Re: This Site May Harm Your Computer

[Paul B. Gallagher]

DoctorBill wrote:


I sure am running into a lot of those messages.
I use "Google Images" a lot and many images have that message when 
clicked on.


Do you suppose that message would come up were I using Internet Explorer ?
I don't want to try


I'm not noticing any uptick in the frequency of the warning. In any 
three pages of 30 hits, there're usually one or two.


Have you started entering (ahem) shady search terms such as v1agra?
(you don't have to answer that)

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Re: Don't start a new post with every post

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


and you have SMTP that handles any traffic going out.

Untrue. Only email.

Are you absolutely sure?


'Bout as sure as I can be, given my proclivity as a human to sometimes err.


When I do Edit | Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings for this account,
there's an option for "Outgoing Server (SMTP):"


I'm posting this reply with Pan 0.14.2.91 -- and there is no place
whatsoever in the server setups to enter any SMTP information.


And when I click send to post this message, the status bar shows that it's
contacting the relevant server.


Which would be?  news.mozilla.org ?  Not your ISP's SMTP server.


As it turns out, you're right. I saw that when I looked again closely. 
My apologies.



SMTP is not used for news.

My newsreaders (which are not email clients) have no SMTP settings.

Must be possible, I spose, but it's not how SeaMonkey (or Mozilla before
it) is configured out of the box.


Perhaps the setup dialog shows artifacts because it is also an email
application...


P'raps.

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Phillip Jones wrote:

> Beverly Howard wrote:
>> I'm getting an error at http://myharmony.com which produces an error in
>> seamonkey referencing;
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>  ...
> 
> shows fine for me.

With Opera:  http://tekrider.net/usenet/myharmony.jpg

Notice line 4. It does not belong above the  element. The starting
 tag is optional, so with the  placed first, the browser
assumes the  tag before the  tag.

WYSIWYG web authors wouldn't notice this error.

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Phillip Jones]

Beverly Howard wrote:

I'm getting an error at http://myharmony.com which produces an error in
seamonkey referencing;

http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>

The same page loads without error in ie6 but I would really like to
remain in seamonkey if at all possible.


In researching this, the page at
http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/att_html_xmlns.asp offers a code snippet
example using the exact same line at
http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_html_xmlns

...and that code works in seamonkey

Can anyone see something in the source of http://myharmony.com that
causes seamonkey to choke on this code.  I have a unique opportunity to
pass this on to logitech and possibly get the page seamonkey compatible.

Thanks in advance,
Beverly Howard


shows fine for me.

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Re: Resetting Default Action for JPEG (JPG's)...

[NoOp]

On 06/17/2010 05:05 PM, Eggar wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> This may be of help:
>> 
>>
> 
> Yea, I checked this article several weeks ago.
> Applies to every attachment type except for jpg.
> 
> (It may be implied somewhere that the 'Browser' is
> after all the original viewer for jpg's, but still,
> I'm looking for a way to break the browser being the
> default app)

Then perhaps reading it again may help? Or have you tried this?

Resetting download actions

This applies to all versions of Firefox and Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey

If problems arise or if you want to restore the default set of file
download actions, do the following [8]:

   1. Type about:config into the address bar.
   2. Find the preference browser.download.pluginOverrideTypes and, if
it is present, right-click on it and select reset.
   3. Find the preference plugin.disable_full_page_plugin_for_types and,
if it is present, right-click on it and select reset.
   4. Exit the browser, then open the profile folder (the profile folder
is hidden by default in Windows 2000/XP/Vista and Linux; read this if
you need help finding it).
   5. Delete (or rename) the file mimeTypes.rdf. Caution: There is also
a mimeTypes.rdf file in the program folder. Do not delete it by mistake.

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Re: Resetting Default Action for JPEG (JPG's)...

[Eggar]

NoOp wrote:

This may be of help:




Yea, I checked this article several weeks ago.
Applies to every attachment type except for jpg.

(It may be implied somewhere that the 'Browser' is
after all the original viewer for jpg's, but still,
I'm looking for a way to break the browser being the
default app)
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Re: Resetting Default Action for JPEG (JPG's)...

