Re: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently

2016-02-16 Thread Danny Kile

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

If I send mail to my wife's netscape.net email accounts I get the
following
response back.

When sent from my PC using SM Mail Client I get this error message:

"Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

  her-email-n...@netscape.net

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
server for
the recipient domain netscape.net by mailin-02.mx.aol.com.
[64.12.88.164].

The error that the other server returned was:
550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected:
netscape.net"


When sent from my PC using WEB-Mail I get this error message:


":
152.163.0.68 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 : Recipient
address
rejected: netscape.net
Giving up on 152.163.0.68."


It is as though Netscape has killed her email account or changed
something
to keep her from receiving mail. This account has worked for the last 8
years. I myself have a Netscape.net e-mail account and I do not have this
problem. I would greatly appreciate the master minds of this forum to
chime
in and give me some advice. Thank you in advance!

Thank you,   Danny




I can't give you a definitive answer, but a 550 error is a refusal to
relay mail. That leads me to think that something has changed either
with the Netscape account, or the ISP. Or AOL. (people still use that?).



I suspect that the problem is with AOL, because like I have said, I have 
an Netscape.net account and I can send mail to that account without 
problems. On another note I can send mail to her-email-n...@aol.com and 
her-email-n...@aim.com and then get through. It's as if the netscape.net 
is not getting forwarded to aim.com or AOL.com. I do not know how to 
resolve this though. And as far as still using AOL, it was a Netscape 
account long before it became partners with AOL.

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Onno Ekker
Op 14-2-2016 om 16:01 schreef Keith Thompson:
> My ISP (WOW!) has just changed mailing securities and now I have to use
> a password on the smtp.  I cannot get the entry to take when trying to
> send.  I am using SM 2.39.  I have gone through a number of trials. 
> Their requirement is that I use no connection Security, Port 587, and
> Password.  I have set the smtp to these conditions, but the password
> will not enter.  I have cleared the password file of these and then
> tried the entry again.  It did not take, but the password was now in the
> password file. For some reason, it appears that the password file cannot
> communicate with the smtp.  What am I missing here? The mail sending was
> working fine until WOW changed their requirements. Wow, of course, wants
> me to change to Windows Mail and IE.  SM security is exactly the reason
> that I avoided MS Products.
> 
> Keith Thompson

I haven't seen this suggestion in this thread yet, but maybe I missed it:

Try creating an SMTP logfile. That file might actually contain some info
as to why the sending doesn't work, so we don't have to guess at the cause.

See  for more
information on how to setup logging. Remember to unset the variables
once you're done collecting the logsā€¦

Onno
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Re: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently

2016-02-16 Thread Bruce Hagen

Danny Kile wrote:

If I send mail to my wife's netscape.net email accounts I get the following
response back.

When sent from my PC using SM Mail Client I get this error message:

"Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

  her-email-n...@netscape.net

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for
the recipient domain netscape.net by mailin-02.mx.aol.com. [64.12.88.164].

The error that the other server returned was:
550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected:
netscape.net"


When sent from my PC using WEB-Mail I get this error message:


":
152.163.0.68 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 : Recipient address
rejected: netscape.net
Giving up on 152.163.0.68."


It is as though Netscape has killed her email account or changed something
to keep her from receiving mail. This account has worked for the last 8
years. I myself have a Netscape.net e-mail account and I do not have this
problem. I would greatly appreciate the master minds of this forum to chime
in and give me some advice. Thank you in advance!

Thank you,   Danny




I can't give you a definitive answer, but a 550 error is a refusal to relay 
mail. That leads me to think that something has changed either with the 
Netscape account, or the ISP. Or AOL. (people still use that?).


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Re: send problem with e-mail

2016-02-16 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

CenturyLink Customer wrote:

Have not been able to get centurytel to fix my not being able to
sendhave to go to web mail to do so...I know others in the area
with same proble and all are on seamonkeyreal PITA...any help
here...I have checked and rechecked all setting...? Thank you for
any help GUY


Has it worked before and recently stopped working, or are you trying to 
set it up for the first time?


Either way, check that you're using the correct settings - see 
. 
If it was working before, they may have changed since you first set it up.


