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Re: Filters not usable on newgroups

2012-03-23 Thread gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com


PhillipJones schreef:

I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps

I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that
offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers.
One more or less said "don't Bother me".

The other did remove the messages like the should have.

So decided to create filters to mark them read.

They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has
removed the ability to filter news Groups.

When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't
want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each
group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the
group.

To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to
do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it.




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Re: Filters not usable on newgroups

2012-03-23 Thread Rufus


chicagofan wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Paul wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps

I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that
offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New
Servers.
One more or less said "don't Bother me".

The other did remove the messages like the should have.

So decided to create filters to mark them read.

They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has
removed the ability to filter news Groups.

When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I
don't
want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through
each
group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading
the
group.

To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I
want to
do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it.



Have you tried "deleting" them? Filters work fine for me in ngs,
but I
choose to delete them in the filter.
bj



This is what I get :
http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ


afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119.
I don't know about 2+.
At any rate, I have never been able to find or use
such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings...
at least not easily and possibly not legally.



I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've
misunderstood about how "Delete Messages" is accomplished.

We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message
*filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so
nice. :)
bj



I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the
stuff.



It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in
YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're
offensive... and you're not going to read them?
bj



That what I do - delete message.  Why even bother downloading what you 
want to filter anyway?


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Re: Filters not usable on newgroups

2012-03-23 Thread GerardJan

PhillipJones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/23/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 03/23/2012 03:01 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps

I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that
offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New
Servers.
One more or less said "don't Bother me".

The other did remove the messages like the should have.

So decided to create filters to mark them read.

They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has
removed the ability to filter news Groups.

Not so. I just subscribed to that newsgroup& before reading the
headers, I created a filter on your email address. I then clicked on the
newsgroup, loaded 500 headers& marked the others as read. A sample from
my filter log:

Applied filter "Phillip" to message from PhillipJones
- Replying to your own message in Mail at
03/22/2012 07:09:09 AM tagged

Applied filter "Phillip" to message from PhillipJones
- Why do most people dislike filthy faggots? at
03/22/2012 07:16:35 AM tagged

Applied filter "Phillip" to message from Phillip Jones
- (offensive title removed) at 03/22/2012
08:39:47 AM tagged

Applied filter "Phillip" to message from Phillip Jones
- Replying to your own message in Mail at
03/22/2012 10:21:37 AM tagged

Keep in mind that NG filters are applied and in effect _after_ you've
created the filter. There is no ability (that I'm aware) the 'Run Now'
in NG's as there is in emails.

Hint re your list spammer... an easy nuke to that one is to filter on:
X-Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com
(you can also send your complaints there as well)

Sorry forgot another hint - the offensive one also cross posts to
multiple groups:

Newsgroups:
comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.music.beatles,alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees,alt.politics.homosexuality

It's quite easy to set up a crosspost filter:

Filtername: Crosspost
Match all of the following
Newsgroups contains ,
Yep, just filter on the comma.

Sounds interesting I might have to setup such a Filter.

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Re: Filters not usable on newgroups

2012-03-23 Thread chicagofan


PhillipJones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Paul wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps

I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that
offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New
Servers.
One more or less said "don't Bother me".

The other did remove the messages like the should have.

So decided to create filters to mark them read.

They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has
removed the ability to filter news Groups.

When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't
want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through
each
group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading
the
group.

To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I
want to
do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it.



Have you tried "deleting" them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I
choose to delete them in the filter.
bj



This is what I get :
http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ


afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119.
I don't know about 2+.
At any rate, I have never been able to find or use
such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings...
at least not easily and possibly not legally.



I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've
misunderstood about how "Delete Messages" is accomplished.

We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message
*filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so
nice. :)
bj



I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the
stuff.



It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in 
YOUR newsgroup download.  Why do you want to see them if they're 
offensive... and you're not going to read them?

bj




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Re: Filters not usable on newgroups

2012-03-23 Thread PhillipJones

NoOp wrote:

On 03/23/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 03/23/2012 03:01 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps

I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that
offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers.
One more or less said "don't Bother me".