Re: One other thing

[Jane Galt]

Daniel   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail,
>> which I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I want,
>> is this: 
>>
>> I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I
>> want to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT
>> email, j...@domain1
>>
>> If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from
>> that address.
>>
>> ( one is home and one is my home business actually )
>>
>> Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way,
>> but it wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if
>> it doesnt. 
>>
>> The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
>> Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it
>> too? 
>>
>> What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!
>>
>> ( I know, after all this...  )
>>
> 
> Give it a go Jane!! Set yourself up with two e-mail profiles (Edit->Mail
> & Newsgroup Account Settings->Add Account)

Not in SM, right? No "Add account" there.


> 
> Then you can set each account to have its own "From:" address.
> 
> (If I were you, I'd set SeaMonkey to download copies (i.e. leave the 
> originals on your web mail site) at least until you are sure SM will do 
> what you want!!)
> 
> HTH
> 
> Daniel
> 



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SeaMonkey + Java +Windows

[NoOp]

Will messing about with Win7 trying to prove to Jane that Pegasus &
SeaMonkey can co-exist, I decided to "update" Win7 today. When I fired
up SeaMonkey I got an warning about a java plugin that should be
disabled. Anyway, I eventually ended up here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558584
and here:
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/886582


So if any of you windows users are using outdated java, now would be a
good time to update. Additional links/info (much outdated as of today by
might be interesting reads):

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/09/critical_java_vulnerability/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002530-245.html?tag=mncol;title


Oddly enough, I can't find any notice of this on:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/
why?
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Re: WMP

[Phillip Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 4/20/2010 12:01 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

...

To defeat sniffing, use any of the various extensions that allow you to
spoof Firefox.  For an explanation of "spoofing", see my
.


You can do that, but it's one more thing to track, update, etc. You can also go
into about:config and select "useragent" in the select box. Right click and
define a new string value called general.useragent.extra.firefox with a string
value of "NOT Firefox/3.5.3" (or 3.0.11 for 1.1.xx). This will cause sniffinf
for firefox to match and everything to work. And you need no extensions to 
maintain.



I think that instead you'd want to add:
general.useragent.extra.firefox
and set the string accordingly.

However I ran across a site this weekend that didn't accept even that.
So I ended up putting this in the string instead:
Firefox/3.6.3 (NOT - it's  really SeaMonkey! Stop browser sniffing)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Firefox/3.6.3 (NOT - it's  really SeaMonkey!
Stop browser sniffing) Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.4

That worked. Site is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx

WRT David's point; it's not always possible, or easy, to train someone
using SeaMonkey to try a prebar or other such spoofing client. Most of
the time I'd just rather use general.useragent.extra.firefox and be done
with it as I don't really have time to investigate why a website is
working with Firefox&  not with SeaMonkey.


I have prefbar installed and the two times I've tried spoofing through 
it has caused a crash of SM

UA switcher does a Far better job.

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Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times

[flyguy]

Daniel wrote:

flyguy wrote:




Taking a closer look, I can see the biggest one is the Trash at ~7000
messages. That's with a 60 day retention period. The Inbox is only 200,
but at times gets closer to 1000; again, a 60 day retention policy. She
belongs to a number of busy sewing and quilting groups, which are
filtered to individual folders, but she deletes most of those messages,
so they don't build up.

As long as I remember to compact manually now and then when she's not at
her desk, then usually no complaints. This last one was probably due to
an ISP quirk, and not the compacting.


Why does anyone want to store (i.e. keep) anything in the Trash
folder...for one day let alone 60 days??

Make yourself/your Wife some extra folders to store the data in!!


It's not be "stored" in the Trash, it's "deferred deletion" like the 
Recycle Bin. If you haven't needed it after 60 days, you can probably 
live without it, and the system does finally automatically delete it. 
She does save messages she wants to keep in various folders.


Personally, I pull stuff out of the Trash a few times a month, sometimes 
to save, sometimes because a situation I thought was over comes back to 
life, but usually just remind myself of something. I use a 90 day 
retention period, which is satisfactory 99.99% of the time. Very rarely, 
not even once a year, I might have to go to a mail backup file and find 
what I've after.

