Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:49:

Ray_Net wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:03:


Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste
works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine.


Have you tested using my explanations ? I am able to reproduce at will
... same with hawker.


I've already answered clearly in the negative several times, I won't 
repeat myself again. I CANNOT reproduce this no matter how slavishly I 
follow your instructions. The same goes for the new set below.



Try this:

I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting
"forward" ...
And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail.
In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works.



Unable to reproduce. Everything works fine here.

There must be some crucial difference in our installation (add-ons?) 
or settings.


I have AdBlock+, french dictionary and french language  i think that 
those "extensions" is not the responsible.

For the setting .. who knows ?...
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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Ray_Net]

hawker wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:33:

On 9/23/2014 6:03 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58:

hawker wrote:


On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

hawker wrote:


Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.

I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other
e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two
e-mails at
once that must go to the same folks.


What exactly is a "replay"? Give step-by-step instructions so 
someone

else can try it.

Or do you mean "rePLY"? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1,
regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain
text.

Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] 
the

message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if I
try
to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?


Nope.



Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say "Reply" not sure how that
happened.
Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear.

1) Reply to two different messages.
2) Select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" and the message
body
below.
3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X.
4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing.

If I only select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" or the
message body but not both it works as expected.


Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message.
Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1.

Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps
substituting "past" for "paste."


Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely
this bug ?


Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste
works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine.



This "bug" is interesting.
Ray - If I try your steps it works fine, however with my steps it does 
not work. Furthermore this bug just started at 2.26.1 and did not with 
whatever I was using before (probably 2.24 or around there). It sounds 
like your bug goes back further.


So somehow this breaks for some users under some conditions only.



Perhaps this bug depends on SM parameters/options ... not everybody have 
the same options.

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Re: SeaMonkey, Version 2.29, Mac OSX

[Blaine Owens]

In View, Show/Hide, how do I get SeaMonkey to retain my tabs when I reload my
yahoo homepage. I mistakenly chose the wrong option which I think was never.
Thank you... Blaine
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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 78

[Tim Applegarth]

Paul and Daniel

Thanks for your reply and the information on using this list.  I will continue 
to muddle through all this until I "get the hang of it".
In the meantime, I received some instruction from someone about the issue I am 
having with Seamonkey.  I tried all the suggestions but they didn't work. 
After installing the version 2.29 update, some of the sites I try to access 
will not load a full page.  One of my financial accounts is inaccessible 
because the only thing that shows on the page that loads, is the data bar for 
my user name, but nothing else.  There is no button or other links of any kind 
to execute the user name action, so I can't continue with entering my password. 
 I can access the site using Firefox and other browsers but Seamonkey has been 
rendered somewhat inoperable.  How do I fix this?  I have tried uninstalling 
Seamonkey and then installing an earlier version, but the same thing still 
happens.  
Any suggestions?
Tim

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Re: Images not appearing in SM2.29

[Smiles]

Smiles wrote:

Smiles wrote:

GerardJan wrote:

Live wrote:

Images inserted or attached to a message in
AnnexCafe newsgroup are not appearing
in SM2.29. Uninstalled it and now I'm using
SM2.28 where I see the images.
Is it a bug in 2.29?



Everything works fine for me, I run the 64bit version of SM 2.29

sincerely,


i had the same problem got a pop up asking for program to open
clicked something then i get an endless number of blank tabs opening

just recreated a new profile going back to2.26

if i use old profile going back to 2001 under a reinstall same issue
happens
when i reinstall to a fresh install of  2.29 and use old profile i get a 
pop up to choose an application to open a link, when message is selected 
default is SeaMonkey or choose new

what file do i delete to stop this when i transfer to new install
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Re: Auto Update

[WaltS48]

On 09/23/2014 07:27 PM, stan wrote:

EE wrote:

stan wrote:

How can I suppress Auto Update for SM?

The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26

-Stan


I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them.  The
address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get
email addresses, and open a compose window from there.  The bookmark
backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can
import them.

