Re: Upgrade to new version

2011-05-02 Thread Neil Winchurst

NoOp wrote:

I had better give more information. I have installed Mint 10 KDE. When
I wanted to install Seamonkey the available version was 2.0.11 while
the latest version was 2.0.13. So I downloaded the full version 2.0.13
   of the program, the .deb version, and ran the installer.


Do the same for 2.0.14 - download the full .deb and install the same way
that you did for 2.0.13. I suspect that the upgrade is having permission
issues due to the installation location.

...
Yes I realise that I can do that. There is no version of Seamonkey in 
/usr/bin. If I download the deb file for 2.0.14 and install it, will 
it go there? And will it pick up all the set up from my version in 
/usr/bin/local? If so then I could change the icon properties to look 
in /sur/bin.


Otherwise I can just stay with the 2.0.13 version. But to avoid the 
error message every time that I log in I need to remove the downloaded 
upgrade file. Trouble is I don't know its name or location.


Thanks for all the help so far

Neil
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No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread W3BNR
Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like SeaMonkey will not 
be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from their page:



You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is Internet 
Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.


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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
W3BNR wrote:

 Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like SeaMonkey
 will not be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from their page: 
 
 You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
 Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.

Please see any of hundreds of threads on how to add Firefox 3.0 to
your User Agent string.

Nearly all web sites that choose to browser-sniff only look for the
three or four most popular. This does not mean that they don't support
your choice of browser. It will still work.

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Re: Upgrade to new version

2011-05-02 Thread Neil Winchurst

NoOp wrote:


Do the same for 2.0.14 - download the full .deb and install the same way
that you did for 2.0.13. I suspect that the upgrade is having permission
issues due to the installation location.

Further to my previous email, I did as you suggested and downloaded 
the new version of Seamonkey. Then I extracted it to 
/usr/local/seamonkey. (The previous version is in 
/usr/local/bin/seamonkey).


I changed the desktop icon accordingly. It picked up all the relevant 
details from my profile and all is well.


Thanks for the suggestion,

Neil
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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread Robert Kaiser

W3BNR schrieb:

Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future. Looks like SeaMonkey
will not be supported (as usual). Here's a quote from their page:


You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.


Try SeaMonkey 2.1 and Yahoo! should think you have Firefox 4 and work fine.

Robert Kaiser


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Re: Updated to 2.0.14

2011-05-02 Thread Daniel

wingspan2 wrote:

Hello everyone,
   Well I logged onto my Sea Monkey browser as usual and when my
browser appeared, it had automatically updated to Sea Monkey 2.0.14.
It looked a bit different but everything appeared to be there.
But.. when I went to use my e-mail that Sea Monkey provides, I was
unable to to send any messages. I was able to receive them just not
able to send them. I called my internet provider Comcast to aid me
with this problem, but they no longer help with browsers other than
their own. I went through all the setting and every thing was still
the same, but it will not send. I get this email message stating when
I attempt to send it:

Cannot send message using the server
Smtp.comcast.net:wingspan2..Use the pop-up menu below to try a
different outgoing mail server.  All messages will use this server
until you quit Mail or change your network settings

  So my wife and I tried different options that appeared in the drop
down box, but none were able to make the out going mail work. Has
anyone had this problem or know how to repair so our email can be sent
again?

Thanks in advance,
Rob


Rob, do you use a firewall at all?? A firewall that let your old SM send 
stuff, but knows nothing about this new program that's trying to send 
stuff??


To some (all) firewalls SeaMonkey 2.0.x is different to SeaMonkey 2.0.14

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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread W3BNR

On 5/2/2011 7:28 AM Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like SeaMonkey
will not be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from their page:

You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.


Please see any of hundreds of threads on how to add Firefox 3.0 to
your User Agent string.

Nearly all web sites that choose to browser-sniff only look for the
three or four most popular. This does not mean that they don't support
your choice of browser. It will still work.



I'm well aware I can spoof anything I want or even use an IE viewer within SM.
I'm just po'ed that sites do not want to admit (read support') other
internet software.  If they would make their sites W3C compatible there would
be no need to even sniff for the browsers.  99.9% of the now existing browsers
would work (read no need for support) with their pages.

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Re: %20 in URLs/links.

2011-05-02 Thread Arne

Ant wrote:

Hi!

I noticed with SeaMonkey (SM) v2.0.x, %20 (space) sometimes gets removed
in URLs. This is annoying if I need to copy and paste since the URL gets
broken in web browsers, e-mails, etc.

