Re: SM hanging

2012-11-04 Thread Daniel

Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay.  I /may/ have sorted this out.

I have 7 email accounts, two news servers, and 10 newsgroups in my SM
profile.

After pondering this, I staggered when each checked for new messages.
That is, by example:

email1:  every 3 minutes
email2:  every 5 minutes
email3:  every 7 minutes

...

etc.

Instead of having them all check every three minutes.

This seems to have stopped the horrible problem of SM hannging.

I'm just guesing that having them all gear up and check the server at
the same time was the problem.

FYI:  In these email accounts there are three different mail servers.

In the news groups there are two servers involved.

Not sure if this is the answer but if it can help the others who seem to
have had the same issue ...

But, I now longer seem to have the issues I have before, e.g. typing for
20 seconds with nothing appearing and having the keyboard buffered etc.
only to appear later.



Now that you mention it, Ed..

On one of my UseNet servers, I have about 40-45 groups, and when I 
expand the server, the computer does tend to lock up whilst addressing 
the server and updating the "Unread" and "Total" figures.


So, if I think about it, I try to expand the UseNet server after I've 
gotten the last un-read message from this servers groups. Usually means 
the UseNet Groups are updated whilst I'm reading what's on screen!!


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Re: Email Outgoing "Reply-to" Addresses

2012-11-04 Thread Daniel

philmat11 wrote:

I just changed ISP - from HughesNet to WildBlue/ViaSat.  During the transition SM was updated to 2.13.  I use four accounts, the 
primary account, and three auxiliary accounts for various functions.  Prior to these changes, when an auxiliary account was used, 
the "reply to" address in the header would be that of the auxiliary account, now the "reply to" address is 
always that of the primary account.  When I check the "sent" folder, the header lists the account address that I used 
to create the email, but the person receiving the email gets the primary account address and all "replies" tumble back 
into my primary account causing a mess.  As before, the primary account SMTP server is listed as "default," but prior 
to the changes, the addresses for the auxiliary accounts would stay in place.  One difference between ISP settings; before the 
outgoing server was port 25 - non-secure, now using port 465 - SSL/TLS.

I'm told by the WildBlue tech-troll that the problem is with my email client 
even though it's a new problem and WildBlue has been the only change, with the 
exception of the SM update to 2.13.

Whether it's WildBlue or SM, I'd really like to get the "reply to" addresses to 
reflect the account I use.  Any cures available?



Phil, I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to do, but.!

If I wanted to sent your post to a friend, for example, I would need to 
change the "From" address, as I don't have "send email" privliges on 
this account, so, in the e-mail, I click on drop-down arrow in the 
"From" line in the Compose window and select the required e-mail 
address, so it will seem that the e-mail has been sent from the required 
account. No need for a "Reply To:" address.


Is this what you're after??

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Re: SM hanging

2012-11-04 Thread Tony Mechelynck

On 05/11/12 03:27, Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay.  I /may/ have sorted this out.

I have 7 email accounts, two news servers, and 10 newsgroups in my SM
profile.

After pondering this, I staggered when each checked for new messages.
That is, by example:

email1:  every 3 minutes
email2:  every 5 minutes
email3:  every 7 minutes

...

etc.

Instead of having them all check every three minutes.

This seems to have stopped the horrible problem of SM hannging.

I'm just guesing that having them all gear up and check the server at
the same time was the problem.


Quite possibly: since all accounts are usually checked at mail startup, 
if you check them all at a common frequency SeaMonkey will become very 
busy at that frequency, with a risk of periodic hangs. Staggering the 
server polls makes the mailer less busy more often: in your example, at 
3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15*, 18, 20, 21*, 24, 25, 27, 28, 30*… 
minutes after startup; it's only every 105 minutes (1 h 45 min; the 
least common multiple of 3, 5 and 7) that all three of these servers 
will again be polled together.




FYI:  In these email accounts there are three different mail servers.

In the news groups there are two servers involved.

Not sure if this is the answer but if it can help the others who seem to
have had the same issue ...

But, I now longer seem to have the issues I have before, e.g. typing for
20 seconds with nothing appearing and having the keyboard buffered etc.
only to appear later.



Good to know your problem was solved — and that you thought of telling 
others about it.



Best regards,
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SM hanging

2012-11-04 Thread Ed Mullen

Okay.  I /may/ have sorted this out.

