Re: seamonkey 2.0.1 mail crashing
I have just done exactly what Bob Fleischer did - deleting one entry from my address books each and now Seamonkey is working again. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: /snip/ /snip/ I suspect its a labeling mismatch, probably due to the difference in naming between SM and FF. In SM it has always been the Personal Toolbar, going back to Moz Suite days, in FF, its been the Bookmarks toolbar as long as I can remember. Lee That's what I seem to recall...and that there is also a Personal Items or Personal Bookmarks folder included by default in a newly created Profile - right? Personal Toolbar Folder in my profile. Lee That's what I have too. And I also have a Personal Bookmarks folder that I believe is a default include. But SM is acting properly, even though the menu item says one thing and the folder says another. Not being a code-head, I assume there's a pointer which isn't dependent on the folder name? Seeing as it's working...or should the installer/migration have renamed it? Oh - and with 2.0.1, the previous grayed out empty items in my Bookmarks list under 2.0 went away. On Mac Version of SM 2/2.0.1 The personal Toolbar Shows as Personal Tool Bar when you go to Bookmark Menu and choose Manage Bookmarks and also on the View Menu it shows as Personal Toolbar. Must be a PC thing. Actually for what it does it should be named Personal Toolbar. Why? because it a Place you want to personally keep up with every day or keep at the ready for added convenience. On FireFox it is called Bookmarks bar in both places. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:14:55 -0800, Leonidas Jones wrote: I suspect its a labeling mismatch, probably due to the difference in naming between SM and FF. In SM it has always been the Personal Toolbar, going back to Moz Suite days, in FF, its been the Bookmarks toolbar as long as I can remember. As far as I know in Firefox it is still officially called the Personal Toolbar although of course most users refer to it as the Bookmarks toolbar. Phil No, in 3.5.6 its called Bookmarks Bar which is confusing and redundant in a way. Inside Bookmarks Folder directory; is a Bookmarks Bar? FF 3.5.6 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:48:31 +1100, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: fel wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:16:19 -0800, Rufusn...@home.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: I understand the risks involved with fooling around with about:config if one doesn't know what one is doing...workarounds are fine for experienced users, but not for the masses. Absolutely. Us masses just make our changes directly in prefs.js. But seriously, I wonder just how dumbed down you think that a computer should be. Us masses should not even be, directly, touching prefs.js!! Make the changes in user.js and let SM copy them into prefs.js!! That, sir, is your opinion. I do not share it. Assuming that aspect (user.js/prefs.js) works the same way it used to. It is totally unnecessary because prefs.js is called into memory and drags user.js with it, hence, the changes -- or the errors -- *effectively* are part of the mother memory file -- which happens to have started as the textual file prefs.js. I would not tell the elderly lady across the street to open prefs.js in her favorite editor (as if she had one or knew what it was), but I have no problem with doing so myself, if necessary. I normally make the changes desired in the about:config utility. *PRIOR* to it's existence -- and that may go back to Netscape, I don't know nor care -- i did make changes in prefs.js. I do not consider myself part of a priesthood, I consider myself part of the masses. Now, it is my opinion that those who make statements like you did above must consider themselves to be several cuts above the 'masses'. A bit like a counselor/teacher in a daycare school of infants in concept. If you want to keep it a secret, compile it with a proprietary compiler -- and then you can bet that someone is going to find a way to decompile it. Do you disagree? (This microcosm leads to a larger subject, but I don't think I will broach that in this thread) jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
On 27.12.2009 23:55, Ken Rudolph wrote: --- Original Message --- I have to say that last week I experienced the identical BSOD to the above while running SM 2.0.1. It's one of the only times in 28 years of running DOS and Windows on 11 different computers that this has happened. It hasn't recurred so far and my fingers are crossed. Interesting .. 28 years puts you at 1981, six years *prior* to the release of Windows 2.0 ... :-D And of course MS-DOS IBM PC Compatible was released in 1981 but didn't produce any BSOD's that I can remember. And in fact I still have a NEW copy of MS-DOS first release in a sealed box as well as Windows 2.0 in a new sealed box. Hmmm, eBAY ?? :-) Followup set to .general -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.0.1 mail crashing