Going by the information at that link, and looking at some of the others 
at 
, 
in SeaMonkey I think you probably need to:

- Go to Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.
- Select "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" at the bottom of the left-hand list.
- In the right-hand panel, select the relevant server.
- Click "Edit"
- Make sure you have:
  - Server Name: smtp.centurylink.net
  - Port: 587
  - Connection security: STARTTLS (I think...)
  - Authentication method: Normal password
  - User Name: Your full email address

If you've got several SMTP servers listed in SeaMonkey, make sure the 
CenturyTel one is the one being used; it should probably be set as the 
default. Each email account can be set to use a server other than the 
default, so also click your email account in the left-hand list, and 
make sure "Outgoing Server" (bottom of the right-hand panel) is set to 
"Use Default Server" (if CenturyTel is your default) or your CenturyTel 
server.


Mark.

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:

I tried their settings on Windows Mail 2012 and had the same failure
that I have with SM, in that it keeps asking for the password when
sending.


So that should be proof enough that your problem is not in SeaMonkey but
either with your account credentials or their server.


Since the problem still exists using the application Wow support (i.e. 
Windows Mail), hopefully their support line will be at least slightly 
more helpful. Once they've got it working for you in Windows Mail, you 
should be able to use similar settings in SeaMonkey - if it's not clear 
how the differently names settings correspond, someone here will 
probably be able to help with that.


It would be good if you could post back with the solution anyway once 
it's sorted, in case other Wow customers hit similar problems using 
SeaMonkey or Thunderbird!


Mark.

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Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently

2016-02-16 Thread Danny Kile
If I send mail to my wife's netscape.net email accounts I get the 
following response back.


When sent from my PC using SM Mail Client I get this error message:

"Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 her-email-n...@netscape.net

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server 
for the recipient domain netscape.net by mailin-02.mx.aol.com. 
[64.12.88.164].


The error that the other server returned was:
550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: 
netscape.net"



When sent from my PC using WEB-Mail I get this error message:


":
152.163.0.68 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 : Recipient 
address rejected: netscape.net

Giving up on 152.163.0.68."


It is as though Netscape has killed her email account or changed 
something to keep her from receiving mail. This account has worked for 
the last 8 years. I myself have a Netscape.net e-mail account and I do 
not have this problem. I would greatly appreciate the master minds of 
this forum to chime in and give me some advice. Thank you in advance!


Thank you,   Danny


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Problem with Saved Search folders

2016-02-16 Thread NFN Smith
I'm in the process of rebuilding a Seamonkey profile, and having 
problems with saving search folders, in the mail client.


I'm running Seamonkey 2.39, and all my mail accounts are POP.

When I copied my mail stores into the appropriate locations in the 
profile, my mail-handling rules haven't done well. I have a lot of rules 
that move mail from my inbox to folders, and for those rules, I've had 
to review the rules, to reestablish the correct target folder.  That's 
not a huge problem, just an annoyance, of having to do that.


However, I make a use of a handful of saved searches, that allow for 
identification of specific groups of messages.


In particular, I keep a saved search in my Inbox that shows me most of 
my unread message traffic, and which folders those messages are in. I'm 
fine with re-creating and saving the rule, but that's where I have problems.


When I go into the search dialog, I have no problems with setting my 
search criteria, but when I click on "Save As Search folder", the 
ensuing dialog doesn't much for me.  I can navigate to the folder that I 
want to save the search in, but when I select the folder I want, the 
folder isn't displayed has having been selected. There's also no 
response from the Choose button, there's no search criteria displayed, 
and the OK button is also unresponsive.


Any idea of how to clear this one?

Smith
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Re: USAToday videos won't play? (SOLVED)

2016-02-16 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Candidate builds for 2.40 are up on archive.mozilla.org. They are as good as 
the 
real deal just not uploaded to the right location and obviously missing the 
Data 
Manager fixes. Even the unsigned Windows build is ok because it's identical to 
the 
signed one. No signing for Seamonkey right now:)

Tree is on 2.41 so I no longer build 2.40 but i didn't see any big changes 
between 
them. Gave my private builds to two friends who are happy with it but they do 
not 
use the Data or Cookie Manager

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:24:56 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

