved 
the profile??


I'm sure I've done this with SM 1.1.x, but will it work in the new set-up??

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Re: [OSX Tiger] Migration from 1.1.18 - 2.0: GREAT - some observations

2009-11-14 Thread Daniel

Gabriele wrote:

Philip Chee ha scritto:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:00:39 +0100, Gabriele wrote:


2) What did the developers change in SM, that now every 1st outgoing
connection to standard HTTP and SSL ports makes my firewall asking for
permission? It's the same odd behaviour as FireFox 3.5!
I mean: I open SM 2, write an URL, and Little Snitch asks seamonkey-bin
wants to connect to www... TCP port 80. Deny or Allow?! I never saw 
that
alert with previous versions of SM, nor with Safari, but only with 
FireFox

and now SM 2.


As well as Deny/Allow there should be an option Remember my choice to
make your firewall shut up.


Sure, but I'd like to understand why with SM 1.1.18, Safari, Opera and 
other browsers the firewall doesn't show an alert, while it does with 
FireFox and SM 2.0
Given that we're talking about browsers, it's normal to connect to ports 
80 and 443 and the firewall shouldn't alert me.




Gabriele, could it be that sometime in the past you told your firewall 
to let SM 1.1.8, Safari, Opera, etc., to do what they wanted, but, as 
yet, you haven't told the firewall to let SM 2.0 do what it wants??


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Re: SM2 Profiles

2009-11-14 Thread Daniel

Richard wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Richard schrieb:

I upgraded to SM2 never thinking I would have a problem with my multiple
profiles from SM 1.1.18 Oh Boy what a mistake, two days later and I
still cant figure this out.

What is the answer? 


What is the question?
You have to migrate additional profiles manually:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
regards

Martin


what bullshit, a simple restoration of profiles has to be manually done? 
back to ver 1 until the hot shots fix this bug. Oh for the days of the 
real Mozilla.


Richard, did you try running SM 1.1.18 after SM 2.0 mucked up your 
profiles??


When SM 2.0 was installed, all it did was copy your SM 1.1.18 default 
profile to where SM 2.0 wants its profile. Your SM 1.1.18 profile are 
basically untouched and still available for you to use in SM 1.1.18.


If you want to use your other SM 1.1.18 profiles in SM 2.0 (which 
doesn't know about them, yet), you will have to migrate them across from 
SM 1.1.18


HTH

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Re: SeaMonkey v1.1.18 problem with AskMen.com's videos?

2009-11-14 Thread Arne

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:17:17 -0800, /Ant/:

On 11/13/2009 2:14 PM PT, Stanimir Stamenkov typed:

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:05 -0800, /Ant/:


http://www.askmen.com/video/

Is anyone else having missing Flash videos in v1.1.18 (will upgrade to
v2 soon but not now)? Example:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/714/screenshotg.gif ...


Install Stylish:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/2108


For SeaMonkey 1.* use this compatible version, instead:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#stylish


Add the following user style rule for this site:

#mediaBd {
  clear: both;
}

You may consider reporting the problem to the site owners as I'm
experiencing the same with Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and Safari 4, also.
It appears related to the fact I have minimal font size set to 12px in
all of these browsers.


I did e-mail them and got this reply:

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:09:16AM -0800, Martin Helie wrote:
Just tried it and it looks fine; you might want to install v2 of
seamonkey.


I'm experiencing this using SeaMonkey 2.0, also.


Aso for minimal font size, I tried that but nothing fixed it. :(


Make sure you remove the minimal font size for all scripts (Western, 
Other Languages, etc.) and reload the page. Alternatively just try the 
user style I've given previously.




I'm using SM 1.1.18 on Vista and have no problem with the videos. To 
begin with, I see a popup window (made with css) where they ask for 
email address to sign up, on top of the page content that gets 
diminished. But I just close it and the content is available and clear 
again.

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Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

2009-11-14 Thread MikeyG

NoOp wrote:

On 11/12/2009 04:32 AM, MikeyG wrote:
After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I 
stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 
'specially, SeaMonkey Developers!


I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and 
when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from 
switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using 
Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups).


So you've managed to find  use the Form Manager that was present in Fx
2.0 in Fx 3.0? I suspect not as it's been missing in Fx since 2008.




I meant to say that I miss the old Form Manager from earlier SeaMonkey 
versions whether using SM 2.0 or FF 3.5.


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Re: SeaMonkey v1.1.18 problem with AskMen.com's videos?

2009-11-14 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:47:03 +0100, /Arne/:

On 11/13/2009 2:14 PM PT, Stanimir Stamenkov typed:

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:05 -0800, /Ant/:


http://www.askmen.com/video/

Is anyone else having missing Flash videos in v1.1.18 (will upgrade to
v2 soon but not now)? Example:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/714/screenshotg.gif ...


Add the following user style rule for this site:

#mediaBd {
  clear: both;
}

You may consider reporting the problem to the site owners as I'm
experiencing the same with Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and Safari 4, also.
It appears related to the fact I have minimal font size set to 12px in
all of these browsers.


I'm using SM 1.1.18 on Vista and have no problem with the videos. To
begin with, I see a popup window (made with css) where they ask for
email address to sign up, on top of the page content that gets
diminished. But I just close it and the content is available and clear
again.


Do you have a minimum font size set in your preferences?  The 
problem is apparent then.  Without a minimum font size set the 
content appears o.k.


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Re: SeaMonkey v1.1.18 problem with AskMen.com's videos?

