Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
DoctorBill wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the message and then trash it without looking at the attachment. If the attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it. I get already get many jokes in text form, jokes that don't require any graphic enhancement. I avoid most political messages on advice of my doctor, who nevertheless had to prescribe medication to lower my blood pressure. :) But some of the stuff that comes out of the conservative wing is so hilarious that you just have to forward it around. You know, stuff like we have to trim the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to the rich, or it's all Obama's fault that the Bushies destroyed our economy, or the records clerk in Hawaii 50 years ago forged a birth certificate because they knew one day the baby would be a Democratic president. You just can't make some of this $#!+ up... Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? You will get what you deserve for voting for Obama. Promises, promises! -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: form history
Rick Merrill wrote: It would not matter if they did or did not: the website designer can still use form fields for whatever. It is the fault of the website creator to use insecure methods. It is not the fault of SM forms if a field called cc is used to store a credit card number. At any rate, I was suspicious and FOUND MY credit card in a form by using the forms manager! So, bad websites are a security hole, NOT forms manager ( I misspoke above). The only way SM could supply a cc number to a form would be if you gave it the number. Are you saying SM saved your cc number without your knowledge or consent? Or are you saying you foolishly saved it yourself and then it popped up? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: [snip] Having participated in e-forums for over a quarter century starting with dial up bulletin boards through pre-internet compuserve, then nntp and now web base forums, I _know_ that full quoting was born from the needs of primitive software, slow connections and terrible nntp readers such as outlook express. Full quoting has, unfortunately, been preserved by the fact that many newsreaders, email clients (mozilla included) and web forums _default_ to full quoting in their composer settings. ... [snap] I find full quoting a convenient first draft, and I'm competent enough to select and snip the irrelevant material. I assume others on this forum are equally capable, but they don't prune because a) they can't be bothered; or b) they think they're not supposed to. The latter view is probably from dealing with tech support staff elsewhere, who demand that every message contain the entire top-posted thread. I don't have a link off the top of my head, but I seem to recall that the organizers of this newsgroup have established a policy of pruning, for the reasons Bev stated elsewhere in her post. And I'm happy to follow it. There's nothing more annoying than to scroll down three or four screens of quoted quoted quoted quotes to a single line of new text saying, Yep, I agree. You're right, Paul, as I seem to recall pruning is the requested method..it's just that Beverly seems to be pruning trees off at almost ground level. Makes reading her responses, some of which provide real good suggestions, difficult, at least to me! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab 2
Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Evan Davidson wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Does IE Tab 2 work with SM 1.1.19? If not, is there an IE Tab that does work? Download vers. 1.3.3 from http://downloads.mozdev.org/ietab/ . It works on SM 1.1.19. Does it work on Windows 7 64-bit though? So far I can't get any IE tab to work. It seems to ! Thanks - it does seem to work so far. But I'm still having a problem with the new version of Hotmail. It still doesn't work with SM, even using IE Tab. I have to actually open IE to get it to work. Leave it to Microsoft! In case I decide to uninstall ietab, how do I do that? Tools - Add-on Manager. Click to highlight the extension and then the Uninstall button. There is no Add-on Manager in 1.1.19 that I can see? Can anyone tell me how to uninstall ietab? Tom, I seem to recall that in SM 1.x.x you had to install an extension, the extensionuninstaller I think it was called, and an .api program. Then in the Tools drop-down, the Extension Uninstaller would be listed and it would list all the installed extension, which you can then select and uninstall. Or was this all in Mozilla Suite? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
OT population (was Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE)
JeffM wrote: David E. Ross wrote: snip Yup. *More*. Especially if you're in the 4th most populous nation: :Firefox’s share on many of the top Indonesian websites :is between 65-75%. http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2010/06/29/mozilla-in-indonesia-2010/ India 1Bill, China 1Bill, US of A approx 300Mill, Russia I'm guessing 200Mill, but Indonesia is only about 125Mill, isn't it?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack
NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 12:54 PM, Beverly Howard wrote: proof of concept I assumed (and hoped) that it was innocent, but, as it would work when malicious, I got pulled off the page before I had time to read far enough to get to the full explanation of what _was_ going to happen. When I returned to the tab, there as the bogus page. imho, the user should have been offered the option of experiencing the phish rather than having it execute on the page reporting on the possibility. It was pretty disturbing, albeit educational. Beverly Howard quote Try it Out You can try it out on this very website (it works in all major browsers). Click away to another tab for at least five seconds. Flip to another tab. Do whatever. Then come back to this tab. /quote You switched away from the tab (either to a different tab, to check this newsgroup, email, whatever). Try sitting on the tab without switching away; you can read the entire article, go get coffee, do what you wish. The code won't activate until you switch away from it; that's the actual point the author is making. I was still reading the page when, before my eyes, it changed!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems with version 2 mailers
Harold Robbins wrote: Can anyone tell me how to import messages and files from 1.1.8 to version 2 mailers? I have asked in the forum but did not get a reply. Harold Harold, as part of setting up SM 2.0.x, it will/should ask if you want it to import your stuff from SM 1.x.x Didn't this happen for you?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.0.6 Address Books
I am using this and all of a sudden it decided it would not save new additions or new lists. Does anyone know how to fix this? I have been using SeaMonkey for years and never seen this problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
her ;-) Beverly Howard http://BevHoward.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT population (was Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE)
On 08/13/2010 04:45 AM, Daniel wrote: JeffM wrote: David E. Ross wrote: snip Yup. *More*. Especially if you're in the 4th most populous nation: :Firefox’s share on many of the top Indonesian websites :is between 65-75%. http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2010/06/29/mozilla-in-indonesia-2010/ India 1Bill, China 1Bill, US of A approx 300Mill, Russia I'm guessing 200Mill, but Indonesia is only about 125Mill, isn't it?? Daniel https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html?countryName=IndonesiacountryCode=idregionCode=easrank=4#id ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
On 08/09/2010 11:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: ... I don't have a link off the top of my head, but I seem to recall that the organizers of this newsgroup have established a policy of pruning, for the reasons Bev stated elsewhere in her post. And I'm happy to follow it. There's nothing more annoying than to scroll down three or four screens of quoted quoted quoted quotes to a single line of new text saying, Yep, I agree. Beverly is a he... http://www.mozilla.org/community/etiquette.html [Trim your follow-ups.] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible to send email in the background?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Dave wrote: Hi all, is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather than having the window pop up indicating the status with the server? This is irritating when sending large emails. Many thanks! Let your OS send your email (silently as all get out): sendEmail - Send email from a console near you! Written by: Brandon Zehmcasp...@dotconf.net http://caspian.dotconf.net/ sendEmail is a very good program. I also use blat, at http://www.blat.net/. -JW Yes, and it can be run from a batch job. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: form history
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: It would not matter if they did or did not: the website designer can still use form fields for whatever. It is the fault of the website creator to use insecure methods. It is not the fault of SM forms if a field called cc is used to store a credit card number. At any rate, I was suspicious and FOUND MY credit card in a form by using the forms manager! So, bad websites are a security hole, NOT forms manager ( I misspoke above). The only way SM could supply a cc number to a form would be if you gave it the number. Are you saying SM saved your cc number without your knowledge or consent? Yes, that is correct. The web site used javascript and the field was cc! Or are you saying you foolishly saved it yourself and then it popped up? Form suggestions are in a pull-down ;-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 04:42 PM, NoOp wrote: ... I agree with David regarding the rfc... however: The link doesn't work with Opera (linux) as well. But it *does* work with Chromium 5.0.375.125 (53311) Ubuntu 10.04 (linux), and Epiphany Web Browser 2.30.2 (linux). Sorry, forgot to mention that Epiphany changes the url to: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg As does Chromium: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg from: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES%5Cpose-yoga.jpg Therefore SM could do the same ... isn't it ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i have another case showing SM not smart at all) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible to send email in the background?
