Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-22 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 12/21/2010 12:03 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

No schrieb:

... is this possibly being planned for SM?


Where have you seen that this is actually being implemented? Last I
heard, they came back from thinking more heavily about it with not
implementing it because it would make advertisers go for even harder to
see methods to doing the tracking.



http://paidcontent.org/article/419-mozilla-ceo-do-not-track-option-will-be-in-firefox-4/

Also of note is the ACTUAL quote is:

Technology that supports something like a ’Do Not Track’ button is 
needed and we will deliver in the first part of next year, Mozilla 
chief executive Gary Kovacs said while providing a glimpse at Firefox 4 
at the Mozilla’s headquarters in Mountain View, California.


Which is decidedly different than:

when Firefox 4 is released early next year, it will include an 
anti-tracking option


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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-22 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 12/21/2010 11:22 AM, No wrote:

... is this possibly being planned for SM? I think it would be great,
instead of my having to use several programs and being proactive in
terms of clearing cache, cookies etc.. to slow this down.

Or, if anyone knows of a program which can be installed to prevent or
slow this down, please let me know.



If and when this is implemented in Firefox, I will help spearhead the 
determination of how hard it is to adopt for SeaMonkey. As to which 
SeaMonkey release[s] it could make it into, it is much too early to tell.


Our collective Council may also deem the feature, (as firefox 
implements it) a bad thing, and reject it wholesale. Once there is a 
viable implementation in the wild (Gecko Proper?) we can look at this 
more closely.


Thanks for the thoughts though.

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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread WLS

NO wrote:

Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a way
to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval of messages?

TIA - Bo1953


Do you have Spam options on Yahoo to Empty Spam Folder Immediately?

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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Kaiser

Rufus schrieb:

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-mozilla-ceo-do-not-track-option-will-be-in-firefox-4/


Interesting, as 
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2010/12/more_frustrations_wi_1.html 
sounds different to me.


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Re: Is there a setting how long the timeout is for e-mail and newsgroup/usenet server connections?

2010-12-22 Thread Ant

On 12/22/2010 8:39 AM PT, Ant typed:


Hello.

I noticed EarthLink's e-mail and outsourced GigaNews servers suck and
usually takes a while to connect. Is there a way to make this timeout
longer?

Thank you in advance. :)


Oh and with SM v2.0x obviously. :)
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Is there a setting how long the timeout is for e-mail and newsgroup/usenet server connections?

2010-12-22 Thread Ant

Hello.

I noticed EarthLink's e-mail and outsourced GigaNews servers suck and 
usually takes a while to connect. Is there a way to make this timeout 
longer?


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

2010-12-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello d...@kd4e.com,

Am 2010-12-20 20:32:45, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 More and more sites are taking longer to load because
 they are saddled with some Google-garbage called
 Google analytics.
 
 I can manually hit Stop and then Reload and get around
 it but is there an add-on or something that will trap the
 Google nonsense and automate Stop and Reload?

If you use bind9 as your nameserver try this:

[ '/etc/bind/DNS_TRASH' ]---
@   86400   IN SOA  dns.yourserver.here.
hostmaster.yourserver.here. ( 1292824838 10800 3600 604800 86400 )

IN NS   dns.yourserver.here.

pagead2 IN A127.0.0.1
www IN A127.0.0.1


[ '/etc/bind/named.conf.local' ]
zone googlesyndication.com {
typemaster;
file/etc/bind/DNS_TRASH;
};
zone google-analytics.com {
typemaster;
file/etc/bind/DNS_TRASH;
};


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No download of new e-mails after entering an invalid password once?

2010-12-22 Thread Ant

Hello.

I don't know if it is just me or it is a bug. I use EarthLink's e-mail 
server with its POP3 and SMTP. I manually do not save my password. I 
noticed if I entered an invalid password, SM2 will tell me it is not 
correct so I retry with the correct one BUT no new e-mails download even 
though there are new ones on the server. So I tell SM2 to recheck and it 
redownloads again. Also, I do not keep e-mails on servers after 
downloading them too.


Has anyone seen this weird glitch? Is it just me or it happens to you 
guys too?

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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-22 Thread Rufus

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Rufus schrieb:

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-mozilla-ceo-do-not-track-option-will-be-in-firefox-4/



Interesting, as
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2010/12/more_frustrations_wi_1.html
sounds different to me.

Robert Kaiser



...so as usual, it's all clear as mud and probably will be for some 
time, until someone actually *does* something...or not.


What I wonder about now is what will happen in light of this new net 
neutrality push that's going on...stop the whole train as far as 
privacy goes?  Dunno...only time will tell...


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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:52:54 -0500, /NO/:

 Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a
 way to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval
 of messages?