>>Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>
>>> I am on 2.42 already. I didn't fix anything in the menu but
>>> everything under Tools -> Cookie Manager works for me. There also
>>> weren't any fixes in the last months in this component. Do you see
>>> any errors in the Error Console when you try to change cookie
>>> settings using the menu?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>I'm on 2.39, but the behavior has been consistent for over a year: I go 
>>to a site, I want to change the cookie policy for that site, so I make a 
>>selection from the Tools | Cookie Manager menu, and nothing happens. No 
>>error message, no noise, no complaint of any kind; SM simply ignores the 
>>selection and continues as before with the previous selection.
>>
>>The only way around it is to go into the chrome version of the Cookie 
>>Manager and change the policy there, or else tell SM to forget about 
>>this domain (which is an unnecessarily cumbersome and counterintuitive 
>>process, BTW). Having done that, I can go to the page in question and 
>>set a new policy from the menu (SM will honor a new setting only if 
>>there is no old setting).
>>
>>FWIW, I did find a solution to the USAToday site: Tell SM to forget the 
>>cookie policy for usatoday.com, allowing it to revert to my default 
>>policy (first-party session cookies only), whereupon the site set some 
>>20 cookies and started playing the videos. I guess the other people who 
>>could play them had more lenient cookie policies, and the one who 
>>couldn't was also blocking cookies.
>>
>>-- 
>>War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>>--
>>Paul B. Gallagher
>>


 Regards
 Frank-Rainer Grahl


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Re: send problem with e-mail

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

On 02/16/16 12:56 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:31:24 -0500 (EST), CenturyLink Customer
 wrote:


Have not been able to get centurytel to fix my not being able to sendhave 
to go to web mail to do so...I know others in the area with same proble and all 
are on seamonkeyreal PITA...any help here...I have checked and rechecked 
all setting...? Thank you for any help GUY


What version of Seamonkey? 32bit? 64bit? Can you try with 32bit 2.41
if you're not already running it:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/

I downloaded the 32bit version of 2.41 and ran it.  Same situation.  Realizing 
that the problem is not with SM, but either my computer or hardware (router). 
 Investigating that part now.  More later.

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

On 02/16/16 12:56 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:




Yes, have tried both.  I will comment that I had removed all passwords
from the password manager and when signing in to retrieve my mail,
entered my standard password for the pop.  It accepted it and retrieved
the mail just fine.  It is apparent now, that there is something
affecting the smtp connection.  Normally, this would be the port, but I
have tried the old 25, the new 587 and another that I ran across in one
of the blogs.  It was in the 400's, but I don't recall the exact value.
It didn't work either.


Well reference this might give a clue as to where to focus on to debug this.



How as another possibility just encountered with a friend where Gmail suddenly
stopped accepting their username/password on their account. I guess Google is
trying to get everyone to use Chrome because what I had to do was in their
account settings was to enable "less secure applications" to use Thunderbird
or SeaMonkey. Maybe WOW has something similar?

Actually, WOW has increased their security.  Until recently, I only had to 
sign in on the POP retrieval and no security on sending.  The change is what 
has caused me the problems.  I am investigating the router which may be 
responding with the wrong port (25) and blocking my setting of 587.  More later.

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

On 02/16/16 12:54 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:28:24 -0500, Keith Thompson
 wrote:


On 02/16/16 10:39 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:48:55 -0500, Keith Thompson
 wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:


On 02/14/16 11:55 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


OK, and the username? This question has been asked at least three
times in this thread, and you haven't yet answered it. A
successful login requires both username and password; an error in
either causes a failure.


The user name is correct and the one that I had been using prior to
the change by Wow. It also works when going direct to the Wow
website and logging into my mail on their site.  I use a password
keeper which has not changed for WOW since I don't know when.  Using
that, it copies and pastes both the user name and the password into
the appropriate places. It works for the website, so would expect it
to work on SM


OK, if we've ruled out the username and the password, the only things
left are the server name, the port number, connection security, and
authentication method. We've seen conflicting information about the
server name -- smtp.mail.wowway.com or just mail.wowway.com. Have you
tried both?


yes, I had been using the smtp version until the report of just the mail
version. Both give the same negative results.  Repeatedly requesting the
password when trying to send an email. I can receive without a problem.