Rick Merrill wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Dave wrote: Hi all, is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather than having the window pop up indicating the status with the server? This is irritating when sending large emails. Many thanks! Let your OS send your email (silently as all get out): sendEmail - Send email from a console near you! Written by: Brandon Zehmcasp...@dotconf.net http://caspian.dotconf.net/ sendEmail is a very good program. I also use blat, at http://www.blat.net/. -JW Yes, and it can be run from a batch job. I also switched from sendEmail to blat because you can put a lot of the constants for blat usage into the Windows registry, like this: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Public Domain\Blat] SMTP server=x SMTP Port=x Try=x Login=x [encrypted] Pwd=x [encrypted] Sender=j...@pospamsucksbox.com That makes the command line to call blat a _lot_ simpler, and makes global changes (if you're calling blat from a bunch of different batch jobs) very simple. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Ray_Net wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i have another case showing SM not smart at all) Can you post the source for that email from your wife with the non-functioning URL? Also, is there a reason you're still using 2.0.4? -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 08/13/2010 09:06 AM, Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 04:42 PM, NoOp wrote: ... I agree with David regarding the rfc... however: The link doesn't work with Opera (linux) as well. But it *does* work with Chromium 5.0.375.125 (53311) Ubuntu 10.04 (linux), and Epiphany Web Browser 2.30.2 (linux). Sorry, forgot to mention that Epiphany changes the url to: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg As does Chromium: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg from: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES%5Cpose-yoga.jpg Sorry should have been: from: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg SeaMonkey adds the %5C as in: http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES%5Cpose-yoga.jpg The others changed the backslash (\) to a forward slash (/). Therefore SM could do the same ... isn't it ? I reckon so... file a bug report. May be related to the code in this one that I filed last year? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531210 [When accessing urls in SeaMonkey with %20, it is replaced with a whitespace. Breaks other software if you try to copy-paste part of the url out of SeaMonkey] So lets have a look see if we can find anything: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=SeaMonkeycontent=%255C https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=Firefoxcontent=%255C I don't know much about it, but googling on: http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=mozilla+%2B%255CbtnG=Search These might be of interest: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bernard/archive/0001/01/01/15136.aspx [Update - ASP.NET Vulnerability] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Reference/Global_Functions/encodeURIComponent [encodeURIComponent] quote encodeURIComponent escapes all characters except the following: alphabetic, decimal digits, - _ . ! ~ * ' ( ) /quote https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Reference/Global_Functions/encodeURI As mentioned - I really don't know much about the subject. But maybe the above will help (or confuse more) prompt someone more knowledgeable to comment. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
ok, here's the problem ...
... i'm in a newsgroup try to post to a friend BUTT another user ads some asinine comments.[i know what a kill file is]. what i want to do is disallow him to ad his comments. is this possible? b ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
On 13.08.2010 11:15, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i have another case showing SM not smart at all) Any *correctly formatted* link when received in Seamonkey is clickable: http://www.mysite.com http://mysite.com www.mysite.com All clickable. mysite.com isn't because it isn't a URL. I have done extensive testing of this since your post and cannot duplicate any abnormalities with non-clickable correctly formatted links/URL's. You say your wife sent you an email with a link that isn't clickable. Can you post the link just as it was sent? Does the link have a space in the url, an illegal character? SM will not render such but IE and some others will, depending on the nature of the formatting. Seamonkey v2.0.6 -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 08/13/2010 09:11 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: ... I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. I reckon David is correct: http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=+site:forums.mozillazine.org+mozilla+%2Burl+%2B%255Csa=Xei=OKJlTOeZCpOesQOzjL39DQved=0CBsQrQIwAA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ok, here's the problem ...
On 13.08.2010 14:42, u...@domain.invalid wrote: --- Original Message --- ... i'm in a newsgroup try to post to a friend BUTT another user ads some asinine comments.[i know what a kill file is]. what i want to do is disallow him to ad his comments. is this possible? b Unless you're tha server administrator or otherwise have useable permissions granted by the admin, no. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Test http:\\mysite.com Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
test html plain http://mysite.com Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. fwiw, I just got one of these emails that contained a fully qualified http url address and it did NOT form into a clickable link. I changed my view message body as setting to plain text and the text formed into a link. My assumption that if text within an html only was a url it would not form is incorrect. I am looking through the trash for that message and will report back. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. fwiw, I just got one of these emails that contained a fully qualified http url address and it did NOT form into a clickable link. Found it and confirmed it. here is a gif screenshot http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/NoClick.gif of the link text in the seamonkey email reader set to original html showing that the valid url text did not render as a link. Obviously, it is not clickable The plain text message source shows; === This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_=_NextPart_001_01CB3A61.E32850E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvYAWrkvyYdcfeature=3Drelated The html section of the message source shows; p = class=3DMsoNormalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvYAWrkvyYdcamp;featur= e=3Drelatedo:p/o:p/p The message was produced by; X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 08/13/2010 01:24 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: ... http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif ... Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE Works in Chromium Epiphany (both linux). Note: you have to modify the '%5C' to '\' when copying from SeaMonkey so that you don't end up testing: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images%5Clogo.gif ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ok, here's the problem ...