[NoOp]

On 06/17/2010 03:02 PM, Eggar wrote:
> Beverly Howard wrote:
>>  >> Is there a way to set JPG's to another default action than to open
>> in a browser window. <<
>>
>> Are you talking about what happens when a jpeg is encountered on a web
>> page when running Seamonkey or when you open a jpeg using file explorer?
>>
>> Clarification would help us help you.
>>
>> Beverly Howard
>>
> 
> At work here my bosses need sometimes to view **e-mail'd** jpg's from 
> outside apps and wanted me to see if the step of having to save the jpg 
> outside the e-mail before being able to choose the app could be 
> eliminated (boss's are stubborn)  Other file attachment types have the 
> option to choose and or default their actions, just wondering if the 
> same could (or already is) be applied with jpg's.  A Browser window is 
> set as it's default without anything I have seen yet, to be able to 
> change it.  Even finding the jpg info in the mimetypes.rdf and adding 
> the line 'NC:alwaysAsk="true"' (like all the others do) does not change 
> it's default behavior.   Once again - it is just the e-mail attachment 
> of a jpg, that is providing some difficulty here.
> 
> Thank you for your assertive response, prior - you guys are great!

This may be of help:


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Re: Resetting Default Action for JPEG (JPG's)...

[Eggar]

Beverly Howard wrote:

 >> Is there a way to set JPG's to another default action than to open
in a browser window. <<

Are you talking about what happens when a jpeg is encountered on a web
page when running Seamonkey or when you open a jpeg using file explorer?

Clarification would help us help you.

Beverly Howard



At work here my bosses need sometimes to view **e-mail'd** jpg's from 
outside apps and wanted me to see if the step of having to save the jpg 
outside the e-mail before being able to choose the app could be 
eliminated (boss's are stubborn)  Other file attachment types have the 
option to choose and or default their actions, just wondering if the 
same could (or already is) be applied with jpg's.  A Browser window is 
set as it's default without anything I have seen yet, to be able to 
change it.  Even finding the jpg info in the mimetypes.rdf and adding 
the line 'NC:alwaysAsk="true"' (like all the others do) does not change 
it's default behavior.   Once again - it is just the e-mail attachment 
of a jpg, that is providing some difficulty here.


Thank you for your assertive response, prior - you guys are great!
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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

>> It's not SeaMonkey choking; they are browser sniffing. <<

Good catch... comes up with seamonkey spoofing ie7 as well.  (time to 
update my user agent list)


Very strange that the parsing error message/response comes up with non 
ie user agent strings ...which sends us "techies" down a different 
solution path.


Thanks,
Beverly Howard









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Re: xhtml puzzle

[NoOp]

On 06/17/2010 10:56 AM, Beverly Howard wrote:
> Logitech's response;
> 
> "IE and FF support was enough since we were catering ... to the 
> non-techy crowd."
> 
> Beverly Howard

It's not SeaMonkey choking; they are browser sniffing. I used prebar to
change my ui to IE 6.0 WinXP and the site comes up fine.

Since they are catering to the non-techy crowd, let them know that this
'techy' won't be buying any more of their "non-techy" products.


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The answer to a number of SM 2 password problems ...

[Graham]

... appears to be Saved Password Editor from 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/60265/


For one thing, it allows you to setup passwords to be entered 
automatically even on sites which break the usual ways defeating 
password saving restrictions.

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Re: Can't send mail out

[Ray_Net]

FDVS wrote:




1. Cant send mail out (Dave Taylor)

THIS WAS A CLOCK PROBLEM. Seamonkey will not let me send out mail when
the clock disagrees with some other clock. I wish that it would advise
the problem rather than just bounce the emails.
I had accidentally set the clock a month ahead to check my schedule and
that's when the problem started.
Fixed now thanks.
Dave
This is not Seamonkey that block your mail due to your pc clock ahead. 
This is the mail server you use that refuse to post your mail.


Explained here:
http://www.affiliateblogonline.com/2009/10/02/how-to-fix-the-unknown-address-error-554-message-not-allowed/ 


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Re: Resetting Default Action for JPEG (JPG's)...

[Beverly Howard]

>> Is there a way to set JPG's to another default action than to open 
in a browser window. <<


Are you talking about what happens when a jpeg is encountered on a web 
page when running Seamonkey or when you open a jpeg using file explorer?


Clarification would help us help you.