Already tried these settings?:

POP3 Incoming Server STARTTLS @ Port 110: mail.wowway.com
SMTP Outgoing Server STARTTLS @ Port 587: mail.wowway.com
Both used Authentication method of Normal Password


Yes, have tried both.  I will comment that I had removed all passwords from
the password manager and when signing in to retrieve my mail, entered my
standard password for the pop.  It accepted it and retrieved the mail just
fine.  It is apparent now, that there is something affecting the smtp
connection.  Normally, this would be the port, but I have tried the old 25,
the new 587 and another that I ran across in one of the blogs.  It was in the
400's, but I don't recall the exact value.  It didn't work either.


Just for kicks, try using Portable Thunderbird. It won't affect your
current Thunderbird. Download from here:
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable

Copy it to Desktop and run the file. It will create a self-contained
Thunderbird folder. Run it from there and enter all the account
credentials for the Wow account. If it *still* doesn't run then this
points to something wrong with either the Firewall or SMTP of the Wow
mail server and not your PC. If it's Firewall, go to your Firewall
settings and blow out anything related to Thunderbird.

Because if you can send, no reason you should not be able to receive.
The mail server is the same and the only difference is the port so it
would imply it's being blocked.

I did download the portable and installed it to one of my portable flash 
drives that I use for portable progams.  It behaved exactly as the desktop and 
laptop standard installs.  That is, retrieved mail, but could not send.  Popup 
window requested password and kept repeating requests.  In doing some 
additional digging, I'm beginning to think that the router (TP-Link) is 
responding with the 25 port which will be blocked by Wow.  I'm doing some 
further investigation on the settings that might give WOW the correct port 
response.  More later.

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Re: USAToday videos won't play? (SOLVED)

2016-02-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


I am on 2.42 already. I didn't fix anything in the menu but
everything under Tools -> Cookie Manager works for me. There also
weren't any fixes in the last months in this component. Do you see
any errors in the Error Console when you try to change cookie
settings using the menu?


No.

I'm on 2.39, but the behavior has been consistent for over a year: I go 
to a site, I want to change the cookie policy for that site, so I make a 
selection from the Tools | Cookie Manager menu, and nothing happens. No 
error message, no noise, no complaint of any kind; SM simply ignores the 
selection and continues as before with the previous selection.


The only way around it is to go into the chrome version of the Cookie 
Manager and change the policy there, or else tell SM to forget about 
this domain (which is an unnecessarily cumbersome and counterintuitive 
process, BTW). Having done that, I can go to the page in question and 
set a new policy from the menu (SM will honor a new setting only if 
there is no old setting).


FWIW, I did find a solution to the USAToday site: Tell SM to forget the 
cookie policy for usatoday.com, allowing it to revert to my default 
policy (first-party session cookies only), whereupon the site set some 
20 cookies and started playing the videos. I guess the other people who 
could play them had more lenient cookie policies, and the one who 
couldn't was also blocking cookies.


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
I am on 2.42 already. I didn't fix anything in the menu but everything under 
Tools 
-> Cookie Manager works for me. There also weren't any fixes in the last months 
in 
this component. Do you see any errors in the Error Console when you try to 
change 
cookie settings using the menu?

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:39:31 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

>>Does the fix also include the UI under Tools | Cookie Manager, where the 
>>user used to be able to change the policy for the current domain on the 
>>fly? At present, selecting anything except "Manage Stored Cookies" has 
>>no effect.

 Regards
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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:47:04 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If only the devs would finally fix the Cookie Manager, which has been
broken for a year or more. It's really frustrating to try to change the
pref for a domain on the fly (Tools | Cookie Manager | )
and have nothing happen. Where do I go to upvote that bug?



It's [been] fixed already for some time. Check Bug 1188348:
. All which is
needs is a (hopefully) final review and checkin of the source code.
This patch needed string changes so it is unlikely that it will
appear before Seamonkey 2.44. There is a how to in it so you can
change your omni.ja und put the fixes in yourself. It's compatible
with Seamonkey 2.39+

I was unable to test idn domains and some weird permissions might not
work. If you patch it and find something let me know and I will fix
it if I can.


Thanks.