Do you use POP or IMAP for accessing Yahoo Mail?

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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread Rob Lindauer

WLS wrote:

NO wrote:

Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a way
to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval of
messages?

TIA - Bo1953


Do you have Spam options on Yahoo to Empty Spam Folder Immediately?



NO, (the OP, not a negative), it's really a Yahoo question, not a 
Mozilla question.


I don't get downloads of what my ISP (ATT Yahoo mail) considers to be 
spam - it goes in a separate spam folder that I must log into the ATT 
Yahoo mail site to view / act on.


From Yahoo mail, take Options -- More Options, select Spam on the 
left nav bar, and then click the Spamguard checkbox (automatically 
send suspected spam to my spam folder).


Of course, it could be that your version of Yahoo mail works differently 
from mine.



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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread No

WLS wrote:

NO wrote:

Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a way
to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval of
messages?

TIA - Bo1953


Do you have Spam options on Yahoo to Empty Spam Folder Immediately?


WLS,

No I do not have that option enabled, as there are quite a few valid 
emails going to the spam box, which is a problem.


I usually go to the spam box twice a week to clean it up and etc..

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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/21/10 8:22 AM, No wrote:
 ... is this possibly being planned for SM? I think it would be great, 
 instead of my having to use several programs and being proactive in 
 terms of clearing cache, cookies etc.. to slow this down.
 
 Or, if anyone knows of a program which can be installed to prevent or 
 slow this down, please let me know.
 
 Thanks - Bo

Here is what I did in SeaMonkey 2.0.x under WindowsXP

I set my preferences under [Privacy  Security  Cookies] to Allow
cookies for the originating Website only.

I used the Cookie Manager to delete all persistent cookies except for a
very few that I really want to keep.  After closing SeaMonkey, I copied
cookies.sqlite in my profile into a new file named
cookies.sqlite-backup.  I created a DOS script to run in place of
directly launching SeaMonkey; the script does the following:

1.  If cookies.sqlite-backup exists, delete cookies.sqlite.

2.  If cookies.sqlite-backup exists, copy it to make a new cookies.sqlite.

3.  Launch SeaMonkey.

Actually, the script does #1 and #2 for two of my profiles.

In a third profile, I need to retain all cookies.  I also need to allow
third-party cookies.  I use that third profile for accessing my
financial accounts.  Logging-in to the financial Web sites and
navigating through them is complicated if all cookies have not been
retained, and it is impossible without third-party cookies (cookies from
the domains of the third-party sources of the Web sites).  Of course, I
use that third profile ONLY for accessing my financial accounts.

A fourth profile is used for guests.  That one has preferences under
[Privacy  Security] set to Always clear my private data when I close
SeaMonkey.  All checkboxes under When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my
private data, it should erase: are checked.  The checkbox for Ask me
before clearing private data is not checked in this profile.

In addition to all this, I installed BetterPrivacy from
http://netticat.ath.cx/extensions.html to remove any Flash cookies.  I
set the option to remove them when I start SeaMonkey instead of when I
terminate.  That way, any Flash cookie set by some other application
(e.g., IE) since the last time I used SeaMonkey gets removed before I
start browsing with SeaMonkey.  Because Flash cookies are not
profile-specific and are stored outside of the SeaMonkey environment, I
only had to install BetterPrivacy in the one profile that is always
chosen when I first launch SeaMonkey.

Yes, setting this up took some effort.  Once it is setup, however, no
further effort is required.  (Yes, there is some effort if I want to add
or delete a SeaMonkey cookie in cookies.sqlite-backup. That happens
rarely.)

By the way, because my cable modem is always on, it has the effect of
giving me a static IP address.  Every so often, I force a new IP address.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread No

Rob Lindauer wrote:

WLS wrote:

NO wrote:

Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a way
to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval of
messages?

TIA - Bo1953


Do you have Spam options on Yahoo to Empty Spam Folder Immediately?



NO, (the OP, not a negative), it's really a Yahoo question, not a
Mozilla question.

I don't get downloads of what my ISP (ATT Yahoo mail) considers to be
spam - it goes in a separate spam folder that I must log into the ATT
Yahoo mail site to view / act on.

 From Yahoo mail, take Options -- More Options, select Spam on the
left nav bar, and then click the Spamguard checkbox (automatically
send suspected spam to my spam folder).

Of course, it could be that your version of Yahoo mail works differently
from mine.





Rob -

Currently, my spam box is being used by Yahoo, which is fine. My 
question is, is there a way to not have SM go to the spam folder to 
retrieve messages?


This way I can periodically clean it up myself and the messages which 
are not spam be placed in the general Y mail folder.


Thank you for the input.