2009-11-14 Thread Arne

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:47:03 +0100, /Arne/:

On 11/13/2009 2:14 PM PT, Stanimir Stamenkov typed:

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:05 -0800, /Ant/:


http://www.askmen.com/video/

Is anyone else having missing Flash videos in v1.1.18 (will 
upgrade to

v2 soon but not now)? Example:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/714/screenshotg.gif ...


Add the following user style rule for this site:

#mediaBd {
  clear: both;
}

You may consider reporting the problem to the site owners as I'm
experiencing the same with Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and Safari 4, also.
It appears related to the fact I have minimal font size set to 12px in
all of these browsers.


I'm using SM 1.1.18 on Vista and have no problem with the videos. To
begin with, I see a popup window (made with css) where they ask for
email address to sign up, on top of the page content that gets
diminished. But I just close it and the content is available and clear
again.


Do you have a minimum font size set in your preferences?  The problem is 
apparent then.  Without a minimum font size set the content appears o.k.




I have minimum font size set to 10px and I noticed that makes a 
difference, when I changed it to 12px the site does not work. I don't 
understand how anybody can make a site depending on the font size so 
badly. :confused:


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[ProfD] and its use in configuration/prefs.js (SM 2.0)

2009-11-14 Thread Bob Fleischer
I notice that some paths in my about:config page start with [ProfD] -- I 
assume this means that the path is relative to the profile directory.


However, not all paths are written thus -- many include the complete path 
including (this is Windows) the drive letter.


Can all paths in the configuration or prefs.js be written relative to the 
profile directory with [ProfD]?  In particular, I'd like to get away from 
the use of the drive letter so I can move a profile to a different drive (or 
change the drive letter of the drive).


Are there any other symbolic file system locations other than [ProfD]?  I 
assume that Windows-defined symbolic locations, such as %APPDATA%, aren't 
usable in paths in the profile.


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Re: Editing the bookmarks file

2009-11-14 Thread Rob Lindauer

ClintonHammond wrote:

I tried to open my Seamonky2 bookmarks file in an editor (As I often
did with previous versions of Seamonkey) only to be met with a warning
in the header about how it's a generated file and will be read and
over-written and DO NOT EDIT... What kind of nonsense is this?!?!?!

How can one edit one's own bookmarks file??



I agree with the comments by others to the effect that (1) make sure 
SeaMonkey is completely shut down before editing, (2) keep a backup in 
case you mess things up, and (3) use a plain text / programmer editor.


I edit my bookmarks files frequently (mainly to keep the versions from 
various machines in synch).  I suppose I could use a synch service of 
some sort, but I've been editing for a decade and don't see a reason to 
stop now.


I usually just copy/paste uncategorized items from/to the bottom of my 
bookmarks file, and then use the bookmark manager to move the bookmarks 
into the right categories.  That way I don't need to worry about (nor 
mess up) categories and category delimiters.


I could misremember, but I think the system generated file warning has 
been at the top of many Mozilla / Firefox / SeaMonkey files for a long 
time - maybe including the bookmark file.


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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread Nobody

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.


I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update but
Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you encounter?

Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?



Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is 
recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:


For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer 
(sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and 
Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled.  Mozilla Firefox is not 
detected.  With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for 
SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.


As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32 
bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host.  There used to 
be/should be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was 
for Opera when I had it installed.

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Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

NoOp wrote:

On 11/13/2009 06:04 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
You can only post to groups in e-s unless you are registered and authenticate. 
After that you can post anywhere, as you can from any other server.




Perhaps you missed:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn...@mozilla.org
(Thanks to Harmut for pointing out how to do that :-)

Again, my apologies.


And mine, you post linked before the one you note, and I replied immediately.

None of which gets me closer to a solution, I'm reasonably convinced that 
something in my options is causing SM to not even try a POST, but I'm a bit 
befuddled as to what.


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Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-14 Thread Ant

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? Just 
wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 
that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bill Davidsen:


Does this extra information give anyone a clue?


You should really provide a log of what happens between SM2 and eternal
when you try to post. One possibility is ngrep. Another one is
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging

I think I've said several times, I monitored the network interface with tcpdump, 
and no packets were passed, the UA rejected the request with the message seen, 
Check your config which is correct, at least for other servers and all servers 
on 1.1.18.


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Re: can no longer post in newsgroups

2009-11-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

with seamonkey 2


Your user agent certainly claims you can:
  User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.1.4)
  Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0

Want to share deails?

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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-14 Thread Bill Davidsen

Walter wrote:

William Morrison wrote:


Right click on one of these files, saved anywhere on you hard drive or 
disk drive, you want to open. The third option down is Open With 
click it and click it again in the next window then select the correct 
program to open it with and also check the box on the lower part of 
this window marked something like Use this Program to Open This File 
All of the Time



Bill

No luck there. I am beginning to think the setup I have is not 
recognizing the font file it requires. I have copied the font file to 
several places in SM but haven't found the correct one yet.




I assume Windows has a fonts directory. In Linux user fonts are in the .fonts 
directory of your $HOME. THere's a system directory, but I don't recall where it 
is, since fonts are generally sort of personal.


Someone is bound to post the directory name if you can't find it with Google.

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no uninstall function for zip of Mozilla 1.18

2009-11-14 Thread Pierre
Greetings!

I downloaded the zip file for Mozilla 1.18 to a folder where I keep
program downloads. When I unzipped it, it automatically installed
itself in this folder, but without an uninstall file to remove it.

Also, Windows XP Professional did not record it as an installed
program. Therefore it cannot be removed via the Windows Add/remove
Program function.

How to I uninstall this? Is the uninstall file hiding somewhere?

Thank You!

