Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!

2010-09-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Blisset® wrote:


Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut-
Copy-Paste and @ symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I
can't print @ in a window

I ask to Seamonkey developers. Can you develop these must-have simple
features?
Thank you very much


Works fine for me, has for every version since Netscape 4.5...

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Re: SM 2.07 Compose mail problem.

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel

chicagofan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

My personal address book is alphabetical as it should be, but when I
click Compose then address, I get another order, that makes no
sense. If I click on that down arrow it just puts something else at
the bottom, not what is highlighted. I thought it would move what is
highlighted down, one move/click at a time.

What happened? How can I get the names to list alphabetically when
accessed in the Compose mail window?

I'm using Win XP and Walnut theme with the last update of SM 2.07.
bj

bj, I just went and had a look myself. Note this was with SM 2.1a2, but
I expect this to apply to SM 2.0.7 as well.

I normally have my addressbook indexed on the Name column. The only
other column I normally have displayed is the e-mail address.

So I clicked the little squiggle line in the top right, ticked Screen
Name, sorted on Screen Name, then un-ticked Screen Name (so I was
back to my normal two column display) and the list stayed as it was
when
I had sorted by Screen Name selected.

Had to click on the Name column header to get things sorted by that
column again.

Is it possible you've done something similar??

Daniel

What I have is a block symbol that I assume is the same thing as your
squiggle, and I tried that back and forth until they were back in
order... except for the 2 lists... that I use the most [an A-list and
B-list], which are reversed. The A-list is a group of friends that I
write daily and I named it that, so that it would be first and
highlighted when I open the address book. However, now the B-list of
business contacts is listed first... and I can't find a way to change
it. Far as I know, A should still come before B. ;)

I don't understand why the compose window doesn't show the same thing as
my address book, and can't see what I could have done to change it. Not
saying that I didn't... but can't find it now. :) I'll keep fooling with
the Screen Name switch and see if it shakes out.

Thanks Daniel for checking, we had the same address book setup... Name
and e-mail, so if yours is working, I won't give up hope I can get mine
to change back somehow. It may be something in my Walnut theme.
bj



chicagofan, are you saying that if you clicked Compose and then
clicked Address, in the left half of the screen, you get all your
contact names and email addresses listed. In the top right of that
section of the screen, at the same level as the Name and Email
column headers, there is another little Icon, which, if you click on it,
gives a listing of the columns you can have displayed.

Select another column heading to display, then click on that column
header so your address book is indexed according to the entries in this,
new, third column.

Now click on Name and the addressbook will be indexed according to
what you have as the name for the email address. Clicking on the Name
reverses the display orderwell at least it does for me!

Daniel


I'm saying that clicking on Name... the compose address window IS in
name order... EXCEPT FOR... the B-List has been inserted FIRST on the
list... although my address book is correctly sorted by Name...
alphabetically. B does not come first in the alphabet to my knowledge. ;)

Can not get it to change by switching. :( Guess I'll have to delete the
list, and create another or leave it out.
bj



I did, at one stage, have a group for my Family members with-in my 
Addressbook, and it just listed in its correct place, under F for 
Family, but then I didn't re-index my listing.


Sorry, cannot help, bj.

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Re: Seamonkey 1.19

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel

JeffM wrote:

JeffM wrote:

Now for the $64,000 question:
How much RAM is in that box?


Daniel wrote:

375MByte


384MB would be the number commonly reported for that.
So, your box is atypical for someone who is *still* using Win9x.
Mostly such folks will never alter the original hardware specs
and will still be running with ~128MB.
The *light* Linux distros are where they should be looking.


(apparently Win98 cannot work with 1gig


There is a tweak that usually works for RAM512MB.
http://google.com/search?q=512MB+MaxPhysPagehl=all


or more of memory


More than 1GB is definitely out of bounds for 9x.


Gee, isn't that what I said??




Where's my $64,000, please?


Expect that to arrive with the next security update for Win98.


OK, great, and I was just about to give you my Bank Account details! 
Seems as you've got some money you want to give away!!


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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

-
How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-

Why would they bury the sound file in the calendar.jar file?

Is it possible to make the sound.wav inside the calendar.jar file
a symlink to a file external to calendar.jar?

That way one could change the sound.wav easily, or even write a
script to rotate sound.wav files for variety.

WDYT?



How about just changing the system file called sound.jar, i.e. each 
day/week rename/copy a different .wav file to be called sound.wav!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.com wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
a
free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
...


Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8


Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

Lee

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.



Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?

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Enlarging Bookmarks font size - Help please

2010-09-16 Thread starrin
Have old tired eyes.  Need to enlarge 2.07 bookmarks running in
sidebar on a Vista PC.
Have managed to get a larger font size for text, etc., but am stumped
as to where to look to enlarge bokmarks font size.  Can accept doing
away with the icons, boxes, bars that proceed the bookmarks, if that
is an issue.
TIA
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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com

 Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

-
How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-

Why would they bury the sound file in the calendar.jar file?

Is it possible to make the sound.wav inside the calendar.jar file
a symlink to a file external to calendar.jar?

That way one could change the sound.wav easily, or even write a
script to rotate sound.wav files for variety.

WDYT?



How about just changing the system file called sound.jar, i.e. each
day/week rename/copy a different .wav file to be called sound.wav!

Daniel


Is there a system file called sound.jar?

I understood the setup to be calendar.jar with sound.wav
embedded within it.

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Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!

