Re: email
jgcur...@frontiernet.net wrote: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:58:04 PM UTC-7, jgcu...@frontiernet.net wrote: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:30:32 AM UTC-7, Ed Mullen wrote: curl wrote: I get my email through frontiernet.net. Recently, frontier joined with Yahoo mail. When this happened, I wasn't able to receive or send email from SeaMonkey. I called frontier and they had me change my password. Then when I went to get my mail at SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey asked for my new password. I entered my new password and then SeaMonkey worked fine for a couple of days in that I could receive and send emails. Now, I can receive emails but SeaMonkey won't let me send email, asking me again for a new password, but won't let me enter a new password. When I click on enter new password it just comes back to the same enter new password message. When I talked with frontier, they said they didn't support SeaMonkey and that I needed to ask SeaMonkey for help. If I switch over to frontier/Yahoo mail, I have to log into frontier, just to see if I have email messages. SeaMonkey has spoiled me, I hope you can help. My guess is that your mail account is still set up to use Frontier's SMTP server and not Yahoo's. Check your settings as others have replied and report back here. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ When in doubt assume that, once again, you've outsmarted yourself. Daniel, Hawker and Ed, (Apologies, I don't know if I am posting correctly) Thank you so much for your responses. I did go into Password Manager and it showed me my passwords for my mailbox and SMTP. And the password for SMTP was not correct but there was not the question to answer yes for the correct password. I called Frontier and asked if they could help me change the password and over a lengthy period of time, the tech did change it and now I can send email through SeaMonkey again. Thank you again for your help and suggestions and the tip to use Thunderbird advise as well. Curl Glad to hear you got it sorted out. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ It's lonely at the top, but you eat better. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert
andré wrote: Philip Taylor a écrit : Ed Mullen wrote: Erness Wild wrote : Thanks for the private emails, replies noted. What? You are participating in a public forum. You asked for help. Someone replied out of context. Yet you come here and say thanks? Post the solution HERE so that others may benefit from it. Geez. The replies were PRIVATE. Mr Wild not only has no obligation to publish the content of private e-mails, it would be an abuse of privilege so to do. Cf. the earlier (also OT) thread initiated by Mr Gallagher on the same theme and my responses to the same. Philip Taylor There is a problem with the configuration of the list. Initially the poster address was in the list sender field, with no other related field, so someone replying had to paste the name of the list in place of the poster address to do a normal reply to the list. Then for and copy to fields were added, which allowed using send-to-all to reply to all related fields. By default, the reply still goes to the poster (privately) only, which is not correct. Instead of the for field, the list address should have been added in a reply-to field, so that by default one replies only to the list. Which is the usual expected default for a forum mailing list. I highly doubt that most posters expected that their replies would only go to the last poster, and not to the list. Which is another reason for me to wish that the list be either killed or at least un-linked from the newsgroups. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Short screens
Geoff Welsh wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Snip I wish I had been paying more attention! I'm not certain that the problem is new to 2.22; it's possible it appeared back in 2.21. Another complicating factor is that I sometimes wait a few weeks before allowing SM to update. One extension that's critical to me, Lightning (which lets me communicate with colleagues who use the Outlook calendar), NEVER is ready when a SM update is released. I think I understand why, and it's not something that SM can fix, but it sure wrecks my day-to-day user experience... I first noticed it after after 2.13.1. It's been there at least that long. but you're on Mac, Rufus, so, apparently, it's different for Windows. Actually I'm a bit unclear on that, given what I've been reading of late. I think more Win users use the Default Theme and it doesn't sound like it's been a problem there. I myself had originally remarked that this was a Mac only problem, but given that people on both platforms are now observing the problem, and even pointed out to me one dialog Id missed it in just because of the way I use SM, I have to think that if the problem is with the Theme itself it was probably introduced to everyone at the same time/point. It's just that more people are looking now. I think... Rufus, as the result is the same (sub=windows being drawn short) is now the same on Mac and Windows, I would expect the cause is the same, or at least very similar. Jens asked me to file a bug for Windows incarnation, so I did, and, it would appear a solution is not far off. Maybe a solution for Mac is just a little bit further off!! ;-) according to the bug report, they are fixing the spell check dialog only GW Damn!! Damn!! Damn!! I had hoped that the problem would be fixed (and, therefore, probably apply to and fix the Mac problem as well) rather than a work around being put into place!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....
Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Where might I d/l the Win x64_86 nightly's from?? In general you can download nightlies from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/ (the trunk ones are below directories containing comm-central). On that level you can find directories relating to years (e.g. 2012), and below it for months (e.g. 10). Latest trunk nightlies are always below latest-comm-central-trunk, but be advised that this directory is not cleaned up regularly so it also lists some old builds. Unfortunately, right now recent nightly builds are only available for Windows. Builds for Linux have been missing for several weeks now due to some unfulfilled Python dependencies on the build machines. Forgot what the Mac issue was. HTH Jens Thanks, Jens, and because I'm on my normal Linux tonight, I'm only being offered Linux downloads. Must remember to boot into Windows tomorrow and then download O.K., been to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.18b1-candidates/build1/ but no x86_64 builds or even WOW64 builds showing. Jens, should I be looking elsewhere, maybe ftp?? Or should I just pull my head in?? ;-) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....
Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by remembering the last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left corner of the screen. Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by such window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing position, it would forever be not a problem. And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up there would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being spell-checked. I disagree. My visual focus needs to be on the spell-check window: That's where the info is that I need to deal with, not in the compose window. If I need to refer to the compose window I am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is (doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window. The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that the spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40 I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the second half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2 Phil How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a drop-dialog on the Mac version? I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell Check drop on the Mac version. Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is with a Drop-down or window?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
WaltS wrote: On 11/27/2013 09:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Pololo wrote: On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits In SeaMonkey, View-Apply Theme shows ...?? GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.2 is a complete theme. [GNOMErunner/GTK Revived :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/gnomerunnergtk-revived/) This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer versions. Oh!! O.K., thanks Walt, I thought Pololo was just giving his OS/DE -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Short screens
On 28/11/2013 11:06, Rufus wrote: ...typical, I guess. But I'd agree that opening a Win bug here is probably the right thing to do, though the spot fix doesn't really address what causes this to be seen elsewhere - I would think there is a relation. Somewhere... I think there's something more to this whole problem given that the implementation between Mac and PC are different - a drop dialog vs window - in this particular case of the Spell Check, and given that there isn't a problem with the Spell Check drop in the Mac version that I've seen. But there is a general interface render problem - on both platforms. That's really what needs addressing. As I said earlier, I'm not on a Mac. Regardless a screenshot of the Max OS X problem would help clarify matters a smidgen. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!
azed13 wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Snip That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally. It is sporadic, about 1/4 of the time. See the thread SeaMonkey Shutdown (started 25 Nov 2013) in this newsgroup. Thanks David: I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or code wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on that thread to see if anything else pops up. azed13 O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install, you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this file would have been erased. The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed (including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows Find File or Folder looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer (making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders), go to that location and delete parent.lock. Report back. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in different browser
Charani wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:05:02 +0530, regz91 wrote: Use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/ Thanks. Mmmm, Not available for SeaMonkey 2.16 it says when opened in SeaMonkey. I run 2.16. Works with 2.21 and 2.22 it says when opened in my other browser. Guess it's bye bye SeaMonkey. Shame it's been good. Charani What was my other browser?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?
