Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme

2012-05-18 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:59:01 -0400, W3BNR wrote:
 I accomplished two things this last week:
 1.  New Computer - now running Windows 7
 2.  Installed SM 2.9.1 on new computer
 
 Using the SM Default Theme when I 'hover' over an item, either the icon for a
 drop-down menu or an item in the drop-down menu the text changes to white and
 the background is the same as the existing background except lighter..  Very
 hard to read what is selected.
 
 If I switch to SM Modern Theme this hovering action shows black text on a 
 light
 blue background.  Easy to read.
 
 Also on my Linux Mint machine running SM 2.9.1 Default theme the background is
 black and the text is white. Also easy to read.
 
 This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7.  Anyone else seeing 
 this?

For Classic we generally use the native OS widgets (menus and menuitems)
so you are likely seeing us picking the colours from the current OS
theme. As to why you are only seeing this in 2.9.x perhaps we (or rather
core code) is picking up rather more of the OS styling than before.

Phil

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread gjikkl

Jean Zebloski wrote:

Why would Seamonkey be chewing up 430 megs of RAM all the time?

Because it makes ineficient use of cache, but works toward that has been 
initiated and they say will continue to improve over time, for now he 
have to settle for a FAT SEAMONKEY, that's getting thiner VERY SLOWLY.

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread gjikkl

Ed Mullen wrote:

Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.


Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread gjikkl
INstead why don't you ask yourself: am I making stupid assumptions 
based on information I recollected myself as true? How can you assume a 
PC would have 4MB of RAM? not even a Cell phone has that little, if you 
don't know anything about computers I'd suggest to shut up and inform 
yourself before writing anything else.

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Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme

2012-05-18 Thread gjikkl
That's not SM fault, is yours, something is wrong with your video 
sus-system.

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How do I import SeaMonkey v2.0.14's addressbooks into SeaMonkey v2.9.1's addresbooks?

2012-05-18 Thread Ant

Hello!

I did a clean installation of v2.9.1 and manually copied over my old SM 
v2.0.14 addressbooks, bookmarks, and e-mails to my Linux/Debian box. I 
got my bookmarks imported manually, but I can't seem to import my old 
addresssbooks from *.mab files. Do I really have to export them to non 
.mab formats and then import from them?


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
gjikkl wrote:

 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.
 
 Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.

Pray tell, what pages are opened in those 18 tabs?

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread gjikkl

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

gjikkl wrote:


Ed Mullen wrote:

Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.


Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.


Pray tell, what pages are opened in those 18 tabs?


Sorry I can't.
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Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme

2012-05-18 Thread W3BNR
On 5/18/2012 7:34 AM Philip Chee submitted the following:
 On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:59:01 -0400, W3BNR wrote:
 I accomplished two things this last week:
 1.  New Computer - now running Windows 7
 2.  Installed SM 2.9.1 on new computer

 Using the SM Default Theme when I 'hover' over an item, either the icon for a
 drop-down menu or an item in the drop-down menu the text changes to white and
 the background is the same as the existing background except lighter..  Very
 hard to read what is selected.

 If I switch to SM Modern Theme this hovering action shows black text on a 
 light
 blue background.  Easy to read.

 Also on my Linux Mint machine running SM 2.9.1 Default theme the background 
 is
 black and the text is white. Also easy to read.

 This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7.  Anyone else seeing 
 this?
 
 For Classic we generally use the native OS widgets (menus and menuitems)
 so you are likely seeing us picking the colours from the current OS
 theme. As to why you are only seeing this in 2.9.x perhaps we (or rather
 core code) is picking up rather more of the OS styling than before.
 
 Phil
 

Thanks Phil.  As mentioned, this happened when 2 things got changed at one time.
Previously was running Win XP-Pro SP3 with SM 2.8.  Now running Win 7 SP1 2.9.1.
I'll investigate the OS and see what I can find, if anything.

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

gjikkl wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.


Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.


gjikkl.  Just for funnsies, How about opening just 12 tabs and reporting
on a more comparable case.

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
gjikkl wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 gjikkl wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM
 used.

 Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.

 Pray tell, what pages are opened in those 18 tabs?

 Sorry I can't.

Because you don't want to reveal, or because you can't remember?

The reason I asked is because your half-gigabyte is way far and above 
what I get from a similar number of tabs. If one is checking memory used 
by *tabs*, one does not normally load up a dozen different pages filled 
with images and videos which will skew the results. My testing page for 
this experiment was a simple local page of about 4 KB, opened a dozen 
times and resulting in less than a tenth of your version.