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Re: Visual display query in Seamonkey MailNews

[Robert Traynor]

Thanks, I will change the setting later.
Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
21 April 2010   11:47


Hartmut Figge wrote:

Robert Traynor:


But now the fresh install of SeaMonkey on the left side:-
"mozilla.support.seamonkey" appears as "m.s.seamonkey"


- user.js -
user_pref("mail.server.default.abbreviate", false);
---

or via about:config.

Hartmut


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Re: WMP

[NoOp]

On 4/20/2010 12:01 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
...
>> To defeat sniffing, use any of the various extensions that allow you to
>> spoof Firefox.  For an explanation of "spoofing", see my
>> .
>> 
> You can do that, but it's one more thing to track, update, etc. You can also 
> go 
> into about:config and select "useragent" in the select box. Right click and 
> define a new string value called general.useragent.extra.firefox with a 
> string 
> value of "NOT Firefox/3.5.3" (or 3.0.11 for 1.1.xx). This will cause sniffinf 
> for firefox to match and everything to work. And you need no extensions to 
> maintain.
> 

I think that instead you'd want to add:
general.useragent.extra.firefox
and set the string accordingly.

However I ran across a site this weekend that didn't accept even that.
So I ended up putting this in the string instead:
Firefox/3.6.3 (NOT - it's  really SeaMonkey! Stop browser sniffing)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Firefox/3.6.3 (NOT - it's  really SeaMonkey!
Stop browser sniffing) Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.4

That worked. Site is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx

WRT David's point; it's not always possible, or easy, to train someone
using SeaMonkey to try a prebar or other such spoofing client. Most of
the time I'd just rather use general.useragent.extra.firefox and be done
with it as I don't really have time to investigate why a website is
working with Firefox & not with SeaMonkey.
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Re: One other thing

[Jane Galt]

Lucas Levrel   wrote :

> Le 20 avril 2010, Jane Galt a écrit :
> 
>> I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I
>> want to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT
>> email, j...@domain1
>>
>> If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from
>> that address.
> 
> Do you receive both into a single inbox?

Yes. My ISP routes them all to my primary email.

> 
>> Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way,
>> but it wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if
>> it doesnt. 
>>
>> The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
>> Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it
>> too? 
> 
> pine/alpine/realpine does it whatever the answer of the above question, 
> but that's not the subject...
> 
> In SM:
> - if the answer to the above question is yes, then it's definitely 
> possible!
> - if it's no, then I can't tell if it can be done automatically (I don't
> use SM mail very often), but at least it can be done in one click 
> (drop-down list of your From: addresses)
> 



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Re: Visual display query in Seamonkey MailNews

[Hartmut Figge]

Robert Traynor:

>But now the fresh install of SeaMonkey on the left side:-
>"mozilla.support.seamonkey" appears as "m.s.seamonkey"

- user.js -
user_pref("mail.server.default.abbreviate", false);
---

or via about:config.

Hartmut
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Visual display query in Seamonkey MailNews

[Robert Traynor]

Hi,
I have a Visual display query in Seamonkey MailNews.

I have just done a fresh install of SeaMonkey 2.0.4 in
Windows 7 x86.  In XP the left side panel displayed
"mozilla.support.seamonkey" in full.


But now the fresh install of SeaMonkey on the left side:-
"mozilla.support.seamonkey" appears as "m.s.seamonkey"

Obviously I must have done a customization by way of
about:config but I cannot determine what the setting
should be.  I have looked in the usual Mozilla online
references and googled, but no luck.

Can anyone assist please.?

TIA,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
21 April 2010   8:52



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Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[Ray_Net]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Ray_Net a écrit :

Peux-tu désinstaller le logiciel en passant par Programmes -> Seamonkey
-> Uninstall?


Cela n'existe pas . c'est dommage 



Étrange, moi je l'ai.

Par contre, je me rends compte que je n'ai pas été claire : je voulais
en fait dire C:\Programmes\Seamonkey\Uninstall (sans passer par le menu
Démarrer, donc).



Start - All programs - SeaMonkey ... -> did not end with a de-install 
link  This is not friendly :-)
But i did not known that i was able to de-install SM by running: 
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\uninstall\helper.exe


It would be better to see C:\Program 
Files\SeaMonkey\uninstall\uninstaller.exe  instead.