Pierre Tremblay
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Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bill Davidsen:

I think I've said several times, I monitored the network interface with 
tcpdump, 
and no packets were passed,

OK.

the UA

SM.

rejected the request with the message seen, Check your config

SM refuses to send with this message.

which is correct, at least for other servers and all servers 
on 1.1.18.

You mean, that you cannot see a false configuration. Sorry for
misunderstanding. Seems, that not only my writing skills for English are
bad but also my reading skills.

But there is also the possibility that you have not been clear enough. *eg*

|I have Fails for me about 2:1 over Works for me, but obviously it
|works for someone.

This belongs to eternal? 2 fails for 1 succeed? Or do you mean 2 other
newssevers are working correct and eternal fails?

But clearly you have problems with eternal despite of seemingly correct
settings. Here is what i would do in this case.

First identify the account which belongs to eternal by searching in the
prefs.js for eternal. In my case this would be mail.server.server4. Then
remove the account for eternal with Edit-Mail  Newsgroups Account
Settings-Remove Account.

Close SM and delete all traces of eternal in the profile. Especially the
folder News/news.eternal-september.org and the files
News/news.eternal-september.org.msf and
News/newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. Look into prefs.js, if all
references to server? are gone.

Start SM, open the Password Manager, select 'Manage Stored Passwords'
and delete the entries for eternal if existent.

Then create a new account for eternal.

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newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192
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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


Hi,

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no 
longer able to post in the newsgroups, after I deleted my 
news.mozilla.org account and recreated it, everything works fine 
here (but my other news.individual.de account still does not work, 
it seems that I have to recreate it, too.


CU

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Re: installed SeaMonkey 2 and most recent sent messages are lost :-(

2009-11-14 Thread Finrod

Daniel wrote:


Finrod, as I understand things, when you install SM 2.0, it goes looking
for your default profile and imports that into SM 2.0!

If you created yourself new profiles, up to two years ago, SM 2.0 will
not find them, just the default profile.

Do a system wide search for inbox (without the inverted commas) and
see how many you find. Your newer profiles will probably show up there.

Report back and maybe one of the Mac Experts here will tell you how to
maneuver the old profiles into your new set-up.


dear Daniel,

thanks for the reply! So far I've reinstalled the old 1.1.something and 
I've got all posts back... however it's the default profile (just 
renamed) the one with the missing posts... anyway, tomorrow I'll try to 
follow your advice, and report back. Thanks again


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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread JD

Nobody wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.


I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update but
Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you encounter?

Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?



Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
(sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to be/should
be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for Opera
when I had it installed.


On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2,  I can enable and disable the Seamonkey 
protection.


I don't use the Spybot S  D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave me 
a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and 
Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S  D is V 1.6.2.46


I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.

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Junk mail feature in 1.1.18

2009-11-14 Thread Marisa Ciceran
I have Windows XP Professional SP3 installed on an i17 PC that I 
purchased less than six months ago.


I was eager to upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.0, expecting that this long 
awaited major upgrade would be relatively bug-free. Instead, I had too 
many problems with the installation and its operation - not to mention I 
dislike the FireFox look/interface (icons, smileys, loss of trusted 
features), so have returned to Seakmonkey 1.1.18, but have run into a 
new problem.


I did a new installation to a new Program files folder, transferred to 
the new Profile folder under Application Data my previous bookmarks, 
addressbook, and password manager, as well as the archived mails, and 
made the switch of the .w and .s file numbers in the preferences file. I 
then created all the POP email accounts from scratch and activated all 
the junk mail options, but the incoming mails do not go through the junk 
mail options. The obvious junk mails neither get marked automatically as 
junk and get transferred to the junk folder, nor even after I mark them 
as junk manually.


I remember coming across this problem before - and I vaguely recall 
seeing a mention of a command line syntax change - but am unable to 
search the newsgroup for the answer. The already restricted SeaMonkey 
search feature (allows only a From and Subject search) for 
newsgroups does not work at all, returning this error A News (NNTP) 
error occurred: syntax error or unknown command.


While I am experiencing some other minor problems, the loss of the 
automatic junk mail filter is a major problem for me as I get hundreds 
of spam mails each day. Can anyone help me resolve the 
script/configuration problem?


Thank you.

Marisa



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Re: no uninstall function for zip of Mozilla 1.18

2009-11-14 Thread Mark Hansen

On 11/14/2009 10:05 AM, Pierre wrote:

Greetings!

I downloaded the zip file for Mozilla 1.18 to a folder where I keep
program downloads. When I unzipped it, it automatically installed
itself in this folder, but without an uninstall file to remove it.

Also, Windows XP Professional did not record it as an installed
program. Therefore it cannot be removed via the Windows Add/remove
Program function.

How to I uninstall this? Is the uninstall file hiding somewhere?

Thank You!

Pierre Tremblay


Just delete the directory where you extracted the zip file.
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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Mark Hansen

On 11/14/2009 10:26 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


Hi,

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no 
longer able to post in the newsgroups, after I deleted my 
news.mozilla.org account and recreated it, everything works fine 
here (but my other news.individual.de account still does not work, 
it seems that I have to recreate it, too.


CU

Rainer


Note that most all news servers include a test group for testing
purposes. For the news.mozilla.org news server, it is called mozilla.test,
among others.

FYI.

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SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-14 Thread Sandalin
I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more 
exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window) 
and immediately closes.

Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.

Win XP SP3

PLEASE HELP !!! 


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Re: SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-14 Thread chicagofan

Sandalin wrote:

I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more
exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window)
and immediately closes.

Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.

Win XP SP3

PLEASE HELP !!!




