Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/22/2012 11:23 PM: On 1/22/12 7:45 PM, Sailfish wrote [in part]: You should bring this up to the owner's attention. I would indeed notify the extension's developer. However: * The AMO site provides no contact info. * The developer's site http://nc.ddns.us/extensions.html is very confusing about reporting problems. * There is no real way to submit a bug report against any AMO extension. Did you try the Forum+Support nav button on the left sidebar? -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top-posting
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: And if you'd like to see what has been written previously, so that you don't wind up simply repeating what has already been written by someone else, more than one screen back? :-D ? By definition, I have /already/ seen it, since the current message is a reply to it, or a reply to a reply to it, or whatever. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: snip By the way, selecting the link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/. This is because AMO seems to only check the latest add-on version, which is no longer declared compatible with SM (author's fault). HTH Jens Jens, is this possibly caused by the fact that the SM Build ID mentions FF before SM, e.g... Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 so goes looking for FF extensions?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Make Firefox default browser for SeaMonkey Mail?
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-01-22 3:48 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly: As I recall, what you need to do is to set one of the preferences to start FF instead of the SeaMonkey browser, unfortunately I don't known which pref, and looking at about:config in a browser screen and filtering on browser shows there are a lot that it could be. That would be at http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/http, but it no longer works. I've been slowly updating the site, and I'll archive that item soon. If anyone wants to use SeaMonkey as a stand-alone mailnews client, they should seriously consider moving to Thunderbird. Thanks for your reply, ChrisI, I'll try to update my memory as wellbut no promises!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Make Firefox default browser for SeaMonkey Mail?
WLS wrote: Hmm, I have no idea what considerable damage you are referring to concerning the Thunderbird product. My main gripe with TB 2.0.x series... [Bug 81141] [RFE] Ability to rebuild msf files on demand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81141 TB code is now unsafe to trust valuable email / nntp content to. Sorry, I don't know how to make Firefox the default browser for SeaMonkey Mail. Launchy is a great start. Still does not alter the default browser menu items which point to SM, but I see that as a training issue. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
Jochen Roderburg wrote: On 2012-01-22, Danield...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Jochen Roderburg wrote: Anybody knows why this seamonkey newsgroup is no longer available via Google groups? They say: The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it violated Google's Terms Of Service. mozilla.support.seamonkey is showing up for me if I search on Groups-Google. WFM Hmm, I start on Google Groups main page http://groups.google.com/ When I enter mozilla.support.seamonkey in Search Groups I get what I think is a search in old archived articles. When I enter mozilla.support.seamonkey in Search for a Group I get No groups match mozilla.support.seamonkey. When I go direct to the former URL of the group http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey I get what I reported: Cannot find mozilla.support.seamonkey The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it violated Google's Terms Of Service. JR Sorry, my mistake, I just did a search for mozilla.support.seamonkey and a page came up indicating there had been heaps of post to m.s.seamonkey...but when I now click on one of the links to threads (the link to this thread, in fact), Google then does display a message that the group has been removed (as you suggested) and displays messages from mozilla.dev.mozilla-org, in fact to a message from Phillip Chee asking if anyone knows what's going on! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
Jay Garcia wrote: On 22.01.2012 08:18, Jochen Roderburg wrote: --- Original Message --- On 2012-01-22, Hartmut Figgeh.fi...@gmx.de wrote: Jay Garcia: On 22.01.2012 04:58, Jochen Roderburg wrote: Cannot find mozilla.support.seamonkey The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it violated Google's Terms Of Service. No idea what is up with this. I get: No groups match mozilla.support.seamonkey. Suggestions: Click on mozilla.support.seamonkey in the second line of an answer. http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=mozilla.support.seamonkeyqt_s=Search Hartmut As I wrote already, this brings up search results from the (obviously still existing) group archive, but not the Google group itself. And when you click on any of the search results, you are back to square one: Cannot find mozilla.support.seamonkey Isn't there some administrator who maintains the newsgroup on the mozilla server and the connection to the (lost) Google group and is more informed about what Google did not like about the group and could perhaps bring it back to life? JR I am presently filing a bug on this. Will report back the results. Jay, I seem to remember some time ago (months), these groups were being spammed from Google Groups with posts to old threads advertising freelance writer. These posts seem to have stopped (for how long??), so could this be a result of the fix?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?