To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and
change these settings:
app.update.auto -> false
app.update.enabled -> false
app.update.silent -> false


Well I cant logo into Tools > Password Manager it crashes
Also it crashes if I want to use this forum.

To me that is BAD.

-Stan





What does Tools > Password Manager have to do with auto updates?



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Re: Auto Update

[stan]

EE wrote:

stan wrote:

How can I suppress Auto Update for SM?

The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26

-Stan


I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them.  The
address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get
email addresses, and open a compose window from there.  The bookmark
backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can
import them.

To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and
change these settings:
app.update.auto -> false
app.update.enabled -> false
app.update.silent -> false


Well I cant logo into Tools > Password Manager it crashes
Also it crashes if I want to use this forum.

To me that is BAD.

-Stan


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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:03:


Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste
works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine.


Have you tested using my explanations ? I am able to reproduce at will
... same with hawker.


I've already answered clearly in the negative several times, I won't 
repeat myself again. I CANNOT reproduce this no matter how slavishly I 
follow your instructions. The same goes for the new set below.



Try this:

I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting
"forward" ...
And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail.
In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works.



Unable to reproduce. Everything works fine here.

There must be some crucial difference in our installation (add-ons?) or 
settings.


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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Ray_Net]

EE wrote, On 23/09/2014 22:42:

hawker wrote:

On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote:

hawker wrote:

Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.


I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting 
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other 
e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two 
e-mails at

once that must go to the same folks.

Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the
message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if I try
to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?

Thanx
  -H
[I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting 
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other 
e-mail

I am responding to.]

I just pasted something from your message.  It works, but I had to
highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not
before.  If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only
the highlighted item gets quoted.




odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P.
IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text
editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail.
Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an
order that I open things in.
Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not
both together.


I am using plain text for messages, not HTML.  I do not see why that 
should make a big difference, however.


Try this when you have an existing HTML mail and "ask me what to do" as 
an option in "send format" options.
Normally you should be able to reproduce. When i do it the quote headers 
ar viewed with surrounded by red-dots  it's an html table.
I think that's the key point to reproduce ... the clipboard of the 
selection in the forwarded mail is different than the clipboard of the 
selection in notepad after psting this text in notepad first.


I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting 
"forward" ...

And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail.
In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works.

I will try to CTRL-V here in this "reply" in newsgroups to see if it 
works..


NO I cannot insert the copied text here,
So i will do CTRL-V in notepad, then in notepad "Select All" then CTRL-C 
and CTRL-V here:


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Infos Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:37:20 +0200
From: Gusciglio 
To: Gusciglio 

Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz
Chers Amies et Amis randonneurs,


YES IT WORKS, but i am obliged to pass thru notepad to be able to copy 
it here

Same for inserting i a new mail.
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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:03:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58:

hawker wrote:


On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

hawker wrote:


Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.

I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other
e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two
e-mails at
once that must go to the same folks.


What exactly is a "replay"? Give step-by-step instructions so someone
else can try it.

Or do you mean "rePLY"? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1,
regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain
text.


Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the
message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if 
I try

to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?


Nope.



Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say "Reply" not sure how that 
happened.

Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear.

1) Reply to two different messages.
2) Select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" and the message 
body

below.
3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X.
4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing.

If I only select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" or the
message body but not both it works as expected.


Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message.
Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1.

Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps
substituting "past" for "paste."


Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely
this bug ?


Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste 
works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine.


Have you tested using my explanations ? I am able to reproduce at will 
... same with hawker.


Try this:


I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting 
"forward" ...

And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail.
In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works.

I will try to CTRL-V here in this "reply" in newsgroups to see if it 
works..


NO I cannot insert the copied text here,
So i will do CTRL-V in notepad, then in notepad "Select All" then CTRL-C 
and CTRL-V here:


* Forwarded Message  **
**Subject: Infos Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz **
**Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:37:20 +0200 **
**From: Gusciglio **
**To: Gusciglio **

**Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz **
**Chers Amies et Amis randonneurs, **
***

YES IT WORKS, but i am obliged to pass thru notepad to be able to copy 
it here

Same for inserting i a new mail.
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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[hawker]

On 9/23/2014 6:03 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58:

hawker wrote:


On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

hawker wrote:


Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.

