Email problem

2010-09-29 Thread ldj1002
All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I 
have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and 
reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox 
full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this.

L.D.
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Eliminating 'remembered' data

2010-09-29 Thread HenriK
With SeaMonkey 2.06 running under XP-Pro SP3 + all subsequent XP 
upgrades, I find that with certain websites where I fill in data to use 
the site I am visiting, SeaMonkey has 'remembered' what I entered the 
last time I was using that particular website and this previously 
entered data automatically pops up as I start to fill in the box where 
the information previously entered.  SeaMonkey is not 'remembering' 
passwords that I enter, however.


I am uncomfortable, for security reasons, with SeaMonkey keeping 
previously entered data somewhere.  What part of the program is 
responsible for this and how do I get the 'remembering' to stop?


In case this could be an add-on caused problem, I have Better Privacy, 
ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Down Them All, JavaScript Debugger, and 
NoScript installed.


Help!  All advice, suggestions, and/or pointers to appropriate tutorials 
will be most appreciated.


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Re: automatic upgrade without notice or (explicit) permission

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Phillip Jones wrote:


see here: http://screencast.com/t/NjZlZmJiNGYt


Thanks for clarifying that.

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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-29 Thread d...@kd4e.com

> Bill Davidsen wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

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How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-


And where did you find these instructions?

Phil


http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/faq.html#alarm_sound


Is that info regarding Lightning or Sunbird? Never used Sunbird, but
there does seem to be some info from when it was the only calendar. Or
only one being documented. ;-)


Since Lightning has replaced Sunbird and the page describes things
in common to both, the transition from Sunbird to Lightning, the
possible interaction between them, and the installation and use of
Lightning it is reasonable to anticipate that these instructions
apply to Lightning (in the absence of any text stating otherwise).

Do you have a reason to believe that these instructions are not
reliable?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Robert Kaiser wrote:

The Mozilla community discovered a crash some of our users have been
seeing at startup after updates to our previous releases. To fix that
issue, SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a
free download from www.seamonkey-project.org.

Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Didn't see the problem so can't say 
if you fixed it, but looks good to me. Linux Fedora 13.


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Re: Invisible mailbox

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Rex wrote:

I thought I'll configure Hotmail via POP on Seamonkey, by copying over
the settings from Thunderbird after it autoconfigures the account.
I was able to create an account and connect and download mail (to local
folders), but there's nothing to be seen there. Yet I keep getting new
mail notifications for this account. What's happening?

Did you have the mail messages dropped in another mailbox? Is it downloaded when 
available or do you need to click [Get Msgs] to grab it?


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Re: Lightning Calendar? Sound.wav file?

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

-
How can I change the calendar alarm sound?
It is packed in the calendar.jar file in your applications chrome
directory. The filename is sound.wav. You have to unpack calendar.jar
with a zip program (like WinZip), change sound.wav and repack it.
-


And where did you find these instructions?

Phil


http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/faq.html#alarm_sound

Is that info regarding Lightning or Sunbird? Never used Sunbird, but there does 
seem to be some info from when it was the only calendar. Or only one being 
documented. ;-)


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-29 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Bill Davidsen wrote: At some point I don't care what it is doing, it
can't have half a CPU for hours to do it. But this hang seems to be a
Windows thing, doesn't happen much if at all with recent Linux 32 bit
version.


Hours to clean-up?  That sounds silly.  Seconds, minutes, maybe.

More than one person has reported what seems like a memory leak in
the Linux version as well.

It is unclear yet whether it is SM, Flash, or some other plug-in or
associated app but there are odd lags and other problems that seem to
go away when one reboots.

Are these reports being documented and studied in a bug report?

Perhaps it is certain video drivers and not SM at all.

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Re: Lightning Calendar?

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Thank you WLS and Rickles!

It installed fine on the laptop.

Now, if I install it also on my Netbook can I sync them?

I see you didn't get an answer on this one, I'd like to do that too, if it 
provides reminders wherever I'm logged in at the time.


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Re: Seamonkey migration question

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Bill Spikowski wrote:

I created a new profile for Seamonkey 2 and am trying to manually
transfer important data from Seamonkey 1.19. I've figured out how to
move the address book and bookmarks but can't figure out where to put
msgfilterrules.dat and training.dat, also the *.s and *.w files that I
usually move -- are there instructions posted anywhere?


What problem did you have using the built-in migration? I have migrated multiple 
accounts and machines, most with multiple profiles, and the problems seem to be 
limited:

- you lose all your form fill data
- you have to migrate your profiles one at a time manually
  (you can let auto migrate do the first if you wish)

I don't see any benefit from doing the migrate manually, I don't think you can 
do a better job and you risk messing things up.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Rick Merrill wrote:

denewton wrote:

Ed Mullen a écrit :

denewton wrote:

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

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Hello
When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running.
And
when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the
task ?
Bertrand


I am not clear what you are asking.

