Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread Ray_Net

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do

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Re: Since two days I cannot open a new tab in the Browser

2013-07-20 Thread A Williams

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Since two days I cannot open a new tab in the Browser going to
File,New, New Browser Tab it does not work any more!!!
When I right click a link I cannot get the option Open link in a new
Tab it just does not work!!! But the option Open link in a new window
that one works.
 From the Mail and news I cannot open a link by cliking on HTML links
What' happening there
If someone has an idea???
Best Regards
@lex


I had *exactly* that problem for a couple of hours yesterday - my 
Browser just became unuseable if you look at one of the threads above.


I use Linux, I can see that you are using Windows.

What I did was:
- Close Seamonkey completely
- Rename the profile directory
- Create one with the original name such as ft45h78z.default
- Copy the original to the ft45h78z.default

There is absolutely no reason why that should help but it worked for me. 
 I was actually planning to restore single directories/files from a 
previous backup into the new ft45h78z.default but it worked immediately. 
 ymmv!


Best of luck
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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread A Williams

NFN Smith wrote:

A Williams wrote:



Firefox (the newest level) is unaffected.  I think I am going to try
exporting my SM profile into FF until this gets resolved.


Have you tried launching Seamonkey in safe mode?

Typically, this kind of problem is related to something in your user
profile that's amiss.  Extensions are a frequent culprit, and a similar
troubleshooting approach is to disable all your extensions, and then
reenable one by one, until you find which one is causing problems.

However, sometimes it can happen that there's something else not quite
right, and it's generally some setting in your prefs.js file.  If that's
the case, your better bet would be to start over with a new user profile
in Seamonkey.

If you export your data to Firefox, you might find that you have similar
problems there.  If you do, then it's a pretty solid indication that
your problem is related to the profile, not to Seamonkey.

Smith




It is very difficult to be sure, but this could conceivably be 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883996 (that must be the 
worst bug report I have ever seen)

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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread goodwin

On 07/20/2013 02:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do



$45 for a book that hasn't been updated in 8 years ($39 for ebook)!

Guys don't think too much of themselves...
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Re: SeaMonkey/2.19 on Linux nuked all messages in InBox and ALL folders underneath

2013-07-20 Thread Michael Lueck

Daniel wrote:


Doesn't lend itself for automation, I suppose!!


Exactly... now you are seeing my point...

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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread A Williams

goodwin wrote:

On 07/20/2013 02:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do



$45 for a book that hasn't been updated in 8 years ($39 for ebook)!

Guys don't think too much of themselves...


I bought it back in the 90's.
What *is* your problem?
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Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread ss
Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last 
few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only, Chrome 
and IE all work just fine in this respect.


Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any ideas or 
suggestions?


TIA - bo1953

This Connection is Untrusted


  You have asked SeaMonkey to connect
securely to accounts.google.com, but we can't confirm that your 
connection is secure.

  Normally, when you try to connect securely,
websites will present trusted identification to prove that you are
going to the right place. However, this website's identity can't be 
verified.



  What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to
this website without problems, this error could mean that someone is
trying to impersonate the website, and you shouldn't continue.



  Technical Details
  accounts.google.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)
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Re: Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread ss

ss wrote:

Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last
few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only, Chrome
and IE all work just fine in this respect.

Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any ideas or
suggestions?

TIA - bo1953

This Connection is Untrusted


   You have asked SeaMonkey to connect
securely to accounts.google.com, but we can't confirm that your
connection is secure.
   Normally, when you try to connect securely,
websites will present trusted identification to prove that you are
going to the right place. However, this website's identity can't be
verified.


   What Should I Do?

 If you usually connect to
this website without problems, this error could mean that someone is
trying to impersonate the website, and you shouldn't continue.



   Technical Details
   accounts.google.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)



Also, I need to add, that this is happening to my banking sites and a 
few others...


Thanks again, bo1953
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Re: Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread MCBastos

Interviewed by CNN on 20/07/2013 11:38, ss told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last
few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only, Chrome
and IE all work just fine in this respect.

Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any ideas or
suggestions?

TIA - bo1953

This Connection is Untrusted


Also, I need to add, that this is happening to my banking sites and a
few others...



I would say that something got borked with the list of root certificates 
in Seamonkey...


Try uninstalling and reinstalling SM (your profile and personal data 
won't be affected by this); perhaps it will fix the issue.


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This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized 
use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.


-=-=-
... Sent from my Desktop PC. Yes, running an actual e-mail client. Wanna 
make something of it?

* Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.17 *
Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla
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Re: Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/20/13 8:04 AM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 20/07/2013 11:38, ss told the world:
 ss wrote:
 Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last
 few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only, Chrome
 and IE all work just fine in this respect.

 Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any ideas or
 suggestions?

 TIA - bo1953

 This Connection is Untrusted

 Also, I need to add, that this is happening to my banking sites and a
 few others...

 
 I would say that something got borked with the list of root certificates 
 in Seamonkey...
 
 Try uninstalling and reinstalling SM (your profile and personal data 
 won't be affected by this); perhaps it will fix the issue.
 

Since the file with root certificates resides in the profile,
reinstalling will not help.

Terminate SeaMonkey.  In the profile, delete file cert8.db.  It should
be created anew when SeaMonkey is again launched.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Concerned about someone (e.g., the government)
snooping into your E-mail?  Use PGP.
See my http://www.rossde.com/PGP/
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Re: Facebook game displays

2013-07-20 Thread Walter J.

On 7/19/2013 8:16 PM, Larry S. wrote:

Walter J. wrote:

On 7/19/2013 3:13 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

Walter J. wrote:

On 7/18/2013 8:03 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Walter J. wrote:

On 7/18/2013 12:59 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Walter J. wrote:

With Seamonkey 2.19 the screens displaying the game data have
expanded
to the point that the entire data are not displayed and must be
scrolled
to see all of it. This is very inconvenient. Is there a setting
somewhere in SM or Windows to correct this?

Windows 7, SM 2.19, browser and e-mail

Any suggestions welcome.

Walter


Not familiar with Facebook games but I suspect a font size in the
browser making the text of the game data larger than able to be
shown
without scrolling. Try hitting CTRL+0 (zero). If that doesn't fix it
try hitting CTRL+- (minus) a couple of times.



I know about the CTRL plus/minus and it will change the fonts of the
text, but not the graphics of the games. The graphics boxes have
expanded so that about 1/3 is outside of the screen thus requiring
scroll to view the entire graphic. I will do a google search and
maybe
find a forum that can help.

W.



Have you checked to see if you are zooming both text and images when
you
zoom?


I experimented some with CTRL plus/minus on version 1.17.1 and I could
change the size of text and the images. I am going to stay with the
older version for now.
w



In Preferences, you get to choose whether the ZOOM function applies to
both textimages or just text.  Sometimes an update, resets/upsets your
previous setting.

Did you check?

GW


GW,

Is that option in the browser Preferences or the mail/newsgroup
Preferences. I don't find that option either place.

W

Try this:
EditPreferencesAppearanceContentZoom only text instead of full pages
Larry S.


Larry S.
Found it. I was not going deep enough in options.

That already checked. Also checked: Resize large images to fit in 
browser window - Remember zoom levels on per-site basis


For the time being I am staying with version 1.17.1 because it is 
working for me.


W.
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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread Daniel

A Williams wrote:

goodwin wrote:

On 07/20/2013 02:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do



$45 for a book that hasn't been updated in 8 years ($39 for ebook)!

Guys don't think too much of themselves...


I bought it back in the 90's.
What *is* your problem?


Gee, I'm feeling ripped off, now!! I brought the Fourth Edition in about 
2000 :-(


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130403022815

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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread A Williams

Daniel wrote:

A Williams wrote:

goodwin wrote:

On 07/20/2013 02:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do



$45 for a book that hasn't been updated in 8 years ($39 for ebook)!