Quick Launch is gone in SM 2.0.  If you search this group for launch, 
you will see the previous discussions, about why it was dropped.

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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread JAS
JD wrote:
 Nobody wrote:
 JD wrote:
 Nobody wrote:
 I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
 support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.

 I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update but
 Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you encounter?

 Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?


 Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
 recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

 For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
 (sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
 Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
 detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
 SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

 As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
 bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to be/should
 be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for Opera
 when I had it installed.

 On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2,  I can enable and disable the Seamonkey
 protection.

 I don't use the Spybot S  D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave
 me a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and
 Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S  D is V 1.6.2.46

 I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.

I also am using Version 4.2 but it does not detect SM2.

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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-14 Thread me2
I appreciate your response Phil, I guess my surprise is that a feature
that's been with us this long should be declared out - I assume long
thought was given to doing that, deciding that 2.o's other
improvements outweighed waiting until form manger could be
rewritten/fixed.
It never occurred to me that a version of my favorite browser would
suddenly omit a feature, going back instead of forward.
I know that SM like  all mozillas relies on volunteers, and bless them
all for work that we all appreciate so much, and yes there is a but
coming-
I used all of SM- browser, mail,composer and sometimes chat.
I doubt anyone here really knows the customer base for the various
components, or how many now seeing form manger gone will just vote
with feet and use some other browser.

But thanks for the thought - I'll watch to see if someone kind soul
rides to the rescue-  and never again will I update a browser without
reading ALL the update notices .

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:57:38 +0800, Philip Chee
philip.c...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:05:54 -0600, me2 wrote:
 This thread seems to be winding down but I wanted to make one last
 plea for the restoration of form manager, if SM's only claim to fame
 is to slowly being reduced to were firefox and thunderbird
 combined, what's the point?
 Those of us who have been Netscape users forever use these little
 unimportant parts.
 I hope someone can rectify this situation,  but if not let me express
 my appreciation for all who over the years gave me a browser I
 loved...
 
 I'm sure I will miss it.

Nobody in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is against a restored Form Manager.
But just as I stepped forward and volunteered to implement customizable
toolbars (I'm a ERP/Business ReEngineering consultant), or Misak stepped
forward and volunteered to implement session restore (at that time he
was just a tech working on Cisco routers, or KaiRo stepping forward to
reimplement the XPFE style download manager window (despite at that time
being solely a web designer and didn't have much experience actually
working on SeaMonkey code). So we need someone to step forward and
volunteer to reimplement a Forms History Manager.

Phil
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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread JD

JAS wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.


I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update but
Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you encounter?

Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?



Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
(sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to be/should
be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for Opera
when I had it installed.


On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2,  I can enable and disable the Seamonkey
protection.

I don't use the Spybot S  D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave
me a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and
Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S  D is V 1.6.2.46

I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.


I also am using Version 4.2 but it does not detect SM2.



Perhaps both my programs are seeing the older version of SM still on 
this computer? Neither says Seamonkey 2, just Seamonkey.


And actually, SD is referring to an older SM profile. I'm not sure how 
to remove the older version of SM.


Add/Remove programs show both versions but SM1.1.18 appears to have no 
Size but 2.0 is 40.22MB in Size.


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Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Erwin Castellanos
It's a bug?

When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me the Save 
Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type: SeaMonkey 
Document. But if I do Copy Image and 
paste it in paint by instance, it works.


Here is the link for reference.:

http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?



  
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Re: SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-14 Thread Mark Hansen

On 11/14/2009 12:05 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Sandalin wrote:

I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more
exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window)
and immediately closes.

Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.

Win XP SP3

PLEASE HELP !!!




Quick Launch is gone in SM 2.0.  If you search this group for launch, 
you will see the previous discussions, about why it was dropped.

bj


The OP wasn't talking about quick launch. It sounds like they are trying
to launch the browser, and it is just terminating without opening any
visible windows.
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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Phillip Jones

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


See Comment I just added to your bug.

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Re: SM2 Profiles

2009-11-14 Thread Brian D. Symmes

Daniel wrote:

Richard wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Richard schrieb:

I upgraded to SM2 never thinking I would have a problem with my
multiple
profiles from SM 1.1.18 Oh Boy what a mistake, two days later and I
still cant figure this out.

What is the answer?


What is the question?
You have to migrate additional profiles manually:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
regards


snip


When SM 2.0 was installed, all it did was copy your SM 1.1.18 default
profile to where SM 2.0 wants its profile. Your SM 1.1.18 profile are
basically untouched and still available for you to use in SM 1.1.18.



Exactly ... but you will only find that out by reading the online help 
or one of the support group articles. It's not part of the install UI.



If you want to use your other SM 1.1.18 profiles in SM 2.0 (which
doesn't know about them, yet), you will have to migrate them across from
SM 1.1.18

HTH

Daniel


I started using Netscape Communicator at v. 4.71, and at this point the 
addressbook, password file, bookmarks, and email are as close to 
'essential as anything can be to my work life. So I understand the 
emotion when that information seems on the verge of being lost.


The thing to remember is that the change to the Firefox engine brings us 
forward to a better security layer and a faster rendering engine. Some 
changes have been forced upon Seamonkey because of this, but it's still 
a leap forward.
It's also important to remember that the features which users find most 
essential are the ones that impact their personal data. Profile 
management is not nearly as essential for a 'browser only' application 
like Firefox as it is for a 'internet suite' application like SeaMonkey. 
Pushing SeaMonkey into the Firefox system is overall a good thing, but 
losing features that affect the users is always a negative for the 
overall reputation of the software. This is the time to add some 
features to the installation process so the Firefox install package can 
pick up where Seamonkey left off.


