Re: Bye bye seamonkey
question wrote: Since Seamonkey is set to Disable Java as it startup,, many of us will be moving to INTERNET EXPLOITER .. How many of you?? Seems to me, if SeaMonkey is disabling Java (because *Java* has a known problem), why would you then want to move to MSIE (which, I'm guessing, has the same problem with Java), and have to deal with MSIE's other problems (like ActiveX, .)!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Charlie Siracuse cs...@verizon.net wrote: I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any requests for seamonkey access. Let's get as many as possible to request this access. I did get a phone response. Many, many website owners have no idea what Seamonkey is and what they need to do to support it. (often no more than recognizing it and handling it as Firefox) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.14.1 won't remember Browser and Email window positions
b...@cowboyneeds.com b...@cowboyneeds.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:47:17 PM UTC-5, bi...@cowboyneeds.com wrote: We are a business and always have both the Browser and Email windows open in Win XP. These are both checked to open when SeaMonkey starts. The default use to be Browser first, then email to the right. If somehow this order was changed, you could put them in the order you want, exit SeaMonkey, and upon restart it would open with the window positions you had upon exit. The latest SeaMonkey update starts with Email on the left, and the Browser to the right, and will not remember these if changed and restarted. It is a small thing, but the reason we use SeaMonkey (and always used Netscape) is it lets us customize much better than IE. Does anybody know how to force SeaMonkey to open with Browser on left and Email on right, on the Win XP task bar. We have multiple computers and SeaMonkey profiles, so consistency is important. Thanks Michael Gordon. I am talking about the System Task Bar with the Clock. Either a Windows XP, or a SeaMonkey update, changed this behavior. SeaMonkey always use to reopen its component windows in the order they were in when we last closed the program, but now when opened, it always forces the SeaMonkey Email component to open first, and be closest to the Start button. We always have SeaMonkey's Browser and Email windows open on the System Task Bar. We are an internet store, and frequently are replying to customers emails with links to specific products on our html website. Those are the main programs we have open, and use constantly, throughout the day. While we may also need to open Excel, an HTML editor, an FTP program, etc., it is always handiest to have the SeaMonkey Browser window open to the far left on the System Task Bar (closest to Start button), and then SeaMonkey Email, and then other programs to the right of these, which get opened and closed throughout the day. When this order changes, we have to spend more time hunting the correct window on the System Task Bar to click, instead of just knowing where it is. Its an annoyance more than anything, I just don't know what changed in one of the updates, but it effected four computers at the same time, so this is not a one computer preference setting. I have done a work around by only having SeaMonkey open the Browser, and then we click SeaMonkey's Email icon to open the Email component to the right. We have multiple SeaMonkey Profiles, so it is just one more step every time we open SeaMonkey. I was hoping somebody knew what changed, and a simple fix. Simple fix: do NOT configure the e-mail window to open on startup. Only open the browser window on startup. Once the browser opens, click on the little envelope in the bottom left of the window, and the e-mail window will open. Now the buttons will be in the order that you like, with only a single click. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bye bye seamonkey
On 1/19/2013 10:09 PM PT, question typed: Since Seamonkey is set to Disable Java as it startup,, many of us will be moving to INTERNET EXPLOITER .. Why? Mozilla does the same to Firefox by design (security holes). -- When you turn on a light in a room, what happens? Shaw said. The roaches scatter, but the ants keep marching. You can step on them, throw water on them, but they keep on marching. I want ants for my defense. --Willy Shaw /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bye bye seamonkey
Daniel wrote: question wrote: Since Seamonkey is set to Disable Java as it startup,, many of us will be moving to INTERNET EXPLOITER .. How many of you?? Seems to me, if SeaMonkey is disabling Java (because *Java* has a known problem), why would you then want to move to MSIE (which, I'm guessing, has the same problem with Java), and have to deal with MSIE's other problems (like ActiveX, .)!! My problem is not that it is disabling it, but it keeps trying to install 7u10 when 7u11 was installed yesterday. Anybody got a fix for that? Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem
Roger Fink wrote: question wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm running Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far as I know, the settings for Java, and the browser configurations, are identical, or as close to that as possible, from machine to machine. On XP everything works fine, but I'm having a Java problem on Win7. At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey asked for permission to run and committed it to memory. So no problem there. But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to access streaming quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to launch java. Firefox launches java here without a problem. Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it was about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try. I've noticed that one other site with a similar application, and where I would expect the same problem of not being able to launch java to occur, works OK, so it appears that the above problem may be site-related. The newest version of Java .. raises the secrity lever Bat to HIGH because of Kackers taking control... It checks for Security Certificates at the web sites. If there expired or have none , it will not function.. Click Java in control panel and lower the security bar to Medium. But download the newest java from Java.com .. They also explain this to you . Here's a question, question. Why don't I have this problem in Firefox 18, which is the equivalent level browser to Seamonkey 15, and which I've configured the same way? Anyway, thanks for the tip. I can't get 7u11 to work in Firefox, SeaMonkey or Chrome, works okay in IE. Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem
