Re: Is there a way...
Rufus wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/12/2010 04:18 AM, Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/11/2010 03:46 AM, Daniel wrote: ... I have several Usenet accounts, and even of late with the spamming here and here-abouts, I've often thought it would be useful to have just one set of filters that apply to each and every account!! ... Set the filters for the news server (news.mozilla.org) rather than the group (mozilla.support.seamonkey). That way they apply across all groups on the server. Example (msgFilterRules.dat): snip No problem, NoOp, when I set up a filter, especially for UseNet, I do select to apply the filter to the server, not just the particular group. But, ultimately, I would like to apply them all to all my news servers at once, not just to a particular server. Daniel Ah, I see what you're asking now. I know of no way to do that all in one go. However, I _think_ if you set up one you could then copy the same msgFilterRules.dat file to the other news folders. Disclaimer: I've not tried this, so back up then try - maybe with a test profile first. I can try later today on a test system if you'd rather me do the breaking :-) I've done this - just a couple days ago. It works. I don't know how you did it, Rufus, but, if every I get motivated, I'd be looking in prefs.js to see if there is a separate location listed for each of the msgFilterRules.dat files, and if so, try pointing each one to the same location. Is this how you did it, Rufus?? Daniel No - I didn't touch any of the .js files... What I did was to duplicate the one msgFilterRules.dat file that I had in my master Account and put those duplicates into the folders for the other Accounts, replacing the ones that were there. That way I ended up with the same base rule/filter set for each Account/server. Then I went into the individual Accounts and performed a couple minor Edit actions to add or remove what I wanted for each. Took me all of about 5 minutes. So you are still using separate files for each account. Seems a waste to me. I tried asking in the seamonkey IRC group last night, but the SM team were holding a meeting at the time I asked. I will try again. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: When is an upgrade not an upgrade???
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Why the full version?? We only issue partial updates from one version to the next. If you are on a version older than 2.0.4, you need to use a full upgrade to get to 2.0.5, only 2.0.4 will get a partial one. Robert Kaiser Thanks Robert. Any possibility of going 2.0.3-2.0.4 and then, next start-up maybe, 2-0-4-2.0.5?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: separate window opens
Paul wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Not a popup as I have popup blocker enabled on Windows XP sp3 SM2.0.5. But every now and then, say five minutes after launching SeaMonkey, the URL http://www.lookupanyonetoday.com/ opens in a new window. It is a useful website, but I don't want it automatically. I have SM set to open new URL in a Tab. I see nothing in Start|All Programs|Startup. There are no schtasks. Where/How could this be happening? Your computer may have been turned into a zombie. Root kits hide outside the file area where normal virus scanners won't see them. Get a firewall that you can watch. NOT windows firewall. Zone alarm free is good. Do a web search for: tdsskiller Thanks for the tips. THe WINNING combination is (and the tipoff was that I said it was usefull) I had the URL as a Personal Bookmark with a check for updates! So everytime it checked for changes up it came! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: When is an upgrade not an upgrade???