I have 7 email accounts, two news servers, and 10 newsgroups in my SM 
profile.


After pondering this, I staggered when each checked for new messages. 
That is, by example:


email1:  every 3 minutes
email2:  every 5 minutes
email3:  every 7 minutes

...

etc.

Instead of having them all check every three minutes.

This seems to have stopped the horrible problem of SM hannging.

I'm just guesing that having them all gear up and check the server at 
the same time was the problem.


FYI:  In these email accounts there are three different mail servers.

In the news groups there are two servers involved.

Not sure if this is the answer but if it can help the others who seem to 
have had the same issue ...


But, I now longer seem to have the issues I have before, e.g. typing for 
20 seconds with nothing appearing and having the keyboard buffered etc. 
only to appear later.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Rufus

Michael Gordon wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover
many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links
worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the
underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

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Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create
your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when
they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very
poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



David,

I agree.  When the mouse passes over something that might be a link, the
text link should change.  It is called Hover, and when the mouse hovers
over a link an underline should appear, or the background should change
color, or if it is an image link the image should roll over.  Too many
web sites use JavaScript to make these happen, but CSS can do it without
JavaScript and accomplish the same task.

Michael G



My cursor always changes from an arrow to a pointing hand, never the
text. Isn't that the way it's always been?  Change the cursor?



When the mouse passes over a hyper-link the cursor is supposed to change
to a different icon, it is system dependent.  Your changes according to
Microsoft 98 - XP.



Actually, I'm on a Mac...but I've always assumed that this was an 
interface "standard" because I see the same on my work PC.



However, the web designer can ise scripting to change the cursor icon
wile visiting the web site, and then go back to normal when leaving the
web site.



I'll have to watch for that.  I can't recall ever noticing a 
site-specific cursor.



The use of CSS to control the action of a link when hovering is an added
visual cue about the link.  Some web designers remove all underlines
from all hyper-links to make the page more attractive.

Michael G



The only time I notice links that aren't underlined (on a Mac) is when 
they are imbedded in an image - like a banner or such.  And then I 
generally get a tool-tip for the embedded link if I hover long enough.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Rufus

Michael Gordon wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover
many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links
worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the
underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
   JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create
your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



I've noticed an increasing number of instances where a download doesn't
terminate the Progress dialog properly - forex, you're downloading a
.pdf or .sit file and the Progress dialog indicates "Finished" in the
text but the Progress barber pole continues to spin.  In all cases the
file has been downloaded properly though.

I'm assuming that since it terminates properly in some instances but not
in others that the problem rests with the transferring website?



Yes.  Maybe the originating web site is expecting a finale termination
message from the downloading web site, does not get one, and therefore
makes the browser think it is not finished.

Or, maybe the web site is using third party servers to store images, and
your browser has turned off third party images.

Michael G



I accept all images, but I do have third party cookies turned off and 
always have.  Never seen this until recently.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Gordon

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the
underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
   JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



I've noticed an increasing number of instances where a download doesn't
terminate the Progress dialog properly - forex, you're downloading a
.pdf or .sit file and the Progress dialog indicates "Finished" in the
text but the Progress barber pole continues to spin.  In all cases the
file has been downloaded properly though.

I'm assuming that since it terminates properly in some instances but not
in others that the problem rests with the transferring website?



Yes.  Maybe the originating web site is expecting a finale termination 
message from the downloading web site, does not get one, and therefore 
makes the browser think it is not finished.


Or, maybe the web site is using third party servers to store images, and 
your browser has turned off third party images.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Gordon

Rufus wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover
many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links
worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the
underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
   JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create
your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



David,

I agree.  When the mouse passes over something that might be a link, the
text link should change.  It is called Hover, and when the mouse hovers
over a link an underline should appear, or the background should change
color, or if it is an image link the image should roll over.  Too many
web sites use JavaScript to make these happen, but CSS can do it without
JavaScript and accomplish the same task.

Michael G



My cursor always changes from an arrow to a pointing hand, never the
text. Isn't that the way it's always been?  Change the cursor?



When the mouse passes over a hyper-link the cursor is supposed to change 
to a different icon, it is system dependent.  Your changes according to 
Microsoft 98 - XP.


However, the web designer can ise scripting to change the cursor icon 
wile visiting the web site, and then go back to normal when leaving the 
web site.