Is there a way to keep and show these %20?

Thank you in advance. :)


Why can't people learn that spaces should not be used in url's? :\

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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
W3BNR wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 W3BNR wrote:
 Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like
 SeaMonkey will not be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from
 their page: 
 
 You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
 Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.
 
 Please see any of hundreds of threads on how to add Firefox 3.0 to
 your User Agent string. 
 
 Nearly all web sites that choose to browser-sniff only look for
 the three or four most popular. This does not mean that they don't
 support your choice of browser. It will still work. 
 
 I'm well aware I can spoof anything I want or even use an IE viewer
 within SM. I'm just po'ed that sites do not want to admit (read
 support') other internet software.  If they would make their sites
 W3C compatible there would be no need to even sniff for the browsers.
  99.9% of the now existing browsers would work (read no need for
 support) with their pages.

I am 99.9% (plus 0.1%) in agreement with your statement. :-)

Unfortunately, it is a matter of the education of the people hired as
webmasters and dee-ziners. We who are in the know can do little more
than send alerts to the companies who hire these uneducated people.

Recently, my local newspaper completely changed their site
(unnecessarily) and there are hundreds of errors. An editor invited
comments on the new look of the site, so I responded with tasteful
comments about the mistakes. There was no answer, so I re-responded
twice more (finally CC'd the email of the chief editor), and still no
response.

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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread cyberzen

Robert Kaiser a écrit :

W3BNR schrieb:

Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future. Looks like SeaMonkey
will not be supported (as usual). Here's a quote from their page:


You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.


Try SeaMonkey 2.1 and Yahoo! should think you have Firefox 4 and work fine.

Robert Kaiser


in those circumstances why not using the IMAP access to yahoo mail 
that's working fine here (SeaMonkey/2.0.14) without spoofing


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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread WLS

W3BNR wrote:

Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future. Looks like SeaMonkey
will not be supported (as usual). Here's a quote from their page:


You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.



Contact Yahoo and inform them that their new mail service does not 
support your browser and they should remedy the situation. That is what 
I did.


Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
Tel: (408) 349-3300
Fax: (408) 349-3301

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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread upscope
On Monday, May 02, 2011 05:45:44 AM W3BNR wrote:
 On 5/2/2011 7:28 AM Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
  W3BNR wrote:
  Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like
  SeaMonkey will not be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from
  their page:
  
  You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
  Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.
  
  Please see any of hundreds of threads on how to add Firefox 3.0
  to your User Agent string.
  
  Nearly all web sites that choose to browser-sniff only look for
  the three or four most popular. This does not mean that they
  don't support your choice of browser. It will still work.
 
 I'm well aware I can spoof anything I want or even use an IE viewer
 within SM. I'm just po'ed that sites do not want to admit (read
 support') other internet software.  If they would make their sites
 W3C compatible there would be no need to even sniff for the
 browsers.  99.9% of the now existing browsers would work (read no
 need for support) with their pages.
I agree with your comments, but have the sites I have reported problems 
to don't even know what the W3C site is. I have even taken some of the 
sites source code, ran it thru the W3C verifier and sent the webmaster 
the error list, no responses. All they know is IE works !!
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Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread wingspan2
Well,
   Here is what I found out. My internet provider, (Comcast) will not
give up the Out Going Mail port number. I searched the internet and
came up with a few, but not in my area. When I spoke to a
representative at Comcast I asked for the port number and they
refused to give it to me. They claimed that I had to log onto Comcast
home page, then read my emails from their server. I told them I did
not like the way it way set up  and basically they told me to jump in
a lake if I didn't like it.  So with that in mind, thank you everyone
who has made an effort to help me. If anyone knows their outgoing
server port number in my area, (Chico California) feel free to pass it
on to me.  :-)
Rob
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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread Jay Garcia
On 02.05.2011 11:17, wingspan2 wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Well,
Here is what I found out. My internet provider, (Comcast) will not
 give up the Out Going Mail port number. I searched the internet and
 came up with a few, but not in my area. When I spoke to a
 representative at Comcast I asked for the port number and they
 refused to give it to me. They claimed that I had to log onto Comcast
 home page, then read my emails from their server. I told them I did
 not like the way it way set up  and basically they told me to jump in
 a lake if I didn't like it.  So with that in mind, thank you everyone
 who has made an effort to help me. If anyone knows their outgoing
 server port number in my area, (Chico California) feel free to pass it
 on to me.  :-)
 Rob

First of all, please post followup replies in the original thread, thanks.