Beverly Howard

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

>> Typical.  "I don't care." <<

I'm getting too old for their type of support and related relationship 
to their user community...


I took the time to make my feelings known in the most diplomatic way 
possible and just withdrew from their project. 


Beverly Howard

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Resetting Default Action for JPEG (JPG's)...

[Eggar]

Is there a way to set JPG's to another default action than to open in a 
browser window.  The 'Helper Application' Preference window does not 
have a listing for this file type.


Thank you in advance
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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beverly Howard wrote:

> Logitech's response;
> 
> "IE and FF support was enough since we were catering ... to the 
> non-techy crowd."

Typical.  "I don't care."  You should write back and tell them it is
easier to write for all browsers than just two. Tell them "Mac people
all use Safari."  Or tell them you've switched to IceWeasel.   

Most of my website stats show IE around 55%, but evenly divided among
versions 6, 7, and 8. Which did they pick?

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

>> http://geckoisgecko.org/ <<

Thanks... another great link.

Beverly Howard
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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

>> http://validator.w3.org/  will check HTML, XHTML, SMIL, MathML, etc.
and for CSS use  http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/  <<

Thanks... apreciated.
Beverly Howard

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[W3BNR]

Beverly Howard wrote:

 >> to learn that an extremely infinitesimal percentage of commercial
web developers are even aware of how to check for errors. <<

I have used html validation pages for years and pointed many others to
them... although I have to confess, primarily when there were problems.

So, I assumed that there would be an xhtml validation process somewhere,
but had not yet found it until your post.

My contact at logitech has been updated... so, fingers crossed that it
_might_ help... they are pretty resistant to any outside information
from my experience with them.

Thanks again,
Beverly Howard





http://validator.w3.org/  will check HTML, XHTML, SMIL, MathML, etc.
and for CSS use  http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/


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Re: xhtml puzzle

[S. Beaulieu]

S. Beaulieu a écrit :


You should point them to http://geckoisgecko.org/



(I know the problem isn't about sniffing per se, but I think the same 
argument can be applied to this case.)

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[S. Beaulieu]

Beverly Howard a écrit :

Logitech's response;

"IE and FF support was enough since we were catering ... to the
non-techy crowd."


You should point them to http://geckoisgecko.org/

S.

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

Logitech's response;

"IE and FF support was enough since we were catering ... to the 
non-techy crowd."


Beverly Howard
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Re: site navigation bar

[Ed Mullen]

Rick Merrill wrote:

I have it show 'only when needed' and i STILL
do not know what the heck it does!

When would I use this tool?



http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2001Oct/0026.html

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

>> to learn that an extremely infinitesimal percentage of commercial 
web developers are even aware of how to check for errors. <<


I have used html validation pages for years and pointed many others to 
them... although I have to confess, primarily when there were problems.


So, I assumed that there would be an xhtml validation process somewhere, 
but had not yet found it until your post.


My contact at logitech has been updated... so, fingers crossed that it 
_might_ help... they are pretty resistant to any outside information 
from my experience with them.


Thanks again,
Beverly Howard



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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beverly Howard wrote:

> Great information... thanks.
> [Beauregard wrote:]
>  >> Tell them to fix all the errors <<
> 
> I often wish life were like that ;-)
> 
>> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmyharmony.com%2F <<
> 
> Great link... that will hopefully help with communications not to
> mention the fact that it has already helped me understand and learn
> what is going on.

You would be surprised .. well, maybe not .. to learn that an extremely
infinitesimal percentage of commercial web developers are even aware of
how to check for errors.   :-/

> Thanks,
> Beverly Howard

You're welcome.

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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

Great information... thanks.

>> Tell them to fix all the errors <<

I often wish life were like that ;-)

>> 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmyharmony.com%2F <<


Great link... that will hopefully help with communications not to 
mention the fact that it has already helped me understand and learn what 
is going on.


Thanks,
Beverly Howard



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Re: xhtml puzzle

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beverly Howard wrote:

> I'm getting an error at http://myharmony.com which produces an error in 
> seamonkey referencing;
> 
> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>

There is extra markup between the DOCTYPE and the .
(The favicon link)

> The same page loads without error in ie6 but I would really like to 
> remain in seamonkey if at all possible.
> 
> In researching this, the page at 
> http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/att_html_xmlns.asp offers a code snippet 
> example using the exact same line at 
> http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_html_xmlns

That's not a suitable reference for your problem.