Does the fix also include the UI under Tools | Cookie Manager, where the 
user used to be able to change the policy for the current domain on the 
fly? At present, selecting anything except "Manage Stored Cookies" has 
no effect.


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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Keith Thompson wrote:




Yes, have tried both.  I will comment that I had removed all passwords
from the password manager and when signing in to retrieve my mail,
entered my standard password for the pop.  It accepted it and retrieved
the mail just fine.  It is apparent now, that there is something
affecting the smtp connection.  Normally, this would be the port, but I
have tried the old 25, the new 587 and another that I ran across in one
of the blogs.  It was in the 400's, but I don't recall the exact value.
It didn't work either.


Well reference this might give a clue as to where to focus on to debug this.



How as another possibility just encountered with a friend where Gmail 
suddenly stopped accepting their username/password on their account. I 
guess Google is trying to get everyone to use Chrome because what I had 
to do was in their account settings was to enable "less secure 
applications" to use Thunderbird or SeaMonkey. Maybe WOW has something 
similar?


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:47:04 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

>>If only the devs would finally fix the Cookie Manager, which has been 
>>broken for a year or more. It's really frustrating to try to change the 
>>pref for a domain on the fly (Tools | Cookie Manager | ) 
>>and have nothing happen. Where do I go to upvote that bug?
>>

It's fixed already for some time. Check Bug 1188348: 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188348 . All which is needs is a 
(hopefully) final review and checkin of the source code. This patch needed 
string 
changes so it is unlikely that it will appear before Seamonkey 2.44. There is a 
how to in it so you can change your omni.ja und put the fixes in yourself. It's 
compatible with Seamonkey 2.39+ 

I was unable to test idn domains and some weird permissions might not work. If 
you 
patch it and find something let me know and I will fix it if I can.


 Regards
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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

On 02/16/16 10:39 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:48:55 -0500, Keith Thompson
 wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:


On 02/14/16 11:55 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


OK, and the username? This question has been asked at least three
times in this thread, and you haven't yet answered it. A
successful login requires both username and password; an error in
either causes a failure.


The user name is correct and the one that I had been using prior to
the change by Wow. It also works when going direct to the Wow
website and logging into my mail on their site.  I use a password
keeper which has not changed for WOW since I don't know when.  Using
that, it copies and pastes both the user name and the password into
the appropriate places. It works for the website, so would expect it
to work on SM


OK, if we've ruled out the username and the password, the only things
left are the server name, the port number, connection security, and
authentication method. We've seen conflicting information about the
server name -- smtp.mail.wowway.com or just mail.wowway.com. Have you
tried both?


yes, I had been using the smtp version until the report of just the mail
version. Both give the same negative results.  Repeatedly requesting the
password when trying to send an email. I can receive without a problem.


Already tried these settings?:

POP3 Incoming Server STARTTLS @ Port 110: mail.wowway.com
SMTP Outgoing Server STARTTLS @ Port 587: mail.wowway.com
Both used Authentication method of Normal Password

Yes, have tried both.  I will comment that I had removed all passwords from 
the password manager and when signing in to retrieve my mail, entered my 
standard password for the pop.  It accepted it and retrieved the mail just 
fine.  It is apparent now, that there is something affecting the smtp 
connection.  Normally, this would be the port, but I have tried the old 25, 
the new 587 and another that I ran across in one of the blogs.  It was in the 
400's, but I don't recall the exact value.  It didn't work either.

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send problem with e-mail

2016-02-16 Thread CenturyLink Customer
Have not been able to get centurytel to fix my not being able to sendhave 
to go to web mail to do so...I know others in the area with same proble and all 
are on seamonkeyreal PITA...any help here...I have checked and rechecked 
all setting...? Thank you for any help GUY 
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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Keith Thompson wrote:

I tried their settings on Windows Mail 2012 and had the same failure
that I have with SM, in that it keeps asking for the password when sending.


So that should be proof enough that your problem is not in SeaMonkey but 
either with your account credentials or their server.


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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Ray_Net

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 15/02/2016 23:25:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 15/02/2016 06:18:

Keith Thompson wrote:

On 02/14/16 10:30 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:

Yes, I can log into my account at WOW and read the mail there.  I 
can

receive that mail in SM but just cannot send out from my computer.
I can also respond to the newsgroup directly from the computer.  Its
just when I go to send an email, the request for password pops up 
and

will not accept, but just keeps repeating the request. When I check
the password manager, the correct password is there.