Bo1953
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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread No

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:52:54 -0500, /NO/:


Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a
way to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval
of messages?


Do you use POP or IMAP for accessing Yahoo Mail?



Stanimir,

I use POP to access Y mail.

Thank you,

Bo1953
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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread Rob Lindauer

No wrote:



Currently, my spam box is being used by Yahoo, which is fine. My
question is, is there a way to not have SM go to the spam folder to
retrieve messages?



My SM does NOT download anything from the Yahoo spam folder; it 
downloads just email from my Yahoo inbox.


I see no (ATT) Yahoo config option to specify whether the spam folder 
should be downloaded.  Certainly there's no such SM option.


If your SM downloads your Yahoo spam folder, I imagine there must be 
some such option in your Yahoo that's not in mine.  I have no other 
ideas but for you to contact your ISP.


Regards, RL

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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-22 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 12/22/2010 9:37 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Rufus schrieb:

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-mozilla-ceo-do-not-track-option-will-be-in-firefox-4/



Interesting, as
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2010/12/more_frustrations_wi_1.html
sounds different to me.



Basically I read Asa's post as, We tried one way, it sucked. We are 
working on trying a different way. Couple that with Gary's quote (as 
CEO) and I feel the story on what they hope to achieve is clear.


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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread No

Lance Courtland wrote:

No wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:52:54 -0500, /NO/:


Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a
way to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval
of messages?




No:

What settings do you use to have SM connect and automatically download
email? I used to use YPops, but it doesn't seem to work any more. I have
a free yahoo email account.

Lance



Lance,

I, too, used YPops which went kapoot! I changed my yahoo US account to 
an Asian account which permits dl without using yahoo's paid access to 
do this.


Try it...

Bo
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Password locations in SM 2?

2010-12-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
I inadvertently cleared all my passwords using the Privacy  Security 
checkbox, but I have good backups and another machine with all the info.


Can I simply copy a file from there back into my existing installation? 
If so, which file?


It would save me the trouble of rebuilding 40-50 passwords for all kinds 
of sites, most of them nuisance logins, but also including POP and SMTP 
passwords.


TIA

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Re: Is this new?

2010-12-22 Thread jtjohns...@jtjohnston.net

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

jtjohns...@jtjohnston.net wrote:


This will not fix the problem. Every time I click on mail  Newsgroups
this page opens:
http://jtjohnston.net/screenshot.jpg
not my inbox. This is new since the last automatic update.


That IS mail and newsgroups, but instead of displaying the contents of
some folder, it's displaying the contents of the account. Select a
folder such as Inbox, then close and relaunch SM, and it should open at
that folder.


I did. It doesn't remember it.
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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Wed, 22 Dec 2010 23:14:28 +0200, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
 Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:52:54 -0500, /NO/:
 
 Hello all, I have a yahoo account and I need to know if there is a
 way to keep the spam folder from being downloaded in the retrieval
 of messages?
 
 Do you use POP or IMAP for accessing Yahoo Mail?

Well, I'm not sure if there are any settings in the Web UI to
customize the POP behavior but Yahoo provides free IMAP access [1]
for some time now - I'm using it and generally recommend it.  You
could always define filters to (or do manually) move certain
messages to Local Folders.

[1]
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/msg/8750ae9a9e89e335

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Re: Yahoo Spam Folder....

2010-12-22 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:08:08 -0500, /No/:
 Lance Courtland wrote:

 What settings do you use to have SM connect and automatically download
 email? I used to use YPops, but it doesn't seem to work any more.
 I have a free yahoo email account.
 
 I, too, used YPops which went kapoot! I changed my yahoo US account
 to an Asian account which permits dl without using yahoo's paid
 access to do this.

Do you have the POP  Forwarding section in the options (in the
Web UI) enabled without being subscribed for Yahoo Mail Plus?

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Re: Is this new?

2010-12-22 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-20 6:29 PM, jtjohns...@jtjohnston.net wrote:

Is this new?
When I open Sea Monkey mail, the Sea Monkey Mail preference/settings
(email/accounts/Advanced Features) page opens, not my inbox.
Wh. I want my default inbox back!


Set your email account to check for new messages at startup. That should 
make SeaMonkey open in your inbox.


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Re: Password locations in SM 2?

2010-12-22 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-22 11:15 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I inadvertently cleared all my passwords using the Privacy  Security
checkbox, but I have good backups and another machine with all the info.

Can I simply copy a file from there back into my existing installation?
If so, which file?

It would save me the trouble of rebuilding 40-50 passwords for all kinds
of sites, most of them nuisance logins, but also including POP and SMTP
passwords.


There are two files:
signons.sqlite and key3.db

They can be found in your profile folder. See 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles.


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