Jim Dell wrote: Roger Fink wrote: question wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm running Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far as I know, the settings for Java, and the browser configurations, are identical, or as close to that as possible, from machine to machine. On XP everything works fine, but I'm having a Java problem on Win7. At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey asked for permission to run and committed it to memory. So no problem there. But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to access streaming quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to launch java. Firefox launches java here without a problem. Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it was about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try. I've noticed that one other site with a similar application, and where I would expect the same problem of not being able to launch java to occur, works OK, so it appears that the above problem may be site-related. The newest version of Java .. raises the secrity lever Bat to HIGH because of Kackers taking control... It checks for Security Certificates at the web sites. If there expired or have none , it will not function.. Click Java in control panel and lower the security bar to Medium. But download the newest java from Java.com .. They also explain this to you . Here's a question, question. Why don't I have this problem in Firefox 18, which is the equivalent level browser to Seamonkey 15, and which I've configured the same way? Anyway, thanks for the tip. I can't get 7u11 to work in Firefox, SeaMonkey or Chrome, works okay in IE. Jim I'm chasing what amounts to the same issue, now suspect it's something in how SM decides/records/reports what versions of plugins are installed on the machine. Looks like it's a carry-over from some previous install that went slightly wrong. My existing thread is of-dnumkgvmxfmtnnz2dnuvz_v6dn...@mozilla.org if you want to read. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Rob wrote: Charlie Siracuse cs...@verizon.net wrote: I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any requests for seamonkey access. Let's get as many as possible to request this access. I did get a phone response. Many, many website owners have no idea what Seamonkey is and what they need to do to support it. (often no more than recognizing it and handling it as Firefox) Given that it's not just SeaMonkey that's affected, surely, a better action would be for the website owners/techs to set their sites up to sniff for Gecko! That would fix them for a whole series of browsers, wouldn't it?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem
Jim Dell wrote: Roger Fink wrote: question wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm running Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far as I know, the settings for Java, and the browser configurations, are identical, or as close to that as possible, from machine to machine. On XP everything works fine, but I'm having a Java problem on Win7. At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey asked for permission to run and committed it to memory. So no problem there. But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to access streaming quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to launch java. Firefox launches java here without a problem. Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it was about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try. I've noticed that one other site with a similar application, and where I would expect the same problem of not being able to launch java to occur, works OK, so it appears that the above problem may be site-related. The newest version of Java .. raises the secrity lever Bat to HIGH because of Kackers taking control... It checks for Security Certificates at the web sites. If there expired or have none , it will not function.. Click Java in control panel and lower the security bar to Medium. But download the newest java from Java.com .. They also explain this to you . Here's a question, question. Why don't I have this problem in Firefox 18, which is the equivalent level browser to Seamonkey 15, and which I've configured the same way? Anyway, thanks for the tip. I can't get 7u11 to work in Firefox, SeaMonkey or Chrome, works okay in IE. Jim Looks like Oracle ( Java as sold out to Microsoft . Remember The NETSCAPE days ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Rob wrote: Charlie Siracuse cs...@verizon.net wrote: I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any requests for seamonkey access. Let's get as many as possible to request this access. I did get a phone response. Many, many website owners have no idea what Seamonkey is and what they need to do to support it. (often no more than recognizing it and handling it as Firefox) Given that it's not just SeaMonkey that's affected, surely, a better action would be for the website owners/techs to set their sites up to sniff for Gecko! That would fix them for a whole series of browsers, wouldn't it?? Well, once a website is working with some browsers and not with others, you usually know that it is not very well set up. Printing something in a defined format is better solved using a print stylesheet than with a plugin. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bye bye seamonkey