Daniel schrieb: Any possibility of going 2.0.3-2.0.4 and then, next start-up maybe, 2-0-4-2.0.5?? In theory, sure, but I don't know how our update system internals work. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Editing forwarded messages
Joe Zeff wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:44:36 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: But what I've always wondered is, how do those people not get fired? Two reasons, probably. First, we had a database of possible solutions for various issues; as most of them had multiple suggestions, there was a good chance that a support-monkey would pick a wrong one at random, as they didn't know enough to tell which one was probably right. And, of course, when (not if) it didn't work, they could say, But I followed the walk-through! OK, so they're robots, they don't learn? The second reason was that their leads often knew little if anything more than they did, being more manager than tech. Even a manager ;-) can see who's resolving issues faster and more often and who's just pissing off the customers. What about that calls may be recorded nonsense? I've always assumed that was a big lie but they had to say it to reassure the customers. I once spoke to a caller who was on his fifth call for the same issue. The first tech had decided to remove and replace Dial-Up Networking, which IMAO wasn't indicated. When it didn't work, the next three techs he spoke to clearly were suffering from The Bullwinkle Syndrome: This time, for *sure!* The definition of insanity... When I get in one of those infinite loops, I always try to get the issue escalated; eventually I'll get to someone competent. But this kind of system always affects my attitude toward the company and my judgment of their competence. The one that's 100% sure to tell me they're a bunch of ^%$*% liars and incompetents is when I'm on hold for a half-hour listening to them repeat over and over again, your call is important to us... Instead, I Did The Right Thing: I went over their configuration and corrected several errors in it, after which everything worked. The funny thing is, we were judged, largely, on the average call- time and my way was much faster. I've even written a short book on my experiences: http://www.xlibris.com/FearandLoathinginTechSupport.html Interesting stuff, but since we're off-topic, someone is bound to tell us to take it private, so let's end here. Thanks. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey Classic Default Theme
I like the Seamonkey 2,xx default theme, but I have low eye sight. So I'm happy I stumbled upon the Classic Default Theme (Netscape 4.x/Samonkey 1.xxx) it has more contrast in the Email section. Works great, looks good with Seamonkey 2.0.5, Windows 2000-SP4. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/46108/ Info from the site: This is a port of the old Netscape 4.x/Mozilla Suite Classic theme for SeaMonkey 2.0.Including all visual elements from SeaMonkey 1.x and Netscape, this theme also includes new icons of the Add-on Manager, and Mail components to make them look more classical. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Classic Default Theme
Zanqeutil wrote: I like the Seamonkey 2,xx default theme, but I have low eye sight. So I'm happy I stumbled upon the Classic Default Theme (Netscape 4.x/Samonkey 1.xxx) it has more contrast in the Email section. Works great, looks good with Seamonkey 2.0.5, Windows 2000-SP4. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/46108/ Info from the site: This is a port of the old Netscape 4.x/Mozilla Suite Classic theme for SeaMonkey 2.0.Including all visual elements from SeaMonkey 1.x and Netscape, this theme also includes new icons of the Add-on Manager, and Mail components to make them look more classical. Regards, Zanqeutil You could have also gone to the View menu then zoom and increased the font size in the message window as large as you need. -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Classic Default Theme
William Morrison schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I like the Seamonkey 2,xx default theme, but I have low eye sight. So I'm happy I stumbled upon the Classic Default Theme (Netscape 4.x/Samonkey 1.xxx) it has more contrast in the Email section. Works great, looks good with Seamonkey 2.0.5, Windows 2000-SP4. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/46108/ Info from the site: This is a port of the old Netscape 4.x/Mozilla Suite Classic theme for SeaMonkey 2.0.Including all visual elements from SeaMonkey 1.x and Netscape, this theme also includes new icons of the Add-on Manager, and Mail components to make them look more classical. Regards, Zanqeutil You could have also gone to the View menu then zoom and increased the font size in the message window as large as you need. No it has nothing to with the font size, it's more about the old icon set I was familiar with. Yes they look a bit outdated but I missed them. There's nothing wrong with the new Default Seamonkey 2.xx theme, it looks nice and fresh, but the classic theme (icons) has more contrast for me, especially the folders in the in the emailpane. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Classic Default Theme
Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:33:01 -0400, /Zanqeutil/: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/46108/ There's nothing wrong with the new Default Seamonkey 2.xx theme, it looks nice and fresh, but the classic theme (icons) has more contrast for me, especially the folders in the in the emailpane. I generally like the toolbar icons but yes, most of the small 16x16 icons used elsewhere have very poor contrast, and I've seen this complaint quite a few times. I wonder whether the SeaMonkey council could ask the Mozilla Foundation for help about bringing a contest (or whatever) for yet newer and better designed SeaMonkey icons. SeaMonkey could fall-back and use the Tango icon library [1] as Thunderbird appears to use pretty much. I have another complaint I have solved for myself by copying and customizing the default theme - the toolbar icons are too large: 32x32 pixels, while desktops generally use 24x24 pixels for large toolbar icons (including the old SeaMonkey 1.* default classic theme). The large size combined with the text labels below them take enourmous amount of space. So my custom theme reduced the size of the large icons to 24x24, I've set all toolbars to Show text besides icons and with few userChrome.css customizations made only selective text labels visible, so they don't take too much space horizontally. I may eventually publish my theme changes if I get to package everything right. [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cache query
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:43:40 -0400, Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Daniel wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Is the same cache used for SM2 mail (e.g. with pictures) as for the SM2 browser? There's only one location set for cache in the prefs, so I'm guessing. Daniel My guess as well ... Check the cache directory under about:cache BTW, the answer is no. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and
others) and to display the page?