Comcast uses ports 587, 465 and 995.

587 is unencrypted and usually is used for pop accounts

The alternate ports are: 995 (POP) and 465 (IMAP) both of which are
encrypted SSL ports. Port 25 has been disabled.


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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 02.05.2011 11:17, wingspan2 wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Well,
Here is what I found out. My internet provider, (Comcast) will not
give up the Out Going Mail port number. I searched the internet and
came up with a few, but not in my area. When I spoke to a
representative at Comcast I asked for the port number and they
refused to give it to me. They claimed that I had to log onto Comcast
home page, then read my emails from their server. I told them I did
not like the way it way set up  and basically they told me to jump in
a lake if I didn't like it.  So with that in mind, thank you everyone
who has made an effort to help me. If anyone knows their outgoing
server port number in my area, (Chico California) feel free to pass it
on to me.  :-)
Rob


First of all, please post followup replies in the original thread, thanks.

Comcast uses ports 587, 465 and 995.

587 is unencrypted and usually is used for pop accounts

The alternate ports are: 995 (POP) and 465 (IMAP) both of which are
encrypted SSL ports. Port 25 has been disabled.


Looks like pretty standard stuff, wonder why it was such a secret. Or 
did the idiot rep just pretend it was a secret because he didn't know?


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Re: getting emails from one pc to another

2011-05-02 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote:


Just be careful you don't overwrite a new inbox with an old inbox,
that's why I stress changing the names of the old folders.



If passing from XP to Windows7 .. if after installing the same version 
of SM on the new pc (win7) we copy the whole profile from the XP one in 
the correct place of the win7 one .. would be ok for all ? No ?


From: C:\Documents and Settings\RAYXP\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\2pj2ffu1.default\ directory(and 
subdirectories) content
To: 
C:\Users\RAYWIN7\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\new-random-name.default\ 
directory(and subdirectories) content


with untouching 
C:\Users\RAYWIN7\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini who 
contains the new Path=Profiles\2pj2ffu1.default named 
Profiles\new-random-name.default


Is this correct ?
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Re: %20 in URLs/links.

2011-05-02 Thread Ray_Net

Arne wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hi!

I noticed with SeaMonkey (SM) v2.0.x, %20 (space) sometimes gets removed
in URLs. This is annoying if I need to copy and paste since the URL gets
broken in web browsers, e-mails, etc.

Is there a way to keep and show these %20?

Thank you in advance. :)


Why can't people learn that spaces should not be used in url's? :\



Because µsoft will permit all stupid combinations . why accepting 
space inside filenames ? same stupid acceptations ... if you save a new 
document from µsoft word, you are not obliged to give a name for the 
file, µsoft take the décision to use the start of the text in the 
beginning of the document :-(

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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread Rick Merrill

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like
SeaMonkey will not be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from
their page:

You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.


Please see any of hundreds of threads on how to add Firefox 3.0 to
your User Agent string.

Nearly all web sites that choose to browser-sniff only look for
the three or four most popular. This does not mean that they don't
support your choice of browser. It will still work.


I'm well aware I can spoof anything I want or even use an IE viewer
within SM. I'm just po'ed that sites do not want to admit (read
support') other internet software.  If they would make their sites
W3C compatible there would be no need to even sniff for the browsers.
  99.9% of the now existing browsers would work (read no need for
support) with their pages.


I am 99.9% (plus 0.1%) in agreement with your statement. :-)

Unfortunately, it is a matter of the education of the people hired as
webmasters and dee-ziners. We who are in the know can do little more
than send alerts to the companies who hire these uneducated people.

Recently, my local newspaper completely changed their site
(unnecessarily) and there are hundreds of errors. An editor invited
comments on the new look of the site, so I responded with tasteful
comments about the mistakes. There was no answer, so I re-responded
twice more (finally CC'd the email of the chief editor), and still no
response.



One of the rarely touted benefits of W3C compliance is to have a
web site viewable on various devices other than a PC or MAC. Try
the site on a cellphone or even on a scaled down window - then
report the lack of functionality along with the most flagrant
errors as possible causes.


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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread Rick Merrill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 02.05.2011 11:17, wingspan2 wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Well,
Here is what I found out. My internet provider, (Comcast) will not
give up the Out Going Mail port number. I searched the internet and
came up with a few, but not in my area. When I spoke to a
representative at Comcast I asked for the port number and they
refused to give it to me. They claimed that I had to log onto Comcast
home page, then read my emails from their server. I told them I did
not like the way it way set up and basically they told me to jump in
a lake if I didn't like it. So with that in mind, thank you everyone
who has made an effort to help me. If anyone knows their outgoing
server port number in my area, (Chico California) feel free to pass it
on to me. :-)
Rob


First of all, please post followup replies in the original thread,
thanks.