On 28.12.2009 03:31, Babatunde Gbolade wrote: --- Original Message --- I have just done exactly what Bob Fleischer did - deleting one entry from my address books each and now Seamonkey is working again. What was the question, please quote here .. thanks. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
Jay Garcia wrote: On 27.12.2009 23:55, Ken Rudolph wrote: --- Original Message --- I have to say that last week I experienced the identical BSOD to the above while running SM 2.0.1. It's one of the only times in 28 years of running DOS and Windows on 11 different computers that this has happened. It hasn't recurred so far and my fingers are crossed. Interesting .. 28 years puts you at 1981, six years *prior* to the release of Windows 2.0 ... :-D And of course MS-DOS IBM PC Compatible was released in 1981 but didn't produce any BSOD's that I can remember. And in fact I still have a NEW copy of MS-DOS first release in a sealed box as well as Windows 2.0 in a new sealed box. Hmmm, eBAY ?? :-) Followup set to .general Given a choice of MSDOS or Windows if all applications would work on both systems I would chose DOS in a heart beat. :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: /snip/ /snip/ I suspect its a labeling mismatch, probably due to the difference in naming between SM and FF. In SM it has always been the Personal Toolbar, going back to Moz Suite days, in FF, its been the Bookmarks toolbar as long as I can remember. Lee That's what I seem to recall...and that there is also a Personal Items or Personal Bookmarks folder included by default in a newly created Profile - right? Personal Toolbar Folder in my profile. Lee That's what I have too. And I also have a Personal Bookmarks folder that I believe is a default include. But SM is acting properly, even though the menu item says one thing and the folder says another. Not being a code-head, I assume there's a pointer which isn't dependent on the folder name? Seeing as it's working...or should the installer/migration have renamed it? Oh - and with 2.0.1, the previous grayed out empty items in my Bookmarks list under 2.0 went away. On Mac Version of SM 2/2.0.1 The personal Toolbar Shows as Personal Tool Bar when you go to Bookmark Menu and choose Manage Bookmarks and also on the View Menu it shows as Personal Toolbar. Must be a PC thing. Actually for what it does it should be named Personal Toolbar. Why? because it a Place you want to personally keep up with every day or keep at the ready for added convenience. On FireFox it is called Bookmarks bar in both places. Agreed. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
John wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 27.12.2009 23:55, Ken Rudolph wrote: --- Original Message --- I have to say that last week I experienced the identical BSOD to the above while running SM 2.0.1. It's one of the only times in 28 years of running DOS and Windows on 11 different computers that this has happened. It hasn't recurred so far and my fingers are crossed. Interesting .. 28 years puts you at 1981, six years *prior* to the release of Windows 2.0 ... :-D And of course MS-DOS IBM PC Compatible was released in 1981 but didn't produce any BSOD's that I can remember. And in fact I still have a NEW copy of MS-DOS first release in a sealed box as well as Windows 2.0 in a new sealed box. Hmmm, eBAY ?? :-) Followup set to .general Given a choice of MSDOS or Windows if all applications would work on both systems I would chose DOS in a heart beat. :) OH, so would I in a heartbeat! :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to change hot keys in SM2?
Ant wrote: Is there a way to change/disable these keys? Edit the source code and recompile it. (Isn't Open Source Software great?) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
In qi6dnwi9a_tfaaxwnz2dnuvz_i1i4...@mozilla.org, on 12/28/09 at 01:11 PM, chicagofan m...@privacy.net said: And of course MS-DOS IBM PC Compatible was released in 1981 but didn't produce any BSOD's that I can remember. And in fact I still have a NEW copy of MS-DOS first release in a sealed box as well as Windows 2.0 in a new sealed box. Hmmm, eBAY ?? :-) Followup set to .general Given a choice of MSDOS or Windows if all applications would work on both systems I would chose DOS in a heart beat. :) OH, so would I in a heartbeat! :) OS/2 would be even better, had IBM not given up on it. Alan -- -- ** Please use address alanh77[at]comcast.net to reply via e-mail. ** Posted using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 and eComStation 1.2R -- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to change hot keys in SM2?
Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:55:55 -0800, /Ant/: I am a keyboard guy and sometimes accidently press ctrl-q (meant to press w; doesn't even prompt to exit for sure or not when I have multiple tab sessions and windows opened) and ctrl-e (meant to press w or r) by accident. Is there a way to change/disable these keys? I know there's a keyconfig extension: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keyconfig_extension I have never tried it myself, though. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.0.1 mail crashing
Babatunde Gbolade wrote: I have just done exactly what Bob Fleischer did - deleting one entry from my address books each and now Seamonkey is working again. How did you know which one to remove ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where does Seamonky put updates?
Martin Freitag wrote: rob schrieb: On 12/21/2009 12:48 PM, Martin Freitag wrote: I would try to download the full installer and just install it into the same directory where SM2 already is (while SM is closed of course) regards Martin Did that and it didn't help My next step would be the installation to a new directory but using the old profile with it afterward. regards Martin I think the Update director is lurking somewhere in my Windows Profile. I'm going to try and find it and nuke it. I'll ignore the message until then. -- Rob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.0.1 Printing Emails as Garbage
When I started using 2.0 I on Windows XP found that on some of my printers SeaMonkey would not print correctly. It printed garbage. It would also show the garbage in print preview. I dug around and found this was apparently an unresolved, know issue with Thunderbird and appeared to be related to old print drivers. Mostly it appears to be PCL 6 drivers. I dug through the Internet and found the latest drivers for all of my printers and installed them. The problem apparently went away. After I updated to 2.0.1 I started having problems again. This time the problem are more random and unpredictable. I have determined that Print Preview will accurately show what is going to be printer. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Are there any know bugs or fixes for it? -- Rob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
jim wrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:48:31 +1100, Danield...@albury.nospam.net.au in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: fel wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:16:19 -0800, Rufusn...@home.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: I understand the risks involved with fooling around with about:config if one doesn't know what one is doing...workarounds are fine for experienced users, but not for the masses. Absolutely. Us masses just make our changes directly in prefs.js. But seriously, I wonder just how dumbed down you think that a computer should be. Us masses should not even be, directly, touching prefs.js!! Make the changes in user.js and let SM copy them into prefs.js!! That, sir, is your opinion. I do not share it. Assuming that aspect (user.js/prefs.js) works the same way it used to. It is totally unnecessary because prefs.js is called into memory and drags user.js with it, hence, the changes -- or the errors -- *effectively* are part of the mother memory file -- which happens to have started as the textual file prefs.js. I would not tell the elderly lady across the street to open prefs.js in her favorite editor (as if she had one or knew what it was), ...but she *IS* part of the masses, so she is exactly whom you *ARE* advocating to fiddle with prefs.js! but I have no problem with doing so myself, if necessary. I normally make the changes desired in the about:config utility. *PRIOR* to it's existence -- and that may go back to Netscape, I don't know nor care -- i did make changes in prefs.js. I do not consider myself part of a priesthood, I consider myself part of the masses. Now, it is my opinion that those who make statements like you did above must consider themselves to be several cuts above the 'masses'. A bit like a counselor/teacher in a daycare school of infants in concept. If you want to keep it a secret, compile it with a proprietary compiler -- and then you can bet that someone is going to find a way to decompile it. Do you disagree? (This microcosm leads to a larger subject, but I don't think I will broach that in this thread) jim No, Sir, I do not agree, but am merely suggesting that those that are unsure, or who just don't have a clue, should not fiddle where they can, inadvertently, do damage to to the programs operation!! The programs designers have given us (you, me, and the unsure) the safer method, so why not use it and promote its use! -- Seasons greeting, one and all and may next year be a better one! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newest 2.01 Version