I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other
e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two
e-mails at
once that must go to the same folks.


What exactly is a "replay"? Give step-by-step instructions so someone
else can try it.

Or do you mean "rePLY"? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1,
regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain
text.


Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the
message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if I
try
to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?


Nope.



Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say "Reply" not sure how that
happened.
Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear.

1) Reply to two different messages.
2) Select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" and the message
body
below.
3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X.
4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing.

If I only select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" or the
message body but not both it works as expected.


Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message.
Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1.

Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps
substituting "past" for "paste."


Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely
this bug ?


Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste
works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine.



This "bug" is interesting.
Ray - If I try your steps it works fine, however with my steps it does 
not work. Furthermore this bug just started at 2.26.1 and did not with 
whatever I was using before (probably 2.24 or around there). It sounds 
like your bug goes back further.


So somehow this breaks for some users under some conditions only.



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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58:

hawker wrote:


On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

hawker wrote:


Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.

I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other
e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two
e-mails at
once that must go to the same folks.


What exactly is a "replay"? Give step-by-step instructions so someone
else can try it.

Or do you mean "rePLY"? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1,
regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain
text.


Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the
message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if I try
to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?


Nope.



Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say "Reply" not sure how that happened.
Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear.

1) Reply to two different messages.
2) Select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" and the message body
below.
3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X.
4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing.

If I only select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" or the
message body but not both it works as expected.


Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message.
Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1.

Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps
substituting "past" for "paste."


Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely
this bug ?


Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste 
works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine.


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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[EE]

hawker wrote:

On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote:

hawker wrote:

Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.


I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at
once that must go to the same folks.

Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the
message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if I try
to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?

Thanx
  -H

[I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail
I am responding to.]

I just pasted something from your message.  It works, but I had to
highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not
before.  If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only
the highlighted item gets quoted.




odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P.
IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text
editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail.
Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an
order that I open things in.
Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not
both together.


I am using plain text for messages, not HTML.  I do not see why that 
should make a big difference, however.


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Re: Problems

[EE]

Bonnell Frost wrote:

I have been having a couple problems with recent Seamonkey releases.
First one:  Missing sort for messages.  There used to be a sort option,
which allowed sorting by date of message or by character in subject.
Right now,
 my messages are sorted by subject and I can't find any way to
sort them otherwise.  Sort option is still available for folders and
files in Windows 7,
 but not with Seamonkey.  My Fedora 20 still is sorted by date,
but no option available there either.  I really would like to get my
messages sorted by date.

Second: With present versions of SM 2.26 and 2.29, there is only one
column on the message page.  Previously there used to be a narrow column
along the
 right-hand edge with available folders so the a reader could
access particular folder for contents.  It's still there with Fedora
20.  It's possible to access
 using search, but a list wold be nice.

I'm a retiree with little outside contact, even though I have had a lot
of experience.


Sorting is still available.  From the menu, choose View > Sort By, and 
pick the criteria you want to use.  I have messages sorted in order 
received, descending order, threaded.


In both the folder pane and the list pane, I see a little icon at the 
right edge which allows me to choose which columns to display.  What 
theme are you using?  That icon should be there.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.29 doesn't start

[Ray_Net]

Bill Davidsen wrote, On 22/09/2014 23:35:

Ray_Net wrote:

Francois LE COAT wrote, On 17/09/2014 22:46:

Hi,

Ray_Net writes:

Francois LE COAT wrote, On 12/09/2014 14:35:

I have installed the French language pack from the following URL :

 




with the 2.26 version of SeaMonkey, if I remember well.


Have you installed
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.29/langpack/seamonkey-2.29.fr.langpack.xpi 




with the 2.29 version of SeaMonkey ?