Jim Dell del...@yahoo.com wrote: Daniel wrote: question wrote: Since Seamonkey is set to Disable Java as it startup,, many of us will be moving to INTERNET EXPLOITER .. How many of you?? Seems to me, if SeaMonkey is disabling Java (because *Java* has a known problem), why would you then want to move to MSIE (which, I'm guessing, has the same problem with Java), and have to deal with MSIE's other problems (like ActiveX, .)!! My problem is not that it is disabling it, but it keeps trying to install 7u10 when 7u11 was installed yesterday. Anybody got a fix for that? Maybe it helps when you remove the file blocklist.xml from your profile directory while the program is not running. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!
Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run. ... Side note: Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest version of the JAVA plugin. It is time to jump the sinking ship. The Mozilla Fire Breathing Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to rest with honors. Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride. On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright red message, Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution, followed by a link to More information, which points here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p182. Details of the block request are available here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829111. Using SM 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet, and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying I had to click here to activate plugin. I clicked, Java started, and it ran normally. I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned, logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not enable Java globally or permanently. Accordingly, two points: 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you can, on demand. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances if you need to (and some of us do). I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle placeholder, nuttin'. SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the Java (version) is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution. Then a link called 'More Information' which takes you to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled and no longer usable. Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on? If I'm supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can turn Java back on? If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss And based on the recognition problem you're experiencing, I would completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus. Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall through Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey. I had already done the complete cleanup and re-install of the latest version, but it's not changing anything. In the Java control panel applet, I have ticked the box under 'Advanced - Default java for browsers - Mozilla Family', but as soon as SM opens, the box gets cleared again. And using the Pogo site as called out earlier in this thread, there is no puzzle-piece drawing where I can select and authorize the use of Java, no matter how I set the security level in the Java Cntrl Pnl applet. This is really getting old. Try re-installing the same version of SeaMonkey over itself. Longshot, but longshots are all you have left. OK, think I'm on the right track finally. I'm documenting below what process I've gone thru to get this far, but what it boils down to is something in the current profile which appears to cause a version reporting issue between installed Java vs how SM reads/reports this. And no, clearing cookies/cache/etc. has no effect. Java applet tick boxes aren't really having any effect, but here's what I do know: A sterile test profile doesn't have the Java issues--it all works fine. Looking at the Plugins list thru Add-on Mgr shows both the current installed Java version (7 upd 11) and the Java Deployment Toolkit (a sub-component installed as part of the JRE.) The troubled profile shows the same 2 components, but the JRE entry shows a security warning with a web link, and the web link article states Java functionality has been shut down for my own good. Makes no difference
www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/
Why does this tab always now show up https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ Seamonkey 2.13 thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bye bye seamonkey
Jim Dell wrote: Daniel wrote: question wrote: Since Seamonkey is set to Disable Java as it startup,, many of us will be moving to INTERNET EXPLOITER .. How many of you?? Seems to me, if SeaMonkey is disabling Java (because *Java* has a known problem), why would you then want to move to MSIE (which, I'm guessing, has the same problem with Java), and have to deal with MSIE's other problems (like ActiveX, .)!! My problem is not that it is disabling it, but it keeps trying to install 7u10 when 7u11 was installed yesterday. Anybody got a fix for that? Jim Mine was doing that, Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium, with both 64 bit and 32 bit Java 7u11 installed. Every time I would click on a java object SeaMonkey would want to download 7u10. I copied the java 7u11 plugin from the java directory to the SeaMonkey plugin directory and then SeaMonkey plugin manager would show the 7u11 plugin but Java would not work. It would actually crash SeaMonkey when trying to run www.time.gov or other java pages. I tried several things that didn't work, but what finally did is I uninstalled 32 bit Java 7u11 run time (jre-7u11-windows-i586.exe), then installed 32 bit Java 7u10 run time (jre-7u10-windows-i586.exe), then reinstalled Java 7u11 (jre-7u11-windows-i586.exe) over top of it. After that SeaMonkey see the correct plugin and java is working fine. Of course there is a new exploit for 7u11 so I will probably disable it again. -- Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Rob wrote: Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Rob wrote: Charlie Siracuse cs...