Michael Lueck wrote: Daniel wrote: reading the Bugzilla report you quoted, in the first entry the poster said he had 7.6GB Inbox (including all his sub-inboxes). 7.6GB...what the heck for?? I am not such a pack rat. My entire SM profile is running around 2GB. The two main accounts I use, have MANY folders under - thus that are seeing this problem - have an InBox size of 27.2 MB and 66 MB. (That is just the inbox size) In total I have around 1500 folders, most heavily / deeply nested. I'd still ask what the heck for??, but I suppose it's your right!! I wonder if SM is having troubles indexing the sub-folders and indexing the sub-sub-folders, and is not so much losing their children but rather taking it's time re-indexing them. I switched off automatic compact back during use of TB. Why?? It seems to me to be related to my use of filters to move messages to the correct folder. The folders will be fine, a message comes in, and suddenly when I expand out a folder at InBox level to see the new message (several folders deep), then sometimes the destination folder is not visible (along with many other folders loosing their children). I then open a new instance of SM Mail, close the old one, and read my message I received. When you create the new instance of SM Mail, I'm guessing this new instance creates a new set of index files (the .msf files) which are clean, sort of like what would result if you used File-Compact Folders more often.Does your machine often stall just after you've done one of your weekly profile clean ups and back-ups?? I collapse folder trees at the folder just under the InBox. Both TB and SM are able to remember which subfolders I wanted open/closed within each subtree, thus I use that to my advantage and leave critical path sub,sub-sub,sub-sub-sub branches always open and simply collapse the folder directly off the InBox. When I want to reopen that subtree, I click the folder just off the InBox, and to my annoyance SM FREQUENTLY is unable to correctly display the entire subtree correctly. Additionally, I wonder how often you File-Compact Folder on each of your mail accounts, sub-accounts, sub-sub... Weekly, when I do my SM profile backups I do: 1) Delete all Junk mail 2) File \ Empty Trash 3) File \ Compact Folders on each account's InBox folder. I see the compact operation enumerate correctly through each accounts folder tree structure via the status bar. Sincerely, -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
On 12-01-22 10:33 PM, _Rostyslaw Lewyckyj_ spoke thusly: Now, if, somebody manages to 'resurrect' the *Google* group mozilla.support.seamonkey what kind of mess will be the result? There will be the 'official' newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey hosted on the Mozilla news server. There will be the 'Google' group mozilla.support.seamonkey hosted at Google and There may be the/an Internet newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey (if one has gotten created within that structure) Items posted on 'official' newsgroup will be picked up by the other two. Discussions posted to Google will probably remain locked up within Google and things posted to the Internet newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey will get passed on to those hosts which receive that newsgroup. They may get picked up by Google. But will probably not make it to the Mozilla news server. (This last situation was the case with the Netscape newsgroups, where there were any number of postings floating around but not getting archived to the 'official' collection.) So of what benefit is it create/resurrect the Google group named mozilla.support.seamonkey? Certainly let, encourage, Google to archive and mirror the content on the Mozilla news server, but not to set up a private group with private contents. When the Mozilla newsgroups were created, Google agreed not to include them in their feed to other Usenet servers. It's a bi-directional connection between Google Groups and news.mozilla.org, and nowhere else. For more info, see http://www-archive.mozilla.org/community/giganews-migration.html -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
On 12-01-23 7:28 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly: Jay, I seem to remember some time ago (months), these groups were being spammed from Google Groups with posts to old threads advertising freelance writer. These posts seem to have stopped (for how long??), so could this be a result of the fix?? It's a result of me removing them before you see them. :) -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
On 01/23/2012 10:54 AM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-01-23 7:28 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly: Jay, I seem to remember some time ago (months), these groups were being spammed from Google Groups with posts to old threads advertising freelance writer. These posts seem to have stopped (for how long??), so could this be a result of the fix?? It's a result of me removing them before you see them. :) Thank you! I can delete my filters, and clear the filter logs now? -- Thunderbird Beta ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 1/23/12 3:59 AM, Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: snip By the way, selecting the link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/. This is because AMO seems to only check the latest add-on version, which is no longer declared compatible with SM (author's fault). HTH Jens Jens, is this possibly caused by the fact that the SM Build ID mentions FF before SM, e.g... Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 so goes looking for FF extensions?? Not in my case. I have disabled Advertise Firefox compatibility. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 There is no Firefox. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