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

gjikkl wrote:

INstead why don't you ask yourself: am I making stupid assumptions based on
information I recollected myself as true? How can you assume a PC would have
4MB of RAM? not even a Cell phone has that little, if you don't know anything
about computers I'd suggest to shut up and inform yourself before writing
anything else.


Jahwohl master gjikkl!
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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

gjikkl wrote:


Ed Mullen wrote:

Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.


Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.


Pray tell, what pages are opened in those 18 tabs?


Minor detail !
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Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme

2012-05-18 Thread Philip Chee
On 19/05/2012 03:06, W3BNR wrote:
 On 5/18/2012 7:34 AM Philip Chee submitted the following:

 This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7.  Anyone else seeing 
 this?
 
 For Classic we generally use the native OS widgets (menus and menuitems)
 so you are likely seeing us picking the colours from the current OS
 theme. As to why you are only seeing this in 2.9.x perhaps we (or rather
 core code) is picking up rather more of the OS styling than before.
 
 Phil
 
 
 Thanks Phil.  As mentioned, this happened when 2 things got changed at one 
 time.
 Previously was running Win XP-Pro SP3 with SM 2.8.  Now running Win 7 SP1 
 2.9.1.
 I'll investigate the OS and see what I can find, if anything.

Ah, Now that you mention it. On the Windows 7 desktop right click on a
blank area, and select Personalize. In the themes window scroll all
the way down and select Windows Classic. This is the OS theme I'm
using which may explain why I'm not seeing your problem. I only turn on
the default Aero theme when I'm testing a theme patch that depends on it.

Phil

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Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme

2012-05-18 Thread W3BNR
On 5/18/2012 4:34 PM Philip Chee submitted the following:
 On 19/05/2012 03:06, W3BNR wrote:
 On 5/18/2012 7:34 AM Philip Chee submitted the following:
 
 This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7.  Anyone else seeing 
 this?

 For Classic we generally use the native OS widgets (menus and menuitems)
 so you are likely seeing us picking the colours from the current OS
 theme. As to why you are only seeing this in 2.9.x perhaps we (or rather
 core code) is picking up rather more of the OS styling than before.

 Phil


 Thanks Phil.  As mentioned, this happened when 2 things got changed at one 
 time.
 Previously was running Win XP-Pro SP3 with SM 2.8.  Now running Win 7 SP1 
 2.9.1.
 I'll investigate the OS and see what I can find, if anything.
 
 Ah, Now that you mention it. On the Windows 7 desktop right click on a
 blank area, and select Personalize. In the themes window scroll all
 the way down and select Windows Classic. This is the OS theme I'm
 using which may explain why I'm not seeing your problem. I only turn on
 the default Aero theme when I'm testing a theme patch that depends on it.
 
 Phil
 

Ah, yes.  There-in lies the answer.  Thanks again, Phil.  I never even thought
of looking there.  And I had run out of ideas.  I shudder to even think of Win8.

Ed, W3BNR


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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Rufus

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

gjikkl wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.


Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.


gjikkl. Just for funnsies, How about opening just 12 tabs and reporting
on a more comparable case.



...on my Mac, with 12 tabs open - 1 to my Exite home page, and the other 
11 to Google (which is mostly white-space) my Activity Monitor shows SM 
2.9.1 using 409.2M of real memory, and 301.2M of virtual memory - which 
is odd to me, because I have my cashe set to zero and have 8G of RAM 
installed, so I wouldn't expect SM to use *any* VM.


Or should I?..

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Ed Mullen

gjikkl wrote:

INstead why don't you ask yourself: am I making stupid assumptions
based on information I recollected myself as true? How can you assume a
PC would have 4MB of RAM? not even a Cell phone has that little, if you
don't know anything about computers I'd suggest to shut up and inform
yourself before writing anything else.


Sorry, you've clipped all preceding content so I have not a clue what 
you're talking about/replying to.


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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-18 Thread Ed Mullen

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

gjikkl wrote:


Ed Mullen wrote:

Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used.


Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used.


Pray tell, what pages are opened in those 18 tabs?



You want URLs?  Shit, I have no idea, I just opened random URLs.

But, not Flash pages that I remember. Nor Java ones. Fairly plain-Jane 
pages.


And, yes, sure, that would affect the data.  But, hell, no one in this 
discussion seems to have offered any rigourous method of analysis.  I 
was just offering my two cents in case anyone cared to observe it.


So, pray tell what do you have to offer other than a veiled slur on my 
post?


Or, as one of my best friends is fond of saying:  Bite me.

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