Guys don't think too much of themselves...


I bought it back in the 90's.
What *is* your problem?


Gee, I'm feeling ripped off, now!! I brought the Fourth Edition in about
2000 :-(



First Edition ;-)  Published Feb '95 and I'll have bought it a few 
months later.  Why do you feel ripped off?

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Re: Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread NO

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 20/07/2013 11:38, ss told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last
few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only, Chrome
and IE all work just fine in this respect.

Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any ideas or
suggestions?

TIA - bo1953

This Connection is Untrusted


Also, I need to add, that this is happening to my banking sites and a
few others...



I would say that something got borked with the list of root certificates
in Seamonkey...

Try uninstalling and reinstalling SM (your profile and personal data
won't be affected by this); perhaps it will fix the issue.




MC - thank you for the input, this did not work.

bo1953
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Re: Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread NO

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/20/13 8:04 AM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 20/07/2013 11:38, ss told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last
few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only, Chrome
and IE all work just fine in this respect.

Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any ideas or
suggestions?

TIA - bo1953

This Connection is Untrusted


Also, I need to add, that this is happening to my banking sites and a
few others...



I would say that something got borked with the list of root certificates
in Seamonkey...

Try uninstalling and reinstalling SM (your profile and personal data
won't be affected by this); perhaps it will fix the issue.



Since the file with root certificates resides in the profile,
reinstalling will not help.

Terminate SeaMonkey.  In the profile, delete file cert8.db.  It should
be created anew when SeaMonkey is again launched.




David,

Thank you for your advice, as stated in a later post, I deleted all 
cert8.db files and still no go.


Bo1953
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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread goodwin

On 07/20/2013 06:38 AM, A Williams wrote:

goodwin wrote:

On 07/20/2013 02:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do



$45 for a book that hasn't been updated in 8 years ($39 for ebook)!

Guys don't think too much of themselves...




If one reads all there is to see there, one would think O'Neil invented 
the internet, the web browser, and everything in between.
Barnum was correct - there is a sucker born every minute (that doesn't 
apply to your buying the book back then - that applies to $45 today).



I bought it back in the 90's.
What *is* your problem?


I don't have a problem but your communication skills do.

You posted only vague descriptions of your issues and half the original 
post was irrelevant.
The bug you cited was totally irrelevant as well and a waste of anyone's 
time that took the time to look at it.
The solution to your problem which you posted in another thread (which 
effectively did nothing) is totally different than the one you posted 
here (which was to revert to backup).


Glad you got it fixed anyway.

Try man rsync sometime...



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Re: Connection To Google Sites Issues...

2013-07-20 Thread Geoff Welsh

NO wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/20/13 8:04 AM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 20/07/2013 11:38, ss told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, I Am running Win 8 on a desktop with SM 2.19, over the last
few days, I Am unable to connect to ANY google sites in SM only,
Chrome
and IE all work just fine in this respect.

Below is the information I get when attempting to connect. Any
ideas or
suggestions?

TIA - bo1953

This Connection is Untrusted


Also, I need to add, that this is happening to my banking sites and a
few others...



I would say that something got borked with the list of root certificates
in Seamonkey...

Try uninstalling and reinstalling SM (your profile and personal data
won't be affected by this); perhaps it will fix the issue.



Since the file with root certificates resides in the profile,
reinstalling will not help.

Terminate SeaMonkey. In the profile, delete file cert8.db. It should
be created anew when SeaMonkey is again launched.




David,

Thank you for your advice, as stated in a later post, I deleted all
cert8.db files and still no go.

Bo1953


I certainly can't explain why it works, but when I have had the same 
problem, I first boot up my two other computers and go to the same site. 
 When I see that it works fine in those SM...I re-boot my Linksys router.


Voila

It's easy to try

GW
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Re: SeaMonkey/2.19 on Linux nuked all messages in InBox and ALL folders underneath

2013-07-20 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-07-17 11:00 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-17 12:14 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


The point of doing it this way is to make undo possible.