2010-09-16 Thread Leonidas Jones
Blisset® blis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut-
 Copy-Paste and @ symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I
 can't print @ in a window
 
 I ask to Seamonkey developers. Can you develop these must-have simple
 features?
 Thank you very much

Hm, that doesn't add up.  I've used cut/copy/paste functions in
SeaMonkey right along. Could you provide more information about how you
are tryin it and exactly where it fails?

Lee
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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread WLS

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

  Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

-
How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-

Why would they bury the sound file in the calendar.jar file?

Is it possible to make the sound.wav inside the calendar.jar file
a symlink to a file external to calendar.jar?

That way one could change the sound.wav easily, or even write a
script to rotate sound.wav files for variety.

WDYT?



How about just changing the system file called sound.jar, i.e. each
day/week rename/copy a different .wav file to be called sound.wav!

Daniel


Is there a system file called sound.jar?

I understood the setup to be calendar.jar with sound.wav
embedded within it.



I'm assuming that you installed Lightning into Seamonkey, so why 
don't/can't you go into your lightning preferences and change the alarm 
sound to whatever you want.


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/530/screenshotpreferencesr.png

That can be found under Edit  Preferences.

WLS




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Re: making SeaMonkey the default browser

2010-09-16 Thread Ray_Net

Rufus wrote:

Steven Dukarm wrote:

How do I make SeaMonkey my default browser? I have trolled through the
preferences and all of the menu options but I don't see anything.


You have to open Safari Prefs and set it there. Apple built Safari to be
the be-all when it comes to setting your Default.

Do you have to install Safari to permit you to put SeaMonkey as the 
default browser ? :-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread David E. Ross
Working fine on a PC with Windows XP SP3.  Although I don't normally run
that way, I started SeaMonkey by launching the Profile Manager and
selecting a profile.  (Usually, I launch SeaMonkey via a shortcut that
contains the -p switch to select my primary profile.)

Downloaded the partial .mar file and installed it via a script I made
based on
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Manually_Installing_a_MAR_file.
 I still wish bug #340330 were implemented so that I would not need to
maintain my script.

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Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!

2010-09-16 Thread S. Beaulieu

Blisset® a écrit :

Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut-
Copy-Paste and @ symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I
can't print @ in a window



This reminds me of a problem I used to have. Do you use a McAfee 
antivirus (which sometimes is repackaged under another name?). If so, 
its Site Adviser is causing the problem. See 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601 (notably posts 6 to 15).


S.
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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com

WLS wrote:


How about just changing the system file called sound.jar, i.e. each
day/week rename/copy a different .wav file to be called sound.wav!

Daniel


Is there a system file called sound.jar?

I understood the setup to be calendar.jar with sound.wav
embedded within it.



I'm assuming that you installed Lightning into Seamonkey, so why
don't/can't you go into your lightning preferences and change the alarm
sound to whatever you want.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/530/screenshotpreferencesr.png

That can be found under Edit  Preferences.

WLS


Thanks!

I wonder why the Lightning instructions don't say that?

Their instructions create the clear impression that sound.wav is
embedded in calendar.jar -- so one would not even think to look
elsewhere.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com

d...@kd4e.com schrieb:

I have 2.0.7 and just clicked Check for Updates and it replied that
there were no updates available.


Hey, take your time, I'm no machine. I'm not finished with all of the
release stuff yet, I still need to push the update snippets so the
update server knows about them. Will do that in the next minutes.

Robert Kaiser


Working fine in Puppy Linux on two laptops with Lucid 5.1 and on a
Netbook with Fluppy 005

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Phillip Jones, on 9/15/2010 7:53 PM typed:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.com wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
a
free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
...


Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8


Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

Lee

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.


Erm, I just updated my 2.0.6 to 2.0.8 via Help | Check for Updates, and I
can't see anything removed from the UA at this point:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13) Gecko/20100914
Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.8

I'm making the assumption that the sanitizer code to which you refer regards
the removal of many items in the UserAgent string.  These changes aren't
scheduled to occur until SM 2.1, IIRC.

If I'm in error, and the code to which you refer is some other component of
SM, I'd certainly like to know the details.


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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread WLS

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

WLS wrote:


How about just changing the system file called sound.jar, i.e. each
day/week rename/copy a different .wav file to be called sound.wav!

Daniel


Is there a system file called sound.jar?

I understood the setup to be calendar.jar with sound.wav
embedded within it.



I'm assuming that you installed Lightning into Seamonkey, so why
don't/can't you go into your lightning preferences and change the alarm
sound to whatever you want.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/530/screenshotpreferencesr.png

That can be found under Edit  Preferences.

WLS


Thanks!

I wonder why the Lightning instructions don't say that?

Their instructions create the clear impression that sound.wav is
embedded in calendar.jar -- so one would not even think to look
elsewhere.



There are instructions? News to me.

YW!
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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com

I wonder why the Lightning instructions don't say that?

Their instructions create the clear impression that sound.wav is
embedded in calendar.jar -- so one would not even think to look
elsewhere.



There are instructions? News to me.

YW!


-
How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-

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Re: SM 2.07 Compose mail problem.

2010-09-16 Thread chicagofan

Daniel wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

Daniel wrote:

chicagofan, are you saying that if you clicked Compose and then
clicked Address, in the left half of the screen, you get all your
contact names and email addresses listed?snip

Daniel
   

I'm saying that clicking on Name... the compose address window IS in
name order... EXCEPT FOR... the B-List has been inserted FIRST on the
list... although my address book is correctly sorted by Name...
alphabetically. B does not come first in the alphabet to my knowledge. ;)

Can not get it to change by switching. :(Guess I'll have to delete the
list, and create another or leave it out.
bj

 

I did, at one stage, have a group for my Family members with-in my
Addressbook, and it just listed in its correct place, under F for
Family, but then I didn't re-index my listing.