@verizon.net wrote: I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any requests for seamonkey access. Let's get as many as possible to request this access. I did get a phone response. Many, many website owners have no idea what Seamonkey is and what they need to do to support it. (often no more than recognizing it and handling it as Firefox) Given that it's not just SeaMonkey that's affected, surely, a better action would be for the website owners/techs to set their sites up to sniff for Gecko! That would fix them for a whole series of browsers, wouldn't it?? Well, once a website is working with some browsers and not with others, you usually know that it is not very well set up. Printing something in a defined format is better solved using a print stylesheet than with a plugin. I think the idea of a coupon printer plug in, at least the way they use it is to limit your ability to print the coupons only once. That is the way it appears to work when using Firefox. I can post a link so you can try it yourself. It is a test coupon sent to me by tech support. http://bricks.coupons.com/z.asp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[linux] closing a tab with middle click [SOLVED]
Having had a crash HDD I had to re-install Seamonkey. I had 2.11 and installed now 2.15 I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on an open tab and it closed. In 2.15 this doesn't work anymore. Is this due to a 'feature change' in 2.15, or was it a plugin in 2.11 which I might have installed? I didn't have to re-install the OS. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] closing a tab with middle click
Hartmut Figge wrote: Béèm: I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on an open tab and it closed. I do not use that, but a test shows that it is so for my SM. Looking into 'about:config' with the filter middle i see middlemouse.contentLoadURL with the value false. Might be worth a try. :) Hartmut Great Hartmut. That did the trick. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Rob wrote: Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Rob wrote: Charlie Siracuse cs...@verizon.net wrote: I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any requests for seamonkey access. Let's get as many as possible to request this access. I did get a phone response. Many, many website owners have no idea what Seamonkey is and what they need to do to support it. (often no more than recognizing it and handling it as Firefox) Given that it's not just SeaMonkey that's affected, surely, a better action would be for the website owners/techs to set their sites up to sniff for Gecko! That would fix them for a whole series of browsers, wouldn't it?? Well, once a website is working with some browsers and not with others, you usually know that it is not very well set up. Printing something in a defined format is better solved using a print stylesheet than with a plugin. I should advise anyone who is using coupon printer that I have found a fix that works. In Firefox, there are 3 files that are in the plugin section related to the coupon printer. You need all 3 files in Seamonkey for it to work. Copy these files from the plug in directory of Firefox to the plug in directory of Seamonkey. They are pretty obvious which files they are. They have dll extensions. Once you are done, run the coupon installer again and it will now print properly. The files all have coupon in the signature under the file name. If some one needs the exact file names, I can post them. Bernie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Rob wrote: Charlie Siracuse cs...@verizon.net wrote: I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any requests for seamonkey access. Let's get as many as possible to request this access. I did get a phone response. Many, many website owners have no idea what Seamonkey is and what they need to do to support it. (often no more than recognizing it and handling it as Firefox) They need to: 1. Design standards-compliant pages 2. Stop sniffing for User Agents (not needed if #1 above is done right) -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A good friend will come and bail you out of jail but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, Dang, that was fun. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
Ed Mullen wrote: They need to: 1. Design standards-compliant pages 2. Stop sniffing for User Agents (not needed if #1 above is done right) And, from bitter experience : provide variant JavaScript based on feature detection, if they intend to make non-trivial use of JavaScript. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer problem solved
I should advise anyone who is using coupon printer that I have found a fix that works. In Firefox, there are 3 files that are in the plugin section related to the coupon printer. You need all 3 files in Seamonkey for it to work. Copy these files from the plug in directory of Firefox to the plug in directory of Seamonkey. They are pretty obvious which files they are. They have dll extensions. Once you are done, run the coupon installer again and it will now print properly. The files all have coupon in the signature under the file name. If some one needs the exact file names, I can post them. Bernie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: coupon printer
bern...@nospam.com bern...@nospam.com wrote: I think the idea of a coupon printer plug in, at least the way they use it is to limit your ability to print the coupons only once. That is the way it appears to work when using Firefox. HAH! That is a good joke... how many copies do you want? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Unbelieveable!!--was Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!