IIRC, the old way (netscape) was that all profiles were copied over, and 
if you had one of the same name, the one being copied from the old 
version would have a suffix like 2 added to it. So that's always been 
the behavior I expected. The current install breaks this, and causes 
serious 'flop sweat' if you're in the middle of an email exchange with a 
customer, lose access to your email for a couple days, and you didn't 
read the online guide to installing 2.0 (all of which I did !:-/).


During the install, Seamonkey 2.0 only imports one profile, this is a 
loss of expected functionality. Also, you can do things to your profile 
which are quite alarming, Example;
1) Upgrade to 2.0, let it copy your default profile over, realize after 
the fact that all your business email is in the 'MyBusiness' profile
2) Delete 2.0, reinstall and copy the MyBusiness profile over, it's now 
the default profile.
3) By now you've read the online help and you try the command line 
method for running the profile manager. Maybe you overwrite the 
'MyBusiness' profile in 2.0 with the default profile from 1.1.8
At this point the relief upon finding out that your 1.1.8 profile is 
intact and unchanged is enormous, but you still struggle to wrap your 
head around the new (to you) profile management methods.


Re-read the instructions for manual profile migration and run the 
migration so it copies over the old profile name. Now you can move all 
profiles to the 2.0 install and have the same email, address book, 
bookmarks, and stored password data that you have on the old SeaMonkey.




Unfortunately Forms Manager did not make it to 2.0, so all your stored 
form data may be gone. I found it very useful when signing up for 
Webinars or email subscriptions because 90% of the data stayed the same 
and the form manager detected 80% of the forms correctly, which saved a 
lot of typing.


I've been a long time fan of SeaMonkey because I've always thought of 
the unified presentation of the applications that make up the Suite as 
the better way for the average non-developer, non-power user to work.


IOW It links chat, email, newsgroups, browsing and publishing in one 
pkg. that works out of the box. Some companies got into the habit of 
producing partially broken OS's and Browsers because it makes busy work 
for the IT dept. of their customers.  Only word of mouth spreads the 
support of Open Source products. That's why it is so much more important 
for OSS vendors to write better UI than the proprietary software providers.

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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Brian D. Symmes

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


Hi,

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no
longer able to post in the newsgroups, after I deleted my
news.mozilla.org account and recreated it, everything works fine here
(but my other news.individual.de account still does not work, it seems
that I have to recreate it, too.

CU

Rainer


Check that your default outgoing SMTP server matches the email address 
you are using to post with.


Brian
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-14 Thread asmpgmr
FYI - the removal of the form manager is a result of the migration
from the original wallet code to the newer satchel code. The form
manager was actually part of the password manager so if the 1.x form
manager could be ported to 2.0 then theoretically the original
password manager could be restored as well.
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Re: SM2 Profiles

2009-11-14 Thread Brian D. Symmes

Daniel wrote:

Richard wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Richard schrieb:

I upgraded to SM2 never thinking I would have a problem with my
multiple
profiles from SM 1.1.18 Oh Boy what a mistake, two days later and I
still cant figure this out.

What is the answer?


What is the question?
You have to migrate additional profiles manually:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
regards


snip


When SM 2.0 was installed, all it did was copy your SM 1.1.18 default
profile to where SM 2.0 wants its profile. Your SM 1.1.18 profile are
basically untouched and still available for you to use in SM 1.1.18.



Exactly ... but you will only find that out by reading the online help 
or one of the support group articles. It's not part of the install UI.



If you want to use your other SM 1.1.18 profiles in SM 2.0 (which
doesn't know about them, yet), you will have to migrate them across from
SM 1.1.18

HTH

Daniel


I started using Netscape Communicator at v. 4.71, and at this point the 
addressbook, password file, bookmarks, and email are as close to 
'essential as anything can be to my work life. So I understand the 
emotion when that information seems on the verge of being lost.


The thing to remember is that the change to the Firefox engine brings us 
forward to a better security layer and a faster rendering engine. Some 
changes have been forced upon Seamonkey because of this, but it's still 
a leap forward.
It's also important to remember that the features which users find most 
essential are the ones that impact their personal data. Profile 
management is not nearly as essential for a 'browser only' application 
like Firefox as it is for a 'internet suite' application like SeaMonkey. 
Pushing SeaMonkey into the Firefox system is overall a good thing, but 
losing features that affect the users is always a negative for the 
overall reputation of the software. This is the time to add some 
features to the installation process so the Firefox install package can 
pick up where Seamonkey left off.


IIRC, the old way (netscape) was that all profiles were copied over, and 
if you had one of the same name, the one being copied from the old 
version would have a suffix like 2 added to it. So that's always been 
the behavior I expected. The current install breaks this, and causes 
serious 'flop sweat' if you're in the middle of an email exchange with a 
customer, lose access to your email for a couple days, and you didn't 
read the online guide to installing 2.0 (all of which I did !:-/).


During the install, Seamonkey 2.0 only imports one profile, this is a 
loss of expected functionality. Also, you can do things to your profile 
which are quite alarming, Example;
1) Upgrade to 2.0, let it copy your default profile over, realize after 
the fact that all your business email is in the 'MyBusiness' profile
2) Delete 2.0, reinstall and copy the MyBusiness profile over, it's now 
the default profile.
3) By now you've read the online help and you try the command line 
method for running the profile manager. Maybe you overwrite the 
'MyBusiness' profile in 2.0 with the default profile from 1.1.8
At this point the relief upon finding out that your 1.1.8 profile is 
intact and unchanged is enormous, but you still struggle to wrap your 
head around the new (to you) profile management methods.