I'm sorry ... I couldn't have installed this version of language pack,
because SeaMonkey 2.29 is not even starting. There's only a box, with
an error message, as I reported in this thread. I don't have access
to SeaMonkey 2.29 ... Do you understand ? It is updated, and it fails.

As far as I understood, French localized version of SeaMonkey 2.29
is only working for Microsoft Windows users. It doesn't work for
me neither under OS X 10.6.8, nor Kubuntu 14.04 GNU/Linux.

SeaMonkey 2.29 is a bad update, that I have to cancel back to 2.26.

I hope you're understanding ? There's a problem with the "parser" :-(

Regards,


Ok, ok - i never do upgrade nor downgrade.
I remove the version i want to quit removing all extensions before.
then i install the version i want to use and install extensions(of 
the same

version of the new SM).


That's a good way to do it, how do you install the extensions, since 
the binary won't start? Is there an installer out of band?


I never encounter the case when the binary won't start - perhaps because 
the binary i installed is done with all extensions/plugin absents.

The .xpi i install after is done by the Browser: - File - Open File.
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Re: Auto Update

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:

stan wrote:

How can I suppress Auto Update for SM?

The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26

-Stan


I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them.  The
address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get
email addresses, and open a compose window from there.  The bookmark
backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can
import them.

To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and
change these settings:
app.update.auto -> false
app.update.enabled -> false
app.update.silent -> false


Or you can do it the safe/easy way through the user interface:

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation
...
SeaMonkey:
[x] Automatically check for updates ( ) daily (•) weekly
   [ ] Automatically download and install the update

If you uncheck the second box, you'll get nagged once a week but SM 
won't install anything without permission. If you uncheck both boxes, SM 
will never check and never nag (and obviously, never install anything).


You can still check manually via Help | Check for Updates.

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Re: e-mail copy paste issue

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58:

hawker wrote:


On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

hawker wrote:


Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I
updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29.

I often do a "replay" to an email just so I can get the formatting 
of a
message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other 
e-mail
I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two 
e-mails at

once that must go to the same folks.


What exactly is a "replay"? Give step-by-step instructions so someone
else can try it.

Or do you mean "rePLY"? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1,
regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain
text.


Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the
message body or the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" but if I try
to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message.

Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug?


Nope.



Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say "Reply" not sure how that happened.
Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear.

1) Reply to two different messages.
2) Select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" and the message body
below.
3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X.
4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing.

If I only select the "On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote:" or the
message body but not both it works as expected.


Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message.
Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1.

Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps 
substituting "past" for "paste."


Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely 
this bug ?

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Re: Auto Update

[EE]

stan wrote:

How can I suppress Auto Update for SM?

The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26

-Stan


I found only 2 bugs, and I found workarounds for both of them.  The 
address book is properly sorted in the sidebar, so I can use it to get 
email addresses, and open a compose window from there.  The bookmark 
backups will not restore, but if one exports them as HTML, one can 
import them.


To stop automatic updates, what I did was go into about:config and 
change these settings:

app.update.auto -> false
app.update.enabled -> false
app.update.silent -> false
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Auto Update

[stan]

How can I suppress Auto Update for SM?

The SM2.29 is too buggy so I must keep reinstalling SM2.26

-Stan
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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 73

[Daniel]

On 23/09/14 22:39, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 23/09/14 17:28, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tim Applegarth wrote:


For Daniel from Tim

It seems to me that there are some people, (like myself a computer
novice), using this list, who don't understand how to keep the
postings from becoming mingled so that we can't determine who is
replying to whom, or how to keep the topics separate from each
other. In other words, very few seem to know what's going on. There
needs to be some organization somehow. Are you a moderator?  If not,
will they help?


The short answer is to look at the options on the View menu.

"Sort by: Threaded" will group messages in the same thread
(conversation) together. You can also choose Ascending/Descending
according to whether you want the oldest messages at the top or bottom.

"Threads: With Unread" will filter out threads that contain only
messages already marked as read. Since there are over 87,000 messages in
this newsgroup, you don't want to sift through all that every time you
visit. With this setting, I generally find fewer than 20 new messages
when I check in the morning; the rest are hidden.