Yes, when SeaMonkey is running you will see seamonkey.exe in
taskmanager.

When you close SeaMonkey the task will disappear from taskmanager.

What is it you want to know?


Hello
u...@domain.invalid said that the seamonkey process continue after
closing. It seams that Seamonkey is back running. But this option was
with seamonkey 1.x and non with seamonkey 2.x
Bertrand


In 2.0 is it not likely that SM is just emptying the trash and possibly
"Compacting Folders"?

At some point I don't care what it is doing, it can't have half a CPU for hours 
to do it. But this hang seems to be a Windows thing, doesn't happen much if at 
all with recent Linux 32 bit version.


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Re: Why so many "up-grades"?

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bill Davidsen schrieb:

Robert, I agree with the "should never break" part, but in practice
2.0.7 had major issue for some people and worked poorly or not at all.


I didn't have any issue with add-ons, and that is the topic here. The
other one was unfortunate and most of those were an older failure
existing for multiple version that was just uncovered by a mostly
unrelated change.


Changes to SM break add-ons from other sites,
which were installed to fix a perceived problem in many cases.


I haven't heard stories of any 2.0.x updates breaking any add-ons that
were marked compatible with 2.0.*, independent of what site they are from.


From my testing of 2.1 I would say that a clear spec of how to write
conforming extensions, possibly with some trivial example, is desirable.


Feel free to write one up, we are an open community. We are trying to
write up and maintain documents about the major changes, but we are
simply unable to document every single change, and we have to create the
actual application with a very small team first, else there simply isn't
anything to document.

I'm not talking about a change log, I'm talking about documenting the API. If I 
write code for any UNIX-like OS I have a list of system calls, provided by the 
kernel, and as Bill Plauger said "A standard is a contract between the operating 
system and the user." If I write in C I have a library, and those calls may be 
extended but will not change under me. Same thing for GNOME, X11, and KDE (and 
I'm told Windows starting with Win95). There seems to be no API for any Mozilla 
software, which is why every theme, add-on, and extension needs to change with 
every version.


It appears that is the chosen development model, I wish you well with it.

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Re: Automatically quote the original message when replying anomaly

2010-09-29 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote:

John Doue wrote:

On 9/28/2010 2:29 PM, Daniel wrote:

John Doue wrote:

I have double-checked that "Automatically quote the original message
when replying" is disabled in 2.08 but even if no text is highlighted,
the original message is quoted when I reply to it.

On the other hand, if I highlight only part of the original message,
only the highlighted parted is, as expected, quoted.

Is this problem specific to my machine or ... ? Thanks


John, I've never thought about replying without quoting the message to
which you are replying (*WHY* would you want to do that, in any case??)
but just tried it, on my mail account and this News account, and both
gave me addressed and subjected but otherwise blank screens.

So I guess it's a problem on your machine! Unless it's because I'm using
SM 2.1a2.

Daniel


Daniel, thanks for this indication the problem seems to be specific to
my machine.

But if you have no idea why someone might want to reply to emails
without quoting the original, you might want to consider space,
bandwidth, clarity of presentation just to name some considerations.

With snail mail, you do not reply to a letter by systematically
attaching the one you are replying to. The comparison has its limits,
granted, but still ...


John, until about fifteen months ago I was on Dial-up, so am still very
aware of the size of e-mails (cure those who post/email in HTML) but I
found that very, very, few e-mails exceeded about 10KBytes.

I can, sort of, see your point that the person to whom I'm replying will
already have a copy of the e-mail they sent me, but still I think it is
easier to read if all the info is there right in front of me!!

But, to each their own, I guess!



SM is qouting the received mail with in front "X wrote:"

I appréciate this, and when i feel that the quoting is not useful, i 
remove it before composing my reply or by eliminating superflous 
unneeded lines.

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Revised questions Re: prefs.js / user.js problems

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Owlett

Richard Owlett wrote:

Historical background
1. I started out when Netscape 4.x was latest and greatest
Upgraded over years to Mozilla and then Seamonkey
2. Up until ~4 years ago I was doing some informal support for two
visually impaired naive users at church. I set my system up
to emulate the features they typically had problems with.
3. I have some ideas about what makes a page legible, primarily
use black text on white background wherever possible. So I
set many things up to override the page designers choices.
4. My system is WinXP Pro SP3. I have no idea (nor really care)
how IE was configured by my vendor. I use it *ONLY* to access
MS update site.

The problem
Cruddy conflicting settings have been inherited which prevent some pages
from displaying properly. The most annoying problem is that menus
appearing when you hover over a link have a transparent background
making it illegible (text overwriting text). The pages display properly
in a Firefox installation to which I have access.


This symptom has was apparently solved during update from 
SeaMonkey 1.x to 2.y. One of the pages I've read mentioned that 
some problems are cleaned up by the migration from ver 1 to 2.