Re-read the instructions for manual profile migration and run the 
migration so it copies over the old profile name. Now you can move all 
profiles to the 2.0 install and have the same email, address book, 
bookmarks, and stored password data that you have on the old SeaMonkey.




Unfortunately Forms Manager did not make it to 2.0, so all your stored 
form data may be gone. I found it very useful when signing up for 
Webinars or email subscriptions because 90% of the data stayed the same 
and the form manager detected 80% of the forms correctly, which saved a 
lot of typing.


I've been a long time fan of SeaMonkey because I've always thought of 
the unified presentation of the applications that make up the Suite as 
the better way for the average non-developer, non-power user to work.


IOW It links chat, email, newsgroups, browsing and publishing in one 
pkg. that works out of the box. Some companies got into the habit of 
producing partially broken OS's and Browsers because it makes busy work 
for the IT dept. of their customers.  Only word of mouth spreads the 
support of Open Source products. That's why it is so much more important 
for OSS vendors to write better UI than the proprietary software providers.

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Re: Which Drive for Profile??

2009-11-14 Thread Leonidas Jones

Daniel wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

/snip/


Hey, Lee, if cciaffone has already let SM 2.0 put the profile where it
wanted, then manually moved it to where cciaffone wants it (somewhere on
the D:), shouldn't cciaffone just be able to use the Profile Manager to
create a new Profile and point it to where, on the D:, cciaffone moved
the profile??

I'm sure I've done this with SM 1.1.x, but will it work in the new set-up??

Daniel


It should. I've never done that, but if it worked in 1.1.18 it should 
work in 2.0.


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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Phillip Jones

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


Hi,

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no
longer able to post in the newsgroups, after I deleted my
news.mozilla.org account and recreated it, everything works fine
here (but my other news.individual.de account still does not work,
it seems that I have to recreate it, too.

CU

Rainer


Go to Mail and newsgroup setup from edit menu

Click on edit when edit window make sure use secure log in is checked.

I experienced the same thing on my Mac. I end up in this position after 
I manually removing the _msf_ files to newsgroups to clean up some 
strange problems (Massages being marked as read before I could get to 
read them and so on.). Its a bug once this is set it should not change 
for any reason unless you do so yourself



So it applies to Mac as well as PC its not just a PC issue.
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-14 Thread Phillip Jones

Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? Just
wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20
that SM v1.1.18 is based on.

Thank you in advance. :)



Afraid so. won't even be any new security fixes. They should hashed out 
 bugs for another 2 months. But SM 2 is here and this is what we have.


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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread JD

Erwin Castellanos wrote:

It's a bug?

When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me the Save 
Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type: SeaMonkey Document. But 
if I do Copy Image and
paste it in paint by instance, it works.


Here is the link for reference.:

http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?






When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the 
Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why it's 
not working for you.



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Re: SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-14 Thread chicagofan

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 11/14/2009 12:05 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Sandalin wrote:

I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more
exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window)
and immediately closes.

Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.

Win XP SP3


Quick Launch is gone in SM 2.0.  If you search this group for launch,
you will see the previous discussions, about why it was dropped.



The OP wasn't talking about quick launch. It sounds like they are trying
to launch the browser, and it is just terminating without opening any
visible windows.



I thought about that, after posting and then re-reading it the OP 
message, but didn't have a solution to offer.  :(


I did read some suggestions earlier to check administrative rights 
and/or firewall settings when facing this problem.  Others had this 
problem disappear after re-installing but he's already tried that.

bj
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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread Nobody

JD wrote:

JAS wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.


I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update
but
Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you encounter?

Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?



Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
(sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to
be/should
be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for
Opera
when I had it installed.


On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2, I can enable and disable the Seamonkey
protection.

I don't use the Spybot S D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave
me a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and
Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S D is V 1.6.2.46

I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.


I also am using Version 4.2 but it does not detect SM2.



Perhaps both my programs are seeing the older version of SM still on
this computer? Neither says Seamonkey 2, just Seamonkey.

And actually, SD is referring to an older SM profile. I'm not sure how
to remove the older version of SM.


As both S'Blaster and Spybot are looking for their nasties in one's 
profile, I would suspect it's your old profile that's being found and 
tested.


When I'd run SM 2.0 for a couple of days flawlessly, I uninstalled the 
1.1.18 version, along with the old profile.




Add/Remove programs show both versions but SM1.1.18 appears to have no
Size but 2.0 is 40.22MB in Size.



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Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

2009-11-14 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 13/11/2009 16:53, Rex told the world:

 You'll find most people here have done the opposite. I've been on FF 
 since the time it was known as Phoenix, and TB a little less than that.
 I still miss Firefox, but I love the mail-browser integration of 
 Seamonkey. And Seamonkey 2.0 uses the same codebase as Firefox and 
 Thunderbird, which is why you're seeing similarities.
 And yes..extensions are what I miss the most. Many popular extensions 
 are yet to be ported to Seamonkey..if at all.

OTOH, now that Seamonkey's codebase is so close to that of FF+TB, in
many, many cases the effort to port an extension to SM2 is trivial --
while in the old codebase, the programmer had to do include code needed
only for Seamonkey. In some cases, an entire separate version ended up
being written. Some extension developers stopped supporting Seamonkey at
some point, leaving only old, outdated versions to SM users.

So... my expectation is that, although *right now* there is some dearth
of Seamonkey-compatible extensions, in a couple months there will be
more than ever. For instance, the upgrade to SM2 already allows me to
use the new version of DownThemAll, which does more stuff than the old,
SM1-compatible version.