My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently
written by the same careless coder.
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XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx
Line Number 125, Column 84:
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Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
Yes, thanks! That did it!
BTW: Mine only showed SeaMonkey/2.5 so I double-clicked
and changed it to: SeaMonkey/2.5, Firefox/3.0
Thanks again!
doc
Ed Mullen wrote:
d...@kd4e.com wrote:
How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and
others) and to display the page?
My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently
written by the same careless coder.
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XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx
Line Number 125, Column 84:
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in address bar type about:config (no quotes)
In the Filter bar type agent (no quotes).
Double click the entry SeaMonkey/2.0, Firefox/3.0 and enter this value:
SeaMonkey/2.0, Firefox/3.0
Go to the site. Does it load ok now?
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Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:27:35 -0400, /d...@kd4e.com/: How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and others) and to display the page? My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently written by the same careless coder. --- XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx Line Number 125, Column 84: --- Install the Open in Browser extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/8207/ Then whenever you get such error try View - View as - Web page. Spoofing as Firefox would not help resolve such problems sooner, if at all. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way...
Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/12/2010 04:18 AM, Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/11/2010 03:46 AM, Daniel wrote: ... I have several Usenet accounts, and even of late with the spamming here and here-abouts, I've often thought it would be useful to have just one set of filters that apply to each and every account!! ... Set the filters for the news server (news.mozilla.org) rather than the group (mozilla.support.seamonkey). That way they apply across all groups on the server. Example (msgFilterRules.dat): snip No problem, NoOp, when I set up a filter, especially for UseNet, I do select to apply the filter to the server, not just the particular group. But, ultimately, I would like to apply them all to all my news servers at once, not just to a particular server. Daniel Ah, I see what you're asking now. I know of no way to do that all in one go. However, I _think_ if you set up one you could then copy the same msgFilterRules.dat file to the other news folders. Disclaimer: I've not tried this, so back up then try - maybe with a test profile first. I can try later today on a test system if you'd rather me do the breaking :-) I've done this - just a couple days ago. It works. I don't know how you did it, Rufus, but, if every I get motivated, I'd be looking in prefs.js to see if there is a separate location listed for each of the msgFilterRules.dat files, and if so, try pointing each one to the same location. Is this how you did it, Rufus?? Daniel No - I didn't touch any of the .js files... What I did was to duplicate the one msgFilterRules.dat file that I had in my master Account and put those duplicates into the folders for the other Accounts, replacing the ones that were there. That way I ended up with the same base rule/filter set for each Account/server. Then I went into the individual Accounts and performed a couple minor Edit actions to add or remove what I wanted for each. Took me all of about 5 minutes. So you are still using separate files for each account. Seems a waste to me. I tried asking in the seamonkey IRC group last night, but the SM team were holding a meeting at the time I asked. I will try again. Daniel Yes, but at least they all started from the same file - so I have/had the same set of rules for each server...which I eventually figured out that I didn't really want to be the case anyway - but only by one or two rule instances. I'm satisfied...they are small files. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Classic Default Theme
Zanqeutil wrote: I like the Seamonkey 2,xx default theme, but I have low eye sight. So I'm happy I stumbled upon the Classic Default Theme (Netscape 4.x/Samonkey 1.xxx) it has more contrast in the Email section. Works great, looks good with Seamonkey 2.0.5, Windows 2000-SP4. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/46108/ Info from the site: This is a port of the old Netscape 4.x/Mozilla Suite Classic theme for SeaMonkey 2.0.Including all visual elements from SeaMonkey 1.x and Netscape, this theme also includes new icons of the Add-on Manager, and Mail components to make them look more classical. Regards, Zanqeutil I agree - I can't stand the new default theme either...but I found I am able to make do with the SM Modern one, with some exceptions - like the small buttons in some of the Dialog boxes. Still...far better than the new default. Glad you found something you can use. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and others) and to display the page? My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently written by the same careless coder. --- XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx Line Number 125, Column 84: --- Try this add-on: http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/ Will allow you to switch your user agent without having to mess with about:config Also - http://www.useragentstring.com/ is a handy reference for building/evaluating user agent strings for yourself. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cache query