Sorry, cannot help, bj.

Daniel
   


I appreciate your efforts, Daniel, it's obviously a bug.  I just deleted 
the B list for now, because I don't use it as much as the friends list 
[A list].  :)

bj

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Is next/prev/up/etc. bar still in SeaMonkey (2.0)?

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Barclay

SeaMonkey 1.1.x used to automatically add a toolbar when an HTML document
contained links such as the following:

  link rel=prev href=box.html
  link rel=next href=visudet.html
  link rel=index href=indexlist.html title=index
  link rel=first href=cover.html

My SeaMonkey 2.0 doesn't do that, at least by default?

What's the name of that toolbar?

Does SeaMonkey 2.0 still provide it?

Daniel


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Re: making SeaMonkey the default browser

2010-09-16 Thread Rufus

Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Steven Dukarm wrote:

How do I make SeaMonkey my default browser? I have trolled through the
preferences and all of the menu options but I don't see anything.


You have to open Safari Prefs and set it there. Apple built Safari to be
the be-all when it comes to setting your Default.

Do you have to install Safari to permit you to put SeaMonkey as the 
default browser ? :-)


On a Mac, yes - I believe so.  But Macs come configured that way from 
the factory, so unless you removed Safari it should already be in your 
Applications folder.


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SM 2.0.8 question

2010-09-16 Thread Keith Whaley

I use SM 1.1.18 for the Mac.
Is the translation to SM 2.0.8 as simple as downloading it and installing it?
Have the makers and providers provided for as simple an installation as 
that, or ... heaven’s forbid ... one must effect the move in stages and with 
attendant file manipulations.


 ?

Thanks for any insight. I’d like to make the move, but at MY advanced age 
:-) I’m not all that swift anymore, and usually opt for the simpler way forward.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-09-16 8:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.


Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?


He never gave Ed a bug number either.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/1f6877a8cf4104f7

Phillip has a tendency to spread misinformation.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/957f0feadc3b2887
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/7d0d632d5f630d45
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/a5143bd71ff52728

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread NoAuthUser

On 9/16/2010 4:04 PM Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 8:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.


Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?


He never gave Ed a bug number either.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/1f6877a8cf4104f7


Phillip has a tendency to spread misinformation.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/957f0feadc3b2887

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/7d0d632d5f630d45

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/a5143bd71ff52728




Perhaps he was 'around the block' too many times?

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Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!

2010-09-16 Thread Beverly Howard

 don't support Cut-Copy-Paste 

There is an irritating issue that has been around for years.

For me I encounter it primarily, but unpredictably, in the email 
composer, where the edit/paste selection is greyed out and it's not 
possible to paste something that's on the clipboard until something is 
copied from the message that is being composed.


It doesn't happen regularly, and, when a copy function is executed, it 
does not happen again in the same session... which for me may go on for 
several days.


Next time it happens, check the edit menu and report back.

Beverly Howard


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Re: Is next/prev/up/etc. bar still in SeaMonkey (2.0)?

2010-09-16 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Daniel Barclay wrote:

SeaMonkey 1.1.x used to automatically add a toolbar when an HTML document
contained links such as the following:

link rel=prev href=box.html
link rel=next href=visudet.html
link rel=index href=indexlist.html title=index
link rel=first href=cover.html

My SeaMonkey 2.0 doesn't do that, at least by default?

What's the name of that toolbar?

Does SeaMonkey 2.0 still provide it?

Daniel



Possibly: View  Show/Hide  Site Navigation Bar  ??
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User Agent Switcher

2010-09-16 Thread Beverly Howard
I've been using User Agent Switcher 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/59/) for years and 
can't live without it on my primary computer.


However, today I tried installing it on another SM 1.1.17 computer and 
it would not install... click the download button and noting 
happens... even downloaded the xpi and tried to open it from the browser 
menu without success.


What am I missing?

Beverly Howard
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Re: Enlarging Bookmarks font size - Help please

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

starrin wrote:

Have old tired eyes.  Need to enlarge 2.07 bookmarks running in
sidebar on a Vista PC.
Have managed to get a larger font size for text, etc., but am stumped
as to where to look to enlarge bokmarks font size.  Can accept doing
away with the icons, boxes, bars that proceed the bookmarks, if that
is an issue.
TIA

Try the extension NoSquint.

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Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-16 Thread Beverly Howard

Way back in may Peter Potamus posted some user agent tips


Another option is to type in the address bar:

about:config

then right click on an entry and select New, String and
in the first box enter:

general.useragent.extra.xfake

change the xfake to anything you like

then in the next box put in:

not Firefox/2.0.0.20


Can someone help enlighten me on how the above works as I would have 
assumed that the way to deal with it would have been to replace the 
Seamonkey string with the firefox string.


While I have been using user agent switcher for a long time, the need to 
spoof firefox has gotten so common, I need a default fix.


There appears to be no option in user agent switcher to set the 
default other than by using about:config so, since it reverts to 
default for each session, need to get educated.


Thanks in advance,
Beverly Howard



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Re: making SeaMonkey the default browser

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Steven Dukarm wrote:

How do I make SeaMonkey my default browser? I have trolled through the
preferences and all of the menu options but I don't see anything.


You have to open Safari Prefs and set it there. Apple built Safari to be
the be-all when it comes to setting your Default.