The use of CSS to control the action of a link when hovering is an added 
visual cue about the link.  Some web designers remove all underlines 
from all hyper-links to make the page more attractive.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Rufus

Michael Gordon wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the
underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
   JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



David,

I agree.  When the mouse passes over something that might be a link, the
text link should change.  It is called Hover, and when the mouse hovers
over a link an underline should appear, or the background should change
color, or if it is an image link the image should roll over.  Too many
web sites use JavaScript to make these happen, but CSS can do it without
JavaScript and accomplish the same task.

Michael G



My cursor always changes from an arrow to a pointing hand, never the 
text. Isn't that the way it's always been?  Change the cursor?


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Gordon

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
   JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



David,

I agree.  When the mouse passes over something that might be a link, the 
text link should change.  It is called Hover, and when the mouse hovers 
over a link an underline should appear, or the background should change 
color, or if it is an image link the image should roll over.  Too many 
web sites use JavaScript to make these happen, but CSS can do it without 
JavaScript and accomplish the same task.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
   JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create your
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page
document CSS.

Michael



Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.



I've noticed an increasing number of instances where a download doesn't 
terminate the Progress dialog properly - forex, you're downloading a 
.pdf or .sit file and the Progress dialog indicates "Finished" in the 
text but the Progress barber pole continues to spin.  In all cases the 
file has been downloaded properly though.


I'm assuming that since it terminates properly in some instances but not 
in others that the problem rests with the transferring website?


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Re: Email Outgoing "Reply-to" Addresses

2012-11-04 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Each of these appears on its own in the left pane, and in its own
"From"
box in the Account Settings for each, and all replies go to their
individual Inboxes. I leave the "Reply-To" fields blank. If there is
anything in any of your "Reply-To" fields, erase the data.


You know, it begins to sound as if he's inadvertently populated the
Reply-To fields for the various accounts with data that properly belong
in the From field, so the correct action would be to MOVE those
addresses to where they belong, not delete them.


This could be the case, though I've never tried using an address with a
blank "From" field. I suppose it might work, though I don't know why
anyone (except possibly a spammer ) would ever want to do that...


Nor I. I never claimed that his From fields were blank. From his 
description, they all contain the primary email address.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/4/12 9:28 AM, Michael Gordon wrote:
> JohnW-Mpls wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> JohnW-Mpls wrote:
>>>
 I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
 their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
 links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
 I then could navigate and make my changes.

 I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
 class product.
>>>
>>> I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
>>> problem. What does "uncover" mean?
>>>
>>
>> A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the underlining
>> that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..
>>
>> --
>>   JohnW-Mpls
>>
> 
> Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create your 
> own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page 
> document CSS.
> 
> Michael
> 

Yes, I have encountered a number of Web sites where links are not
underlined.  I also find sites where links do not change color when they
are selected or are not colored at all.  Both are condemned as very poor
implementation of Web designs, but they nonetheless exist.

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Gordon

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:


JohnW-Mpls wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
I then could navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
class product.


I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this
problem. What does "uncover" mean?



A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

--
  JohnW-Mpls



Underlining for links can be turned off with CSS, unless you create your 
own CSS file and direct SM to use that file in place of the web page 
document CSS.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Gordon

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:47:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls  wrote:


I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
product.



Well, a day later and now I can navigate GoDaddy using SeaMonkey.

That is typical for SM.  When either SM or the other guy makes a change,  SM
does not work at the time but after few days, SM invaraibly works.

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John,

If you can try the suggestion Beau gave earlier with PrefBar.  Other 
wise go to Edit/Preferences/Advanced/ Scripts & Plugins,  place a check 
in all boxes that are appropriate for your use on the internet.  Pay 
attention to 'Enasble JavaScript for Browser".  This has been a "user 
preference" for many years.


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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
JohnW-Mpls wrote:

> Not  a problem, I use javascript alllot.  However, I went to look at my
> SM settings and cannot remember were JavaScript is mentioned.

Tools > Options > Advanced > Scripts & Plugins

> More time used up fiddling.

Install the PrefBar and put a checkbox for JavaScript (and other important 
stuff) right there on a toolbar in front of your eyes.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/prefbar/

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:47:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls  wrote:

>I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
>website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
>GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
>navigate and make my changes.
>
>I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
>product.


Well, a day later and now I can navigate GoDaddy using SeaMonkey.  