> ...and that code works in seamonkey

Yes, maybe, for some value of "works."  w3schools is not a worthy
reference - and if you weren't aware, is not connected with the W3C at
all.

> Can anyone see something in the source of http://myharmony.com that 
> causes seamonkey to choke on this code.  I have a unique opportunity to 
> pass this on to logitech and possibly get the page seamonkey compatible.

Tell them to fix all the errors, then try again. Also, they would be
better served using HTML 4.01 Strict rather than any flavor of XHTML.


Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Result:   18 Errors, 3 warning(s) 

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Re: This Site May Harm Your Computer

[David E. Ross]

On 6/17/10 8:14 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 6/17/10 6:48 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>> I am running into this message more and more often:
>>> "Warning - visiting this web site may harm your computer!"
>>> when I am looking for something.
>>>
>>> I was trying to find the Ticket for Space Exploration Technologies, Inc
>>> on Google and quite a few sites had this message!
>>>
>>> Here is one
>>> http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.niteczka.com.pl/sklep/blog/spacex%2Bstock%2Bsymbol.html
>>>
>>> Is this a real problem or is there something in MY system causing this to 
>>> come up?
>>>
>>> Does Google detect something or is MY system detecting it ?
>>>
>>> I am confused about this.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>> That particular message is from Google, not from SeaMonkey.  However,
>> when I tried to visit
>> ,
>> AVG (the antivirus application that I use) blocked the site as having
>> either a virus or spyware embedded.
>>
> 
> I sure am running into a lot of those messages.
> I use "Google Images" a lot and many images have that message when clicked on.
> 
> Do you suppose that message would come up were I using Internet Explorer ?
> I don't want to try
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Since the message is from Google and not your browser, I suspect you
would see them with IE, too.

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Re: This Site May Harm Your Computer

[DoctorBill]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/17/10 6:48 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am running into this message more and more often:
"Warning - visiting this web site may harm your computer!"
when I am looking for something.

I was trying to find the Ticket for Space Exploration Technologies, Inc
on Google and quite a few sites had this message!

Here is one
http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.niteczka.com.pl/sklep/blog/spacex%2Bstock%2Bsymbol.html

Is this a real problem or is there something in MY system causing this to come 
up?

Does Google detect something or is MY system detecting it ?

I am confused about this.

DoctorBill



That particular message is from Google, not from SeaMonkey.  However,
when I tried to visit
,
AVG (the antivirus application that I use) blocked the site as having
either a virus or spyware embedded.



I sure am running into a lot of those messages.
I use "Google Images" a lot and many images have that message when clicked on.

Do you suppose that message would come up were I using Internet Explorer ?
I don't want to try

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xhtml puzzle

[Beverly Howard]

I'm getting an error at http://myharmony.com which produces an error in 
seamonkey referencing;


http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>

The same page loads without error in ie6 but I would really like to 
remain in seamonkey if at all possible.



In researching this, the page at 
http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/att_html_xmlns.asp offers a code snippet 
example using the exact same line at 
http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_html_xmlns


...and that code works in seamonkey

Can anyone see something in the source of http://myharmony.com that 
causes seamonkey to choke on this code.  I have a unique opportunity to 
pass this on to logitech and possibly get the page seamonkey compatible.


Thanks in advance,
Beverly Howard
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Re: This Site May Harm Your Computer

[David E. Ross]

On 6/17/10 6:48 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I am running into this message more and more often:
> "Warning - visiting this web site may harm your computer!"
> when I am looking for something.
> 
> I was trying to find the Ticket for Space Exploration Technologies, Inc
> on Google and quite a few sites had this message!
> 
> Here is one
> http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.niteczka.com.pl/sklep/blog/spacex%2Bstock%2Bsymbol.html
> 
> Is this a real problem or is there something in MY system causing this to 
> come up?
> 
> Does Google detect something or is MY system detecting it ?
> 
> I am confused about this.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

That particular message is from Google, not from SeaMonkey.  However,
when I tried to visit
,
AVG (the antivirus application that I use) blocked the site as having
either a virus or spyware embedded.