Anyway re-installing the same version re-instate the Add/remove Program 
entry - So lurking in the registry at 
HK_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ininstall\SeaMonkey 
(2.0.3) show me that the Uninstall String is: C:\Program 
Files\SeaMonkey\uninstall\helper.exe


(I have written this in english for complaining people thinking that 
this newsgroup is an only-english-language group :-) )


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Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hi all,

My prefered way of upgrading is to:
1. Remove the SeaMonkey 2.0.3 with the Add/Remove program of the
Windows
"Control Panel"
2. RE-boot the pc
3. Install SeaMonkey 2.0.4
by running the downloaded file: SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.4.exe
4. Run SeaMonkey 2.0.4 then in the browser
4.1 Open the downloaded file: seamonkey-2.0.4.fr.langpack.xpi (for
french)
4.2 Open the downloaded file: addon-13369-latest.xpi (for french
spelling)
5. Enable the french language
6. Enable the french spelling

BUT !!! i cannot do step 1.
Because i did not find the SeaMonkey 2.0.3 using the "Add/Remove
program" of the Windows "Control Panel"

I am under Windows XP SP3
and SM Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1;
en-US;
rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.3


Ray, did you follow a similar process when you installed SM 2.0.3, or
did you just upgrade from one of the earlier 2.0.x's??



I followed the same process when upgrading from SM1.1.14 to SM2.0.3


Does SeaMonkey (any version) appear at all in the Add/Remove list??

NO, there is no trace of any SeaMonkey.


I had a good idea ...
After a boot, i let my pc going to a quiet status (after some automatic
scanning by my anti-virus program) waiting till -> 99,99% cpu idle.
Then i install the same SM version 2.0.3 overwriting the SM2.0.3 one.
NOW !!! there is a "SeaMonkey (2.0.3)" entry in the Add/Remove programs
of the windows control panel.


Ray, it may be because of the SeaMonkey package that you installed,
originally!! I think if you installed the *.zip package, you get the
program but it is not registered in the Windows registry.

Which version of SeaMonkey did you install now that got it to show in
the registry??


"SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.4.exe" the same one used at first installation.

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Re: WMP

[David E. Ross]

On 4/20/10 12:01 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 4/19/10 6:36 AM, Samuel S wrote:
>>> Hello all, not sure if this is the place yet here goes...
>>>
>>> I have SM 2.0.4 using Vista business, I have used the following website,
>>>
>>> http://dukeandthedoctor.com/category/listen/
>>>
>>> and click on the part of the page which shows "On Air Now", I get the 
>>> pop-up for the feed to start. After opening, the message "Install 
>>> Missing Plug ins..." appears.
>>>
>>> This is a recent issue. Any ideas as to what I might have done to incur 
>>> this and how to repair? After all, I do have all the plug ins etc... or 
>>> so I thought as WMP works with other radio stations.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> SS
>>
>> I've seen similar problems regarding Flash.  They generally result from
>> invalid "sniffing" for "Firefox" instead of "Gecko" (where sniffing can
>> be justified at all).  For an explanation of "sniffing", see my
>> .
>>
>> To defeat sniffing, use any of the various extensions that allow you to
>> spoof Firefox.  For an explanation of "spoofing", see my
>> .
>>
> You can do that, but it's one more thing to track, update, etc. You can also 
> go 
> into about:config and select "useragent" in the select box. Right click and 
> define a new string value called general.useragent.extra.firefox with a 
> string 
> value of "NOT Firefox/3.5.3" (or 3.0.11 for 1.1.xx). This will cause sniffinf 
> for firefox to match and everything to work. And you need no extensions to 
> maintain.
> 

This would setup permanent spoofing, which is not a good thing.
Software that summarizes Web logs will then report browser visits as if
from Firefox even when spoofing is not necessary.  Eventually, Web
developers will get the impression that no one uses SeaMonkey.

The extensions I have seen all revert the UA string back to its default
value when the browser is terminated and then relaunched.  They also
allow the user to revert to the default during a browsing session.
Thus, Web logs will see "SeaMonkey" without "Firefox", causing Web
developers to realize that SeaMonkey is indeed used.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Multiple Versions

[Bill Davidsen]

Richard Lee Holbert wrote:

I have 1.1.18 and 2.0.3 both on this machine and I just
downloaded the setup file for 2.0.4 .
I have been using 1.1.18 for awhile now and it is my default mail.
In the 2.0.3 version, I have e-mail which does NOT show up in the 1.1.18
program and also some in 2.0.3 which does NOT show up in 1.1.18. Can
anyone tell me why. And, if I install 2.0.4 do I need to get rid of all 
previous
versions ? Also, if I install 2.0.4 how can I make sure that ALL e-mail 
from

1.1.18 and 2.0.3 gets into 2.0.4 ?