jim wrote: On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:43:40 -0400, Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Daniel wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Is the same cache used for SM2 mail (e.g. with pictures) as for the SM2 browser? There's only one location set for cache in the prefs, so I'm guessing. Daniel My guess as well ... Check the cache directory under about:cache BTW, the answer is no. Thanks for the clarification. I see that they Are All Cleared by the same command. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
On 07/14/2010 02:27 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and others) and to display the page? My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently written by the same careless coder. --- XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx Line Number 125, Column 84: --- http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ Install select 'User Agent' Firefox. And while you're at it, send a msg to http://www.cyrusonline.com/default.aspx and tell them that their browser sniffing of http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/ is crap and causing issues with gecko based browsers. All of these are likely to have the same issue: http://www.cyrusonline.com/OurClients/Portfolio/default.aspx ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
On 07/14/2010 05:03 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/14/2010 02:27 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and others) and to display the page? My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently written by the same careless coder. --- XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx Line Number 125, Column 84: --- http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ Install select 'User Agent' Firefox. And while you're at it, send a msg to http://www.cyrusonline.com/default.aspx and tell them that their browser sniffing of http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/ is crap and causing issues with gecko based browsers. All of these are likely to have the same issue: http://www.cyrusonline.com/OurClients/Portfolio/default.aspx Sorry, forgot to add that these fools also have the same issue with their own home page: http://www.cyrusonline.com/default.aspx XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.cyrusonline.com/default.aspx Line Number 82, Column 92:div class=subnavulli class='firstlink 'a href=/About/Mission title=Mission PhilosophiesMission Philosophies/a/lili class=' 'a href=/About/Leadership title=LeadershipLeadership/a/lili class=' 'a href=/About/Partners title=PartnersPartners/a/lili class=' 'a href=/About/News title=NewsNews/a/lili class=' 'a href=/About/Events title=EventsEvents/a/lili class=' 'a href=/About/ResellerPrograms title=Re-Seller ProgramsRe-Seller Programs/a/li/ul/div ^ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
I sent them a note.
I belly-laughed when I read your follow-up re. their home page!
BTW: Is your instruction here better than the change I made to
agent or the same? Can you explain the difference, please?
It has been a couple of decades since I was a systems manager
and played with code. My code is now limited to primitive
hacking of HTML.
http://prefbar.mozdev.org/
Install select 'User Agent' Firefox.
And while you're at it, send a msg to
http://www.cyrusonline.com/default.aspx and tell them that their
browser sniffing of http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/ is crap and
causing issues with gecko based browsers. All of these are likely to
have the same issue:
http://www.cyrusonline.com/OurClients/Portfolio/default.aspx
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Re: Telling Seamonkey to Ignore Errors?
On 7/14/2010 5:45 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: How do I tell Seamonkey 2.0.5 to ignore this error (and others) and to display the page? My wife really needs to access this, and another apparently written by the same careless coder. --- XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.eastgeorgiaregional.net/default.aspx Line Number 125, Column 84: --- in address bar type about:config (no quotes) In the Filter bar type agent (no quotes). Double click the entry SeaMonkey/2.0, Firefox/3.0 and enter this value: SeaMonkey/2.0, Firefox/3.0 Go to the site. Does it load ok now? umm, no... changing our SeaMonkey pref is not the right way; See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/User_Agent_Strings_Reference#Implementation_notes_for_applications.2c_vendors.2c_and_extensions Use this way when doing additive methods. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way...
NoOp wrote: On 07/14/2010 03:06 AM, Daniel wrote: ... So you are still using separate files for each account. Seems a waste to me. I tried asking in the seamonkey IRC group last night, but the SM team were holding a meeting at the time I asked. I will try again. Seems logical to me. I have many news servers installed. All have their different quirks, trolls, spam, etc., etc. On msgFilterRules.dat wouldn't work for me. Having the ability to have an independent/individual msgFilterRules.dat for each is essential to me. Ditto. Starting from a common file was a help, as I saved a ton of typing. But in the end I found I still wanted to make minor adjustments for the subscriptions in each Account/server. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