Mort wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Mort wrote: Since updating to the newest S.M., I cannot e-mail pictures from Picasa. When I try, the S.M. home page comes up, instead of the compose page. All the settings are correct in Picasa. That's likely the MAPI regression introduced in SM 2.22. This might be fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is released and receives some testing. HTH Jens Hi Jens, Thanks for your reply. How can I go about getting the most recent older version of S/M. back, without losing any of my data? I have literally thousands of edited and corrected photos in Picasa on that P.C., and not being able to e-mail them is a big problem. Thanks again, Mort Linder --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Mort, on a different take, when you start SeaMonkey, have you set it up to just open the browser or is the e-mail screen opened as well?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert
Philip Taylor wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BTW, why would you set followup to /dev/null? Yet another way of gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to what we do? Because not only is this current digression completely unrelated to the focus of this list (i.e., Seamonkey), it is also completely unrelated to anything Mozilla-specific at all. Since I give my e-mail in clear in every message, you are perfectly at liberty to continue the debate off-list if you so wish, as per the guidance from the list moderator : On 03/11/2013 at 20:01, Chris Ilias wrote (in part, and in response to another message from you) : If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you can do: * You can reply to the poster via private email Philip Taylor Hey, Philip, did you notice in the part of Chris' response you quoted post an off-topic message?? So Chris was referring to OT stuff not proper responses! So those that posted responses direct to the OP, Ernest, if the responses were on topic, should have posted to the list/group. (Would have posted this about 90mins ago, but didn't notice the /dev/nul reply address!! Even after having read about it!!) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
On 28/11/13 01:40, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Peter Nieman wrote, On 11/27/2013 09:21 PM: I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for some time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons (small icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown menu instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still cares about Modern? pn Modern Toolbar customize Text gives a text-button with the default-action, located next to the toggle-button grippy, which will show the menu. (Modern is being maintained even better than the Default Theme). Yes, but I don't want Text, I want Icons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?
Daniel wrote: Mort wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Mort wrote: Since updating to the newest S.M., I cannot e-mail pictures from Picasa. When I try, the S.M. home page comes up, instead of the compose page. All the settings are correct in Picasa. That's likely the MAPI regression introduced in SM 2.22. This might be fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is released and receives some testing. HTH Jens Hi Jens, Thanks for your reply. How can I go about getting the most recent older version of S/M. back, without losing any of my data? I have literally thousands of edited and corrected photos in Picasa on that P.C., and not being able to e-mail them is a big problem. Thanks again, Mort Linder --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Mort, on a different take, when you start SeaMonkey, have you set it up to just open the browser or is the e-mail screen opened as well?? Hi Daniel, When SeaMonkey starts, it opens just the browser. If I need the e-mail screen, then I click onto the mail icon. My problem is that heretofore I could e-mail pix from Picasa with no problems,as clicking on that Picasa e-mail icon resulted in a compose screen appearing with the pic as an attachment. Now, with the newest S.M., I do not get that compose screen, only the S.M. home page. On my older P.C. with the superseded S.M., it works well, but that P.C. has very few of my pix. I really need to fix my newer P.C. to once more send pix. Thanks . Mort --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
NFN Smith wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? I mostly use the Default one, although I have both Modern and Kilome installed. After reading through this thread, I did a bit of playing with the other two, to see if I could remember why I switched back to Default. In the process, I discovered that with the Modern theme, there's not the issue with line spacing that appeared with the release of Seamonkey 2.22. On the other hand, I'm still seeing the near-truncated display of the dialog window for the spell-checker. Smith Perhaps I should have mentioned that I patched all the themes I added to SeaMonkey to correct the half-missing button problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: plugin finder for Flash - failed
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/27/2013 10:35 AM, Rick Merrill wrote: And the manual install did not succeed either. What do I check to solve this little problem? If you have an older version of Flash installed, use the Windows Add/Remove capability to delete it. Then try again to install the new version. If you are looking for an up-to-date Flash plugin, you can get one here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in different browser
Charani wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:05:02 +0530, regz91 wrote: Use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/ Thanks. Mmmm, Not available for SeaMonkey 2.16 it says when opened in SeaMonkey. I run 2.16. Works with 2.21 and 2.22 it says when opened in my other browser. Guess it's bye bye SeaMonkey. Shame it's been good. Charani Why not use SeaMonkey as a browser? It is as good as Firefox, and better if you prefer its interface. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Short screens
Philip Chee wrote: On 28/11/2013 11:06, Rufus wrote: ...typical, I guess. But I'd agree that opening a Win bug here is probably the right thing to do, though the spot fix doesn't really address what causes this to be seen elsewhere - I would think there is a relation. Somewhere... I think there's something more to this whole problem given that the implementation between Mac and PC are different - a drop dialog vs window - in this particular case of the Spell Check, and given that there isn't a problem with the Spell Check drop in the Mac version that I've seen. But there is a general interface render problem - on both platforms. That's really what needs addressing. As I said earlier, I'm not on a Mac. Regardless a screenshot of the Max OS X problem would help clarify matters a smidgen. Phil That's my point - there *isn't* a Mac problem in this specific instance; but the implementation is also different. ...the difference between a drop-dialog and a dialog presented in a discrete window window should be obvious, anyway. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....
Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by remembering the last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left corner of the screen. Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by such window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing position, it would forever be not a problem. And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up there would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being spell-checked. I disagree. My visual focus needs to be on the spell-check window: That's where the info is that I need to deal with, not in the compose window. If I need to refer to the compose window I am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is (doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window. The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that the spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40 I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the second half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2 Phil How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a drop-dialog on the Mac version? I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell Check drop on the Mac version. Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is with a Drop-down or window?? I don't regularly use the Download Manager, but I took a quick look and don't see any particular issue there...are others seeing a problem? One thing I can add though, is that when I encounter the random Master Password dialog and it comes up in a window like the Download Progress dialog vise a drop, is is still drawn short. I'm not sure how this is all implemented, but the error appears to stick with the drop/window it's encountered in no matter how it's presented. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Short screens
Daniel wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Snip I wish I had been paying more attention! I'm not certain that the problem is new to 2.22; it's possible it appeared back in 2.21. Another complicating factor is that I sometimes wait a few weeks before allowing SM to update. One extension that's critical to me, Lightning (which lets me communicate with colleagues who use the Outlook calendar), NEVER is ready when a SM update is released. I think I understand why, and it's not something that SM can fix, but it sure wrecks my day-to-day user experience... I first noticed it after after 2.13.1. It's been there at least that long. but you're on Mac, Rufus, so, apparently, it's different for Windows. Actually I'm a bit unclear on that, given what I've been reading of late. I think more Win users use the Default Theme and it doesn't sound like it's been a problem there. I myself had originally remarked that this was a Mac only problem, but given that people on both platforms are now observing the problem, and even pointed out to me one dialog Id missed it in just because of the way I use SM, I have to think that if the problem is with the Theme itself it was probably introduced to everyone at the same time/point. It's just that more people are looking now. I think... Rufus, as the result is the same (sub=windows being drawn short) is now the same on Mac and Windows, I would expect the cause is the same, or at least very similar. Jens asked me to file a bug for Windows incarnation, so I did, and, it would appear a solution is not far off. Maybe a solution for Mac is just a little bit further off!! ;-) according to the bug report, they are fixing the spell check dialog only GW Damn!! Damn!! Damn!! I had hoped that the problem would be fixed (and, therefore, probably apply to and fix the Mac problem as well) rather than a work around being put into place!! ...as I said...typical. Also - I'm roaming right now and off my home net, so my usual usnet server is not available to me and I'm getting random drop dialogs for input of the server name and password from time to time - those are being drawn short too; bottom edge clipped off, same-same. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Short screens...Chee
Philip Chee wrote: On 28/11/2013 11:06, Rufus wrote: ...typical, I guess. But I'd agree that opening a Win bug here is probably the right thing to do, though the spot fix doesn't really address what causes this to be seen elsewhere - I would think there is a relation. Somewhere... I think there's something more to this whole problem given that the implementation between Mac and PC are different - a drop dialog vs window - in this particular case of the Spell Check, and given that there isn't a problem with the Spell Check drop in the Mac version that I've seen. But there is a general interface render problem - on both platforms. That's really what needs addressing. As I said earlier, I'm not on a Mac. Regardless a screenshot of the Max OS X problem would help clarify matters a smidgen. Phil Phil, http://www.geoffwelsh.com/SM2.0.14.jpg vs http://www.geoffwelsh.com/SM2.22.1.jpg shows the clipped-dialog-box-problem in OS X obviously, that's just one dialog box example, but Rufus has a list of many different dialog boxes that clip on Mac OS X. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New query, send to mail recipient option