I noticed the ability to 'detach' attachments for mail containing such. Is there a way to pre-designate a attachment drop folder (behavior adopted from Eudora - like)? My bosses having recently been disowned by the old Eudora have been looking at a mail handler replacement. I convinced them that it is rare to find one that would import eudora profiles like Mozilla's suites could and they are very particular to some hold-over behaviours of the old Eudora (Like this 'detachment folder') also address groupings from eudora. Does this new version do either? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:22:55 -0600, John jmcken...@cableone.net wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: I switched back from 2.01 because it MAY have been the culprit that caused my system to crash 6 times in the last 2 months (after I moved to 2.0). Crashes were immediate appearance of a full blue screen with white text stating memory had been dumped and a cold boot is required - bad!! I've not seen one of those for years but I was in SeaMonkey when the last 2 happened - I don't remember about the first 4 times. I had no trouble reinstalling 1.18 - first uninstalled 2.01 and then did 1.18 - and it fired right up with its profile. I have had to do a number of little things to bring stuff up to date from the 10/29 date in the old profile directory. Side benefit - password insertion should work decently again. [grin] you should be able to look at event viewer and find out what caused the problems--look for Red X's What/where is Event Viewer? Hard to iimagine anything would be avaiilable to indicate what happend just prior to the crash. Only logical source would the the few lines of code (binary?) the BSOD displayed after it did a RAM dump. (I still want to call it a core dump!!!) JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
On 12/28/2009 10:07 AM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 27.12.2009 23:55, Ken Rudolph wrote: --- Original Message --- I have to say that last week I experienced the identical BSOD to the above while running SM 2.0.1. It's one of the only times in 28 years of running DOS and Windows on 11 different computers that this has happened. It hasn't recurred so far and my fingers are crossed. Interesting .. 28 years puts you at 1981, six years *prior* to the release of Windows 2.0 ... :-D And of course MS-DOS IBM PC Compatible was released in 1981 but didn't produce any BSOD's that I can remember. And in fact I still have a NEW copy of MS-DOS first release in a sealed box as well as Windows 2.0 in a new sealed box. Hmmm, eBAY ?? :-) Followup set to .general Reminds me of when I got out of the Air Force, job ads were asking for people with 5 years experience on the IBM 360-30. That was in 1968, and the 360-30 came out in 1964. sigh. -- Ron Hunter - rphun...@charter.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:22:55 -0600, Johnjmcken...@cableone.net wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: /snip/ you should be able to look at event viewer and find out what caused the problems--look for Red X's What/where is Event Viewer? Hard to iimagine anything would be avaiilable to indicate what happend just prior to the crash. Only logical source would the the few lines of code (binary?) the BSOD displayed after it did a RAM dump. (I still want to call it a core dump!!!) JohnW-Mpls http://www.liutilities.com/articles/what-is-windows-event-viewer/ Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
On 09-12-28 11:07 AM, Jay Garcia wrote: Followup set to .general Just a note to anyone replying to Jay's post: Jay put mozilla.general in the newsgroups header, not the followup-to header, so your replies will still show up in mozilla.support.seamonkey. If you reply, make sure you remove mozilla.support.seamonkey from the newsgroups header. Thanks. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia Keeper of the Knowledge Base: https://support.mozilla.com/kb/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:22:55 -0600, John jmcken...@cableone.net wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: I switched back from 2.01 because it MAY have been the culprit that caused my system to crash 6 times in the last 2 months (after I moved to 2.0). Crashes were immediate appearance of a full blue screen with white text stating memory had been dumped and a cold boot is required - bad!! I've not seen one of those for years but I was in SeaMonkey when the last 2 happened - I don't remember about the first 4 times. I had no trouble reinstalling 1.18 - first uninstalled 2.01 and then did 1.18 - and it fired right up with its profile. I have had to do a number of little things to bring stuff up to date from the 10/29 date in the old profile directory. Side benefit - password insertion should work decently again. [grin] you should be able to look at event viewer and find out what caused the problems--look for Red X's What/where is Event Viewer? Hard to iimagine anything would be avaiilable to indicate what happend just prior to the crash. Only logical source would the the few lines of code (binary?) the BSOD displayed after it did a RAM dump. (I still want to call it a core dump!!!) JohnW-Mpls control Panel-Administrative-Tools-event Viewer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newest 2.01 Version
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:01:16 -0800 (PST), Douglas Holmes wrote: I noticed the ability to 'detach' attachments for mail containing such. Is there a way to pre-designate a attachment drop folder (behavior adopted from Eudora - like)? My bosses having recently been disowned by the old Eudora have been looking at a mail handler replacement. I convinced them that it is rare to find one that would import eudora profiles like Mozilla's suites could and they are very particular to some hold-over behaviours of the old Eudora (Like this 'detachment folder') also address groupings from eudora. How about the *new* Eudora 8 betas (Based on Thunderbird 3.0)? Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