On 8/13/2010 2:42 PM, u...@domain.invalid wrote: ... i'm in a newsgroup try to post to a friend BUTT another user ads some asinine comments.[i know what a kill file is]. what i want to do is disallow him to ad his comments. is this possible? b it seems to me that it would be better to contact your friend outside the newsgroup then you would not have this problem ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. I think that should read “...should be clickable.” I thought so too. A large part of the time, they’re not. keith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i have another case showing SM not smart at all) Can you post the source for that email from your wife with the non-functioning URL? Also, is there a reason you're still using 2.0.4? -JW No :-) I had downloaded the 2.0.5 when i was ready to install it 2.0.6 is there, i did not find yet the time for downloading it :-) The offending url is: http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g635802-d1448378-Reviews-Auberge_l_Orry_le_Saquet-Ax_les_Thermes_Ariege_Midi_Pyrenees.html This is the mail from my wife: I changed the mail-adresses and added at beginning of each line. i did not add some = (is this coming by the mime format, i don't know): -- Return-Path: prvs=1841ba3fd6=prenom.origina...@domain-origin.be Received: from hays.is.mydomain.be (hays.is.mydomain.be [193.74.71.223]) by hubbard.is.mydomain.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7D7Dg7K021934 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:13:42 +0200 Received: from mailhost2.domain-origin.be (uu194-7-213-165.unknown.uunet.be [194.7.213.165]) by hays.is.mydomain.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7D7De4p004492 for prenom...@mydomain.be; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:13:42 +0200 Received: from SRVMSWEEPER.domain-origin.be (srvmsweeper.domain-origin.be [172.20.2.54]) by mailhost2.domain-origin.be (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o7D7DeS3003888 for prenom...@mydomain.be; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:13:40 +0200 Received: from DOMINOSMTP01.domain-origin.be (dominosmtp01.domain-origin.be [172.20.2.53]) by SRVMSWEEPER.domain-origin.be (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.3.4) with ESMTP id t97772295a2ac1402361...@srvmsweeper.domain-origin.be for prenom...@mydomain.be; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:13:36 +0200 To: prenom...@mydomain.be Subject: l'orry a Ax MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 79E12C7F:A8187AFD-C125777E:0027904E; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 Message-ID: of79e12c7f.a8187afd-onc125777e.0027904e-c125777e.0027b...@domain-origin.be From: prenom.origina...@domain-origin.be Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:13:36 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DominoSMTP01/domain-origin(Release 8.5.1FP3|May 23, 2010) at 13/08/2010 09:13:37, Serialize complete at 13/08/2010 09:13:37 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_alternative 0027B2F1C125777E_= X-DCC-mydomain-Metrics: hays; whitelist X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2-exp at hays X-Virus-Status: Clean This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0027B2F1C125777E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Si tu veux conna=EEtre l'avis de gens qui sont all=E9s =E0 l'Orry le Saquet= =20 regarde ce site, il y a =E0 boire et =E0 manger. http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g635802-d1448378-Reviews-Auberge_l_O= rry_le_Saquet-Ax_les_Thermes_Ariege_Midi_Pyrenees.html Fran=E7oise=20 P before printing this email, think about the environment. ***= This e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addres= sed. It may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any copying, disclosure, distribution or other use of the content of this e-mail by pers= ons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Please contact immediately the sender if you have received this e-mail in error and delete= it from all locations of your computer. The company on behalf of which the pre= sent e-mail is sent is validly committed only if the rules on the delegation of powers, as set out in the appropriate documents, have been complied with. Furthermore, due to the risks inherent to the use of the Internet, the comp= any is not liable for the content of this e-mail if altered, changed or falsifi= ed.