Rickles wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run. ... Side note: Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest version of the JAVA plugin. It is time to jump the sinking ship. The Mozilla Fire Breathing Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to rest with honors. Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride. On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright red message, Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution, followed by a link to More information, which points here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p182. Details of the block request are available here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829111. Using SM 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet, and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying I had to click here to activate plugin. I clicked, Java started, and it ran normally. I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned, logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not enable Java globally or permanently. Accordingly, two points: 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you can, on demand. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances if you need to (and some of us do). I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle placeholder, nuttin'. SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the Java (version) is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution. Then a link called 'More Information' which takes you to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled and no longer usable. Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on? If I'm supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can turn Java back on? If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss And based on the recognition problem you're experiencing, I would completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus. Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall through Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey. I had already done the complete cleanup and re-install of the latest version, but it's not changing anything. In the Java control panel applet, I have ticked the box under 'Advanced - Default java for browsers - Mozilla Family', but as soon as SM opens, the box gets cleared again. And using the Pogo site as called out earlier in this thread, there is no puzzle-piece drawing where I can select and authorize the use of Java, no matter how I set the security level in the Java Cntrl Pnl applet. This is really getting old. Try re-installing the same version of SeaMonkey over itself. Longshot, but longshots are all you have left. OK, think I'm on the right track finally. I'm documenting below what process I've gone thru to get this far, but what it boils down to is something in the current profile which appears to cause a version reporting issue between installed Java vs how SM reads/reports this. And no, clearing cookies/cache/etc. has no effect. Java applet tick boxes aren't really having any effect, but here's what I do know: A sterile test profile doesn't have the Java issues--it all works fine. Looking at the Plugins list thru Add-on Mgr shows both the current installed Java version (7 upd 11) and the Java Deployment Toolkit (a sub-component installed as part of the JRE.) The troubled profile shows the same 2 components, but the JRE entry shows a security warning with a web link, and the web link article states Java functionality has been shut down for my own good. Makes no
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anyone else having problems signing in to their newsgroups. I am with USENET and sometimes I can log in automatically and then turn around and have to log in manually and sometimes that does not work for the first 4 or 6 times. Could it be something with SM I have checked with USENET and they have not indicated any problem and to my knowledge nothing has changed over the last 3 days. Thanks Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ref newsgroups
Lee wrote: anyone else having problems signing in to their newsgroups. I am with USENET and sometimes I can log in automatically and then turn around and have to log in manually and sometimes that does not work for the first 4 or 6 times. Could it be something with SM I have checked with USENET and they have not indicated any problem and to my knowledge nothing has changed over the last 3 days. Thanks Lee Do you mean news.us.usenet-news.net? -- Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.4 SeaMonkey Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ref newsgroups
Lee wrote: anyone else having problems signing in to their newsgroups. I am with USENET and sometimes I can log in automatically and then turn around and have to log in manually and sometimes that does not work for the first 4 or 6 times. Could it be something with SM I have checked with USENET and they have not indicated any problem and to my knowledge nothing has changed over the last 3 days. Thanks Lee Who provides your newsgroup service? Many of them do maintenance on the weekends, which can create access problems. I use eternal-september and I'm not having any problems, but I don't have to log in. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename
On 1/19/13 7:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/19/13 5:52 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 19/01/2013 17:53, Tom told the world: When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename in the URL since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as filename. Can I change this that it is like before? Well, this change in behavior was documented in bug 254139: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254139 Apparently this change has been requested for years, and Mozilla was the only major browser who did *not* do this. The reasoning is that in most cases the page title field is more descriptive than the filename -- that's particularly true in large sites with automatically-generated pages. There isn't a pref to turn it off, but Gavin Sharp made an extension for people who prefer the old way (linked from Comment #71 on the bug thread): https://github.com/gavinsharp/SaveAsFilename The SaveAsFilename extension is not compatible with SeaMonkey. It appears to be a Firefox-only extension. A version of the SaveAsFilename extension modified for SeaMonkey does install, but it does not work. With it installed and enabled, the file name is still being taken from the title element instead of the URI. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!
On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote: I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java security holes. I understand the concerns. But there's one site my wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6 Update 38. The only option available to the user is to disable it in Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out. This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java back on in SM. While I could still have Web pages use Java by selecting the Lego graphic with the Click here to activate plugin. caption, there was no way to use the Java test page at http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp to verify a correct installation of Java. I located the file blocklist.xml in my profile. I opened it in an ASCII editor (WordPad) and commented out six consecutive pluginItem/pluginItem blocks that referenced Java. I then changed the properties of blocklist.xml to be read-only. I DO NOT RECOMMEND this to others because of the risks, not only from possible Java vulnerabilities but also because it disables future blocks of other malware. Thus, I will undo this when a newer version of Java becomes available. In the meantime, however, I now have Java fully enabled for the very few Web pages with Java that I visit. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!
Rickles wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Rickles wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA. Yesterday I had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager. Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run. ... Side note: Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest version of the JAVA plugin. It is time to jump the sinking ship. The Mozilla Fire Breathing Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to rest with honors. Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride. On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright red message, Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution, followed by a link to More information, which points here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p182. Details of the block request are available here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829111. Using SM 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet, and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying I had to click here to activate plugin. I clicked, Java started, and it ran normally. I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned, logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not enable Java globally or permanently. Accordingly, two points: 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you can, on demand. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances if you need to (and some of us do). I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle placeholder, nuttin'. SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the Java (version) is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution. Then a link called 'More Information' which takes you to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled and no longer usable. Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on? If I'm supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can turn Java back on? If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss And based on the recognition problem you're experiencing, I would completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus. Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall through Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey. I had already done the complete cleanup and re-install of the latest version, but it's not changing anything. In the Java control panel applet, I have ticked the box under 'Advanced - Default java for browsers - Mozilla Family', but as soon as SM opens, the box gets cleared again. And using the Pogo site as called out earlier in this thread, there is no puzzle-piece drawing where I can select and authorize the use of Java, no matter how I set the security level in the Java Cntrl Pnl applet. This is really getting old. Try re-installing the same version of SeaMonkey over itself. Longshot, but longshots are all you have left. OK, think I'm on the right track finally. I'm documenting below what process I've gone thru to get this far, but what it boils down to is something in the current profile which appears to cause a version reporting issue between installed Java vs how SM reads/reports this. And no, clearing cookies/cache/etc. has no effect. Java applet tick boxes aren't really having any effect, but here's what I do know: A sterile test profile doesn't have the Java issues--it all works fine. Looking at the Plugins list thru Add-on Mgr shows both the current installed Java version (7 upd 11) and the Java Deployment Toolkit (a sub-component installed as part of the JRE.) The troubled profile shows the same 2 components, but the JRE entry shows a security warning with a web link, and the web link
Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!