Comcast uses ports 587, 465 and 995.

587 is unencrypted and usually is used for pop accounts

The alternate ports are: 995 (POP) and 465 (IMAP) both of which are
encrypted SSL ports. Port 25 has been disabled.


Looks like pretty standard stuff, wonder why it was such a secret. Or
did the idiot rep just pretend it was a secret because he didn't know?


Their training did not include it, and like most support personell, I
will guess that they are told to Not tell anything we didn't teach you.
So even if he or she knew what you were asking, they may simply not
be permitted to tell you.  For example, you call back and get another
support person, and you tell them what the first one told you - now
this one is up the creek.

Remember, this conversation may be recorded for training purposes.


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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread Jay Garcia
On 02.05.2011 12:41, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 On 02.05.2011 11:17, wingspan2 wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

 Well,
 Here is what I found out. My internet provider, (Comcast) will not
 give up the Out Going Mail port number. I searched the internet and
 came up with a few, but not in my area. When I spoke to a
 representative at Comcast I asked for the port number and they
 refused to give it to me. They claimed that I had to log onto Comcast
 home page, then read my emails from their server. I told them I did
 not like the way it way set up  and basically they told me to jump in
 a lake if I didn't like it.  So with that in mind, thank you everyone
 who has made an effort to help me. If anyone knows their outgoing
 server port number in my area, (Chico California) feel free to pass it
 on to me.  :-)
 Rob

 First of all, please post followup replies in the original thread,
 thanks.

 Comcast uses ports 587, 465 and 995.

 587 is unencrypted and usually is used for pop accounts

 The alternate ports are: 995 (POP) and 465 (IMAP) both of which are
 encrypted SSL ports. Port 25 has been disabled.
 
 Looks like pretty standard stuff, wonder why it was such a secret. Or
 did the idiot rep just pretend it was a secret because he didn't know?
 

Dunno, but I got those settings from Comcast's site.


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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread W3BNR

On 5/2/2011 9:59 AM WLS wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future. Looks like SeaMonkey
will not be supported (as usual). Here's a quote from their page:


You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.



Contact Yahoo and inform them that their new mail service does not
support your browser and they should remedy the situation. That is what
I did.

Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
Tel: (408) 349-3300
Fax: (408) 349-3301

WLS


Any site that does not function properly  shows W3C errors is reported to
the webmaster and highup authorities of the company where possible.

I hate to say it but I've only received a few replies in the many years I've
been doing that and most of them don't care if it works in IE.

Try the site in IE and if you can find the tiniest of flaws, run it through
W3C and report ALL of those errors to the webmaster when reporting the minor
problem.

To get addresses, e-mails,  phone numbers of the 'wheels' in major companies
I use the Consumer Action Handbook from the GSA Federal Citizen Information
Center.  Available FREE at  http://www.consumeraction.gov/ or download the pdf 
version. Then report the errors to the 'wheels'.  Sometimes that works.


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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread ejDELETHIS

W3BNR wrote:

Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future. Looks like SeaMonkey
will not be supported (as usual). Here's a quote from their page:


You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.



SM 2.1 beta3 works fine with the new Yahoo! email.

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Re: Upgrade to new version

2011-05-02 Thread NoOp
On 05/02/2011 05:30 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 Do the same for 2.0.14 - download the full .deb and install the same way
 that you did for 2.0.13. I suspect that the upgrade is having permission
 issues due to the installation location.

 Further to my previous email, I did as you suggested and downloaded 
 the new version of Seamonkey. Then I extracted it to 
 /usr/local/seamonkey. (The previous version is in 
 /usr/local/bin/seamonkey).
 
 I changed the desktop icon accordingly. It picked up all the relevant 
 details from my profile and all is well.
 
 Thanks for the suggestion,
 
 Neil

I find simply installing to a home folder a better option (updates
work). Some wish to install in /usr/local so that other users can also
use the install, but the install is (IMO) small enough that you can do
the same for each user without problems.