Do you have to install Safari to permit you to put SeaMonkey as the
default browser ? :-)

On a Mac? Yes.  But you can set safari not to so anything if you wish.
They had in OS on the 68030 machines, a Control panel to do this.

They built this feature in to Safari and Mail. So that You would setup 
Safari and decide Oh I like that and forget about setting up otherwise 
same with Mail. It originally a Marketing Ploy.  I'd like to see it go 
back the way of OS 9, in this case.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.com  wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
a
free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
...


Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8


Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

Lee

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.



Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?

Daniel
Starting with  2.07  they built in a sanitizer code into SM in which I 
you belong to a HTML Group that allows sound and movies within the post. 
you can go to insert html and insert it. but after its posted its 
removed by default. The developer types are becoming paranoid and almost 
dictatorial like with what they want to allow you to do with your own 
computer. If people on the other end in the intended group want to see 
it or not its their discretion to open it or not.


Were it not for that ability to test in a Group sound code recently, I 
would not have figured out  a way to insert properly in my website. So 
until its turned off I am sticking with 2.0.6 untill it physically won't 
work. Oh its in the latest version of TB as well.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 8:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.


Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?


He never gave Ed a bug number either.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/1f6877a8cf4104f7

Phillip has a tendency to spread misinformation.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/957f0feadc3b2887
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/7d0d632d5f630d45
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/a5143bd71ff52728



Ty it yourself  heck I can even make a screen shot of the  the code if I 
open zip file I created of 2.0.7


look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6 
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd 
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup 
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime) 
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title) 
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt) 
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption 
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) 
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr


I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

 this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both.  Go look 
for the bugs yourself.  If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow - 
you not just kidding.


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Re: 2.08 update turns on Tabs

2010-09-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/16/10 2:30 PM, question wrote:
 Tabs are turned Back on After update ... WHY ..
 
 I hate Taps

For controlling browser tabs:

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit  Preferences].

In the Preferences window, select [Browser  Tabbed Browsing] under
Category (on the left side).

Make sure your settings are what you want.

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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/16/10 2:46 PM, Beverly Howard wrote:
 Way back in may Peter Potamus posted some user agent tips
 
  
 Another option is to type in the address bar:
 
 about:config
 
 then right click on an entry and select New, String and
 in the first box enter:
 
 general.useragent.extra.xfake
 
 change the xfake to anything you like
 
 then in the next box put in:
 
 not Firefox/2.0.0.20
 
 
 Can someone help enlighten me on how the above works as I would have 
 assumed that the way to deal with it would have been to replace the 
 Seamonkey string with the firefox string.
 
 While I have been using user agent switcher for a long time, the need to 
 spoof firefox has gotten so common, I need a default fix.
 
 There appears to be no option in user agent switcher to set the 
 default other than by using about:config so, since it reverts to 
 default for each session, need to get educated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Beverly Howard

Manually setting preference variables to spoof Firefox permanently will
cause server logs to report the use of Firefox for ALL Web sites you
visit.  In the end, if this practice becomes widespread, it will cause
Web developers to think NO ONE is using SeaMonkey.

It is much better to use PrefBar or UserAgentSwitcher.  These provide
easy ways to spoof Firefox when necessary and then revert back to not
spoofing.  However, the current versions of these extensions are not
necessarily compatible with SeaMonkey 1.x.  If you are not ready to
update to SeaMonkey 2.x, you need to search for older versions of these
extensions.

For a discussion of sniffing and spoofing, see my
http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/16/10 2:57 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.com  wrote:
 Robert Kaiser wrote:
 ... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
 a
 free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
 ...

 Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
 Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8

 Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

 Lee
 I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
 passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
 it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
 been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
 quite a few years.


 Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?

 Daniel
 Starting with  2.07  they built in a sanitizer code into SM in which I 
 you belong to a HTML Group that allows sound and movies within the post. 
 you can go to insert html and insert it. but after its posted its 
 removed by default. The developer types are becoming paranoid and almost 
 dictatorial like with what they want to allow you to do with your own 
 computer. If people on the other end in the intended group want to see 
 it or not its their discretion to open it or not.
 
 Were it not for that ability to test in a Group sound code recently, I 
 would not have figured out  a way to insert properly in my website. So 
 until its turned off I am sticking with 2.0.6 untill it physically won't 
 work. Oh its in the latest version of TB as well.
 

Are you sure this problem is not caused by filters in the newsgroup
servers?

Audio and video files embedded in messages travel the Internet as
attachments, not inline.  They become inline when received and merged by
your E-mail or news client (e.g., Thunderbird, SeaMonkey).  Furthermore,
they travel the Internet as binary attachments.  Many newsgroup servers
strip away binary attachments.

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Re: Is next/prev/up/etc. bar still in SeaMonkey (2.0)?

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Barclay

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Daniel Barclay wrote:

SeaMonkey 1.1.x used to automatically add a toolbar when an HTML document
contained links such as the following:

link rel=prev href=box.html

...


What's the name of that toolbar?

Does SeaMonkey 2.0 still provide it?

...


Possibly: View  Show/Hide  Site Navigation Bar  ??


Yes, that's it.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/16/10 2:57 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.com   wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
a
free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
...


Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8


Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

Lee

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.



Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?

Daniel

Starting with  2.07  they built in a sanitizer code into SM in which I
you belong to a HTML Group that allows sound and movies within the post.
you can go to inserthtml and insert it. but after its posted its
removed by default. The developer types are becoming paranoid and almost
dictatorial like with what they want to allow you to do with your own
computer. If people on the other end in the intended group want to see
it or not its their discretion to open it or not.