WLS wrote: On 01/23/2012 10:54 AM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-01-23 7:28 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly: Jay, I seem to remember some time ago (months), these groups were being spammed from Google Groups with posts to old threads advertising freelance writer. These posts seem to have stopped (for how long??), so could this be a result of the fix?? It's a result of me removing them before you see them. :) Thank you! I can delete my filters, and clear the filter logs now? I wouldn't let my guard down that quck! -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 1/23/12 12:07 AM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/22/2012 11:23 PM: On 1/22/12 7:45 PM, Sailfish wrote [in part]: You should bring this up to the owner's attention. I would indeed notify the extension's developer. However: * The AMO site provides no contact info. * The developer's site http://nc.ddns.us/extensions.html is very confusing about reporting problems. * There is no real way to submit a bug report against any AMO extension. Did you try the Forum+Support nav button on the left sidebar? Yes. For individual threads, I see the note No permission to post a reply. For the appropriate forum, I see the note No permission to post new topics. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/23/2012 10:08 AM: On 1/23/12 12:07 AM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/22/2012 11:23 PM: On 1/22/12 7:45 PM, Sailfish wrote [in part]: You should bring this up to the owner's attention. I would indeed notify the extension's developer. However: * The AMO site provides no contact info. * The developer's site http://nc.ddns.us/extensions.html is very confusing about reporting problems. * There is no real way to submit a bug report against any AMO extension. Did you try the Forum+Support nav button on the left sidebar? Yes. For individual threads, I see the note No permission to post a reply. For the appropriate forum, I see the note No permission to post new topics. If there were recent posts from others, maybe there's a registration required? -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: quick ques: how to keep download dialog open
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Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
NoOp wrote: Jens, any possiblity that the compatibility reporter can include a box/tick that the extension works if the install.rdf is modified? Hardly. First of all, the ACR is a Mozilla product, i.e. its main focus is Firefox and possibly Thunderbird. Secondly, it's not the right approach. The goal should be to get the add-on authors to update their creations. At least that's what I think and what I've been doing. For example: with SM 2.7b4 (linux) the following are fine with a modified install.rdf: - Novell Moonlight 3.99.0.2.99 - Password Exporter 1.2.1 For the latter, Philip Chee provides an updated version here: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#passwordexporter But, if the install.rdf is modifed (to say 'em:maxVersion2.8.*/em:maxVersion' and works, the compatibility reporter denotes: Marked as compatible by developer when it actually wasn't. But the add-on works when modified locally. The ACR enables you to provide feedback to the add-on author, but only if you do not fake the compatibility information yourself. Until compatible-by-default add-ons were introduced (starting with SM 2.7, which you seem to run), the ACR allowed to install any add-on that ever claimed to work with SM. Now it refuses that if the add-on is not compatible with at least SM 2.1 (which was the release matching FF 4, which is also FF's cut-off version for compatible-by-default). Now I'm not exactly sure whether the old extensions.checkCompatibility.* preferences still work, but I think it's worth a try. With trunk it's probably easiest to install the Nightly Tester Tools add-on, but I'm not sure whether it sets the necessary prefs for branches like the ACR did. Maybe the Disable Add-on Compatibility Checks add-on does the trick; didn't try it myself. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: By the way, selecting the link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/. This is because AMO seems to only check the latest add-on version, which is no longer declared compatible with SM (author's fault). Jens, is this possibly caused by the fact that the SM Build ID mentions FF before SM, e.g... Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 so goes looking for FF extensions?? No. If you go to a /seamonkey/addon/ URL and the latest version of that add-on is available for SM, then it sticks. The order of occurrences in the UA has no effect on that. However, once you're on the FF version of the page, the version check there is wrong (it takes SM's version, puts Firefox in front of it and then displays that to you. Reported multiple times already.). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?