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Re: Security lock icon

2011-05-02 Thread NoOp
On 05/01/2011 08:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/1/11 8:13 PM, Bl wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On Mon, 02 May 2011 11:41:29 +1000, Bl wrote:
 Hi,
 Just noticed that lock icon is missing! :(  Now we don't have an easy
 indication of encryption status of the Web Page. Or am I missing
 something? I know we can look in Page Info or for HTTPS in URL but that
 is not as assuring as the lock. Firefox 4 also abandoned the lock but
 they provide encryption info on the left of location bar. A bit fiddly
 but better than nothing.
 Regards

 The security lock is still there. In fact we made it more noticeable -
 it changes colours as well as showing the owner of the SSL certificate
 (if available).

 Phil

 My bad. Had status bar disabled! Thanks Phil. I should fully wake up 
 before complaining.
 BL
 
 It is being removed (or was already removed) from Firefox, which is just
 another reason why I prefer SeaMonkey.
 

Amazing...
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/796230
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Site%20Identity%20Button

Just when we've trained all the kids, parents, cats, dogs, etc., to *be
sure* and check the security lock...



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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rick Merrill wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Looks like pretty standard stuff, wonder why it was such a
secret. Or did the idiot rep just pretend it was a secret because
he didn't know?


Their training did not include it, and like most support personnel,
I will guess that they are told to Not tell anything we didn't teach
you. So even if he or she knew what you were asking, they may simply
not be permitted to tell you. For example, you call back and get
another support person, and you tell them what the first one told you
- now this one is up the creek.

Remember, this conversation may be recorded for training purposes.


I understand these principles. How hard is it to say I don't know?

Of course, a reasonable customer will then ask, Well, why not!??

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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread Rick Merrill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

...


Remember, this conversation may be recorded for training purposes.


I understand these principles. How hard is it to say I don't know?

Of course, a reasonable customer will then ask, Well, why not!??


Well, that beats, If I told you I'd have to kill you.



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Re: Found the answer

2011-05-02 Thread blurosemarie1
On May 2, 10:11 am, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote:
 On 02.05.2011 11:17, wingspan2 wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

  Well,
     Here is what I found out. My internet provider, (Comcast) will not
  give up the Out Going Mail port number. I searched the internet and
  came up with a few, but not in my area. When I spoke to a
  representative at Comcast I asked for the port number and they
  refused to give it to me. They claimed that I had to log onto Comcast
  home page, then read my emails from their server. I told them I did
  not like the way it way set up  and basically they told me to jump in
  a lake if I didn't like it.  So with that in mind, thank you everyone
  who has made an effort to help me. If anyone knows their outgoing
  server port number in my area, (Chico California) feel free to pass it
  on to me.  :-)
  Rob

 First of all, please post followup replies in the original thread, thanks.

 Comcast uses ports 587, 465 and 995.

 587 is unencrypted and usually is used for pop accounts

 The alternate ports are: 995 (POP) and 465 (IMAP) both of which are
 encrypted SSL ports. Port 25 has been disabled.

 --
 *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion*www.ufaq.org
 Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird
 Disclaimer: I Do Not Own This Place Thus I Have No Official Say-So!!

 Jay,.

Yes, Port 25 was disabled and my husband wingspan2 thought that
might be the problem as he stated in the previous
posting asking for help with our Outgoing mail.   BUT.what
he didn't mention is this whole problem started when our main computer
did an automatic update for SeaMonkey's 2.0.14. update. Now.I
believe there is actually NOTHING wrong with the port/outgoing server
because I'm using it right now on my MacBook.  My MacBook is using a
Router connection from our main computer which has the problem.
Yet... I can log in, send, receive mails with no problem at all for
his mail accountKeep in mind I Did Not except SeaMonkey's update
2.0.14 (thank goodness!)  Sothis tells me that SM update did
something to our computer and I would like it if you or some tech
person could contact us and help fix this problem... I hope that I
don't get the same responce from SM as we did from Comcast.
Thanks blurosemarie

P.S.  Sorry to be rude, but this was working fine until the update
from SM.
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Re: %20 in URLs/links.

2011-05-02 Thread PhillipJones

Ray_Net wrote:

Arne wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hi!

I noticed with SeaMonkey (SM) v2.0.x, %20 (space) sometimes gets removed
in URLs. This is annoying if I need to copy and paste since the URL gets
broken in web browsers, e-mails, etc.

Is there a way to keep and show these %20?

Thank you in advance. :)


Why can't people learn that spaces should not be used in url's? :\



Because µsoft will permit all stupid combinations . why accepting
space inside filenames ? same stupid acceptations ... if you save a new
document from µsoft word, you are not obliged to give a name for the
file, µsoft take the décision to use the start of the text in the
beginning of the document :-(


If you have to have spaces, use code for spaces instead %20 then you can 
show you link with space but when it actually goes to the link it sees 
the 20 instead.