Were it not for that ability to test in a Group sound code recently, I
would not have figured out  a way to insert properly in my website. So
until its turned off I am sticking with 2.0.6 untill it physically won't
work. Oh its in the latest version of TB as well.



Are you sure this problem is not caused by filters in the newsgroup
servers?

Audio and video files embedded in messages travel the Internet as
attachments, not inline.  They become inline when received and merged by
your E-mail or news client (e.g., Thunderbird, SeaMonkey).  Furthermore,
they travel the Internet as binary attachments.  Many newsgroup servers
strip away binary attachments.


here is the actual code when you open about config:

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6 
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd 
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup 
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime) 
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title) 
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt) 
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption 
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) 
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 8:29 AM, Daniel wrote:
He never gave Ed a bug number either.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/1f6877a8cf4104f7

Phillip has a tendency to spread misinformation.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/957f0feadc3b2887
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/7d0d632d5f630d45
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/a5143bd71ff52728


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr

I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called |mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|. 
I assume you're referring to 
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been part 
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to 
customize which tags are allowed when you set View--Message_Body_As to 
Simple HTML.

See http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to spread 
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 8:29 AM, Daniel wrote:
He never gave Ed a bug number either.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/1f6877a8cf4104f7

Phillip has a tendency to spread misinformation.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/957f0feadc3b2887
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/7d0d632d5f630d45
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/a5143bd71ff52728


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr

I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called |mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|.
I assume you're referring to
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been part
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to
customize which tags are allowed when you set View--Message_Body_As to
Simple HTML.
Seehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to spread
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.

The same code is not in 2.0.6 and when I tried to send a test sound file 
in a Newsgroup that allows such. I tried several times. Then I read a a 
post about this sanitation code and what it was doing  and looked for 
there it is


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Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett

I use
   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) 
Gecko/20100504 SeaMonkey/2.0.5

  under WinXP Pro SP3

I had just closed all VISIBLE Seamonkey windows.
I wanted to send an email and clicked on appropriate shortcut, 
whose target was


C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe  -mail

It brought up Profile manager and I chose appropriate profile, 
which was the last one used.


It aborted saying profile was in use (didn't think to capture 
exact verbiage).


Clicked Start-Turn Off Computer-Restart
Chose same shortcut and all was fine.
Was this a freak or is there an actual problem.
I've been a satisfied used since days of Netscape 4.x and only 
update for cause. No plan to update until Seamonkey gets to 
=2.1 :)


TIA

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-09-16 7:14 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr

I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called |mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|.
I assume you're referring to
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been part
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to
customize which tags are allowed when you set View--Message_Body_As to
Simple HTML.
Seehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to spread
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.


The same code is not in 2.0.6


Really? Here's a screencast: http://screencast.com/t/ZGNiMTNkO


and when I tried to send a test sound file
in a Newsgroup that allows such. I tried several times. Then I read a a
post about this sanitation code and what it was doing and looked for
there it is


Set View--Message_Body_As to Original HTML.

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Re: making SeaMonkey the default browser

2010-09-16 Thread Leonidas Jones
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Steven Dukarm wrote:
 How do I make SeaMonkey my default browser? I have trolled through
the
 preferences and all of the menu options but I don't see anything.
 
 You have to open Safari Prefs and set it there. Apple built Safari
   to be
 the be-all when it comes to setting your Default.
 
 Do you have to install Safari to permit you to put SeaMonkey as the 
  default browser ? :-)
 
 On a Mac, yes - I believe so.  But Macs come configured that way from
 the factory, so unless you removed Safari it should already be in your
 Applications folder.

Yeah, Safari is built into a Mac in much the same way IE is built into
Windows.  The OS isn't quite as dependent on it, but it is always there.

I never tried to remove it, no real need to, but I am kind of curious as
to what would  happen if i did. 

The only Safaris I have ever actually installed have been beta test
builds.

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Re: SM 2.0.8 question

2010-09-16 Thread Leonidas Jones
Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 I use SM 1.1.18 for the Mac.
 Is the translation to SM 2.0.8 as simple as downloading it and
 installingit?
 Have the makers and providers provided for as simple an installation
 as 
 that, or ... heavens forbid ... one must effect the move in stages
 and with 
 attendant file manipulations.
 
  ?
 
 Thanks for any insight. Id like to make the move, but at MY advanced
 age 
 -) Im not all that swift anymore, and usually opt for the simpler
  way forward.
 
 keith whaley

Before any answer, what version of the OS are you running?  SeaMonkey
2.x will not run on Panther, for example.

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Re: User Agent Switcher

2010-09-16 Thread Leonidas Jones
Beverly Howard b...@bevhoward.com wrote:
 I've been using User Agent Switcher
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/59/) for years and
 can't live without it on my primary computer.
 
 However, today I tried installing it on another SM 1.1.17 computer and
 it would not install... click the download button and noting
 happens... even downloaded the xpi and tried to open it from the
 browser menu without success.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Beverly Howard

SeaMonkey 2 is so different then 1.1.17, that many extensions that will
run on one will not run on the other.

My first thought is that you are trying to install a version for 2.0.x
in 1.1.17.

Try looking for old versions that will be compatible.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 7:14 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr

I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called |mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|.
I assume you're referring to
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been part
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to
customize which tags are allowed when you set View--Message_Body_As to
Simple HTML.
Seehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to spread
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.


The same code is not in 2.0.6


Really? Here's a screencast:http://screencast.com/t/ZGNiMTNkO


and when I tried to send a test sound file
in a Newsgroup that allows such. I tried several times. Then I read a a
post about this sanitation code and what it was doing and looked for
there it is


Set View--Message_Body_As to Original HTML.