Thanks for any and all help.


The easiest way is to create a new profile (with a new unique name) in 2.0.x and 
then migrate to profile (probably called default) from 1.1.xx to the new 
profile. This will result to having your stuff in two profiles, but won't break 
anything and is simple to do. There are some ways to get everything in one 
profile again, but the migration is more complex and manual.


I have been told that once you get the profiles you can move things from one to 
the other, again more complex than might be justified. It can be done, by 
pointing things to old places, moving files and recreating indices, and other 
things which need to be done carefully.


--
Bill Davidsen 
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the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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Re: WMP

[Bill Davidsen]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/10 6:36 AM, Samuel S wrote:

Hello all, not sure if this is the place yet here goes...

I have SM 2.0.4 using Vista business, I have used the following website,

http://dukeandthedoctor.com/category/listen/

and click on the part of the page which shows "On Air Now", I get the 
pop-up for the feed to start. After opening, the message "Install 
Missing Plug ins..." appears.


This is a recent issue. Any ideas as to what I might have done to incur 
this and how to repair? After all, I do have all the plug ins etc... or 
so I thought as WMP works with other radio stations.


Thank you,

SS


I've seen similar problems regarding Flash.  They generally result from
invalid "sniffing" for "Firefox" instead of "Gecko" (where sniffing can
be justified at all).  For an explanation of "sniffing", see my
.

To defeat sniffing, use any of the various extensions that allow you to
spoof Firefox.  For an explanation of "spoofing", see my
.

You can do that, but it's one more thing to track, update, etc. You can also go 
into about:config and select "useragent" in the select box. Right click and 
define a new string value called general.useragent.extra.firefox with a string 
value of "NOT Firefox/3.5.3" (or 3.0.11 for 1.1.xx). This will cause sniffinf 
for firefox to match and everything to work. And you need no extensions to maintain.


--
Bill Davidsen 
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the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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Re: How do I import Firefox bookmarks into Sea Monkey please?

[Jens Hatlak]

Daniel wrote:
> Chris Ilias wrote:
>> On 10-04-19 12:17 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>> Chris Ilias:
>>>
 For Firefox 3 and SeaMonkey 2, that has actually changed. The file is
 places.sqlite, which contains your bookmarks and history.
>>>
>>> No, that isn't true for SM2. At least currently.
>>
>> Okay, sorry about that. I just checked the profile folder and saw
>> places.sqlite.
> 
> But, in any case, does that mean my instructions to michael_or are
> wrong??

Well, I'd say incomplete. The SeaMonkey part is probably correct but you
usually first have to make Firefox create a bookmarks.html.

> Can FF's places.sqlite be imported into SM??

Not directly (yet). That will only happen with SM 2.1. SM 2.0 can only
handle bookmarks.html for bookmarks, its places.sqlite support is
limited to history data.

To get a bookmarks.html file out of Firefox, see
.

HTH

Jens

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Re: Moving email folders out of SM...

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 19/4/2010 13:20, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

> 
> The only way Google's 7 GB limit applies is if you're storing your 
> messages on their server, right? Are we talking about IMAP, or what?
> 
> If you could move the messages to your local HDD, you should be free to 
> store as many as you like for as long as you like, and Big Brother won't 
> care.
> 

Actually, Gmail changes, bends or even ignores much of the rules of how
POP and IMAP servers should behave.

For instance, when you use POP, the usual behavior is to delete the
messages from the server after downloading. Gmail solemnly ignores that
-- it won't delete the messages no matter what your client's settings,
it will just hide them from the POP client. Or at least that was the
behavior last time I tested it for POP.

I didn't test the IMAP behavior at depth, but I wouldn't be surprised if
the user needs to lon on to the Web interface to be able to actually
delete those messages.

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Migrating from SM 1.18 to SM 2.0.4

[Paavo Nurminen]

I am running SeaMonkey on eComStation 2.0 rc6a. Migrating from
version 1.18 to 2.0.4. First using command
seamonkey.exe -P "new profile" -migration
Contents of Password Manager did not migrate, it was empty. There was
also problems with Message Filters, some of them were inactive and
had to delete and recreate them.
Then deleted SeaMonkey 2 filetree and it's profile and started
again, this time using command
seamonkey.exe -migration
Now migration went properly, but problems with Message Filters
persist. New profile for SeaMonkey 2 was created as a separate
step first (command: seamonkey.exe -ProfileManager).