Re: ok, here's the problem ...
Rick wrote: On 8/13/2010 2:42 PM, u...@domain.invalid wrote: ... i'm in a newsgroup try to post to a friend BUTT another user ads some asinine comments.[i know what a kill file is]. what i want to do is disallow him to ad his comments. is this possible? b it seems to me that it would be better to contact your friend outside the newsgroup then you would not have this problem ... he's manic! *that's* the problem. b ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:15, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i have another case showing SM not smart at all) Any *correctly formatted* link when received in Seamonkey is clickable: http://www.mysite.com http://mysite.com www.mysite.com All clickable. mysite.com isn't because it isn't a URL. I have done extensive testing of this since your post and cannot duplicate any abnormalities with non-clickable correctly formatted links/URL's. You say your wife sent you an email with a link that isn't clickable. Can you post the link just as it was sent? Does the link have a space in the url, an illegal character? SM will not render such but IE and some others will, depending on the nature of the formatting. What i find strange is that the link is not clickable, but when i do a forward to myself the same part of the mail is now clickable :-) SM is smart enough to transform a non-clickable into a clickable link ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ok, here's the problem ...
Rick wrote: On 8/13/2010 2:42 PM, u...@domain.invalid wrote: ... i'm in a newsgroup try to post to a friend BUTT another user ads some asinine comments.[i know what a kill file is]. what i want to do is disallow him to ad his comments. is this possible? b it seems to me that it would be better to contact your friend outside the newsgroup then you would not have this problem ... he's manic! *that's* the problem. b ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 8/13/10 2:27 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! Yes. IE is broken in that it allows \ in a server-based URI when the internationally recognized specification says that \ is not allowed. You want Gecko (the core for Firefox, SeaMonkey, and others) to be similarly broken. Most of us would prefer that Gecko not be broken. No, I'm NOT a Mozilla developer or associated with Mozilla in any way other than as a user. I don't use IE because it is indeed broken in many ways and because IE lacks many of the features that are handy to experienced users. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 8/13/10 2:25 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) As explained before, \ is indeed proper for a URI pointing to a LOCAL file. Yes, it works with SeaMonkey. As explained before, \ is improper for a URI pointing to a file on an external host. It does not work with SeaMonkey because it is not a proper character in a URI. RFC 3986 clearly indicates that URIs that give paths to files use / and not \. SeaMonkey complies with that specification; IE does not. Thus, IE is broken and SeaMonkey is correct. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ok, here's the problem ...
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Rick wrote: On 8/13/2010 2:42 PM, u...@domain.invalid wrote: ... i'm in a newsgroup try to post to a friend BUTT another user ads some asinine comments.[i know what a kill file is]. what i want to do is disallow him to ad his comments. is this possible? b it seems to me that it would be better to contact your friend outside the newsgroup then you would not have this problem ... he's manic! *that's* the problem. b Send an abuse report about him, send a copy of the remarks to his ISP (Internet Service Provider). -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Beverly Howard wrote: Test http:\\mysite.com Beverly Howard Try this: http://mysite.com -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:15, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Rick Merrill wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable. What is the message window for this group's view message body as set to? Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text and see if the link activates. I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in html format and have only the link text and no associated link created for the text. Beverly Howard The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links and so they are clickable. Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not* clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i have another case showing SM not smart at all) Any *correctly formatted* link when received in Seamonkey is clickable: http://www.mysite.com http://mysite.com www.mysite.com All clickable. mysite.com isn't because it isn't a URL. I have done extensive testing of this since your post and cannot duplicate any abnormalities with non-clickable correctly formatted links/URL's. You say your wife sent you an email with a link that isn't clickable. Can you post the link just as it was sent? Does the link have a space in the url, an illegal character? SM will not render such but IE and some others will, depending on the nature of the formatting. What i find strange is that the link is not clickable, but when i do a forward to myself the same part of the mail is now clickable :-) SM is smart enough to transform a non-clickable into a clickable link ! Mr Howard example he has http:\\mysite.com notice how he has written. its should be written http://mysite.com -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 13.08.2010 15:56, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- On 08/13/2010 01:24 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: ... http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif ... Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE Works in Chromium Epiphany (both linux). Note: you have to modify the '%5C' to '\' when copying from SeaMonkey so that you don't end up testing: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images%5Clogo.gif http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images%5Clogo.gif in SM autoconverts to \logo.gif and doesn't work. And http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif doesn't work either. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 13.08.2010 16:27, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! Well then, it works in IE8, things changed. It doesn't work in IE-6 that came along with my XP-Pro. I'll have to try it on my other box with Win-7 ... Yes, it works with IE that came with Win-7. Again, it guesses whereas SM and FF don't. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 13.08.2010 18:13, David E. Ross wrote: --- Original Message --- On 8/13/10 2:27 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! Yes. IE is broken in that it allows \ in a server-based URI when the internationally recognized specification says that \ is not allowed. You want Gecko (the core for Firefox, SeaMonkey, and others) to be similarly broken. Most of us would prefer that Gecko not be broken. No, I'm NOT a Mozilla developer or associated with Mozilla in any way other than as a user. I don't use IE because it is indeed broken in many ways and because IE lacks many of the features that are handy to experienced users. The argument is going to be made as usual that IE gets it correct which is all the user is after regardless if it's broken and doesn't adhere to the W3C standards. The counter argument to that is that if web developers would take the time and effort to write sites that are cross-browser compatible then this ongoing issue would be moot. 8-) Not a dev here either. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
On 13.08.2010 16:47, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- The offending url is: http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g635802-d1448378-Reviews-Auberge_l_Orry_le_Saquet-Ax_les_Thermes_Ariege_Midi_Pyrenees.html Works here just fine in ALL of my browsers, what is offending about it? Even works on my iPhone 4 -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Jay Garcia: http:\\mysite.com works ok in FF. FF transfigures it as http:// Try it on Linux. :-P Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
On 08/13/2010 04:50 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 18:29, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- Mr Howard example he has http:\\mysite.com notice how he has written. If you right click on that in SeaMonkey and copy link location you get: http://\\mysite.com/ its should be written http://mysite.com http:\\mysite.com works ok in FF. FF transfigures it as http:// FF is smart beyond being smart... a non-modified FF puts a www in the pasted url *and* adds the '//' : Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.\\mysite.com. * Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com It changes it to this: http://www.\\mysite.com/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Why is 'use system proxy setting' the default?
The question was asked why proxy was set to 'use system proxy setting'
as the default.
Is there a simple explanation I can share with them, please?
Is there a problem with changing it to no proxy?
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Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
Beverly Howard wrote: her ;-) Beverly Howard http://BevHoward.com Wow! Who'da guessed? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:27, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! Well then, it works in IE8, things changed. It doesn't work in IE-6 that came along with my XP-Pro. I'll have to try it on my other box with Win-7 ... Yes, it works with IE that came with Win-7. Again, it guesses whereas SM and FF don't. MS is up to their old tricks. They will never be standards compatible. In order to do so they are going to have to deep six that infernal Sel-healing Code They have had in their browsers Since IE 1. They put in for Front page which allowed Monkey's and chimpanzees write website. If one tag is there and the other is not, the self-heal code would guess the correct tag. If someone write code and makes a mistake leave something out. it should flat not work. Period!! -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
sample of how html works in SM2 for me.
This didn't happen in SM regardless of what size print you had set it would stay that way http://screencast.com/t/YjM4ZmIy The reason for the space is that on the website (newly created group for use folks that want to work with/try out HTML Code) I have html inserted I wanted to try out. The actual item doesn't show until the item is posted. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
On 13.08.2010 19:01, Hartmut Figge wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia: http:\\mysite.com works ok in FF. FF transfigures it as http:// Try it on Linux. :-P Hartmut I don't use Linux except on my server. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
On 13.08.2010 19:02, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- On 08/13/2010 04:50 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 18:29, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- Mr Howard example he has http:\\mysite.com notice how he has written. If you right click on that in SeaMonkey and copy link location you get: http://\\mysite.com/ its should be written http://mysite.com http:\\mysite.com works ok in FF. FF transfigures it as http:// FF is smart beyond being smart... a non-modified FF puts a www in the pasted url *and* adds the '//' : Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.\\mysite.com. * Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com It changes it to this: http://www.\\mysite.com/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8 Right-click on http:\\mysite.com and choose Open link in browser. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey -- Harold Robbins Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
Keith,
Your posts are making it here fine, go ahead and ask your
question, please?
