Re: Need some help to solve a problem

[Zeb Carter]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/28/2016 02:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Can you not use the View menu to toggle the toolbars?  It works for me.
Mind you, I use Mac OS rather than Windows, but I have heard the
pressing Alt will show the menu bar and allow the use of the menus.


Remember, he has no File/Edit/View/... toolbar, so as another poster
has pointed out, he has to access it by
Alt-V (for "View"), then W (for "Show/Hide"),
then E (for "Menu Bar")
or O (for "Mail Toolbar")
or S (for "Status Bar").
But once he does, it'd be interesting to know what happens.

Sorry I neglected to notice/mention that.



It restored proper functionality as I discovered in my testing. Hope Zeb
saw that before creating a new profile.😱
I saw that but have not been able to get back to my friend's house. This 
weekend! Thanks guys!


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Re: Need some help to solve a problem

[WaltS48]

On 04/28/2016 02:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Can you not use the View menu to toggle the toolbars?  It works for me.
Mind you, I use Mac OS rather than Windows, but I have heard the
pressing Alt will show the menu bar and allow the use of the menus.


Remember, he has no File/Edit/View/... toolbar, so as another poster 
has pointed out, he has to access it by

Alt-V (for "View"), then W (for "Show/Hide"),
then E (for "Menu Bar")
or O (for "Mail Toolbar")
or S (for "Status Bar").
But once he does, it'd be interesting to know what happens.

Sorry I neglected to notice/mention that.



It restored proper functionality as I discovered in my testing. Hope Zeb 
saw that before creating a new profile.😱

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Re: Need some help to solve a problem

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:


Can you not use the View menu to toggle the toolbars?  It works for me.
Mind you, I use Mac OS rather than Windows, but I have heard the
pressing Alt will show the menu bar and allow the use of the menus.


Remember, he has no File/Edit/View/... toolbar, so as another poster has 
pointed out, he has to access it by

Alt-V (for "View"), then W (for "Show/Hide"),
then E (for "Menu Bar")
or O (for "Mail Toolbar")
or S (for "Status Bar").
But once he does, it'd be interesting to know what happens.

Sorry I neglected to notice/mention that.

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Re: Need some help to solve a problem

[EE]

Zeb Carter wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/26/2016 07:13 AM, Zeb Carter wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Zeb Carter wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Zeb Carter wrote:


I provide computer support for an older couple and they use
SeaMonkey.
The husband has lost a couple of tool bars in the compose window.

The tool bar with File/Edit/View/Options/Tools/Window/Help and the
one
with Send/Address/Attach/Spell/Security/Save are missing.

The top of his compose window Has the From: , To:, and
Subject and the body. That is it!

  There doesn't appear to be any option to enable Menu Bar or Mail
toolbar when right clicking on the top of the Window.

How do I get the missing tool bars back?


Two things to look for:

1) In a composition window, pull down the View menu to Show/Hide
and see
if the corresponding boxes are checked:
[✓] Menu Bar
[✓] Mail Toolbar
[✓] Status Bar
If they aren't, check the boxes to enable them.

2) If that doesn't solve it, look along the left edge of the screen
next
to the "From:" line and you'll see a speckled vertical bar with a
downward pointing triangle. Follow it with your eye to the bottom,
just
under "Subject:" and above the message body, and you'll see one or
more
horizontal versions of the same thing. Click each of them to reveal
the
corresponding toolbar.


I know about the grippies on the left side of the boxes. The only
grippies visible correspond to the areas I mentioned. I've even tried
resizing the screen but that doesn't do anything either.

I'm thinking there might be something in chrome or userprefs.js
perhaps
that got screwed up.


So you're saying step 1) above was not helpful either?


That's one of the things I checked for right off the bat.

Even restarting in safe mode didn't help. And he has no add ons except
pref bar.



That's an interesting one!

Looks like somebody removed the check marks for the Menu Bar and Mail
Toolbar. Like I just did to try and reproduce the problem.

Now that I have reproduced the problem, I can't find a spot anywhere in
the composition window to bring those back. There are no grippies, right
clicking in the Header bar doesn't bring up the customize window.

Looks like we both have broken SeaMonkey's now.

A new profile should fix it.

This post originally typed in SeaMonkey, but with no Send button, well
you know I couldn't send it. Probably a key command for that.


I appreciate the help and knowing that the problem was duplicated, now I
can see if a new profile will fix it. I will report back.