I keep that set to keep as set to original html.  all the time.
 I'll go to Bugzilla and see if I can locate the bugs I commented on 
the I will post the bug number here.


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Re: Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Richard Owlettrowl...@pcnetinc.com  wrote:

I use
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10)
Gecko/20100504 SeaMonkey/2.0.5
   under WinXP Pro SP3

I had just closed all VISIBLE Seamonkey windows.
I wanted to send an email and clicked on appropriate shortcut, whose
target was

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe  -mail

It brought up Profile manager and I chose appropriate profile, which
was the last one used.

It aborted saying profile was in use (didn't think to capture exact
verbiage).

Clicked Start-Turn Off Computer-Restart
Chose same shortcut and all was fine.
Was this a freak or is there an actual problem.
I've been a satisfied used since days of Netscape 4.x and only update
for cause. No plan to update until Seamonkey gets to=2.1 :)

TIA


The security updates are recommended.


I'll have to double-check, didn't recall there were any relevant 
security patches in 2.0.6 thru 2.0.8



 It's a scary internet.


Agreed, that's why I'm behind multiple firewalls and multiple 
filters on email/newsgroups. Also a fringe benefit of being on 
dial-up, my IP address is not the same between connections.




What happened to you is that the parent.lock file, which locks the
profile in use did not get deleted when you closed SeaMonkey. If it
happens again, you can avoid the restart by navigating to your  profile
folder, and deleting the file manually.


If I read you correctly, wouldn't that lose all my preferences 
and email?




To avoid the issue in most cases, close SeaMonkey by choosing Using the
file menu, rather then simply closing all the windows.







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Re: Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-16 Thread Leonidas Jones
Richard Owlett rowl...@pcnetinc.com wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Richard Owlettrowl...@pcnetinc.com  wrote:
 I use
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10)
 Gecko/20100504 SeaMonkey/2.0.5
under WinXP Pro SP3
 
 I had just closed all VISIBLE Seamonkey windows.
 I wanted to send an email and clicked on appropriate shortcut, whose
 target was
 
 C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe  -mail
 
 It brought up Profile manager and I chose appropriate profile, which
 was the last one used.
 
 It aborted saying profile was in use (didn't think to capture exact
 verbiage).
 
 Clicked Start-Turn Off Computer-Restart
 Chose same shortcut and all was fine.
 Was this a freak or is there an actual problem.
 I've been a satisfied used since days of Netscape 4.x and only
   update
 for cause. No plan to update until Seamonkey gets to=2.1 :)
 
 TIA
 
 The security updates are recommended.
 
 I'll have to double-check, didn't recall there were any relevant
 security patches in 2.0.6 thru 2.0.8
 
  It's a scary internet.
 
 Agreed, that's why I'm behind multiple firewalls and multiple filters
 on email/newsgroups. Also a fringe benefit of being on dial-up, my IP
 address is not the same between connections.
 
 
 What happened to you is that the parent.lock file, which locks the
 profile in use did not get deleted when you closed SeaMonkey. If it
 happens again, you can avoid the restart by navigating to your 
  profile
 folder, and deleting the file manually.
 
 If I read you correctly, wouldn't that lose all my preferences and
 email?
 
 
 To avoid the issue in most cases, close SeaMonkey by choosing Using
  the
 file menu, rather then simply closing all the windows.
 
 


I guess I was unclear.  I meant to say navigate to your profile location
and delete the parent.lock file, not the entire profile.

To close the program properly on Windows, click on File in the menubar,
then choose Exit.  This should ensure that the program actually closes,
and that the lock file will be deleted automatically.  Closing all the
windows will usually close the program, but not always, as you have
seen.

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Re: Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-16 Thread Richard Owlett

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Richard Owlettrowl...@pcnetinc.com  wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Richard Owlettrowl...@pcnetinc.com   wrote:

I use
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10)
Gecko/20100504 SeaMonkey/2.0.5
under WinXP Pro SP3

I had just closed all VISIBLE Seamonkey windows.
I wanted to send an email and clicked on appropriate shortcut, whose
target was

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe  -mail

It brought up Profile manager and I chose appropriate profile, which
was the last one used.

It aborted saying profile was in use (didn't think to capture exact
verbiage).

Clicked Start-Turn Off Computer-Restart
Chose same shortcut and all was fine.
Was this a freak or is there an actual problem.
I've been a satisfied used since days of Netscape 4.x and only
update
for cause. No plan to update until Seamonkey gets to=2.1 :)

TIA


The security updates are recommended.


I'll have to double-check, didn't recall there were any relevant
security patches in 2.0.6 thru 2.0.8


  It's a scary internet.


Agreed, that's why I'm behind multiple firewalls and multiple filters
on email/newsgroups. Also a fringe benefit of being on dial-up, my IP
address is not the same between connections.



What happened to you is that the parent.lock file, which locks the
profile in use did not get deleted when you closed SeaMonkey. If it
happens again, you can avoid the restart by navigating to your
profile
folder, and deleting the file manually.


If I read you correctly, wouldn't that lose all my preferences and
email?



To avoid the issue in most cases, close SeaMonkey by choosing Using
the
file menu, rather then simply closing all the windows.






I guess I was unclear.  I meant to say navigate to your profile location
and delete the parent.lock file, not the entire profile.


OK, makes sense now.



To close the program properly on Windows, click on File in the menubar,
then choose Exit.  This should ensure that the program actually closes,
and that the lock file will be deleted automatically.  Closing all the
windows will usually close the program, but not always, as you have
seen.