Questions
1. I'm about to upgrade from Seamonkey 2.0.5. I wish to leave
all of my existing profiles *UNTOUCHED*. I want my updated
SeaMonkey to act as if it was first browser ever installed.
HOW?


NoOp straitened me out on this issue.
Short answer - install to new directory *AND* create a new 
profile by launching with profile manager option.



2. Where are all the options in prefs.js / user.js documented?


open


3. Is there anything in prefs.js that cannot be forced to a
preferred state by a line in user.js.


open - I suspect this may be important as I do some abnormal things.


4. Since I'm obviously out of date should I be learning about
style sheets? If so, what?

Thank you.



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Success on question 1 - was [Re: Suggestion failed -was [Re: prefs.js / user.js problems]]

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Owlett

Richard Owlett wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 09/28/2010 07:42 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

Install it to a different location& use a different user profile.
...


I suspected (and hoped) that would be the answer. Thanks, here goes ;)




By choosing custom install I was able to install files in a
different directory. *HOWEVER* I was not given option to create a
new profile. I chose to create shortcut on the Desktop - it
created *THREE* - all start the browser and all show that the
program is to be launched in the old directory.


Umm... performing a fresh install to a different directory has nothing
to do with any previous installs with the exception that it will use the
common /mozilla/seamonkey folder& profile. That is why I stated 'use a
different user profile'. You could have done that (and still can) by
restarting with the profile manager (seamonkey -P) or renaming the
profile in the mozilla/seamonkey folder. Sorry, I figured that since
you'd been using the application since Netscape 4 that you would have
known :-(




I could say "I've been compounding errors since Netscape days" or "I
know enough to be dangerous". :/

Seriously, I haven't done any tweaking for ~3 years and when updating
just accepted defaults, which meant inheriting all my old problems. So
this time it's a case of "I thought I remembered how to ...".

I've created a new profile and am following links about manual profile
migration. That should refresh my memory on critical issues and prompt
me to ask intelligent questions.

Thank you and now to start reading.




Success has been achieved on the question you answered. And the 
reading reminded me how I got into the position I was. I've more 
questions, but they belong in another thread &/or sub-thread.

Thanks again.


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Re: Automatically quote the original message when replying anomaly

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel

John Doue wrote:

On 9/28/2010 2:29 PM, Daniel wrote:

John Doue wrote:

I have double-checked that "Automatically quote the original message
when replying" is disabled in 2.08 but even if no text is highlighted,
the original message is quoted when I reply to it.

On the other hand, if I highlight only part of the original message,
only the highlighted parted is, as expected, quoted.

Is this problem specific to my machine or ... ? Thanks


John, I've never thought about replying without quoting the message to
which you are replying (*WHY* would you want to do that, in any case??)
but just tried it, on my mail account and this News account, and both
gave me addressed and subjected but otherwise blank screens.

So I guess it's a problem on your machine! Unless it's because I'm using
SM 2.1a2.

Daniel


Daniel, thanks for this indication the problem seems to be specific to
my machine.

But if you have no idea why someone might want to reply to emails
without quoting the original, you might want to consider space,
bandwidth, clarity of presentation just to name some considerations.

With snail mail, you do not reply to a letter by systematically
attaching the one you are replying to. The comparison has its limits,
granted, but still ...


John, until about fifteen months ago I was on Dial-up, so am still very 
aware of the size of e-mails (cure those who post/email in HTML) but I 
found that very, very, few e-mails exceeded about 10KBytes.


I can, sort of, see your point that the person to whom I'm replying will 
already have a copy of the e-mail they sent me, but still I think it is 
easier to read if all the info is there right in front of me!!


But, to each their own, I guess!

Daniel
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Re: Suggestion failed -was [Re: prefs.js / user.js problems]

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Owlett

NoOp wrote:

On 09/28/2010 07:42 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

Install it to a different location&  use a different user profile.
...


I suspected (and hoped) that would be the answer. Thanks, here goes ;)




By choosing custom install I was able to install files in a
different directory. *HOWEVER* I was not given option to create a
new profile. I chose to create shortcut on the Desktop - it
created *THREE* - all start the browser and all show that the
program is to be launched in the old directory.


Umm... performing a fresh install to a different directory has nothing
to do with any previous installs with the exception that it will use the
common /mozilla/seamonkey folder&  profile. That is why I stated 'use a
different user profile'. You could have done that (and still can) by
restarting with the profile manager (seamonkey -P) or renaming the
profile in the mozilla/seamonkey folder. Sorry, I figured that since
you'd been using the application since Netscape 4 that you would have
known :-(




I could say "I've been compounding errors since Netscape days" or 
"I know enough to be dangerous". :/


Seriously, I haven't done any tweaking for ~3 years and when 
updating just accepted defaults, which meant inheriting all my 
old problems. So this time it's a case of "I thought I remembered 
how to ...".


I've created a new profile and am following links about manual 
profile migration. That should refresh my memory on critical 
issues and prompt me to ask intelligent questions.


Thank you and now to start reading.


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