Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

2015-10-11 Thread Daniel

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/09/2015 07:01 AM, Daniel wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:45:06 +1100, Daniel 
wrote:


On 8/10/2015 5:42 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!


Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Maybe here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I thought nightly's were pre-alpha!




I thought Nightlies were alpha, aurora is beta, beta is release
candidate and release usually ticks off a portion of users.

Hmm! What would I know?? I thought aurora was SeaMonkey/Mozilla speak 
for Alpha!


--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130502201647

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130403022815

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Re: Fullscreen is disabled for YOUTUBE

2015-10-11 Thread Ray_Net

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/10/2015 00:54:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 10/10/2015 17:36:

Ray_Net wrote:
Could someone remember me what i can do to be able to view YouTube 
video in FullScreen ?


My pc is under Windows 7 pro SP1
My UA is (the default for SM 2.38): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101

Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


There was a discussion here about this starting on Sep 5.
Search for "Enabling full screen for youtube videos".


My retention policy is 20 days, so they are left ...


Yea, I was hoping it would be longer.
Try this and see if it works:

On 9/5/2015 8:33 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> To enable full screen for youtube videos type about:cofig in the 
address

> bar browser window.
>
> In the widow that appears look for the search box and type "full"
>
> Change these two items from false to true:
>
> full-screen-api.content-only
>
> and
>
> full-screen-api.enabled
>
> Once these two items are changed from false to true you can click on 
the

> full screen icon of youtube HTML 5 videos and enter full screen. There
> is no need to force youtube to use flash instead of html 5 video 
format.

>
> To exit full screen simply use the ESC key on your keyboard.
>


Should I remove my just installed plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/

And take your two "config" modifications ?

What is the BEST action ?


I notice (now that the above plugin is installed) that:
full-screen-api.enabled is set to true
full-screen-api.content-only is not present

and those are default to true:
full-screen-api.allow-trusted-requests-only
full-screen-api.pointer-lock.enabled
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Re: Fullscreen is disabled for YOUTUBE

2015-10-11 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/10/2015 00:54:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 10/10/2015 17:36:

Ray_Net wrote:

Could someone remember me what i can do to be able to view YouTube video in 
FullScreen ?

My pc is under Windows 7 pro SP1
My UA is (the default for SM 2.38): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) 
Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


There was a discussion here about this starting on Sep 5.
Search for "Enabling full screen for youtube videos".


My retention policy is 20 days, so they are left ...


Yea, I was hoping it would be longer.
Try this and see if it works:

On 9/5/2015 8:33 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> To enable full screen for youtube videos type about:cofig in the address
> bar browser window.
>
> In the widow that appears look for the search box and type "full"
>
> Change these two items from false to true:
>
> full-screen-api.content-only
>
> and
>
> full-screen-api.enabled
>
> Once these two items are changed from false to true you can click on the
> full screen icon of youtube HTML 5 videos and enter full screen. There
> is no need to force youtube to use flash instead of html 5 video format.
>
> To exit full screen simply use the ESC key on your keyboard.
>


Should I remove my just installed plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/

And take your two "config" modifications ?

What is the BEST action ?


I notice (now that the above plugin is installed) that:
full-screen-api.enabled is set to true
full-screen-api.content-only is not present

and those are default to true:
full-screen-api.allow-trusted-requests-only
full-screen-api.pointer-lock.enabled


Leave the plug in as is.  If it works, then keep it.

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Scripts Running

2015-10-11 Thread David E. Ross
Is there a way to see what scripts are currently running in SeaMonkey?

Certain Web pages never seem to stop loading even through they appear
complete.  Scrolling and other actions on those pages are quite slow.
The Stop button on the tool bar is enabled.  If I select the Stop
button, actions on the page are then quite quick.

I suspect that some kind of scripts are running but then stopped by the
Stop button.  I would like to confirm that conjecture.

-- 
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The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia.
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update fails

2015-10-11 Thread stan pierce
Update is failing with message that:  something is trying to trick SM 
into accepting an insecure update.

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Re: update fails

2015-10-11 Thread Rick & Sharon

stan pierce wrote:

Update is failing with message that:  something is trying to trick SM
into accepting an insecure update.
You're not the first to see this.  It's a certificate issue between 
older and current versions.  To install the newer version:


Click on the SeaMonkey icon at the top right of your mail or browser 
window, and download the v2.38 whole version install you'll see on the 
web page which opens.  Simply right-click on that file once it's 
downloaded, and click 'Run as administrator'.  It will install on top of 
your current install and pick up your existing settings.


Once you've done this, newer future updates should install as normal 
from the 'Check for updates' menu options.

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How to make a "sort" in Bookmarks folder stay permanent ?

2015-10-11 Thread DoctorBill
I want to sort the bookmarks in my Bookmarks 
Toolbar\Most Visited.


I click on "Bookmarks Toolbar\Most Visited" and 
then click on View\Sort| a--Z   and the bookmarks 
get sorted.


However, when I leave Bookmarks Manager and then 
go back, the bookmarks are back to the unsorted 
state !


How can I make the sort stay Permanent ?

DoctorBill
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Using Mozbackup 1.5.1 for Seamonkey 2.38 on a Win 10 PC

2015-10-11 Thread hg...@roadrunner.com
Mozbackup worked perfectly with Win 7, but now that I've upgraded to Win 10, 
Mozbackup gives me an error message after I try to back up  that the backup I 
created is not valid. Is there an update for Mozbackup that will help it work 
with Win 10 or is there a workaround? Thanks
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Re: Support For NPAPI Plugins Ends Next Year

2015-10-11 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-10 17:55, David E. Ross wrote:

Mozilla is ending support for NPAPI plugins by the end on 2016.