Daniel wrote: Michael Lueck wrote: In total I have around 1500 folders, most heavily / deeply nested. I'd still ask what the heck for?? Because I like to be organized. I wonder if SM is having troubles indexing the sub-folders and indexing the sub-sub-folders, and is not so much losing their children but rather taking it's time re-indexing them. I switched off automatic compact back during use of TB. Why?? I heard that was a good way to get corrupted .msf index files for one thing. When you create the new instance of SM Mail, I'm guessing this new instance creates a new set of index files (the .msf files) which are clean Rebuilding .msf files takes quite a while. Double clicking any folder opens a second instance of Mail INSTANTLY. It could not possibly rebuild 1500 .msf files INSTANTLY. Perhaps since I leave folders \ subtrees open way down the tree and close the tree at the top level folder, when SM moves a message into that folder the UI gets confused. Worked just fine on TB 2.0.x. Never had this trouble. It is unique to the SM code base. File-Compact Folders more often.Does your machine often stall just after you've done one of your weekly profile clean ups and back-ups?? Stall after clean/compact!?!? It always runs snappy and great. I have no idea what you might be referring to. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Make Firefox default browser for SeaMonkey Mail?
MCBastos wrote: I didn't see anything in that thread suggesting that TB 3.x is significantly worse than 2.x TB 3.x removed the rebuild found broken indexes upon search encountering a broken index. Thus there is no way with TB 3.x code to per-account check for corrupted index files. And with 1500+ mail folders, I am NOT manually rebuilding all indexes!!! Message filters may be stuffing mail into a folder with corrupted index. The folder will not light up as the index is corrupted. No visual indication where the new message ended up. Current SM retains the TB 2.0.x logic that will rebuild the index on-the-fly when a Search operation finds a corrupted one. I think of it as ChkDsk /f for Mozilla Mail. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 1/23/12 10:23 AM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/23/2012 10:08 AM: On 1/23/12 12:07 AM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/22/2012 11:23 PM: On 1/22/12 7:45 PM, Sailfish wrote [in part]: You should bring this up to the owner's attention. I would indeed notify the extension's developer. However: * The AMO site provides no contact info. * The developer's site http://nc.ddns.us/extensions.html is very confusing about reporting problems. * There is no real way to submit a bug report against any AMO extension. Did you try the Forum+Support nav button on the left sidebar? Yes. For individual threads, I see the note No permission to post a reply. For the appropriate forum, I see the note No permission to post new topics. If there were recent posts from others, maybe there's a registration required? I suspect registration and login are actually required. However, at the top of http://nc.ddns.us/forum/, there is the statement, all in bold: Registration is NOT required to post in user forums. with NOT underlined. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 1/22/12 12:14 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
When I try to install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1, I get the
following error: BetterPrivacy could not be installed because it is
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.6.1. I get this even when I attempt to
install directly from the AMO site (not my usual practice).
By the way, selecting the link
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/
redirects to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/.
Examining the install.rdf file for 1.68, I believe SeaMonkey
compatibility was intentionally blocked.
For SeaMonkey, the install.rdf file has
!--SeaMonkey--
Description RDF:about=rdf:#$dLacB4
em:id={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
em:minVersion=2.0a1
em:maxVersion=2.6.*
/
Notice the RDF:about, not the em:maxVersion.
At the end of the install.rdf file, the line
that points to SeaMonkey has been commented out as
!--em:targetApplication RDF:resource=rdf:#$dLacB4/--
Notice the RDF:resource, which should be pointing to the RDF:about.
However, strings bracketed between !-- and -- are comments.
--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/.
Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
© 1997 by David E. Ross
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Re: [Add-on Compatibility] was - Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 1/23/12 4:56 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/23/12 10:23 AM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/23/2012 10:08 AM: On 1/23/12 12:07 AM, Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on 1/22/2012 11:23 PM: On 1/22/12 7:45 PM, Sailfish wrote [in part]: You should bring this up to the owner's attention. I would indeed notify the extension's developer. However: * The AMO site provides no contact info. * The developer's site http://nc.ddns.us/extensions.html is very confusing about reporting problems. * There is no real way to submit a bug report against any AMO extension. Did you try the Forum+Support nav button on the left sidebar? Yes. For individual threads, I see the note No permission to post a reply. For the appropriate forum, I see the note No permission to post new topics. If there were recent posts from others, maybe there's a registration required? I suspect registration and login are actually required. However, at the top of http://nc.ddns.us/forum/, there is the statement, all in bold: Registration is NOT required to post in user forums. with NOT underlined. When I went to register so that I could then login, the registration page contained: This forum is not accepting new registrations. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Michael Gordon wrote: Rufus wrote: Ok...so I got a new Mac Mini and duplicated my SM 2.0.14 installation on it and as happy...until I figured I'd try the latest. Installed 2.1 first and all was well - until I tried to go with anything past that to get to 2.6.1. Biggest issue - no Bookmarks, no Bookmark import/export. Now all of my Bookmarks are gone, and it seems like there's no way to import them from the HTML file of my previous Profile. If there is a way, I can't find it...I don't see any selection for import or export of Bookmarks as was touted. I've got no idea about my Passwords, but it looks like they all transferred. Time will tell. I've wiped my upgraded installation and gone back to 2.0.14 three times already tonight. Next time I do that I think I'll stay with 2.0.14. Or move onto Safari... ...and BTW - little interface buttons on a big screen display like a 55 TV are an even bigger PITA than on my laptop. Rufus, Did you try Bookmarks/Tools/Import HTML? Michael G I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus...deal-breaker for me, unless I have to do something I haven't done to enable these options. I guess I should also mention I'm using the Mac version of SM 2.6.1 on a Mac Mini...I won't be updating any of my other machines anytime soon, if ever. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
Jochen Roderburg: Anybody knows why this seamonkey newsgroup is no longer available via Google groups? [...] That's a pity because I found it always very convenient to browse through the discussions there. I do not like this... I used the direct NNTP access only when I wanted to post something myself (like this message ;-) ...but i just discovered, that this NG is available on news.gmane.org under the name gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user. Available not only over NNTP. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Rufus wrote: I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus Per the official binary build of 2.6.1 for Linux: Window \ Address Book Once there Tools \ Import... Tools \ Export... -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on
1/23/2012 5:04 PM:
On 1/22/12 12:14 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
When I try to install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1, I get the
following error: BetterPrivacy could not be installed because it is
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.6.1. I get this even when I attempt to
install directly from the AMO site (not my usual practice).
By the way, selecting the link
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/
redirects to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/.
Examining the install.rdf file for 1.68, I believe SeaMonkey
compatibility was intentionally blocked.
For SeaMonkey, the install.rdf file has
!--SeaMonkey--
Description RDF:about=rdf:#$dLacB4
em:id={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
em:minVersion=2.0a1
em:maxVersion=2.6.*
/
Notice the RDF:about, not the em:maxVersion.
At the end of the install.rdf file, the line
that points to SeaMonkey has been commented out as
!--em:targetApplication RDF:resource=rdf:#$dLacB4/--
Notice the RDF:resource, which should be pointing to the RDF:about.
However, strings bracketed between !-- and -- are comments.
Good sleuthing on your part. I uncommented the targetApplication entry
and replaced the install.rdf file and it installed fine. Also, I noticed
that it's not listed when I searched the Seamonkey Addons Privacy
section,
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/privacy-and-security/?sort=users
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Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
On 01/23/2012 09:32 PM, Sailfish wrote:
My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on
1/23/2012 5:04 PM:
On 1/22/12 12:14 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
When I try to install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1, I get the
following error: BetterPrivacy could not be installed because it is
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.6.1. I get this even when I attempt to
install directly from the AMO site (not my usual practice).
By the way, selecting the link
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/
redirects to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/.