DUH , figured that out just AFTER hitting Send ;/
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Re: Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Leonidas Jones wrote:


To close the program properly on Windows, click on File in the
menubar, then choose Exit.  This should ensure that the program
actually closes, and that the lock file will be deleted
automatically.  Closing all the windows will usually close the
program, but not always, as you have seen.


Do you mean to say that the other options -- ALT-F4, CTRL-Q, and the [X] 
icon at the upper right corner of the screen -- are not equivalent to 
File | Close??? That would be astonishing to me (a nonprogrammer).


I've noticed that SM (and Mozilla before it, for that matter) 
occasionally fails to terminate correctly, leaving a process running 
that I can see in Task Manager but no visible window or tile in the 
taskbar. When that happens, it continues to retrieve mail, displaying 
the tray icon and playing the sound, but the user has no way to access 
the program. ALT-Tab cycles through all other running programs, but 
never shows SM. Even Task Manager doesn't show it in the list of running 
applications.


If I force the process to close in Task Manager using end process, I 
can then relaunch the program normally with no harm done.


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Re: Odd shutdown symptom

2010-09-16 Thread Leonidas Jones
Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 
 To close the program properly on Windows, click on File in the
 menubar, then choose Exit.  This should ensure that the program
 actually closes, and that the lock file will be deleted
 automatically.  Closing all the windows will usually close the
 program, but not always, as you have seen.
 
 Do you mean to say that the other options -- ALT-F4, CTRL-Q, and the
 [X] icon at the upper right corner of the screen -- are not equivalent
 to File | Close??? That would be astonishing to me (a nonprogrammer).
 
 I've noticed that SM (and Mozilla before it, for that matter)
 occasionally fails to terminate correctly, leaving a process running
 that I can see in Task Manager but no visible window or tile in the
 taskbar. When that happens, it continues to retrieve mail, displaying
 the tray icon and playing the sound, but the user has no way to access
 the program. ALT-Tab cycles through all other running programs, but
 never shows SM. Even Task Manager doesn't show it in the list of
 running applications.
 
 If I force the process to close in Task Manager using end process, I
 can then relaunch the program normally with no harm done.

I am not a programmer either, nor am I a regular Windows user, at least
not for a few years.  Perhaps I should let a more experienced Windows
use speak to the efficacy of FileExit, as opposed to the close box.  I
will note that it has been discussed a number of times in these groups
in the past.

I would think that ctrl+q would have the same effect as FileExit,
though again perhaps a more experienced Windows user should comment.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/16/10 3:41 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/16/10 2:57 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.com   wrote:
 Robert Kaiser wrote:
 ... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
 a
 free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
 ...

 Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
 Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8

 Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

 Lee
 I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
 passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
 it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
 been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
 quite a few years.


 Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?

 Daniel
 Starting with  2.07  they built in a sanitizer code into SM in which I
 you belong to a HTML Group that allows sound and movies within the post.
 you can go to inserthtml and insert it. but after its posted its
 removed by default. The developer types are becoming paranoid and almost
 dictatorial like with what they want to allow you to do with your own
 computer. If people on the other end in the intended group want to see
 it or not its their discretion to open it or not.

 Were it not for that ability to test in a Group sound code recently, I
 would not have figured out  a way to insert properly in my website. So
 until its turned off I am sticking with 2.0.6 untill it physically won't
 work. Oh its in the latest version of TB as well.


 Are you sure this problem is not caused by filters in the newsgroup
 servers?

 Audio and video files embedded in messages travel the Internet as
 attachments, not inline.  They become inline when received and merged by
 your E-mail or news client (e.g., Thunderbird, SeaMonkey).  Furthermore,
 they travel the Internet as binary attachments.  Many newsgroup servers
 strip away binary attachments.

 here is the actual code when you open about config:
 
 mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags
 
 html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6 
 ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd 
 blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup 
 span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime) 
 ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title) 
 img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt) 
 var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption 
 tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) 
 th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr
 

That is NOT code.  That is merely a preference variable and its
value-string.

Have you analyzed the executable code in SeaMonkey or Thunderbird to see
what it does with the preference variable
mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags?

From http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/108153/:
 The idea of the HTML Sanitizer is to reduce incoming HTML 
 to only the harmless structural markup. This reduces the amount
 of code that could be exploited for security/privacy attacks 
 significantly. Thus, we get the advantages of HTML (rich 
 information) without the disadvantages (security/privacy risk,
 sender-defined layout).  

From http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings:
 mailnews . display.html_sanitizer . allowed_tags 
 If they're not listed [in the value-string, then] 
 View - Message Body as - Original HTML strips them 

It's quite simple.  Just do not set [View  Message Body  Original HTML].

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/16/10 3:41 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/16/10 2:57 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rich Grayrbg_smth...@graysmail.comwrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

... SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as
a
free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.
...


Working fine on Mac (so far...) Sorry, no time to smoketest.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13)
Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8


Update also working on Tiger and Leopard.

Lee

I'm passing on this due to the new sanitizer Code I will continue
passing it up until its removed or someone comes up with a way to bypass
it. No one has the right to babysit me and tell me what I can do. I've
been using Netscape Since 3.0.1a Gold. So I've been around the block
quite a few years.



Sorry, Phillip, refresh my mind. What do you mean by sanitizer Code?

Daniel

Starting with  2.07  they built in a sanitizer code into SM in which I
you belong to a HTML Group that allows sound and movies within the post.
you can go to inserthtml and insert it. but after its posted its
removed by default. The developer types are becoming paranoid and almost
dictatorial like with what they want to allow you to do with your own
computer. If people on the other end in the intended group want to see
it or not its their discretion to open it or not.