While the number of plugins I have is not as large as the number of
extensions, I consder every one of them important.  They are:
QuickTime
Adobe Acrobat (actually Adobe Reader, not the writer)
RealPlayer
Java

I also have Flash, but that apparently will be an exception to the
removal of NPAPI support.

Does anyone know how these plugins will be affected, specifically in
SeaMonkey?  What are the plugin developers doing about this?


I'm not a SeaMonkey developer but I also wish SM would not get rid of 
plug-in support. The recent trend of all the major browsers extracting 
features in the name of security is troubling. Most ordinary users 
probably don't care about plug-ins but in a company a plug-in is often 
the only way to implement communication between a web application and 
custom software or hardware. For example, I know of a company that has a 
web application which uses a fiscal printer to print receipts - the 
communication is achieved with a java applet. Good luck doing that in html5!


I suppose it's still too early to know what SM devs will do about it - 
but if leaving the plug-in code does not mean any extra work or other 
problems then I think it would be easy to persuade them to leave it as 
it is :). However, I'm afraid even this will not be a good long term 
solution because when all major browsers get rid of NPAPI then no 
company will create plug-ins just for a small browser minority. But I 
hope I will be proved wrong!


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Re: Fullscreen is disabled for YOUTUBE

2015-10-11 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-11 08:04, Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/10/2015 00:54:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 10/10/2015 17:36:

Ray_Net wrote:

Could someone remember me what i can do to be able to view YouTube
video in FullScreen ?

My pc is under Windows 7 pro SP1
My UA is (the default for SM 2.38): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


There was a discussion here about this starting on Sep 5.
Search for "Enabling full screen for youtube videos".


My retention policy is 20 days, so they are left ...


Yea, I was hoping it would be longer.
Try this and see if it works:

On 9/5/2015 8:33 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> To enable full screen for youtube videos type about:cofig in the
address
> bar browser window.
>
> In the widow that appears look for the search box and type "full"
>
> Change these two items from false to true:
>
> full-screen-api.content-only
>
> and
>
> full-screen-api.enabled
>
> Once these two items are changed from false to true you can click on
the
> full screen icon of youtube HTML 5 videos and enter full screen. There
> is no need to force youtube to use flash instead of html 5 video
format.
>
> To exit full screen simply use the ESC key on your keyboard.
>


Should I remove my just installed plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/


And take your two "config" modifications ?

What is the BEST action ?


The config modification alone will give you full screen support, however 
SeaMonkey will display a small navigation bar at the top of the screen, 
which can be distracting for videos. The extension does hide the bar.

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Which version will support Windows 10

2015-10-11 Thread stan pierce
I just downloaded 2.38. Is this the version that will support Windows 
10? Stan.

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Re: Using Mozbackup 1.5.1 for Seamonkey 2.38 on a Win 10 PC

2015-10-11 Thread S Slicer

hg...@roadrunner.com wrote:

Mozbackup worked perfectly with Win 7, but now that I've upgraded to Win 10, 
Mozbackup gives me an error message after I try to back up  that the backup I 
created is not valid. Is there an update for Mozbackup that will help it work 
with Win 10 or is there a workaround? Thanks



You could try right-clicking on the .exe for that program, and try 
"troubleshoot compatibility".


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Re: Problems viewing messages

2015-10-11 Thread Norman Fuchs

Norman Fuchs wrote:

Norman Fuchs wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Norman Fuchs wrote:


As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so
I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I
said, I have NO


Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:.


There is an option to view Headers as all or normal.  No matter which
one I check, I get no header.


Ah, sorry.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that, but I've pruned everything
else so someone who reads this can focus on the main issue and perhaps
help you.


Thanks for your help.  I hope someone can help me.  I can use
Thunderbird to read my mail & access my attachments, but I'd rather use
SM.  Another piece of information that might help:  if I print a message
in SM, I get the headers, but they don't appear when viewing the message.

I have found an old, old bug that might be relevant, but I'm not
tech-savvy enough to know what to do:

Bug 106461 - header pane disappears in three-pane window (caused by
corrupt abook.mab)


I am reposting this plea, since I have not been able to solve my 
problem, and I am still optimistic that someone out there can help.  In 
short, I believe, my problem is that I see NO header pane for any of my 
messages, in any of my accounts.

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Re: Problems viewing messages

2015-10-11 Thread Mason83
On 12/10/2015 06:14, Norman Fuchs wrote:
> Norman Fuchs wrote:
>> Norman Fuchs wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Norman Fuchs wrote:

> As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so
> I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I
> said, I have NO
>
>> Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:.
>
> There is an option to view Headers as all or normal.  No matter which
> one I check, I get no header.

 Ah, sorry.

 Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that, but I've pruned everything
 else so someone who reads this can focus on the main issue and perhaps
 help you.

>>> Thanks for your help.  I hope someone can help me.  I can use
>>> Thunderbird to read my mail & access my attachments, but I'd rather use
>>> SM.  Another piece of information that might help:  if I print a message
>>> in SM, I get the headers, but they don't appear when viewing the message.
>> I have found an old, old bug that might be relevant, but I'm not
>> tech-savvy enough to know what to do:
>>
>> Bug 106461 - header pane disappears in three-pane window (caused by
>> corrupt abook.mab)
>>
>>
> I am reposting this plea, since I have not been able to solve my 
> problem, and I am still optimistic that someone out there can help.  In 
> short, I believe, my problem is that I see NO header pane for any of my 
> messages, in any of my accounts.

I would try a fresh new profile, and in safe mode.

If you still see the problem, I would reinstall.
If the problem is gone, it is either an extension or something
common to your profiles.

Regards.

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