The only thing I'll have to do without for a while is Multizilla --
which was *never* available for Firefox, by the way. But the developer
has stated an intention of finishing the Suiterunner port he started
sometime last year -- only, he's too busy with his RL job right now, so
it will take some time.

SM2 is not perfect, of course. Some changes in behavior annoy the hell
of me -- but I'm not sure if those are real changes or it's just that I
got so used to Multizilla I don't even remember the default behavior for
Mozilla/Seamonkey. So I'm having to unlearn some habits... for now.
Still, I'm not ready to leave SM for Firefox; in fact, now that there's
a Portable SM2, I'll probably switch my PortableApps flash drive to
Seamonkey too.

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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread JD

Nobody wrote:

JD wrote:

JAS wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.


I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update
but
Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you
encounter?

Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?



Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
(sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to
be/should
be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for
Opera
when I had it installed.


On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2, I can enable and disable the Seamonkey
protection.

I don't use the Spybot S D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave
me a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and
Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S D is V 1.6.2.46

I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.


I also am using Version 4.2 but it does not detect SM2.



Perhaps both my programs are seeing the older version of SM still on
this computer? Neither says Seamonkey 2, just Seamonkey.

And actually, SD is referring to an older SM profile. I'm not sure how
to remove the older version of SM.


As both S'Blaster and Spybot are looking for their nasties in one's
profile, I would suspect it's your old profile that's being found and
tested.

When I'd run SM 2.0 for a couple of days flawlessly, I uninstalled the
1.1.18 version, along with the old profile.



Add/Remove programs show both versions but SM1.1.18 appears to have no
Size but 2.0 is 40.22MB in Size.





Guess we'll have to wait for S'Blaster and SD to update their programs.


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Profile Locatios in SM 2.x and Windows 7

2009-11-14 Thread R.S. Chandgie
On the Mozilla/SM web site, The 'System Requirements' page lists Windows 
7 as one of the operating systems for SM 2.x. However, nowhere on the 
site can I find where the default Profile Folder is installed. The 
locations are listed for other OS as follows:


/This data is stored in your /profile folder/, which is located in one 
of the following locations depending on your operating system:

/
Windows Vista   Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003 	Documents and 
Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey

Mac OS X~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey
Linux and Unix systems  ~/.mozilla/seamonkey


Can someone tell me where the Profile Folder is installed in Windows 7? 
SM 2.x will be installed on a new laptop that has no previous edition of 
SM on it.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks, Bob
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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread Phillip Jones

JD wrote:

Erwin Castellanos wrote:

It's a bug?

When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me the Save 
Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type: SeaMonkey Document. But 
if I do Copy Image and
paste it in paint by instance, it works.


Here is the link for reference.:

http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?






When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why it's
not working for you.


Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save  image in jpeg(jpg), 
giff (gif), png,  Pdf, and other formats.


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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-14 Thread JAS
JD wrote:
 JAS wrote:
 JD wrote:
 Nobody wrote:
 JD wrote:
 Nobody wrote:
 I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
 support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.

 I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no
 update but
 Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you
 encounter?

 Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?


 Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
 recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

 For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
 (sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
 Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
 detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
 SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

 As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
 bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to
 be/should
 be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for
 Opera
 when I had it installed.

 On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2,  I can enable and disable the Seamonkey
 protection.

 I don't use the Spybot S  D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave
 me a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and
 Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S  D is V 1.6.2.46

 I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.

 I also am using Version 4.2 but it does not detect SM2.


 Perhaps both my programs are seeing the older version of SM still on
 this computer? Neither says Seamonkey 2, just Seamonkey.

 And actually, SD is referring to an older SM profile. I'm not sure
 how to remove the older version of SM.

 Add/Remove programs show both versions but SM1.1.18 appears to have no
 Size but 2.0 is 40.22MB in Size.

I just renamed my Mozilla and older Seamonkey folders in Programs,
Mozilla.org and also the old profiles in the application folder-you can
rename to the original for them to work again.

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Re: Profile Locatios in SM 2.x and Windows 7

2009-11-14 Thread Carl Kaufmann

R.S. Chandgie wrote:

On the Mozilla/SM web site, The 'System Requirements' page lists Windows
7 as one of the operating systems for SM 2.x. However, nowhere on the
site can I find where the default Profile Folder is installed. The
locations are listed for other OS as follows:

/This data is stored in your /profile folder/, which is located in one
of the following locations depending on your operating system:
/
Windows Vista   Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003   Documents and
Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
Mac OS X~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey
Linux and Unix systems  ~/.mozilla/seamonkey


Can someone tell me where the Profile Folder is installed in Windows 7?
SM 2.x will be installed on a new laptop that has no previous edition of
SM on it.
Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks, Bob


Same place as Vista.

Carl
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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Walter wrote:

William Morrison wrote:


Right click on one of these files, saved anywhere on you hard drive 
or disk drive, you want to open. The third option down is Open With 
click it and click it again in the next window then select the 
correct program to open it with and also check the box on the lower 
part of this window marked something like Use this Program to Open 
This File All of the Time



Bill

No luck there. I am beginning to think the setup I have is not 
recognizing the font file it requires. I have copied the font file to 
several places in SM but haven't found the correct one yet.




I assume Windows has a fonts directory. In Linux user fonts are in the 
.fonts directory of your $HOME. THere's a system directory, but I don't 
recall where it is, since fonts are generally sort of personal.


Someone is bound to post the directory name if you can't find it with 
Google.