Two thoughts:

1) It's been suggested several times in this thread that you confirm
WOW's
username requirements for SMTP. Some ISPs want only the prefix (the
part
before the "@" sign), and some want the entire email address.

Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP)
This will be the last item on the list, after your email accounts.

Double-click the server name in the list on the right, or click it
once to
select it and then hit "Edit." At the bottom of the dialog, the last
entry is
"User Name:" -- is it exactly what WOW wants? Correct case, correct
punctuation, correct content (prefix only or prefix@domain)?

2) When you check the password manager, are you verifying the POP
password
(for receiving mail) instead of the SMTP password? There should be 
two

distinct entries; be sure you're looking at the right one. And the
password
might well be different.


I have the saved password app that connects directly into SM. The
password that I am
looking at is labeled smtp so I know that I am looking at the right
one.  The pop one is
under the WOWxxx.com listing.


Are you positive that your settings per the pdf are correct?
http://www.wowway.com/docs/wow/documents-support-internet/pop-imap-settings-north.pdf 







I have created a WOW smtp connection with the informations contained in
the pdf given.
Here is my test: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WOW-smtp-settings.jpg
Keith, try, or check/modify your SMTP parameters using this JPG 


Ray - Did those settings actually work for you, or did you just fill 
in the dialog to show where each item should go? There seems to be 
conflicting information as to the correct settings, and I not being on 
Wow! (nor even in the right country!) I can can't check.


Mark.


It's just that I filled informations in the zones .. just to show .
But the PDF given and the page frome the WOW website are different .. so 
I am perplex.

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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably
because the "Play"
button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to a script that
doesn't work.

Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?


If it's of any consolation, the vids don't work for me either.
I tried using a bare SM, still nothing.


Maybe a network issue? Seams to work just fine here. This is both in 
Windows and on Ubuntu OS..


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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 10:01:31 -0500, Keith Thompson
 wrote:


My ISP (WOW!) has just changed mailing securities and now I have to
use a
password on the smtp.  I cannot get the entry to take when trying to
send.  I
am using SM 2.39.  I have gone through a number of trials.  Their
requirement
is that I use no connection Security, Port 587, and Password.  I have
set the
smtp to these conditions, but the password will not enter.  I have
cleared the
password file of these and then tried the entry again.  It did not
take, but
the password was now in the password file. For some reason, it
appears that
the password file cannot communicate with the smtp.  What am I
missing here?
The mail sending was working fine until WOW changed their
requirements. Wow,
of course, wants me to change to Windows Mail and IE.  SM security is
exactly
the reason that I avoided MS Products.

Keith Thompson


See if updating to SM 2.41 from here
(https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/).


I know many ISPs killed certain negotiation if it was encrypted but it
may or may not be the same in your case. Still, it's worth a shot to
try and report back if it helped.


I updated to 2.41,but it did not help.  Same problem of not accepting
the password.

As an aside, I did install windows mail and had the same problem of not
accepting the password.  I did get a more complete error with it tho.

Unable to send or receive messages for the Wowway (kthomps7) account.
The host 'pop3.mail.wowway.com ' could not be found. Please verify that
you have entered the server name correctly.

Server: 'pop3.mail.wowway.com '
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0D
Protocol: POP3
Port: 110
Secure(SSL): No
Socket Error: 11004

The server addresses were copy and pasted from WOW setup page.


It looks like you have an extra space at the end of the server address,
which may be preventing a name lookup from working?

Mark.

Checked that and space is not there in the actual.  Apparently, the 
error reporting app inserted that extra space.

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:


On 02/14/16 11:55 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


OK, and the username? This question has been asked at least three
times in this thread, and you haven't yet answered it. A
successful login requires both username and password; an error in
either causes a failure.