Paavo Nurminen
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Re: One other thing

[Clifton Ray Hodges]

Jane Galt wrote:

I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail, which
I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I want, is this:

I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I want
to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT email,
j...@domain1

If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from that
address.

( one is home and one is my home business actually )

Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way, but it
wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if it doesnt.

The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it too?

What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!

( I know, after all this...  )



On Identities both Thunderbird and SeaMonkey has a feature called 
"Manage Identities", of course, depending upon your web domain, 
you may have to add the identities there as well - just depends...


I've used identities with OE (back when I used Windows XP) and 
Thunderbird, and now use them for SeaMonkey...


Example Main email address: ho...@mydomain.com
Example Identities with ho...@mydomain.com:
mys...@mydomain.com, peo...@mydomain.com, m...@mydomin.com, etc.

So if someone mails me to peo...@mydomain.com, and I reply, it 
will reply with the peo...@mydomain.com address, or any I choose 
from the drop-down list in the FROM field.


For managing identities with Thunderbird or SeaMonkey, select the 
menu item (which depends on your Operating System I believe) to 
bring up the Mail & Newsgroup Settings Window, and select the 
Account you want to manage identities for, then click the Manage 
Identities Button and add your identities.


Of course, even without 2 or more identities per email address, 
you can reply/send with any email address account you have set up 
in Thunderbird and SeaMonkey.


Regards,
Clifton



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Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[S. Beaulieu]

Mark Hansen a écrit :


This is an English news group, right?
If you two wish to converse in French, perhaps you should take it to
a private message?




Wow, Mark, why the hostility? I've seen help messages happen in various 
languages here before, including German and Spanish. How can it be bad 
to help someone in their own language? Sometimes, it just makes things 
easier to understand. Plus, relevant tries were reported on in English.


You can just skip those posts.

S.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2 - I like it!

[Mr. Cheese]

flyguy wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

flyguy wrote:

I hesitated for several months before upgrading to SM2 from 1.1.18
because of the early problems, but finally switched over at 2.03. It is
a good improvement over 1.1.18 - I like it!

Here the things I particularly like:

faster mail sending
auto tab recovery
open recent tab - really good one!
zoom of entire page - my wife's favorite
add-on manager

There were some smaller improvements. I can now delete bookmarks found
by searching in the sidebar, something 1.x didn't seem to allow, and the
(-) on an embedded Google map now works. It always worked in Google maps
directly, but not always when it was embedded.

It's easier to move a profile between the laptop and the desktop, now
that I can assign the profile folder name myself.

I am ambivalent about the form handling - would like to have both the
old and new methods, really. The current method is adequate for my
needs, mainly filling in a form when I'm buying something.


Re: ..."auto tab recovery
> open recent tab - really good one!
> zoom of entire page - my wife's favorite"
I haven't found these functions. Where are they? (I checked help and
searched the web)


The auto tab stuff happens automatically; the open recent tab is on the
File menu; zoom is on the View menu. You can also zoom with Ctrl + or
Ctrl -

Thx, for the info.
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Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :

Peux-tu désinstaller le logiciel en passant par Programmes -> Seamonkey
-> Uninstall?


Cela n'existe pas . c'est dommage 



Étrange, moi je l'ai.

Par contre, je me rends compte que je n'ai pas été claire : je voulais 
en fait dire C:\Programmes\Seamonkey\Uninstall (sans passer par le menu 
Démarrer, donc).


Par contre, comme le problème a été réglé hier, je ne suis pas certaine 
de l'utilité de cette démarche, sinon pour confirmer qu'il y a un autre 
moyen de désinstaller le logiciel...


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Re: One other thing

[Daniel]

Jane Galt wrote:

I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail, which
I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I want, is this:

I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I want
to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT email,
j...@domain1

If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from that
address.

( one is home and one is my home business actually )

Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way, but it
wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if it doesnt.

The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it too?

What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!