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Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: Can't send mail out

[FDVS]

1. Cant send mail out (Dave Taylor)
THIS WAS A CLOCK PROBLEM.  Seamonkey will not let me send out mail when 
the clock disagrees with some other clock.  I wish that it would advise 
the problem rather than just bounce the emails.
I had accidentally set the clock a month ahead to check my schedule and 
that's when the problem started.

Fixed now thanks.
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This Site May Harm Your Computer

[DoctorBill]

I am running into this message more and more often:
"Warning - visiting this web site may harm your computer!"
when I am looking for something.

I was trying to find the Ticket for Space Exploration Technologies, Inc
on Google and quite a few sites had this message!

Here is one
http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.niteczka.com.pl/sklep/blog/spacex%2Bstock%2Bsymbol.html

Is this a real problem or is there something in MY system causing this to come 
up?

Does Google detect something or is MY system detecting it ?

I am confused about this.

DoctorBill

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site navigation bar

[Rick Merrill]

I have it show 'only when needed' and i STILL
do not know what the heck it does!

When would I use this tool?

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Re: signature oddity in SM 2.1 nightly

[Neil]

dominique wrote:

I found with my SM2.1 nightly an issue (probably a regression since a 
few days...) about the use of a signature file.
I compose messages in HTML with a signature file that is appearing 
when clicking the "compose" button.
The window opens with my signature as usual (fine) but with the word 
"signature" right before it !
I filed a bug for it:  
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572290

Is anyone seeing this very same problem ?


I have to admit that I can't seem to reproduce the problem, but maybe 
I'm following the wrong steps.


Is the signature file itself an HTML or a text file?
Does the problem only occur with a file, not with the signature textbox?
Does the problem occur if you switch identities (using the From 
dropdown) or only on initial composition?


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Re: signature oddity in SM 2.1 nightly

[Hartmut Figge]

dominique:
>Hartmut Figge wrote, On 6/17/2010 9:58 AM:

>> Hm. Windows only perhaps?
>
>It may be a windows-only problem, right...

I have reposted my answer to de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds.
Hopefully someone will comment there.

Hartmut
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Re: signature oddity in SM 2.1 nightly

[dominique]

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 6/17/2010 9:58 AM:

The window opens with my signature as usual (fine) but with the word
"signature" right before it !


Not with my nightly of yesterday. The new one isn't usable due to a lot
of bugs. *g*


I filed a bug for it:  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572290


I do not use IMAP and also no HTML. I cannot see how this could be
related to IMAP. Composing an HTML E-Mail inserts the signature just
fine. For many NGs i am using a longer signature so the effect is better
to see.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ht100617.png (17 KB)


I tried a clean test profile with the same behavior.


Hm. Windows only perhaps?

Hartmut

It may be a windows-only problem, right...
I also have some strange behavior with HTML message composition (cut and 
paste do not keep the font and size but revert to the default one) so I 
suspect it might be related to a Mailnews / composition problem, more 
generic than the signature only.


I need to search bugzilla for a recent TB bug that could be related.
Dominique
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Re: signature oddity in SM 2.1 nightly

[Hartmut Figge]

dominique:

>I found with my SM2.1 nightly an issue (probably a regression since a 
>few days...) about the use of a signature file.
>I compose messages in HTML with a signature file that is appearing when 
>clicking the "compose" button.
>The window opens with my signature as usual (fine) but with the word 
>"signature" right before it !

Not with my nightly of yesterday. The new one isn't usable due to a lot
of bugs. *g*

>I filed a bug for it:  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572290

I do not use IMAP and also no HTML. I cannot see how this could be
related to IMAP. Composing an HTML E-Mail inserts the signature just
fine. For many NGs i am using a longer signature so the effect is better
to see.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ht100617.png (17 KB)

>I tried a clean test profile with the same behavior.

Hm. Windows only perhaps?

Hartmut
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signature oddity in SM 2.1 nightly

[dominique]

Hello all,

I found with my SM2.1 nightly an issue (probably a regression since a 
few days...) about the use of a signature file.
I compose messages in HTML with a signature file that is appearing when 
clicking the "compose" button.
The window opens with my signature as usual (fine) but with the word 
"signature" right before it !

I filed a bug for it:  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572290
Is anyone seeing this very same problem ?
I tried a clean test profile with the same behavior.
Thanks for confirming (maybe) this problem.

Dominique
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