Can you not use the View menu to toggle the toolbars?  It works for me. 
 Mind you, I use Mac OS rather than Windows, but I have heard the 
pressing Alt will show the menu bar and allow the use of the menus.


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Re: Problems/Questions while creating wierd/strange/aberant/??? profile

[EE]

Richard Owlett wrote:

Part of my problem is that Netscape/Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey has always
worked so well I've had no cause to search for answers for odd questions.

*KUDOS* to generations of developers

Problems/questions discovered while going through mechanics of creating
a very customized profile and moving existing data to it.

1. Data Manager lists sites that should never have any permanent
reference on my machine.
The only page I could find was http://kb.mozillazine.org/Data_Manager
It has tabs for Cookies, Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, and
Storage
   Cookies: (which I delete daily) and Passwords seem to be handled
properly
   Permissions and Preferences: - what is function?
   I can think of no instance where I would like a site to deviate
from my
   personal defaults for more than a day. I routinely surf with
cookies and
   JavaScript disabled.
   Storage: - What is this?
2. In about:config is there any way to discover *ALL* non-default items?
3. "cert8.db - Security certificate settings " - what is in there? In a
never used
profile its size is 64 kb. In my active profile it is 704 kb.

TIA




As far as sites that you never heard of go, those are most likely third 
party servers that supply content that goes with web pages that you have 
requested.  There are some sites that serve images, some that serve 
javascripts, and some that serve stylesheets.  There may be others that 
serve special items like videos or audio.


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Re: Problems/Questions while creating wierd/strange/aberant/??? profile

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:


Part of my problem is that Netscape/Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey has always
worked so well I've had no cause to search for answers for odd questions.

*KUDOS* to generations of developers

Problems/questions discovered while going through mechanics of creating
a very customized profile and moving existing data to it.

1. Data Manager lists sites that should never have any permanent
reference on my machine.
The only page I could find was
 It has tabs for Cookies,
Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, and Storage Cookies: (which I
delete daily) and Passwords seem to be handled properly Permissions
and Preferences: - what is function? I can think of no instance where
I would like a site to deviate from my personal defaults for more
than a day. I routinely surf with cookies and JavaScript disabled.
Storage: - What is this?


The Data Manager has serious problems with user friendliness. Be that as 
it may, it does kinda sorta work in some respects.


If you don't want sites to deviate from your defaults, don't list them. 
Then you'll have no exceptions and none will deviate. But if you want to 
visit a site that requires cookies and your default is no cookies, it 
won't work. So then you'll have to make an exception, and when you're 
done, remove the exception. Kind of a PITA, eh?


Partial workarounds:

1) Set SeaMonkey to accept only session cookies, which means that each 
time you shut SM down the cookies are cleared.


2) Set SeaMonkey to Clear Private Data on shutdown (you can define what 
it should clear and what it should retain). Once you establish the 
definition of data to be cleared, you can do it (CPD) manually as 
desired without shutting down: Tools | Clear Private Data... or 
CTRL-SHIFT-DEL.


Definition here: Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data.


2. In about:config is there any way to discover *ALL* non-default items?


If you click the column heading "Status," the list will be sorted on 
that parameter. "Default" appears first (in alphabetical order), "User 
set" appears at the end. Click it again to reverse the order.


I don't know how to discover nonstandard (user-created) keys, but all of 
those should be "user set" since there can be no default for a key that 
doesn't exist out of the box.



3. "cert8.db - Security certificate settings " - what is in there? In
a never used profile its size is 64 kb. In my active profile it is
704 kb.


Dunno, someone else will have to answer this.

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Problems/Questions while creating wierd/strange/aberant/??? profile

[Richard Owlett]

Part of my problem is that Netscape/Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey has 
always worked so well I've had no cause to search for answers for 
odd questions.


*KUDOS* to generations of developers

Problems/questions discovered while going through mechanics of 
creating a very customized profile and moving existing data to it.


1. Data Manager lists sites that should never have any permanent 
reference on my machine.
   The only page I could find was 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Data_Manager
   It has tabs for Cookies, Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, 
and Storage
  Cookies: (which I delete daily) and Passwords seem to be 
handled properly

  Permissions and Preferences: - what is function?
  I can think of no instance where I would like a site to 
deviate from my
  personal defaults for more than a day. I routinely surf 
with cookies and

  JavaScript disabled.
  Storage: - What is this?
2. In about:config is there any way to discover *ALL* non-default 
items?
3. "cert8.db - Security certificate settings " - what is in 
there? In a never used

   profile its size is 64 kb. In my active profile it is 704 kb.

TIA




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