( I know, after all this...  )



Give it a go Jane!! Set yourself up with two e-mail profiles (Edit->Mail 
& Newsgroup Account Settings->Add Account) and you should be able to set 
up two (or more) e-mail accounts, which, when you open the SeaMonkey 
Mail & News screen and open those accounts, they should go and download 
your mail.


Then you can set each account to have its own "From:" address.

(If I were you, I'd set SeaMonkey to download copies (i.e. leave the 
originals on your web mail site) at least until you are sure SM will do 
what you want!!)


HTH

Daniel
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Re: How do I import Firefox bookmarks into Sea Monkey please?

[Daniel]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-04-19 12:17 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Chris Ilias:


For Firefox 3 and SeaMonkey 2, that has actually changed. The file is
places.sqlite, which contains your bookmarks and history.


No, that isn't true for SM2. At least currently.


Okay, sorry about that. I just checked the profile folder and saw
places.sqlite.



But, in any case, does that mean my instructions to michael_or are 
wrong?? Can FF's places.sqlite be imported into SM??


Daniel
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Re: How do I import Firefox bookmarks into Sea Monkey please?

[Daniel]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-04-19 8:02 AM, Daniel wrote:

Michael, Firefox and SeaMonkey both store their bookmarks in a file
called bookmarks.html.


For Firefox 3 and SeaMonkey 2, that has actually changed. The file is
places.sqlite, which contains your bookmarks and history.



Ah! Well, you live, you learnhopefully!!

Thanks, Chris.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2 - I like it!

[BeeNeR]

On or about 4/18/2010 5:16 PM, flyguy hatte gesagt:
> I hesitated for several months before upgrading to SM2 from 1.1.18
> because of the early problems, but finally switched over at 2.03. It is
> a good improvement over 1.1.18 - I like it!
> 

 < Snipped - nothing to do with my reply >

I've been using it for years.  I like it also.  Running 2.0.5pre with Win XP.
Only thing I've found lacking, at least for my use of the software, is the
limitations of TOOLS / COOKIE MANAGER / MANAGE COOKIES.  As a "manager" it
leaves a lot to be desired.

See my request for enhancement at:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546271

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Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times

[Daniel]

flyguy wrote:

Daniel wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

flyguy wrote:

My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long
time
to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to
set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use
of the email?

Turn off auto Compacting Preferences (settings) Mail & news > Network/
Storage.

uncheck compact files when K can be saved.

then do the compacting manually. Since I did so I stopped a whole
lot of
issues.


I just checked, and that's the way it is set up, and I do manually
compact hers whenever I notice mine being compacted (it's set auto).
Hmmm. I now think she was having another problem that looked similar,
and it got misdiagnosed - recently, our ISP was getting really slow on
some mail accounts when a message of 2 or 3 mb was downloading, so that
was probably it.

I am disappointed I can't set a time, or that SM can't work around
normal email operations when compacting, but it's an infrequent
irritant.

Thanks for the suggestion - still the best idea.



Does your wife have all her mail in a single folder or has she broken
the mail up into yearly folder for different mail, e.g. I store all my
past mail in folders under the Local Folders as 2009_Family,
2008_Family, 2009_Work, 2008_Work, etc., etc..


Taking a closer look, I can see the biggest one is the Trash at ~7000
messages. That's with a 60 day retention period. The Inbox is only 200,
but at times gets closer to 1000; again, a 60 day retention policy. She
belongs to a number of busy sewing and quilting groups, which are
filtered to individual folders, but she deletes most of those messages,
so they don't build up.

As long as I remember to compact manually now and then when she's not at
her desk, then usually no complaints. This last one was probably due to
an ISP quirk, and not the compacting.


Why does anyone want to store (i.e. keep) anything in the Trash 
folder...for one day let alone 60 days??


Make yourself/your Wife some extra folders to store the data in!!

Daniel
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OT Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[Daniel]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Ray_Net a écrit :

After a boot, i let my pc going to a quiet status (after some automatic
scanning by my anti-virus program) waiting till -> 99,99% cpu idle.
Then i install the same SM version 2.0.3 overwriting the SM2.0.3 one.
NOW !!! there is a "SeaMonkey (2.0.3)" entry in the Add/Remove programs
of the windows control panel.
Maintenant la situation est redevenue *normale*.


Tant mieux! J'imagine que l'installation s'était corrompue à un moment
ou à un autre.

S.


Ohhh!! You bi-lingual people, showing off again!!