Examining the install.rdf file for 1.68, I believe SeaMonkey
compatibility was intentionally blocked.
For SeaMonkey, the install.rdf file has
!--SeaMonkey--
Description RDF:about=rdf:#$dLacB4
em:id={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
em:minVersion=2.0a1
em:maxVersion=2.6.*
/
Notice the RDF:about, not the em:maxVersion.
At the end of the install.rdf file, the line
that points to SeaMonkey has been commented out as
!--em:targetApplication RDF:resource=rdf:#$dLacB4/--
Notice the RDF:resource, which should be pointing to the RDF:about.
However, strings bracketed between !-- and -- are comments.
Good sleuthing on your part. I uncommented the targetApplication entry
and replaced the install.rdf file and it installed fine. Also, I noticed
that it's not listed when I searched the Seamonkey Addons Privacy
section,
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/privacy-and-security/?sort=users
Doesn't SeaMonkey clear Flash Cookies, like Firefox, so Better Privacy
is no longer needed?
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Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Michael Lueck wrote: Rufus wrote: I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus Per the official binary build of 2.6.1 for Linux: Window \ Address Book Once there Tools \ Import... Tools \ Export... In XP SP3 SM 2.6.1: BookmarksManage BookmarksToolsImport, Export, etc. Perhaps Linux is different? Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Michael Lueck wrote: Rufus wrote: I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus Per the official binary build of 2.6.1 for Linux: Window \ Address Book Once there Tools \ Import... Tools \ Export... That lets me Import or Export Mail information and settings (which look to have transferred correctly from my old Profile) but not Bookmarks. Besides, that would be a pretty odd Menu location to put a Bookmark Manager...I could see it in a way, but it would be odd. No joy...no Bookmarks Import/Export for me on a Mac with 2.6.1. Where, O where, has my feature set gone?.. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Larry S. wrote: Michael Lueck wrote: Rufus wrote: I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus Per the official binary build of 2.6.1 for Linux: Window \ Address Book Once there Tools \ Import... Tools \ Export... In XP SP3 SM 2.6.1: BookmarksManage BookmarksToolsImport, Export, etc. Perhaps Linux is different? Larry That is where I would expect the options, and they are not there for Mac OS X. Can't find them *anywhere*... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Rufus wrote: Larry S. wrote: Michael Lueck wrote: Rufus wrote: I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus Per the official binary build of 2.6.1 for Linux: Window \ Address Book Once there Tools \ Import... Tools \ Export... In XP SP3 SM 2.6.1: BookmarksManage BookmarksToolsImport, Export, etc. Perhaps Linux is different? Larry That is where I would expect the options, and they are not there for Mac OS X. Can't find them *anywhere*... ...OK - I found it. New trick to how the Bookmarks Manager is implemented, I guess. Or something I've never used with SM because I always just work with the raw file. The Toolbar not following the Bookmarks Manager window was what was throwing me. Something maybe the SM UI/UE folks should consider... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
My bloviated meandering follows what WLS graced us with on 1/23/2012
6:44 PM:
On 01/23/2012 09:32 PM, Sailfish wrote:
My bloviated meandering follows what David E. Ross graced us with on
1/23/2012 5:04 PM:
On 1/22/12 12:14 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
When I try to install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1, I get the
following error: BetterPrivacy could not be installed because it is
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.6.1. I get this even when I attempt to
install directly from the AMO site (not my usual practice).
By the way, selecting the link
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/
redirects to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/.
Examining the install.rdf file for 1.68, I believe SeaMonkey
compatibility was intentionally blocked.
For SeaMonkey, the install.rdf file has
!--SeaMonkey--
Description RDF:about=rdf:#$dLacB4
em:id={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
em:minVersion=2.0a1
em:maxVersion=2.6.*
/
Notice the RDF:about, not the em:maxVersion.
At the end of the install.rdf file, the line
that points to SeaMonkey has been commented out as
!--em:targetApplication RDF:resource=rdf:#$dLacB4/--
Notice the RDF:resource, which should be pointing to the RDF:about.
However, strings bracketed between !-- and -- are comments.