Roger Fink wrote: I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the diagnostic tree, the more suspicious you need to be of the latest definitive conclusion. OK, folks, it's time to start pruning. Did this message really need to include 158 lines of previous messages? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Filters question...
...is there a way to set a Filter to check against future Date? i.e.; if the message Date is later than (after) today? -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM is incompatible with the new Google groups
Clicking on a link in usenet bring me there: http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8as_umsgid=50f8adad$0$8985$ba4ac...@reader.news.orange.fr where we can read in a RED bar: Les anciens Google Groupes vont bientôt disparaître, mais votre navigateur est incompatible http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=33864 avec la nouvelle version. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM is incompatible with the new Google groups
Ray_Net wrote: Clicking on a link in usenet bring me there: http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8as_umsgid=50f8adad$0$8985$ba4ac...@reader.news.orange.fr where we can read in a RED bar: Les anciens Google Groupes vont bientôt disparaître, mais votre navigateur est incompatible http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=33864 avec la nouvelle version. WFM. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!overview -- Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.4 SeaMonkey 64-bit Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM is incompatible with the new Google groups
Ray_Net wrote: Clicking on a link in usenet bring me there: http://groups.google.com/groups? safe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8as_umsgid=50f8adad$0$8985 $ba4ac...@reader.news.orange.fr where we can read in a RED bar: Les anciens Google Groupes vont bientôt disparaître, mais votre navigateur est incompatible http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=33864 avec la nouvelle version. So? Google is one of millions of web sites that only supports mainstream browsers. Did you click the link in the red bar? (the 'support' link you included above) It says: quote Supported browsers Google Apps supports the following browsers: Chrome Internet Explorer Firefox Safari /quote Does the same thing with Opera. Your beef is with Google, not SeaMonkey. http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2011/06/our-plans-to-support-modern- browsers.html If you were to mask your User Agent string, it would probably work. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
v2.15.1 is out now. EOM
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15
Ken Dixon m...@kentraco.com wrote in message news:mailman.7506.1358181740.32706.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org... I installed this client yesterday and had it working just fine. Now, however, it is deleting messages from my Inbox for no apparent reason. Having reviewed all of my settings and preferences, I'm stumped as to why, for example, opening the Drafts mailbox causes messages in the Inbox to disappear. Sometimes clicking on the message itself has the same result. I can read it once but not again. KEN DIXON Excuse me, but how was the time machine? (Your message is dated Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:42 AM ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: v2.15.1 is out now. EOM
Well, my Norton/Symantec Internet Security detected the high risk Suspicious.Cloud.7.F in the file nssckbi.dll and quarantined it. I restored the file to c:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\ but did not tell it to quit scanning for this risk. The system automatically submitted it to Symantec for evaluation. Is this an important file? I mean, by quarantining it, did Norton damage my SM installation? Should I worry? Or is this just an annoyance that I can now forget about since I've restored it? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: v2.15.1 is out now. EOM
What is new? The Release Notes are for 2.15, not 2.15.1. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: v2.15.1 is out now. EOM
David E. Ross skriver: What is new? The Release Notes are for 2.15, not 2.15.1. See the changes page for minor changes (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.15/changes). [quote]Fixes in 2.15.1 Problems involving HTTP proxy transactions have been fixed (bug list). The Unity player crashed on Mac OS X (bug 828954)[/quote]. -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