Well, in WinXP it's under C:\WINNT\Fonts\ (too obvious?), but if the 
problem is that SM is trying to read a file it should refer to a 
different program, fixing a putative font issue won't help. As Walter 
said earlier, it should be calling TablEdit, not trying to open the file 
itself.


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Re: Profile Locatios in SM 2.x and Windows 7

2009-11-14 Thread Phillip Jones

R.S. Chandgie wrote:

On the Mozilla/SM web site, The 'System Requirements' page lists Windows
7 as one of the operating systems for SM 2.x. However, nowhere on the
site can I find where the default Profile Folder is installed. The
locations are listed for other OS as follows:

/This data is stored in your /profile folder/, which is located in one
of the following locations depending on your operating system:
/
Windows Vista   Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003   Documents and
Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
Mac OS X~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey
Linux and Unix systems  ~/.mozilla/seamonkey


Can someone tell me where the Profile Folder is installed in Windows 7?
SM 2.x will be installed on a new laptop that has no previous edition of
SM on it.
Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks, Bob


there is a a slight mistake in the Mac reference.

There are three libraries, on Mac OSX.

The main Library,is located when you first double click or open the hard 
drive.


Then there is a Library located in Username (username  being you gave as 
your account say you name for example or  hoby, or whatever, example: 
JohnDoughe  Library  )


Then there is a Library in the System Folder.

the proper library Should be Hard drive name/username/Application 
Support/SeaMonkey


There actually is an Application support  Directory in both the Main 
and user Libraries


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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread erwincas
On Nov 14, 6:32 pm, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:
 JD wrote:
  Erwin Castellanos wrote:
  It's a bug?

  When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me the 
  Save Image dialog box but instead of the
  image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type: SeaMonkey 
  Document. But if I do Copy Image and
  paste it in paint by instance, it works.

  Here is the link for reference.:

 http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

  Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?

  When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
  Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why it's
  not working for you.

 Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save  image in jpeg(jpg),
 giff (gif), png,  Pdf, and other formats.

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This is a problem on PC (win xp pro) in jpg format, but maybe is my SM
installation, 'cause I was using SM 1.1.18 the upgrade it to SM 2.0
RC1, RC2 and finaly to 2.0, I will do a fresh install and see what
happend.
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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-14 Thread JD

Phillip Jones wrote:

JD wrote:

Erwin Castellanos wrote:

It's a bug?

When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me
the Save Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type:
SeaMonkey Document. But if I do Copy Image and
paste it in paint by instance, it works.


Here is the link for reference.:

http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?






When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why it's
not working for you.



Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save image in jpeg(jpg),
giff (gif), png, Pdf, and other formats.



Wow, my SM2 is on a Windows XP (a PC) and the .jpg is the only option.

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Re: Incoming mail gone

2009-11-14 Thread Serge Popper

Serge Popper wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:
Installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 a couple of weeks ago and have had no 
problems until tonight.  When I started SeaMonkey, my incoming mail 
folder opened normally but was not downloading my new mail.  I 
clicked on the get messages and a little widow opened saying 
something like working on this folder, please wait.  I waited a good 
while, nothing happened. I rebooted, tried again, no luck.  I 
downloaded and reinstalled a fresh copy of SeaMonkey.  Now there are 
no messages showing at all in my inbox folder. All other functions 
work OK, all other folders are accessible, browser shows no problem.

Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks


Serge, did the original message in the window say that you cannot 
download new mail into the inbox because it was being compacted??


When you delete an email, it is not really deleted from the inbox 
file, just part of the header information is changed to make it not 
show in the list of mail in your inbox. When you File|Compact Files 
the deleted message is actually removed from the inbox file.


At times, you may get a conflict between SM trying to download mail 
and SM trying to automatically compact the inbox because of the 
setting at the bottom of the page at 
Edit|Preferences|MailNewsgroup|OfflineDisk Space.


When you have SM running, have a look at Edit|MailNewsgroup Account 
Settings and select the Server Settings part of your mail account. 
At the bottom of this screen, there is the location of the Local 
Directory. Note the location as this is where SeaMonkey thinks your 
profile is.


Close SeaMonkey, go make yourself a cuppa, then do Crtl-Alt-Delete and 
see if SeaMonkey is still showing as running. If it is, End Task on it.


Do a Windows Find File/Folder looking for inbox without the inverted 
commas. The inbox is the file that SeaMonkey stores your incoming mail 
in. If you find more than one inbox, your lost mail may be in one of 
the other accounts.


Report back with results and if you find other inboxes, someone here 
can tell you how to get all your mail into one location.


HTH

Daniel
Daniel, thanks for the great explanation.  I'm just recuperating from 
Swine Flu and have little energy for anything.  I'll do what you suggest 
and report back.

Again, thanks.
Serge


Daniel, I've done what you suggested above and have unearthed an 
interesting array of files when I did my search for inbox)
The location of the Local Directory is C:\DOCUMENTS AND 
SETTINGS\POPPER\APPLICATIONDATA\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com


None of the files found in the search include the file above.
I don't know how to list the files found in the search on this email.
Thanks,
Serge
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Re: opening .eml files in seamonkey mail-window

2009-11-14 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

seam...@taz.de wrote:

Hi,
Does anybody know how to convince seamonkey to open .eml-files not in 
the browser-, but in the mail-window?

Thanks for tipps and for the work of the seamonkey-developpers.
Gerd
Open via Browser-window File | Open_File = open in an existing 
browser-window

Mail-window + File |Open | Saved_Message... = open in a new Mail-window
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-14 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? Just 
 wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 
 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.

When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? Just 
wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 
that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil



So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a 
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3? 
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that 
particular disastrous version.


Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?
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