azed13 wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: azed13 wrote: Has a workaround been found for the failure of Seamonkey Mail Client to open when send to mail recipient is selected for images, etc. 2.22.1 still opens a new browser page not mail. Unfortunately there is no workaround (other than manually attaching files from disk). It might be fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is released and receives some testing. HTH Jens Thanks Jens: How safe is it to install an older release and must I get rid of all 2.22.1 or will an older version install over it? I've never had a profile problem and would not like to do something that might create one for me. Waiting for the new 2.23 is really holding things up. Like another poster, I use Picasa a lot because it automatically converts images to a size that the mail servers have no problems with. azed13 on Mac you just choose an old version from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/ and move the 2.22.1 version of SeaMonkey.app to the trash. All the profile stuff is untouched. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Ant wrote: On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many many years ago? Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is the best IMO. after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern, over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7 GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Geoff Welsh wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many many years ago? Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is the best IMO. after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern, over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7 GW Pretty much the same in my case...wasn't the SM Modern theme or something much like it once the default anyway? That's what I'd always used. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Rufus wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many many years ago? Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is the best IMO. after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern, over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7 GW Pretty much the same in my case...wasn't the SM Modern theme or something much like it once the default anyway? That's what I'd always used. or maybe classic vs modern. IDR and I'm not gonna un-box my machine with Mozilla 1.0 (or whatever it was) to find outlol I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden days but that's not just a SM thing. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New query, send to mail recipient option
Interviewed by CNN on 28/11/2013 04:10, azed13 told the world: How safe is it to install an older release and must I get rid of all 2.22.1 or will an older version install over it? I've never had a profile problem and would not like to do something that might create one for me. Waiting for the new 2.23 is really holding things up. Like another poster, I use Picasa a lot because it automatically converts images to a size that the mail servers have no problems with. It's pretty safe, I don't think the profile format has undergone any important changes recently. In fact, the latest major change that I recall was when we moved from 2.0 to 2.1. But I advise you to uninstall 2.22.1 first (don't worry, your data and profile won't be touched) and only then reinstall the older version -- while the profile is not a problem, you might face some problems if some of the program files get replaced and others aren't. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my superior attunement to the Force. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.22 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Geoff Welsh wrote: Rufus wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many many years ago? Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is the best IMO. after thinking about it, overnight, waaayyy back when I chose Modern, over Default, it was basically cuz it looked like N6 instead of N4.7 GW Pretty much the same in my case...wasn't the SM Modern theme or something much like it once the default anyway? That's what I'd always used. or maybe classic vs modern. IDR and I'm not gonna un-box my machine with Mozilla 1.0 (or whatever it was) to find outlol ...I think you're right...but sometimes it can be fun to pull out the old stuff! I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden days but that's not just a SM thing. GW I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target. Another odd thing I've noticed is with the Profile Manager - if it's invoked at start up the dialog graphics match the current look, but if I invoke Switch Profile from within the Browser the dialog graphic looks like the old-school NS presentation...and (go figure) there are problems lingering that are solved by not using the Profile Manager. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Rufus wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden days but that's not just a SM thing. GW I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target. slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and have no problem GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in different browser
Interviewed by CNN on 27/11/2013 17:03, Charani told the world: Mmmm, Not available for SeaMonkey 2.16 it says when opened in SeaMonkey. I run 2.16. Works with 2.21 and 2.22 it says when opened in my other browser. Guess it's bye bye SeaMonkey. Shame it's been good. I don't get it. If it works with the most recent versions of Seamonkey, what's stopping you from using it? Just update SM. Anyway, this add-on has existed for a long time now. Even if the author dropped support for 2.16 and older versions, there should be some past version which is compatible with it. In fact, I suspect that this version should run find in 2.16 -- it's not THAT old, after all. The author probably just chose to not list older versions as compatible to cut down on support. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my fax machine. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.22 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....