That is typical for SM.  When either SM or the other guy makes a change,  SM
does not work at the time but after few days, SM invaraibly works.

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 21:50:36 -0700, Michael Gordon 
wrote:

>JohnW-Mpls wrote:
>> I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
>> website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
>> GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
>> navigate and make my changes.
>>
>> I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
>> product.
>>
>
>There is a great possibility that JavaScript has been turned off in your 
>browser.  GoDaddy uses a lot of JavaScript to expand several layers of 
>subordinate links.
>
>Michael G

Not  a problem, I use javascript alllot.  However, I went to look at my SM
settings and cannot remember were JavaScript is mentioned.  More time used
up fiddling.

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Re: Email Outgoing "Reply-to" Addresses

2012-11-04 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Each of these appears on its own in the left pane, and in its own
>> "From"
>> box in the Account Settings for each, and all replies go to their
>> individual Inboxes. I leave the "Reply-To" fields blank. If there is
>> anything in any of your "Reply-To" fields, erase the data.
> 
> You know, it begins to sound as if he's inadvertently populated the
> Reply-To fields for the various accounts with data that properly belong
> in the From field, so the correct action would be to MOVE those
> addresses to where they belong, not delete them.

This could be the case, though I've never tried using an address with a 
blank "From" field. I suppose it might work, though I don't know why 
anyone (except possibly a spammer ) would ever want to do that...

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher"
 wrote:

>JohnW-Mpls wrote:
>
>> I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
>> their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
>> links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
>> I then could navigate and make my changes.
>>
>> I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
>> class product.
>
>I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this 
>problem. What does "uncover" mean?
>

A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:59:53 -0500, Jay Garcia 
wrote:

>On 03.11.2012 16:47, JohnW-Mpls wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
>> website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
>> GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
>> navigate and make my changes.
>> 
>> I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
>> product.
>> 
>
>Possible to point us to a link or two that doesn't work? If not, not
>much we can do. What type of link, straight html or what?

Oh sure, I could do tht but I was trying to get something done.  My message
here was just my bitching - letting off a little steam.

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Re: Email Outgoing "Reply-to" Addresses

2012-11-04 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


philmat11 wrote:


Beauregard

Many thanks, it's a step forward.  However it adds the auxiliary account
as a "Reply to" but leaves the "From" as my primary account.  This is
what I'm trying to avoid, particularly for my business account.  If you
give someone two choices they usually go for the one you won't want them
to use.


The "From" is whatever account you are using. You set the "Reply-To" to
the same address (although as Paul mentioned, it is normally not
necessary).

For example, I have 17 email addresses. such as:

beaurega...@example.com
beaurega...@example.com
beaurega...@example.com

Each of these appears on its own in the left pane, and in its own "From"
box in the Account Settings for each, and all replies go to their
individual Inboxes. I leave the "Reply-To" fields blank. If there is
anything in any of your "Reply-To" fields, erase the data.


You know, it begins to sound as if he's inadvertently populated the 
Reply-To fields for the various accounts with data that properly belong 
in the From field, so the correct action would be to MOVE those 
addresses to where they belong, not delete them.


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Re: Email Outgoing "Reply-to" Addresses

2012-11-04 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
philmat11 wrote:

> Beauregard
> 
> Many thanks, it's a step forward.  However it adds the auxiliary account
> as a "Reply to" but leaves the "From" as my primary account.  This is
> what I'm trying to avoid, particularly for my business account.  If you
> give someone two choices they usually go for the one you won't want them
> to use.

The "From" is whatever account you are using. You set the "Reply-To" to 
the same address (although as Paul mentioned, it is normally not 
necessary).

For example, I have 17 email addresses. such as:

   beaurega...@example.com
   beaurega...@example.com
   beaurega...@example.com

Each of these appears on its own in the left pane, and in its own "From" 
box in the Account Settings for each, and all replies go to their 
individual Inboxes. I leave the "Reply-To" fields blank. If there is 
anything in any of your "Reply-To" fields, erase the data.

> Is there a way of using the SMTP from each account rather than using the
> default?

Ah, a new question. Assuming (you didn't say) all your email addresses are 
from the same domain/ISP account, you only need one SMTP server set up. It 
has no bearing on where or how a reply to you will be handled.

I have four SMTP settings, but then I also have email addresses spread 
across four different domain names - one for each. Your ISP may restrict 
you to using other domain addresses, but that is yet another question.

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