Daniel
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Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hi all,

My prefered way of upgrading is to:
1. Remove the SeaMonkey 2.0.3 with the Add/Remove program of the
Windows
"Control Panel"
2. RE-boot the pc
3. Install SeaMonkey 2.0.4
by running the downloaded file: SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.4.exe
4. Run SeaMonkey 2.0.4 then in the browser
4.1 Open the downloaded file: seamonkey-2.0.4.fr.langpack.xpi (for
french)
4.2 Open the downloaded file: addon-13369-latest.xpi (for french
spelling)
5. Enable the french language
6. Enable the french spelling

BUT !!! i cannot do step 1.
Because i did not find the SeaMonkey 2.0.3 using the "Add/Remove
program" of the Windows "Control Panel"

I am under Windows XP SP3
and SM Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1;
en-US;
rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.3


Ray, did you follow a similar process when you installed SM 2.0.3, or
did you just upgrade from one of the earlier 2.0.x's??



I followed the same process when upgrading from SM1.1.14 to SM2.0.3


Does SeaMonkey (any version) appear at all in the Add/Remove list??

NO, there is no trace of any SeaMonkey.


I had a good idea ...
After a boot, i let my pc going to a quiet status (after some automatic
scanning by my anti-virus program) waiting till -> 99,99% cpu idle.
Then i install the same SM version 2.0.3 overwriting the SM2.0.3 one.
NOW !!! there is a "SeaMonkey (2.0.3)" entry in the Add/Remove programs
of the windows control panel.


Ray, it may be because of the SeaMonkey package that you installed, 
originally!! I think if you installed the *.zip package, you  get the 
program but it is not registered in the Windows registry.


Which version of SeaMonkey did you install now that got it to show in 
the registry??


Daniel
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Re: One other thing

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 20 avril 2010, Jane Galt a écrit :


I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I want
to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT email,
j...@domain1

If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from that
address.


Do you receive both into a single inbox?


Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way, but it
wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if it doesnt.

The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it too?


pine/alpine/realpine does it whatever the answer of the above question, 
but that's not the subject...


In SM:
- if the answer to the above question is yes, then it's definitely 
possible!
- if it's no, then I can't tell if it can be done automatically (I don't 
use SM mail very often), but at least it can be done in one click 
(drop-down list of your From: addresses)


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Re: Latest Sun Java JRE in SeaMonkey v2.0.4 not working with all applets?

[Ant]

On 4/19/2010 7:39 PM PT, NoOp typed:


On 04/19/2010 07:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/19/2010 5:23 PM PT, NoOp typed:

...

Then reset your ~/.mozilla/plugins link to the "properly" installed java
libnpjp2.so.


# locate libnpjp2.so
/home/Programs/jre1.6.0_20/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
/home/Programs/seamonkey2/plugins/libnpjp2.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
$ ls -all /usr/lib/jvm
total 92
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2010-04-19 19:19 .
drwxr-xr-x 242 root root 77824 2010-04-19 19:19 ..
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root19 2010-04-19 19:19 java-6-sun ->
java-6-sun-1.6.0.16
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root  4096 2010-04-19 19:19 java-6-sun-1.6.0.16
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  2364 2009-08-28 02:27 .java-6-sun.jinfo
$ pwd
/home/ant/.mozilla/plugins
$ ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so libnp2.so
$ ls -all
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2010-04-19 19:22 .
drwx-- 6 ant ant 4096 2010-03-20 19:41 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ant ant   57 2010-04-19 19:22 libnpjp2.so ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ant ant   48 2010-01-24 19:54 nphelix.so ->
/home/ant/download/RealPlayer/mozilla/nphelix.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ant ant   49 2010-01-24 19:54 nphelix.xpt ->
/home/ant/download/RealPlayer/mozilla/nphelix.xpt
$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_16"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode)
At least I have the JRE one now instead of JDK!

I retested both IceWeasel and SeaMonkey v2.0.4. Both showed b16 in
about:plugins, but still show errors when trying Java applets like
http://javatester.org's.


You missed sun-java6-plugin. You reset your java to use that version&
restarted SM and then checked about:plugins&  then used http://java.com
with *cookies* enabled etc?


Installed and double checked in about:plugins and retested with Java 
applets including 
http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1 ... Seme 
errors. :(


FYI, I also posted in 
http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5435967&tstart=0 but so far 
no replies.

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