If you are not seeing your posts, check your Junk folder.
HTH ...
NoOp wrote:
On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote:
I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get
replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ?
Use the newsgroups instead:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey
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Harold Robbins
Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate
SM questions?
keith whaley
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Re: IE Tab 2
On 8/13/2010 2:04 PM, Daniel wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Evan Davidson wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Does IE Tab 2 work with SM 1.1.19? If not, is there an IE Tab that does work? Download vers. 1.3.3 from http://downloads.mozdev.org/ietab/ . It works on SM 1.1.19. Does it work on Windows 7 64-bit though? So far I can't get any IE tab to work. It seems to ! Thanks - it does seem to work so far. But I'm still having a problem with the new version of Hotmail. It still doesn't work with SM, even using IE Tab. I have to actually open IE to get it to work. Leave it to Microsoft! In case I decide to uninstall ietab, how do I do that? Tools - Add-on Manager. Click to highlight the extension and then the Uninstall button. There is no Add-on Manager in 1.1.19 that I can see? Can anyone tell me how to uninstall ietab? Tom, I seem to recall that in SM 1.x.x you had to install an extension, the extensionuninstaller I think it was called, and an .api program. Then in the Tools drop-down, the Extension Uninstaller would be listed and it would list all the installed extension, which you can then select and uninstall. Or was this all in Mozilla Suite? Daniel Daniel, Your recollection is correct and, still using SM 1.x.xx, this looks like an anachronism compared to what can be found and Firefox, Thunderbird, and SM2 (I guess, since I will remain with the previous version as long as a number of irritants are not corrected). But, for lack of a better solution, what you describe is much better than nothing! -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey and Adobe Reader
Recently, an attempt to print a bad PDF file required that I reinstall my printer, Adobe Acrobat (the writer), and Adobe Reader. (It hosed my Windows XP print spooler, which meant I also had to reinstall the print-to-fax capability.) Now, when I try to view a PDF file, I get an error popup with the message: The Adobe Acrobat/Reader that is running can not [sic] be used to view PDF files in a Web browser. Please exit Adobe Acrobat/Reader and exit your browser and try again. The headers indicate the PDF file I'm trying to view has Content-Type: application/pdf I have Adobe Reader 9.3.3. nppdf32.dll is in SeaMonkey's plugins directory; it is version 9.3.3.177. NOTE WELL: This problem causes a crash in SeaMonkey. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
Keith Whaley wrote: NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey -- Harold Robbins Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? keith whaley One could hope that within the small number of email.lists readers that someone would be able to help. As opposed to the ng with its thousands of readers. Some people may not be able to do ng's... don't know why not though. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Adobe Reader
On 8/13/10 10:21 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Recently, an attempt to print a bad PDF file required that I reinstall my printer, Adobe Acrobat (the writer), and Adobe Reader. (It hosed my Windows XP print spooler, which meant I also had to reinstall the print-to-fax capability.) Now, when I try to view a PDF file, I get an error popup with the message: The Adobe Acrobat/Reader that is running can not [sic] be used to view PDF files in a Web browser. Please exit Adobe Acrobat/Reader and exit your browser and try again. The headers indicate the PDF file I'm trying to view has Content-Type: application/pdf I have Adobe Reader 9.3.3. nppdf32.dll is in SeaMonkey's plugins directory; it is version 9.3.3.177. NOTE WELL: This problem causes a crash in SeaMonkey. Never mind. I removed and then reinstalled Adobe Reader (expecting someone else would suggest that). Now it works okay. But something in the way it was previously installed really clobbered SeaMonkey. I got three crashes in a half hour trying to capture the text of the error popup and the headers. Fortunately, I did not have to remove and reinstall SeaMonkey. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