Daniel wrote: O.K., been to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.18b1-candidates/build1/ but no x86_64 builds or even WOW64 builds showing. First of all, the directory you cited is wrong. That's for old SM 2.18 Beta 1 builds. The correct directory for current SM trunk nightlies is: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ Second, x86_64 builds are only provided for Linux. But as I already said, there are currently no recent Linux nightly builds available whatsoever. Third, AFAIK WOW64 refers to the layer that provides the ability to run 32-bit software on 64-Windows. On 64-bit Windows versions you can just run normal 32-bit SM versions. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New query, send to mail recipient option
azed13 wrote: How safe is it to install an older release and must I get rid of all 2.22.1 or will an older version install over it? Concerning your profile integrity, reverting back to an older (but recent) SM version like 2.21 should be safe. However, the 2.22.1 release specifically fixed security issues. So from that perspective it is not advised to downgrade. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in different browser
On 11/27/2013 02:03 PM, Charani wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:05:02 +0530, regz91 wrote: Use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/ Thanks. Mmmm, Not available for SeaMonkey 2.16 it says when opened in SeaMonkey. I run 2.16. Works with 2.21 and 2.22 it says when opened in my other browser. Guess it's bye bye SeaMonkey. Shame it's been good. Charani And you obviously didn't click the View other versions link. [Open With :: Versions :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/versions/?page=1#version-5.3.1) Works with Firefox 19.0 and later, SeaMonkey 2.16 and later Is there some reason for not updating to SM 2.22.1? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?
Mort wrote: How can I go about getting the most recent older version of S/M. back, without losing any of my data? I have literally thousands of edited and corrected photos in Picasa on that P.C., and not being able to e-mail them is a big problem. As mentioned elsewhere, it is not advised to downgrade from a security point of view. But otherwise it should be as simple as getting an older version from our homepage. However I wonder whether you could (for the time being) work around your problem by using alternate methods of file transfer. Did you try to drag drop images to the attachments area of SM compose windows? You can launch such windows even from SM browser windows by simply pressing Ctrl+M. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....
On 11/28/13 6:23 PM +0900, Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 26/11/2013 05:55, Rufus wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Frankly, it seems the issue could be resolved simply by remembering the last window position instead of pegging the window in the upper left corner of the screen. Thus, if, as I usually do when annoyed by such window positioning, I move the window to a more pleasing position, it would forever be not a problem. And, yes, I get that some dev decided that shoving the window up there would keep it out of the way of the compose window that is being spell-checked. I disagree. My visual focus needs to be on the spell-check window: That's where the info is that I need to deal with, not in the compose window. If I need to refer to the compose window I am smart enough to be able to move the spell-check window if it is (doubtful in my config) obscuring the compose window. The truth is rather more mundane. Back in 2002 someone noticed that the spellcheck sub-window was always stuck in the upper left corner of the screen. So he fixed it. Or rather he attempted to fix it but didn't check if his fix worked or not. See line 47 of the folllowing link: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/editor/ui/dialogs/content/EdSpellCheck.xulrev=1.63mark=47#40 I'm in the process of fixing this as part of Bug 942548. See the second half of Bug 942548 Comment #2 for more details. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=942548#c2 Phil How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a drop-dialog on the Mac version? I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell Check drop on the Mac version. Given that we're talking about Mac v Windows and Drop=down v window, it would be interesting to find out if the Mac Download Manager problem is with a Drop-down or window and if the Windows Spell Checker problem is with a Drop-down or window?? What is the problem with the Download Manager on OS X? I have seen no issue with it. FWIW, the Download Manager is a window, not a drop-down dialogue box. -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Trane Francks wrote: On 11/27/13 11:26 PM +0900, WaltS wrote: On 11/27/2013 09:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Pololo wrote: On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote: What theme do you use? Default? Modern? Or some add-on? GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits In SeaMonkey, View-Apply Theme shows ...?? GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.2 is a complete theme. [GNOMErunner/GTK Revived :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/gnomerunnergtk-revived/) This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer versions. That looks pretty nice. The Ambiance business would plug right into Ubuntu 12 and look completely at home. If I was to use a complete theme it would probably be Kilome. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Halden Zimmermann - restoration classic cars