Were it not for that ability to test in a Group sound code recently, I
would not have figured out  a way to insert properly in my website. So
until its turned off I am sticking with 2.0.6 untill it physically won't
work. Oh its in the latest version of TB as well.



Are you sure this problem is not caused by filters in the newsgroup
servers?

Audio and video files embedded in messages travel the Internet as
attachments, not inline.  They become inline when received and merged by
your E-mail or news client (e.g., Thunderbird, SeaMonkey).  Furthermore,
they travel the Internet as binary attachments.  Many newsgroup servers
strip away binary attachments.


here is the actual code when you open about config:

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
span(lang,title) acronym(title) abbr(title) del(title,cite,datetime)
ins(title,cite,datetime) q(cite) a(href,name,title)
img(alt,title,longdesc,src) base(href) area(alt) applet(alt) object(alt)
var samp dfn address kbd code cite s strike tt b i table(align) caption
tr(align,valign) td(rowspan,colspan,align,valign)
th(rowspan,colspan,align,valign) wbr



That is NOT code.  That is merely a preference variable and its
value-string.

Have you analyzed the executable code in SeaMonkey or Thunderbird to see
what it does with the preference variable
mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags?

Fromhttp://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/108153/:

The idea of the HTML Sanitizer is to reduce incoming HTML
to only the harmless structural markup. This reduces the amount
of code that could be exploited for security/privacy attacks
significantly. Thus, we get the advantages of HTML (rich
information) without the disadvantages (security/privacy risk,
sender-defined layout).


Fromhttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings:

mailnews . display.html_sanitizer . allowed_tags
If they're not listed [in the value-string, then]
View -  Message Body as -  Original HTML strips them


It's quite simple.  Just do not set [View  Message Body  Original HTML].

I'm still looking for bug on this problem but can't remember the wording 
of the bug.


By the way I just tried 2.0.8 think maybe its a bug. But  the problem 
still exist.


what ever you type in in the Insert  HTML  is ignored you can type all 
day and the results will be the same. In 2.0.6 and lower what ever you 
type in  insert  HTML  box  will be played.


I've even stated up 2.0.8 in safe mode and still there.

So I'm sticking with 2.0. I've even set update to check for updated 
extensions but not updated SeaMonkey.


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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:55:26 -0400, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
 I wonder why the Lightning instructions don't say that?

 Their instructions create the clear impression that sound.wav is
 embedded in calendar.jar -- so one would not even think to look
 elsewhere.


 There are instructions? News to me.

 YW!
 
 -
 How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
 It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
 directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
 with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
 -

And where did you find these instructions?

Phil

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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com

-
How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-


And where did you find these instructions?

Phil


http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/faq.html#alarm_sound


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Lightning Calendar - Bug?

2010-09-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com

I just observed that in 2.0.8 when Lightning Calendar
is open in a Tab the Delete key does not function.

Very odd.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-16 Thread Ubiquity

Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 7:14 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-09-16 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:


Ty it yourself heck I can even make a screen shot of the the code if I
open zip file I created of 2.0.7

look for this when you do about config

mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags

html head title body p br div(lang,title) h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6
ul(type,compact) ol(type,compact,start) li(type,value) dl dt dd
blockquote(type,cite) pre noscript noframes strong em sub sup
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I'm tired of people especially Chris That I am some type of Crackpot.

Check for this in the about config

this was in version 2.0.7

JoeS had a bug in on in TB and SM and I've commented on both. Go look
for the bugs yourself. If you think I have fuse about ready to Blow -
you not just kidding.


There is no pref called |mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed.tags|.
I assume you're referring to
|mailnews.display.html_sanitizer.allowed_tags|. That pref has been part
of SeaMonkey/Thunderbird/Mozilla/Netscape for years. It allows you to
customize which tags are allowed when you set View--Message_Body_As to
Simple HTML.
Seehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML,
http://ilias.ca/archive/netscape/mailnewsfaq/ChangeSimpleHTML.html.

I didn't call you a crackpot. I said that you have a tendency to
spread
misinformation. If you don't like it, back up your claims with links.


The same code is not in 2.0.6


Really? Here's a screencast:http://screencast.com/t/ZGNiMTNkO


and when I tried to send a test sound file
in a Newsgroup that allows such. I tried several times. Then I read a a
post about this sanitation code and what it was doing and looked for
there it is


Set View--Message_Body_As to Original HTML.


I keep that set to keep as set to original html. all the time.
I'll go to Bugzilla and see if I can locate the bugs I commented on the
I will post the bug number here.



Oh Phillip, don't you just love it!  No Phillip, you're 
not dumb, you're not stupid, or you're not an idiot. 
You know what you're talking about, but the so-called 
experts sure don't.


To everyone else: Compose a new message, in html.  Now, 
click on Insert, HTML, and put the following script in 
the box:


iframe marginheight=0 marginwidth=0
src=http://newmail.monsterserve.com/keepout/movies/zip.wav;
 type=audio/x-mpeg frameborder=0 height=16 
width=144/iframe



then click on the insert button, save the message, then 
go into your drafts folder, click on the message, then 
click on View, Message Source, and tell me what 
happened to the html that you just put in.


Phillip, I think everyone owes you an apology, 
especially those so-called experts.


Oh, by the way, in order to see what Phillip is talking 
about, make sure you're using the newest seamonkey or 
thunderbird for this testing.

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