Its better to either create the link with no spaces as as in http:// 
ThisIsYourSite.com
or use Underscores that Windows and Unix have been happy with since 
there was HTML. as in:

http://www.this_is_your_site.com

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Re: %20 in URLs/links.

2011-05-02 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
PhillipJones wrote:

 If you have to have spaces, use code for spaces instead %20 then you can 
 show you link with space but when it actually goes to the link it sees 
 the 20 [SIC] instead.

What code would you use for a filename space other than %20 ?

 Its better to either create the link with no spaces as as in http:// 
 ThisIsYourSite.com
 or use Underscores that Windows and Unix have been happy with since 
 there was HTML. as in:
 http://www.this_is_your_site.com

First of all, spaces are not permitted in domain names. Secondly, you
can't substitute underscores for spaces in hosted filenames either. They
would be two different files.

Thirdly, don't use real domain names as examples. Your thisisyoursite
is owned by a gentleman from Sarasota, Florida, and you've just handed
it to search engines. Maybe he doesn't want that. Use example.com
instead.

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Re: No support for SeaMonkey @ Yahoo

2011-05-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/2/11 6:06 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 W3BNR wrote:
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 W3BNR wrote:
 Yahoo upgrading mail service in the near future.  Looks like
 SeaMonkey will not be supported (as usual).  Here's a quote from
 their page: 

 You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is
 Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer.

 Please see any of hundreds of threads on how to add Firefox 3.0 to
 your User Agent string. 

 Nearly all web sites that choose to browser-sniff only look for
 the three or four most popular. This does not mean that they don't
 support your choice of browser. It will still work. 

 I'm well aware I can spoof anything I want or even use an IE viewer
 within SM. I'm just po'ed that sites do not want to admit (read
 support') other internet software.  If they would make their sites
 W3C compatible there would be no need to even sniff for the browsers.
  99.9% of the now existing browsers would work (read no need for
 support) with their pages.
 
 I am 99.9% (plus 0.1%) in agreement with your statement. :-)
 
 Unfortunately, it is a matter of the education of the people hired as
 webmasters and dee-ziners. We who are in the know can do little more
 than send alerts to the companies who hire these uneducated people.
 
 Recently, my local newspaper completely changed their site
 (unnecessarily) and there are hundreds of errors. An editor invited
 comments on the new look of the site, so I responded with tasteful
 comments about the mistakes. There was no answer, so I re-responded
 twice more (finally CC'd the email of the chief editor), and still no
 response.
 

A postal letter to the CEO -- avoiding an excessive use of technical
terms -- can be effective.

-- 

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Googlemail- with Seamonkey

2011-05-02 Thread james king
what settings should be used to download messages? using pop3 not
imap. I can use Seamonkey to send mail but can't get it downloaded
from Googlemail.
Thanks
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Encrypted page with unencrypted content

2011-05-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
When I try to access certain secure pages, I get the prompt You have 
requested an encrypted page with some unencrypted information. ... and 
I click OK. The prompt goes away, but nothing happens. If I repeat the 
request, I am taken to the desired page without prompting.


Shouldn't I get what I asked for the first time, when I clicked OK?

This is really annoying when the page is a hit list and every time I try 
to return to the list I have to click three times (back, OK, back).


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Re: Problem Typing E-Mails with newest S.M.

2011-05-02 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Mort, on 4/30/2011 7:25 AM typed:

Philip Chee wrote:

Have you checked your trackpad driver settings for pad pressure
sensitivity and/or check for an updated driver?

This might be cheaper.

Phil



Hi Phil,

Thanks for the suggestions. I updated the touchpad drivers, and cleaned
the touchpad to remove any skin oils or dirt. I cannot find any means of
adjusting the pad pressure, despite a thorough search. At this moment,
the typing seems to be fine, and I hope that it continues.

Thanks again to you, and to all the guys who offered to help. I do
appreciate it.

Mort


You didn't mention the manufacturer for your touchpad (or I missed it,
skimming the thread), but as far as Synaptics' touchpads go, there's a driver
setting (Palmcheck) to control the pad's sensitivity and guard against
unintended cursor movement.

Might be beneficial to do one more review of your driver settings.  I can't
speak to non-Synaptic touchpads, but it would strike me as strange for other
manufacturers not to have some similar control function marked, say,
Sensitivity or the like.

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