The attribution line ("So-and-so wrote:") at the top tells you who is
writing, and there should be nested attribution lines under that if he's
quoting previous posters.

It's not so complicated, and it's not true that "very few seem to know
what's going on." Only newbies and rare posters find it confusing. Stick
around and you'll get the hang of it.


Paul, did you note that the OP was posting using MSOE??


No, it never occurred to me that was even possible. Why would an OE user
be posting here?


Beats me!! Maybe he's seen the error of his ways!! :-)

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.29 Build identifier: 20140829003846

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140408191805

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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 73

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

On 23/09/14 17:28, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tim Applegarth wrote:


For Daniel from Tim

It seems to me that there are some people, (like myself a computer
novice), using this list, who don't understand how to keep the
postings from becoming mingled so that we can't determine who is
replying to whom, or how to keep the topics separate from each
other. In other words, very few seem to know what's going on. There
needs to be some organization somehow. Are you a moderator?  If not,
will they help?


The short answer is to look at the options on the View menu.

"Sort by: Threaded" will group messages in the same thread
(conversation) together. You can also choose Ascending/Descending
according to whether you want the oldest messages at the top or bottom.

"Threads: With Unread" will filter out threads that contain only
messages already marked as read. Since there are over 87,000 messages in
this newsgroup, you don't want to sift through all that every time you
visit. With this setting, I generally find fewer than 20 new messages
when I check in the morning; the rest are hidden.

The attribution line ("So-and-so wrote:") at the top tells you who is
writing, and there should be nested attribution lines under that if he's
quoting previous posters.

It's not so complicated, and it's not true that "very few seem to know
what's going on." Only newbies and rare posters find it confusing. Stick
around and you'll get the hang of it.


Paul, did you note that the OP was posting using MSOE??


No, it never occurred to me that was even possible. Why would an OE user 
be posting here?


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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 73

[Daniel]

On 23/09/14 17:28, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tim Applegarth wrote:


For Daniel from Tim

It seems to me that there are some people, (like myself a computer
novice), using this list, who don't understand how to keep the
postings from becoming mingled so that we can't determine who is
replying to whom, or how to keep the topics separate from each
other. In other words, very few seem to know what's going on. There
needs to be some organization somehow. Are you a moderator?  If not,
will they help?


The short answer is to look at the options on the View menu.

"Sort by: Threaded" will group messages in the same thread
(conversation) together. You can also choose Ascending/Descending
according to whether you want the oldest messages at the top or bottom.

"Threads: With Unread" will filter out threads that contain only
messages already marked as read. Since there are over 87,000 messages in
this newsgroup, you don't want to sift through all that every time you
visit. With this setting, I generally find fewer than 20 new messages
when I check in the morning; the rest are hidden.

The attribution line ("So-and-so wrote:") at the top tells you who is
writing, and there should be nested attribution lines under that if he's
quoting previous posters.

It's not so complicated, and it's not true that "very few seem to know
what's going on." Only newbies and rare posters find it confusing. Stick
around and you'll get the hang of it.


Paul, did you note that the OP was posting using MSOE??

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SeaMonkey/2.29 Build identifier: 20140829003846

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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 73

[Daniel]

On 23/09/14 16:03, Tim Applegarth wrote:

For Daniel from Tim

It seems to me that there are some people, (like myself a computer novice), 
using this list, who don't understand how to keep the postings from becoming 
mingled so that we can't determine who is replying to whom, or how to keep the 
topics separate from each other.
In other words, very few seem to know what's going on.
There needs to be some organization somehow.
Are you a moderator?  If not, will they help?

Tim



Tim, there are several ways that you can access these mozilla newsgroups.

The way you have currently selected is to receive all the posts to the 
news group as an e-mail. This is known as using the lists.


Rather than receiving everything as one e-mail, you could try using 
Groups-Google and subscribe to the group mozilla.support.seamonkey. 
There you can select which posts you want to read, and ignore the rest. 
And, if you feel so incline, you can reply to any posts made.