Good sleuthing on your part. I uncommented the targetApplication entry
and replaced the install.rdf file and it installed fine. Also, I noticed
that it's not listed when I searched the Seamonkey Addons Privacy
section,
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/privacy-and-security/?sort=users
Doesn't SeaMonkey clear Flash Cookies, like Firefox, so Better Privacy
is no longer needed?
Maybe, but I'm not even sure what all the add-on does (I don't use it)
but it does seem to still be available for Firefox.
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Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/23/12 3:59 AM, Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: snip By the way, selecting the link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/. This is because AMO seems to only check the latest add-on version, which is no longer declared compatible with SM (author's fault). HTH Jens Jens, is this possibly caused by the fact that the SM Build ID mentions FF before SM, e.g... Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 so goes looking for FF extensions?? Not in my case. I have disabled Advertise Firefox compatibility. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 There is no Firefox. so, obviously, David, it would have no reason to go looking for FF add ons, however my, stock-standard, Build ID *does*Z mention FF!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install BetterPrivacy 1.68 in SeaMonkey 2.6.1
Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: By the way, selecting the link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/. This is because AMO seems to only check the latest add-on version, which is no longer declared compatible with SM (author's fault). Jens, is this possibly caused by the fact that the SM Build ID mentions FF before SM, e.g... Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 so goes looking for FF extensions?? No. If you go to a /seamonkey/addon/ URL and the latest version of that add-on is available for SM, then it sticks. The order of occurrences in the UA has no effect on that. However, once you're on the FF version of the page, the version check there is wrong (it takes SM's version, puts Firefox in front of it and then displays that to you. Reported multiple times already.). HTH Jens I just clicked on the /seamonkey/addon/betterprivacy/ link above and got re-directed to the ../firefox/addon/betterprivacy page again!! Displays BetterPrivacy 1.68 and asks if I want to add it to Firefox and mentions that it may be incorporated with FF 2.6.1!! Note that I was definitely re-directed from the SM page to the FF page. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: quick ques: how to keep download dialog open
Lolita18Snider wrote: freelance writer Darn...I thought that m.s.seamonkey NG access via Google Groups may have been barred as a way to stop these spam posts!! Have to come up with a new theory now!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-01-23 7:28 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly: Jay, I seem to remember some time ago (months), these groups were being spammed from Google Groups with posts to old threads advertising freelance writer. These posts seem to have stopped (for how long??), so could this be a result of the fix?? It's a result of me removing them before you see them. :) I've got some bad news for you then, ChrisICheck out the Re: quick ques: how to keep download dialog open thread from about 2008. I suppose everyone deserves a day off now and again. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?
Michael Lueck wrote: Daniel wrote: Michael Lueck wrote: Snip File-Compact Folders more often.Does your machine often stall just after you've done one of your weekly profile clean ups and back-ups?? Stall after clean/compact!?!? It always runs snappy and great. I have no idea what you might be referring to. Sincerely, So does your SM lose sub-folders just after you've done a Compact?? The next day?? Day three after the compaction?? Or is it always day six or seven before you start losing sub-folders? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6.1...not pleased...
Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Larry S. wrote: Michael Lueck wrote: Rufus wrote: I went looking for an option like that (which is what I'd expected to find and be able to use) and it isn't there. There isn't any option for Tools under Bookmarks, nor is there an option for Import under Tools. I can't find an Import (or Export) option of any kind under any of the Menus Per the official binary build of 2.6.1 for Linux: Window \ Address Book Once there Tools \ Import... Tools \ Export... In XP SP3 SM 2.6.1: BookmarksManage BookmarksToolsImport, Export, etc. Perhaps Linux is different? Larry That is where I would expect the options, and they are not there for Mac OS X. Can't find them *anywhere*... OK - I found it. New trick to how the Bookmarks Manager is implemented, I guess. Or something I've never used with SM because I always just work with the raw file. The Toolbar not following the Bookmarks Manager window was what was throwing me. Something maybe the SM UI/UE folks should consider... So, for the benefit of all the other Mac users here, where did you find it, Rufus?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