The user name is correct and the one that I had been using prior to
the change by Wow. It also works when going direct to the Wow
website and logging into my mail on their site.  I use a password
keeper which has not changed for WOW since I don't know when.  Using
that, it copies and pastes both the user name and the password into
the appropriate places. It works for the website, so would expect it
to work on SM


OK, if we've ruled out the username and the password, the only things
left are the server name, the port number, connection security, and
authentication method. We've seen conflicting information about the
server name -- smtp.mail.wowway.com or just mail.wowway.com. Have you
tried both?

yes, I had been using the smtp version until the report of just the mail 
version. Both give the same negative results.  Repeatedly requesting the 
password when trying to send an email. I can receive without a problem.

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Keith Thompson

Daniel wrote:

On 16/02/2016 3:49 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 10:01:31 -0500, Keith Thompson
 wrote:


My ISP (WOW!) has just changed mailing securities and now I have to
use a
password on the smtp.  I cannot get the entry to take when trying to
send.  I
am using SM 2.39.  I have gone through a number of trials.  Their
requirement
is that I use no connection Security, Port 587, and Password.  I have
set the
smtp to these conditions, but the password will not enter.  I have
cleared the
password file of these and then tried the entry again.  It did not
take, but
the password was now in the password file. For some reason, it
appears that
the password file cannot communicate with the smtp.  What am I
missing here?
The mail sending was working fine until WOW changed their
requirements. Wow,
of course, wants me to change to Windows Mail and IE.  SM security is
exactly
the reason that I avoided MS Products.

Keith Thompson


See if updating to SM 2.41 from here
(https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/).


I know many ISPs killed certain negotiation if it was encrypted but it
may or may not be the same in your case. Still, it's worth a shot to
try and report back if it helped.


I updated to 2.41,but it did not help.  Same problem of not accepting
the password.

As an aside, I did install windows mail and had the same problem of not
accepting the password.  I did get a more complete error with it tho.

Unable to send or receive messages for the Wowway (kthomps7) account.
The host 'pop3.mail.wowway.com ' could not be found. Please verify that
you have entered the server name correctly.

Server: 'pop3.mail.wowway.com '
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0D
Protocol: POP3
Port: 110
Secure(SSL): No
Socket Error: 11004

The server addresses were copy and pasted from WOW setup page.


Keith, if the other two suggestions don't help, upthread you typed "Wow,
of course, wants me to change to Windows Mail and IE."

Well, now that you *have* installed Windows Mail, ..

Yes, I installed windows mail 2012 and got exactly the same result, when 
trying to send, password window pops up and repeatedly requests password 
but not accepting.

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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel

On 16/02/2016 12:10 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably
because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to
a script that doesn't work.

Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?


On my Win7 SM, I clicked on two of the videos and both worked.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: smtp not taking password

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel

On 16/02/2016 3:49 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 10:01:31 -0500, Keith Thompson
 wrote:


My ISP (WOW!) has just changed mailing securities and now I have to
use a
password on the smtp.  I cannot get the entry to take when trying to
send.  I
am using SM 2.39.  I have gone through a number of trials.  Their
requirement
is that I use no connection Security, Port 587, and Password.  I have
set the
smtp to these conditions, but the password will not enter.  I have
cleared the
password file of these and then tried the entry again.  It did not
take, but
the password was now in the password file. For some reason, it
appears that
the password file cannot communicate with the smtp.  What am I
missing here?
The mail sending was working fine until WOW changed their
requirements. Wow,
of course, wants me to change to Windows Mail and IE.  SM security is
exactly
the reason that I avoided MS Products.

Keith Thompson


See if updating to SM 2.41 from here
(https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/).

I know many ISPs killed certain negotiation if it was encrypted but it
may or may not be the same in your case. Still, it's worth a shot to
try and report back if it helped.


I updated to 2.41,but it did not help.  Same problem of not accepting
the password.

As an aside, I did install windows mail and had the same problem of not
accepting the password.  I did get a more complete error with it tho.

Unable to send or receive messages for the Wowway (kthomps7) account.
The host 'pop3.mail.wowway.com ' could not be found. Please verify that
you have entered the server name correctly.

Server: 'pop3.mail.wowway.com '
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0D
Protocol: POP3
Port: 110
Secure(SSL): No
Socket Error: 11004

The server addresses were copy and pasted from WOW setup page.

Keith, if the other two suggestions don't help, upthread you typed "Wow, 
of course, wants me to change to Windows Mail and IE."


Well, now that you *have* installed Windows Mail, ..

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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