The third method is to set yourself up a news account (I've got no idea 
how to do that in MS Outlook Express V 6.0) connecting to 
news.mozilla.org and then subscribing to the mozilla.support.seamonkey. 
Again, this way you could select which posts you read and/or reply to!


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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 73

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Tim Applegarth wrote:


For Daniel from Tim

It seems to me that there are some people, (like myself a computer
novice), using this list, who don't understand how to keep the
postings from becoming mingled so that we can't determine who is
replying to whom, or how to keep the topics separate from each
other. In other words, very few seem to know what's going on. There
needs to be some organization somehow. Are you a moderator?  If not,
will they help?


The short answer is to look at the options on the View menu.

"Sort by: Threaded" will group messages in the same thread 
(conversation) together. You can also choose Ascending/Descending 
according to whether you want the oldest messages at the top or bottom.


"Threads: With Unread" will filter out threads that contain only 
messages already marked as read. Since there are over 87,000 messages in 
this newsgroup, you don't want to sift through all that every time you 
visit. With this setting, I generally find fewer than 20 new messages 
when I check in the morning; the rest are hidden.


The attribution line ("So-and-so wrote:") at the top tells you who is 
writing, and there should be nested attribution lines under that if he's 
quoting previous posters.


It's not so complicated, and it's not true that "very few seem to know 
what's going on." Only newbies and rare posters find it confusing. Stick 
around and you'll get the hang of it.


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Re: MozBackup

[Allen]

NoOp wrote:

On 09/03/2014 10:00 AM, W3BNR wrote:

On 9/3/2014 12:13 PM NoOp submitted the following:

On 08/31/2014 03:33 AM, Ed wrote:

On 8/30/2014 8:56 PM Mike C submitted the following:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

I had a very good experience with MozBackup last week.  My laptop got
very "sick" and sensing impending doom, I had the presence of mind to
run MozBackup and get the backup file off onto a thumb drive before the
Windows 7 OS became so corrupted that a restore from the original disks
became necessary (to a new hard drive). After 186 windows patches, I was
ready to install SeaMonkey.  Then I ran MozBackup and restored the
profile and all of my settings and emails.  They only other thing I had
to do was manually install my favorite extensions.  Good job MozBackup!

Allen


The tool hasn't been updated in 2+ years. Haven't used it for eons.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I also swear by MozBackup!
I'm using MozBackup-1.5.1-EN
Get it here: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/

It don't believe it needs updating.


I;ve been using MozBackup 1.5.2b from the same place.
(In addition to backing up all data files daily and making a complete
system image monthly - Worked in data processing/large scale computers
for over 35 years.  Hard to explain loosing months of man-power due to
not backing up data to management)



With all that experience, why not just use rsync/grsync instead?



Well, I guess I could say because I don't want to.


Shrug... I guess that's as good as reason as any. For me it's just as
easy to copy & paste the entire profile over to a backup
partition/drive/device as it is to run MozBackup. Or just set up to use
rsync or grsync as a scheduled service. Note that you can use both on
Windows as well as linux.



Besides Windows for making the system image, I use PureSync which has
all the options I need and at times the sync option of PowerDesk.
It all depends on the what, how, and why I'm performing the backup.

I guess you could also ask why I waste any of this time when I could
install an external RAID drive or two.  Problem solved.  No operator
intervention required.


No operator intervention involved either using rsync once set up as a
scheduled service/task.

Now I'm kind of sorry I started this thread.  I don't like image backups 
because they tend to restore my systems to their previous state-- That 
is, will all the accumulated registry garbage, accidently deleted dlls, 
failed patches, programs that didn't uninstall completely/correctly, 
etc.  Instead, I choose to back up critical files, data, pictures, and 
such to a network server and periodically to DVD.  This includes the 
MozBackup file. I also take good care of original installation media. 
Sometimes a clean install can be a blessing, it runs sweet! (possibly 
also due to my new SSD!)  To those who want to do things differently, I 
say you just go for it.

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