Are you assuming that is the reason, or do you have a source to cite?


Sorry, didn't realize I had strayed into academia. ;-)

I don't have a source, but it's the only theory that makes any sense.


It's important to be careful not to mislead users. A lot of criticism is 
a result of false info.



Why would a programmer or developer go to all the extra trouble of doing
it this way when it would be much simpler and easier to simply do as
Felix says? Only if there were some benefit. And the benefit I outlined
is both obvious and desirable to most users.


It could be any number of reasons that may even be a result of the time 
when the decision was made in the 90s.


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Re: Since two days I cannot open a new tab in the Browser

2013-07-20 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-07-20 4:25 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

Since two days I cannot open a new tab in the Browser going to
File,New, New Browser Tab it does not work any more!!!
When I right click a link I cannot get the option Open link in a new
Tab it just does not work!!! But the option Open link in a new window
that one works.
 From the Mail and news I cannot open a link by cliking on HTML links
What' happening there
If someone has an idea???


If you go to Help--Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled, does the problem 
still occur? If not, the cause is probably an extension.


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Re: Browser has just become unuseable

2013-07-20 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-07-20 5:09 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

goodwin wrote, On 20/07/2013 03:54:


WTF is O'Reilly?


http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007607.do


Ray, when someone sets the followup-to header to a different newsgroup, 
it means they want replies to be sent to the newsgroup in the 
followup-to header. In this case, the question in his post was 
off-topic, so he tried to move the discussion to mozilla.general.


I don't know why you chose to send your reply to this newsgroup and 
ignore his request, but please respect the rules next time and keep 
off-topic discussion out of here, thanks. :)


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Re: SeaMonkey/2.19 on Linux nuked all messages in InBox and ALL folders underneath

2013-07-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-17 11:00 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-17 12:14 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


The point of doing it this way is to make undo possible.


Are you assuming that is the reason, or do you have a source to cite?


Sorry, didn't realize I had strayed into academia. ;-)

I don't have a source, but it's the only theory that makes any sense.


It's important to be careful not to mislead users. A lot of criticism is
a result of false info.


Why would a programmer or developer go to all the extra trouble of doing
it this way when it would be much simpler and easier to simply do as
Felix says? Only if there were some benefit. And the benefit I outlined
is both obvious and desirable to most users.


It could be any number of reasons that may even be a result of the time
when the decision was made in the 90s.


If you have an alternate hypothesis, I'd be happy to hear it.

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Re: Modifying POP Server Settings

2013-07-20 Thread Frog

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Frog wrote:


I was just informed by my internet provider that I must make the
following changes to my computer:

ServerCurrent SettingNew SettingSSL Enabled
POP3 Serverincoming verizon.netpop.verizon.netYES
SMTP Serveroutgoing verizon.netsmtp.verizon.net  Yes

Port
995
465

I need some guidance on where and how to make these changes.

SeaMonkey 2.19
Windows 7

Note: All of my SeaMonkey files (messages, bookmarks, addresses, etc.)
are stored in a folder on my Data(E) drive titled SeaMonkey Profile.

I know that this task should be easy but I really don't know where to
start with this task.

Thanks for any help you can send my way on this subject.


For the first row of changes (POP3), do Edit | Mail  Newsgroup Account
Settings and click on Server Settings under the name of the affected
account. If you don't see Server Settings, click the little triangle
to the left of the account name to expand it.

For the second row of changes (SMTP), do the same thing, but scroll to
the very bottom of the list of accounts, where you'll see Outgoing
Server (SMTP). Click that, click the Verizon server to select it, and
click the Edit button.

Of course, there should be periods, not spaces, after incoming and
outgoing. But it doesn't matter because you're replacing those
settings anyway.

Thanks for your help Paul.  I did as you suggested and everything is 
running normally.  I know I learned this procedure sometime in the past 
but old age is working on my mind these days.


Frog
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