http://classiccars.com/ Love classic cars, hope they never become a lost art. On Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:15:26 PM UTC-6, S wrote: On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:13:05 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: rattlesnaket...@gmail.com wrote: looking at 1969 GTO for rebuild, thoughts about getting mostly in good shape for low $$ Yeap, try another newsgroup!! 5 least affordable housing markets (and most affordable ones, too) Looking to buy a home? Here are five housing markets where the average buyer can't easily afford to buy a home -- and five markets where they can, according to the latest National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo Housing Opportunity Index. San Francisco NEXT • Rank: #1 least affordable • Median home price: $779,000 • Median income: $101,200 • % of homes sold that are affordable*: 16% • http://about.me/halden.zimmermann • Even though the average San Francisco-area resident earns a six-figure salary, median home prices are so expensive that only a small percentage can afford to buy a home there. That makes San Fran the least affordable major housing market in the nation, according to National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo Housing Opportunity Indhttp://rattlesnaketime.wordpress.com/ex. http://www.foxbusiness.com/index.html Blame part of it on tech riches. All of those IPOs (Twitter, Facebook) have generated a lot of wealth for company insiders and these tech millionaires are bidding up the prices on the most coveted single-family homes. https://www.vizify.com/halden-zimmermann Related: How much house can you afford? Yet, something else is at play. Strict underwriting standards are making it tougher for first-time and low-income buyers to get a mortgage, said NAHB's chief economist David Crowe. http://money.cnn.com/ http://www.slideshare.net/haldenzimmermann That means fewer starter homes are being sold compared to the larger, more pricey ones, pushing overall median home prices higher, he said. http://money.cnn.com/gallery/real_estate/2013/11/14/affordable-housing-markets/index.html?iid=HP_Highlight http://haldenzimmerman.tumblr.com/ http://vimeo.com/haldenzimmermann -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.20 Build identifier: 20130709211044 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?
Jens Hatlak wrote: Mort wrote: How can I go about getting the most recent older version of S/M. back, without losing any of my data? I have literally thousands of edited and corrected photos in Picasa on that P.C., and not being able to e-mail them is a big problem. As mentioned elsewhere, it is not advised to downgrade from a security point of view. But otherwise it should be as simple as getting an older version from our homepage. However I wonder whether you could (for the time being) work around your problem by using alternate methods of file transfer. Did you try to drag drop images to the attachments area of SM compose windows? You can launch such windows even from SM browser windows by simply pressing Ctrl+M. HTH Jens Hi Jens, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, dragging and dropping an image does not work. I get an international no sign,and the image does not drop into the attachment area of compose. It is very frustrating, as before I updated to the newest S.M., it worked beautifully. I have thousands of images in Picasa, laboriously edited one at a time, and dread the thought of losing them, or of having to re-edit them on another PC. Thanks again. Mort --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What theme do you use?
Geoff Welsh wrote: Rufus wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: I do miss the windows themselves having a (drawn) border like the olden days but that's not just a SM thing. GW I miss the dialog buttons being big enough to target. slow your mouse/trackpad down. I view text only for the buttons and have no problem GW ...and screw up how everything else that works just fine on my machine works? No thanks...I'd like real buttons back. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!
Daniel wrote: azed13 wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Snip That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally. It is sporadic, about 1/4 of the time. See the thread SeaMonkey Shutdown (started 25 Nov 2013) in this newsgroup. Thanks David: I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or code wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on that thread to see if anything else pops up. azed13 O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install, you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this file would have been erased. The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed (including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows Find File or Folder looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer (making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders), go to that location and delete parent.lock. Report back. Daniel: I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey. BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service pack 1. I did a search anyway and found 43 files with some variation of parent buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually. Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install file is located. azed13 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
